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== Description ==
 
== Description ==
 
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The [[F-84F]] was exported to several countries, one of which was Italy. The 102nd Group was the first Italian air group to equip the F-84F and replaced the [[F-84G-21-RE (Italy)|F-84G]] in 1956, then later the 101st Group, and finally the 103rd Group. The F-84F was not much liked by the pilots at the time because it had poor flying qualities, however between 1958 and 1959, the F-84F was used by the Diavoli Rossi aerobatic patrol. In addition to the F-84F, Italy also used the reconnaissance variant the RF-84F. Eventually, the F-84F would be replaced by the [[G.91 (Family)|G.91]] and in other groups by the [[F-104G (Italy)|F-104G]], and their last use would be by the 5th Air Brigade to escort Pope Paolo VI who went to Israel for the first time in January 1964.
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Italian jet fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Hot Tracks"]].
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Introduced in [[Update "Hot Tracks"]], the ▄F-84F is an assaulter/fighter-bomber, with swept wings that allow it to reach high speeds faster but reduce the aircraft's manoeuvrability due to the loss of speed in manoeuvres. It is more of an energy fight and boom and zoom aircraft, but can also be used as CAS in ground battles or as a bomber in air battles, thanks to its good payloads of a variety of bombs and rockets.
  
 
== General info ==
 
== General info ==
 
=== Flight performance ===
 
=== Flight performance ===
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{{Specs-Avia-Flight}}
 
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''Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.''
 
  
 
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! colspan="2" | Max speed<br>(km/h at 0 m - sea level)
 
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(metres)
 
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(metres)
 
! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds)
 
! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds)
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| 1,090 || 1,067 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 29.7 || 30.9 || 30.7 || 28.8 || rowspan="2" | 2,000
 
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| 1,111 || 1,102 || 26.5 || 28.0 || 45.9 || 38.0
 
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! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear !! Drogue chute
 
! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear !! Drogue chute
 
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! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
 
! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
 
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| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 533 || 515 || 417 || ~11 || ~3
 
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! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
 
! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
 
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==== Engine performance ====
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| colspan="2" | Wright J65-W-7 || 1
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| colspan="2" | 6,667 kg || colspan="2" | 279 kg/m<sup>2</sup>
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! colspan="3" | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) || rowspan="2" | Max Takeoff<br>Weight
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| 1,260 kg || colspan="2" | Axial-flow turbojet
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| 7,177 kg || 7,838 kg || 8,368 kg || 8,935 kg
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! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB/SB)|The maximum thrust produced by each engine, while mounted in the aircraft. NOTE: Thrust varies significantly depending on speed & altitude.}}
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! colspan="4" | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (100%)
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| 0.48 || 0.44 || 0.41 || 0.39
 
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=== Survivability and armour ===
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
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The F-84F is quite a sturdy aircraft, but do not expect to take a lot of bullets, because most opponents have cannons which will destroy any aircraft in one burst. It usually is able to take a beating when facing weaker-armed opponents, in which case you may survive long enough to win a engagement.
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=== Modifications and economy ===
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== Armaments ==
 
== Armaments ==
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=== Offensive armament ===
 
=== Offensive armament ===
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{{main|M3 Browning (12.7 mm)}}
 
{{main|M3 Browning (12.7 mm)}}
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=== Suspended armament ===
 
=== Suspended armament ===
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The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
 
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* 24 x HVAR rockets
 
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* 42 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets
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* 4 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs (4,000 lb total)
 
* 4 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs (4,000 lb total)
 
* 2 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs (4,000 lb total)
 
* 2 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs (4,000 lb total)
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* 4 x BLU-1 incendiary bombs
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{{Navigation-End}}
  
 
== Usage in battles ==
 
== Usage in battles ==
 
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The F-84F has the somewhat common base armament of 6 x M3 Browning machine guns. This combined with its large ammo capacity makes for an aircraft well-suited to dogfighting. Achieving air superiority should be the primary task for all F-84F pilots, the F-84F also excels in a support role, where most of enemies can't simply run away from it. In air battles, it has access to an air spawn, which means that you are able to engage enemies more quickly, giving the F-84F a very aggressive type of playstyle. It is recommended to bring minimal fuel to boost its acceleration and climb rate, do note that bringing a lot of payload will seriously affect your overall mobility, the more payload the heavier, and slower, the aircraft is. If you are inclined to bring a lot of payload, make sure you dispose of it before entering a dogfight, as more often than not you will be knocked out as your flight characteristics won't be on par with most enemies you'll face. When the first enemies engage with allies, go over them and find targets with low energy states and destroy them. Do not chase lone planes, as although the enemy might look like an easy 1-vs-1 victory, the F-84F's low top speed makes it very hard to catch somebody. Try not to engage in a prolonged dogfight, because the F-84F has rather poor energy retention and when caught slow even good acceleration won't save the plane. In a prolonged turn fight, one may find themselves losing even against jets like the MiG-15. Another thing is that you have an adequate amount of munitions, so in theory you could stay in combat for a long time if you time your shots and selectively engage enemies you have the edge over. Destroying bombers and attackers is also a feasible option thanks to the powerful armament.
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The aircraft can also be employed in ground strike or destruction of enemy bases with its more than sufficient maximum bomb load of 4 x 1,000 lb Mk.83 bombs and somewhat less impressive selection of 24 HVAR rockets.
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The F-84F is equipped with an AN/APG-30 rangefinding radar, located in the nose of the aircraft.
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It will automatically detect other planes within the scanning area and display the range to the closest target. It is linked with a gyro gunsight and can help with aiming at close range.
  
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=== Pros and cons ===
 
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== History ==
 
== History ==
 
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In the late 1940’s, the manufacturer ‘Republic’ sought to improve the performance of the F-84 in order to bring it closer in line with the F-86 Sabre. As a result, it developed a new variant of the Thunderjet, designated F-84F. The new aircraft featured, among other changes, a new swept wing and a more powerful engine than its predecessor. Although Republic initially intended the new aircraft to be an extensive modernization of the base F-84, possessing a high degree of part compatibility with preceding variants, in the end, only less than 20% of the parts were interchangeable, resulting in the F-84F Thunderstreak becoming its own independent design.
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In the late 1940's, the manufacturer 'Republic' sought to improve the performance of the F-84 in order to bring it closer in line with the F-86 Sabre. As a result, it developed a new variant of the Thunderjet, designated F-84F. The new aircraft featured, among other changes, a new swept wing and a more powerful engine than its predecessor. Although Republic initially intended the new aircraft to be an extensive modernization of the base F-84, possessing a high degree of part compatibility with preceding variants, in the end, only less than 20% of the parts were interchangeable, resulting in the F-84F Thunderstreak becoming its own independent design.
  
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Following its maiden flight in the early 1950’s, the F-84F was ordered into production. However, the USAF focus on strategic bombers at the time resulted in some critical component manufacturing processes being prioritized for bomber production, ultimately leading to a staggered production start of the new F-84F. 
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Following its maiden flight in the early 1950's, the F-84F was ordered into production. However, the USAF focus on strategic bombers at the time resulted in some critical component manufacturing processes being prioritized for bomber production, ultimately leading to a staggered production start of the new F-84F.
  
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The Thunderstreak officially entered service with the USAF in 1954, but was quickly phased out of active service due to engine issues before being reactivated in the early 1960’s as tensions between the two superpowers began to rise again. Ultimately, the F-84F kept flying under American colors well into the early 1970’s before finally being retired as newer aircraft replaced the Thunderstreak in active service.
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The Thunderstreak officially entered service with the USAF in 1954, but was quickly phased out of active service due to engine issues before being reactivated in the early 1960's as tensions between the two superpowers began to rise again. Ultimately, the F-84F kept flying under American colors well into the early 1970's before finally being retired as newer aircraft replaced the Thunderstreak in active service.
  
 
The F-84F was also widely exported to NATO members. Chiefly among them were Germany, France, Italy, Belgium, Greece, China, the Netherlands as well as others. In total, well over 2,100 F-84F Thunderstreaks were built, with the Greek Air Force being the last to retire their F-84Fs in 1991.
 
The F-84F was also widely exported to NATO members. Chiefly among them were Germany, France, Italy, Belgium, Greece, China, the Netherlands as well as others. In total, well over 2,100 F-84F Thunderstreaks were built, with the Greek Air Force being the last to retire their F-84Fs in 1991.
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== Media ==
 
== Media ==
 
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== See also ==
 
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Latest revision as of 11:31, 9 July 2023

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This page is about the Italian strike aircraft F-84F (Italy). For other versions, see F-84 (Family).
▄F-84F
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Description

The F-84F was exported to several countries, one of which was Italy. The 102nd Group was the first Italian air group to equip the F-84F and replaced the F-84G in 1956, then later the 101st Group, and finally the 103rd Group. The F-84F was not much liked by the pilots at the time because it had poor flying qualities, however between 1958 and 1959, the F-84F was used by the Diavoli Rossi aerobatic patrol. In addition to the F-84F, Italy also used the reconnaissance variant the RF-84F. Eventually, the F-84F would be replaced by the G.91 and in other groups by the F-104G, and their last use would be by the 5th Air Brigade to escort Pope Paolo VI who went to Israel for the first time in January 1964.

Introduced in Update "Hot Tracks", the ▄F-84F is an assaulter/fighter-bomber, with swept wings that allow it to reach high speeds faster but reduce the aircraft's manoeuvrability due to the loss of speed in manoeuvres. It is more of an energy fight and boom and zoom aircraft, but can also be used as CAS in ground battles or as a bomber in air battles, thanks to its good payloads of a variety of bombs and rockets.

General info

Flight performance

Air brakes
Allows you to dramatically reduce the flight speed by releasing special flaps
Drogue parachute
Reduces braking distance when landing on any runway
Max speed
at 0 m1 102 km/h
Turn time28 s
Max altitude12 500 m
EngineWright J65-W-7
TypeJet
Cooling systemAir
Take-off weight9 t
Characteristics Max speed
(km/h at 0 m - sea level) 		Max altitude
(metres) 		Turn time
(seconds) 		Rate of climb
(metres/second) 		Take-off run
(metres)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
Stock 1,090 1,067 12500 29.7 30.9 30.7 28.8 2,000
Upgraded 1,111 1,102 26.5 28.0 45.9 38.0

Details

Features
Combat flaps Take-off flaps Landing flaps Air brakes Arrestor gear Drogue chute
✓ ✓ ✓ ✓ X ✓
Limits
Wings (km/h) Gear (km/h) Flaps (km/h) Max Static G
Combat Take-off Landing + -
1187 417 533 515 417 ~11 ~3
Optimal velocities (km/h)
Ailerons Rudder Elevators Radiator
< 630 < 600 < 650 N/A

Engine performance

Engine Aircraft mass
Engine name Number Basic mass Wing loading (full fuel)
Wright J65-W-7 1 6,667 kg 279 kg/m2
Engine characteristics Mass with fuel (no weapons load) Max Takeoff
Weight
Weight (each) Type 8m fuel 20m fuel 29m fuel
1,260 kg Axial-flow turbojet 7,177 kg 7,838 kg 8,368 kg 8,935 kg
Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB/SB) Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (100%)
Condition 100% WEP 8m fuel 20m fuel 29m fuel MTOW
Stationary 3,470 kgf N/A 0.48 0.44 0.41 0.39
Optimal 3,470 kgf
(0 km/h) 		N/A 0.48 0.44 0.41 0.39

Survivability and armour

Crew1 person
Speed of destruction
Structural1 187 km/h
Gear417 km/h

The F-84F is quite a sturdy aircraft, but do not expect to take a lot of bullets, because most opponents have cannons which will destroy any aircraft in one burst. It usually is able to take a beating when facing weaker-armed opponents, in which case you may survive long enough to win a engagement.

Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference
AB2 902 → 3 920 Sl icon.png
RB8 501 → 11 484 Sl icon.png
SB10 207 → 13 789 Sl icon.png
Total cost of modifications120 400 Rp icon.png
194 000 Sl icon.png
Talisman cost2 300 Ge icon.png
Crew training110 000 Sl icon.png
Experts380 000 Sl icon.png
Aces2 000 Ge icon.png
Research Aces830 000 Rp icon.png
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
110 / 310 / 600 % Sl icon.png
208 / 208 / 208 % Rp icon.png
Modifications
Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
Mods aerodinamic fuse.png
Fuselage repair
Research:
4 800 Rp icon.png
Cost:
7 600 Sl icon.png
250 Ge icon.png
Mods jet compressor.png
Compressor
Research:
4 800 Rp icon.png
Cost:
7 600 Sl icon.png
250 Ge icon.png
Mods booster.png
New boosters
Research:
6 800 Rp icon.png
Cost:
11 000 Sl icon.png
350 Ge icon.png
Mods aerodinamic wing.png
Wings repair
Research:
7 500 Rp icon.png
Cost:
12 000 Sl icon.png
390 Ge icon.png
Mods jet engine.png
Engine
Research:
7 500 Rp icon.png
Cost:
12 000 Sl icon.png
390 Ge icon.png
Mods g suit.png
G-suit
Research:
9 800 Rp icon.png
Cost:
16 000 Sl icon.png
510 Ge icon.png
Mods armor frame.png
Airframe
Research:
6 800 Rp icon.png
Cost:
11 000 Sl icon.png
350 Ge icon.png
Mods armor cover.png
Cover
Research:
9 800 Rp icon.png
Cost:
16 000 Sl icon.png
510 Ge icon.png
Mods ammo.png
bmg50_belt_pack
Research:
4 800 Rp icon.png
Cost:
7 600 Sl icon.png
250 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 1.png
Mods napalm fire bomb.png
BLU-1
Research:
4 800 Rp icon.png
Cost:
7 600 Sl icon.png
250 Ge icon.png
Mods pilon bomb.png
Mk81
Research:
4 800 Rp icon.png
Cost:
7 600 Sl icon.png
250 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods pilon rocket.png
FRC mk.2
Research:
6 800 Rp icon.png
Cost:
11 000 Sl icon.png
350 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 1.png
Mods pilon bomb.png
Mk82
Research:
6 800 Rp icon.png
Cost:
11 000 Sl icon.png
350 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods weapon.png
bmg50_new_gun
Research:
7 500 Rp icon.png
Cost:
12 000 Sl icon.png
390 Ge icon.png
Mods pilon bomb.png
Mk83
Research:
7 500 Rp icon.png
Cost:
12 000 Sl icon.png
390 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods pilon block rocket.png
Aero X-6A
Research:
9 800 Rp icon.png
Cost:
16 000 Sl icon.png
510 Ge icon.png
Mods pilon bomb.png
Mk84
Research:
9 800 Rp icon.png
Cost:
16 000 Sl icon.png
510 Ge icon.png

Armaments

Ballistic Computer
CCIP (Guns) CCIP (Rockets) CCIP (Bombs) CCRP (Bombs)
Icon GreenCheckmark.png Icon RedXCross.png Icon RedXCross.png Icon GreenCheckmark.png

Offensive armament

Main article: M3 Browning (12.7 mm)

The F-84F (Italy) is armed with:

  • 4 x 12.7 mm M3 Browning machine guns, nose-mounted (300 rpg = 1,200 total)
  • 2 x 12.7 mm M3 Browning machine guns, wing-mounted (300 rpg = 600 total)

Suspended armament

The F-84F (Italy) can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
Hardpoints F-84F.png
250 lb LDGP Mk 81 bombs 1 1 1 1
500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs 1 1 1 1
1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs 1 1 1 1
2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs 1 1 1 1
BLU-1 incendiary bombs 1 1 1 1
FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets 7 7 7 7 7 7
HVAR rockets 2 2 2 6 6 2 2 2
Maximum permissible loadout weight: 2,700 kg
Maximum permissible wing load: 1,350 kg
Maximum permissible weight imbalance: 700 kg
Default weapon presets
  • Without load
  • 24 x HVAR rockets
  • 42 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets
  • 4 x 250 lb LDGP Mk 81 bombs (1,000 lb total)
  • 4 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs (2,000 lb total)
  • 4 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs (4,000 lb total)
  • 2 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs (4,000 lb total)
  • 4 x BLU-1 incendiary bombs

Usage in battles

The F-84F has the somewhat common base armament of 6 x M3 Browning machine guns. This combined with its large ammo capacity makes for an aircraft well-suited to dogfighting. Achieving air superiority should be the primary task for all F-84F pilots, the F-84F also excels in a support role, where most of enemies can't simply run away from it. In air battles, it has access to an air spawn, which means that you are able to engage enemies more quickly, giving the F-84F a very aggressive type of playstyle. It is recommended to bring minimal fuel to boost its acceleration and climb rate, do note that bringing a lot of payload will seriously affect your overall mobility, the more payload the heavier, and slower, the aircraft is. If you are inclined to bring a lot of payload, make sure you dispose of it before entering a dogfight, as more often than not you will be knocked out as your flight characteristics won't be on par with most enemies you'll face. When the first enemies engage with allies, go over them and find targets with low energy states and destroy them. Do not chase lone planes, as although the enemy might look like an easy 1-vs-1 victory, the F-84F's low top speed makes it very hard to catch somebody. Try not to engage in a prolonged dogfight, because the F-84F has rather poor energy retention and when caught slow even good acceleration won't save the plane. In a prolonged turn fight, one may find themselves losing even against jets like the MiG-15. Another thing is that you have an adequate amount of munitions, so in theory you could stay in combat for a long time if you time your shots and selectively engage enemies you have the edge over. Destroying bombers and attackers is also a feasible option thanks to the powerful armament.

The aircraft can also be employed in ground strike or destruction of enemy bases with its more than sufficient maximum bomb load of 4 x 1,000 lb Mk.83 bombs and somewhat less impressive selection of 24 HVAR rockets.

Radars

The F-84F is equipped with an AN/APG-30 rangefinding radar, located in the nose of the aircraft. It will automatically detect other planes within the scanning area and display the range to the closest target. It is linked with a gyro gunsight and can help with aiming at close range.

AN/APG-30 - Rangefinding radar
Maximum
Tracking
Range 		Minimum
Tracking
Range 		Azimuth Tracking
Angle 		Elevation Tracking
Angle
2,750 m 300 m ±9° ±9°

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • High top speed
  • Large payload capacity
  • Somewhat survivable
  • Can be used for many roles

Cons:

  • Average overall flight characteristics
  • No air-to-air missiles
  • No countermeasures

History

Devblog

In the late 1940's, the manufacturer 'Republic' sought to improve the performance of the F-84 in order to bring it closer in line with the F-86 Sabre. As a result, it developed a new variant of the Thunderjet, designated F-84F. The new aircraft featured, among other changes, a new swept wing and a more powerful engine than its predecessor. Although Republic initially intended the new aircraft to be an extensive modernization of the base F-84, possessing a high degree of part compatibility with preceding variants, in the end, only less than 20% of the parts were interchangeable, resulting in the F-84F Thunderstreak becoming its own independent design.

Following its maiden flight in the early 1950's, the F-84F was ordered into production. However, the USAF focus on strategic bombers at the time resulted in some critical component manufacturing processes being prioritized for bomber production, ultimately leading to a staggered production start of the new F-84F.

The Thunderstreak officially entered service with the USAF in 1954, but was quickly phased out of active service due to engine issues before being reactivated in the early 1960's as tensions between the two superpowers began to rise again. Ultimately, the F-84F kept flying under American colors well into the early 1970's before finally being retired as newer aircraft replaced the Thunderstreak in active service.

The F-84F was also widely exported to NATO members. Chiefly among them were Germany, France, Italy, Belgium, Greece, China, the Netherlands as well as others. In total, well over 2,100 F-84F Thunderstreaks were built, with the Greek Air Force being the last to retire their F-84Fs in 1991.

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Related development

External links


Republic Aviation Corporation
Fighters  P-43A-1
  P-47D-22-RE · P-47D-25 · P-47D-28 · P-47M-1-RE · ⋠P-47M-1-RE · P-47N-15
Jet Aircraft  F-84B-26 · F-84F · F-84G-21-RE
  F-105D
Export  J9 Early*
  ␗P-43A-1
  ▄Thunderbolt Mk.1 · ▄P-47D-22-RE · ␗P-47D-23-RA · ▂P-47D-27 · ␗P-47D-30 · ▄P-47D-30 · ␗F-47N-25-RE
  ◄F-84F · ▄F-84F (Italy) · ▄F-84F (France) · F-84F IAF · F-84F
  ␗F-84G-21-RE · ▄F-84G-21-RE · ▄F-84G-26-RE · ␗F-84G-31-RE
Captured  ▀P-47D-16-RE · ▀P-47D
  *The company was named "Seversky Aircraft Company" before being renamed in 1939

Italy jet aircraft
Aerfer  Sagittario 2 · Ariete
Fiat  G.91 pre-serie · G.91 R/1 · G.91 R/4 (Portugal) · G.91 Y · G.91 YS
AMX International  AMX · AMX A-1A (Brazil)
Panavia  Tornado ADV · ▄Tornado IDS · ▄Tornado IDS (1995)
  Foreign:
Vampire  Vampire FB 52A
F-84  ▄F-84F · ▄F-84G-21-RE
F-86  CL-13 Mk.4 · ▄F-86K
F-104  ▄F-104G · F-104S · ▄F-104S TAF (Turkey) · F-104S.ASA
F-16  ▄F-16A ADF
AV-8  ▄AV-8B Plus
Hungary 
Mikoyan-Gurevich  ◔MiG-15bis · ◔MiG-17PF · ◔MiG-21MF · ◔MiG-21bis-SAU · ◔MiG-23MF · ◔MiG-29
Ilyushin  ◔IL-28
Sukhoi  ◔Su-22M3
Saab  ◔JAS39EBS HU C

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