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Despite being a light tank, the armour of the BTR-80 is not to be underestimated. The frontal armour is capable of saving you from coaxial and roof-mounted MG's of tanks such as rank IV and V [[Leopard (Family)|Leopards]], and opponents such as early American MBT's (e.g. [[MBT-70]]). A notably much more dangerous opponent would be American and German 20 mm and above autocannons, but even against these the BTR-80 can provide some protection. Notable armoured spots include turret cheeks, a portion of the upper hull right above the driver/commander optics, and a portion of the lower hull right below the frontal structural steel. So although it is best to avoid being shot at, the BTR-80's armour can provide effective protection against most coaxial and roof mounted MG's and some autocannons. Though it is worth noting that autocannons can penetrate the BTR-80 nearly anywhere if shot from the side.
  
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<!-- The types of armour present on the vehicle and their general locations -->
 
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! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
 
! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
 
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| Hull || ___ mm || ___ mm ''Top'' <br> ___ mm ''Bottom'' || ___ mm || ___ - ___ mm
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| Hull || 10 mm (57°) ''Upper plate'' 
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12mm (55°) ''Lower plate'' 
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| 8 mm (36°)''Top'' <br>8 mm ''Bottom'' || 6 mm || 8 mm - 6 mm
 
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| Turret || ___ - ___ mm ''Turret front'' <br> ___ mm ''Gun mantlet'' || ___ - ___ mm || ___ - ___ mm || ___ - ___ mm
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| Gun mount || 23 mm - 19mm ''Base front'' (35°) || 23 mm || 12 mm - 13 mm || 23 mm
 
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| Cupola || 19 mm ''Cupola is turret front'' || - mm || - mm || 19 mm
 
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While quite large and somewhat heavier than most other light IFVs such as the Wiesel, the BTR-80A boasts a very high top speed of 87 km/h which can be reached quite quickly on roads and trails. The downside of the 8 wheel design is its poor off-road mobility, however it is still quite nimble even on rough ground. It is very common to see BTR-80s rushing caps due to their high speed; they can capture points quite safely and then reposition to either scout or ambush enemy light/medium armour.
  
 
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==== Ammunition ====
 
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* '''Default:''' {{Annotation|AP-T|Armour-piercing tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HEF-I*|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary (self-destroying)}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AP-T|Armour-piercing tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HEF-I*|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary (self-destroying)}}
 
* '''Default:''' {{Annotation|AP-T|Armour-piercing tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HEF-I*|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary (self-destroying)}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AP-T|Armour-piercing tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HEF-I*|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary (self-destroying)}}
 
* '''30 mm HEI:''' {{Annotation|HEF-I*|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary (self-destroying)}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HEF-I*|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary (self-destroying)}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HEF-I*|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary (self-destroying)}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AP-T|Armour-piercing tracer}}
 
* '''30 mm HEI:''' {{Annotation|HEF-I*|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary (self-destroying)}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HEF-I*|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary (self-destroying)}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HEF-I*|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary (self-destroying)}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AP-T|Armour-piercing tracer}}
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== Usage in battles ==
 
== Usage in battles ==
 
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The BTR-80A works very well as a flanker, the great speed allows it to get a jump on any light vehicles intending to do the same, however its lack of armor makes it prone to oneshots, especially as many modern light tanks have HEAT rounds by default. Most medium tanks you find will be completely impenetrable from the front, requiring you to either ambush them from the sides, or incapacitate them by destroying their gun and tracks before moving to their vulnerable sides. Despite this the BTR is still vulnerable to machine gun fire, making an ambush on a group of enemies, even from a side, ill-advised, unless you can dispatch them quickly.
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Although it is not its main purpose, the BTR-80A, especially with its HE rounds, is able to shoot down enemy planes quite easily. But its lack of radar, armor, relatively slow gun handling and limited ammo makes it unsuitable for a dedicated AA role.
  
 
=== Pros and cons ===
 
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'''Pros:'''
 
'''Pros:'''
  
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* 30 mm autocannon
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* Effective 2A72 30 mm autocannon, the same one used on the BMP-3 and BMD-4
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** APDS is great for fighting against light vehicles and MBTs' sides
 
* Fairly mobile and thus very good at flanking
 
* Fairly mobile and thus very good at flanking
 
* Amphibious
 
* Amphibious
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* APDS is great for fighting against light vehicles and MBTs' sides
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* Quiet engine
  
 
'''Cons:'''
 
'''Cons:'''
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* Huge profile
 
* Huge profile
 
* Poor survivability due to thin armour, minimal crew number and large size
 
* Poor survivability due to thin armour, minimal crew number and large size
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* -5° gun depression and slower gun handling
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* -5° gun depression and slow gun handling
 
* Has no stabiliser
 
* Has no stabiliser
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* Relatively low power-to-weight ratio
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* Can be destroyed by most heavy machine guns
  
 
== History ==
 
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* [[BTR-80A (Italy)]]
  
 
== External links ==
 
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Latest revision as of 05:18, 20 August 2024

Rank VI USSR | Premium | Golden Eagles
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This page is about the Soviet light tank BTR-80A. For the other version, see BTR-80A (Italy).
BTR-80A
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BTR-80A
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Battle rating:
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7.3 7.3 7.3
Class:
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Purchase:270 000 Specs-Card-Lion.png
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Description

In the post-World War II environment, the Soviet sought to provide their infantry with a method to remain mobile on the battlefield. While armoured units received BMPs to keep the armoured infantry mobile with the tanks, motorizing rifle divisions required a cheaper, more numerous transport to house all the infantry. The BTR series of armoured cars would first be modernized with the 8x8 wheeled BTR-60 in the 1960s, with updates into the BTR-70 and BTR-80 in their respective decades. The BTR-80 was distinguished from the preceding two variants with the usage of a diesel engine and turret modifications that allowed it to elevate the main armament to a high degree to engage in mountainous terrain or urban areas. The BTR-80 would receive an update in the 1990s that added the 30 mm 2A72 autocannon as its main armament in a new turret designated BPPU.

The BTR-80A, introduced in Update "La Royale", follows the trend of a light tank with an autocannon armament that can shred apart medium tanks in ambushes. Unlike its contemporaries like the Wiesel 1A4, the BTR-80A is a rather large vehicle, quite similar to the BMPs. Not to mention the wheeled design can interfere with cross-country mobility so that finding a good place to hide outside of urban terrain can be difficult. As such, finding a suitable hiding place to ambush the enemies with the autocannon can be complicated by the BTR-80A's size and wheeled performance. That said, the 30 mm 2A72 autocannon that is found on the BMP-3 packs a much higher punch with its APDS rounds. This allows the BTR-80A the ability to attack more enemies from a farther away distance with the 30 mm and should be exploited by watching common enemy travel routes from a distance to riddle their side armour to shreds.

General info

Survivability and armour

Smoke grenades
Creation of a smoke screen in front of the vehicle
Armourfront / side / back
Hull12 / 8 / 6
Turret23 / 23 / 13
Crew3 people
Visibility136 %

Despite being a light tank, the armour of the BTR-80 is not to be underestimated. The frontal armour is capable of saving you from coaxial and roof-mounted MG's of tanks such as rank IV and V Leopards, and opponents such as early American MBT's (e.g. MBT-70). A notably much more dangerous opponent would be American and German 20 mm and above autocannons, but even against these the BTR-80 can provide some protection. Notable armoured spots include turret cheeks, a portion of the upper hull right above the driver/commander optics, and a portion of the lower hull right below the frontal structural steel. So although it is best to avoid being shot at, the BTR-80's armour can provide effective protection against most coaxial and roof mounted MG's and some autocannons. Though it is worth noting that autocannons can penetrate the BTR-80 nearly anywhere if shot from the side.

Armour type:

  • High hardness rolled armor (Front, sides, rear, roof, turret)
Armour Front (Slope angle) Sides Rear Roof
Hull 10 mm (57°) Upper plate

12mm (55°) Lower plate

8 mm (36°)Top
8 mm Bottom 		6 mm 8 mm - 6 mm
Gun mount 23 mm - 19mm Base front (35°) 23 mm 12 mm - 13 mm 23 mm
Cupola 19 mm Cupola is turret front - mm - mm 19 mm

Notes:

Mobility

Amphibious
The design allows you to swim and control movement in the water
Speedforward / back
AB97 / 14 km/h
RB and SB87 / 12 km/h
Number of gears10 forward
2 back
Weight14.6 t
Engine power
AB496 hp
RB and SB260 hp
Power-to-weight ratio
AB34.0 hp/t
RB and SB17.8 hp/t

While quite large and somewhat heavier than most other light IFVs such as the Wiesel, the BTR-80A boasts a very high top speed of 87 km/h which can be reached quite quickly on roads and trails. The downside of the 8 wheel design is its poor off-road mobility, however it is still quite nimble even on rough ground. It is very common to see BTR-80s rushing caps due to their high speed; they can capture points quite safely and then reposition to either scout or ambush enemy light/medium armour.

Game Mode Max Speed (km/h) Weight (tons) Engine power (horsepower) Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
Forward Reverse Stock Upgraded Stock Upgraded
Arcade 97 14 14.6 403 496 27.6 33.97
Realistic 87 12 230 260 15.75 17.81

Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference
AB3 025 → 4 392 Sl icon.png
RB3 664 → 5 320 Sl icon.png
SB4 919 → 7 142 Sl icon.png
Total cost of modifications77 500 Rp icon.png
129 400 Sl icon.png
Talisman cost2 000 Ge icon.png
Crew training78 000 Sl icon.png
Experts270 000 Sl icon.png
Aces1 100 Ge icon.png
Research Aces670 000 Rp icon.png
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
110 / 160 / 200 % Sl icon.png
190 / 190 / 190 % Rp icon.png
Modifications
Mobility Protection Firepower
Mods new wheels.png
Tires
Research:
3 200 Rp icon.png
Cost:
5 200 Sl icon.png
165 Ge icon.png
Mods new car suspension.png
Suspension
Research:
3 600 Rp icon.png
Cost:
5 800 Sl icon.png
185 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank break.png
Brake System
Research:
3 600 Rp icon.png
Cost:
5 800 Sl icon.png
185 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank filter.png
Filters
Research:
6 700 Rp icon.png
Cost:
11 000 Sl icon.png
350 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank transmission.png
Transmission
Research:
4 300 Rp icon.png
Cost:
6 900 Sl icon.png
220 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank engine.png
Engine
Research:
4 300 Rp icon.png
Cost:
6 900 Sl icon.png
220 Ge icon.png
Mods tank tool kit.png
Improved Parts
Research:
2 100 Rp icon.png
Cost:
5 200 Sl icon.png
165 Ge icon.png
Mods extinguisher.png
Improved FPE
Research:
2 300 Rp icon.png
Cost:
5 800 Sl icon.png
185 Ge icon.png
Mods tank reinforcement ussr.png
Crew Replenishment
Research:
6 700 Rp icon.png
Cost:
11 000 Sl icon.png
350 Ge icon.png
Mods smoke screen.png
Smoke grenade
Research:
4 300 Rp icon.png
Cost:
6 900 Sl icon.png
220 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank horizontal aiming.png
Horizontal Drive
Research:
3 200 Rp icon.png
Cost:
5 200 Sl icon.png
165 Ge icon.png
Mods tank ammo.png
30mm_2a72_BTR_HE_ammo_pack
Research:
3 200 Rp icon.png
Cost:
5 200 Sl icon.png
165 Ge icon.png
Mods tank ammo.png
30mm_2a72_BTR_AP_ammo_pack
Research:
3 200 Rp icon.png
Cost:
5 200 Sl icon.png
165 Ge icon.png
Mods tank cannon.png
Adjustment of Fire
Research:
3 600 Rp icon.png
Cost:
5 800 Sl icon.png
185 Ge icon.png
Mods airstrike.png
Airstrike
Research:
3 600 Rp icon.png
Cost:
5 800 Sl icon.png
185 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank vertical aiming.png
Elevation Mechanism
Research:
6 700 Rp icon.png
Cost:
11 000 Sl icon.png
350 Ge icon.png
Mods art support.png
Artillery Support
Research:
4 300 Rp icon.png
Cost:
6 900 Sl icon.png
220 Ge icon.png
Mods scouting.png
Improved optics
Research:
4 300 Rp icon.png
Cost:
6 900 Sl icon.png
220 Ge icon.png
Mods tank ammo.png
30mm_2a42_APDS_ammo_pack
Research:
4 300 Rp icon.png
Cost:
6 900 Sl icon.png
220 Ge icon.png

Armaments

Main armament

30 mm 2A72 automatic cannon
Ammunition300 rounds
Belt capacity150 rounds
Reloadbasic crew → aces
1.3 → 1.0 s
Fire rate330 shots/min
Vertical guidance-5° / 70°
Main article: 2A72 (30 mm)
30 mm 2A72 Turret rotation speed (°/s) Reloading rate (seconds)
Mode Capacity (Belt) Fire rate Vertical Horizontal Stabilizer Stock Upgraded Full Expert Aced Stock Full Expert Aced
Arcade 300 (150) 330 -5°/+70° ±180° - 28.6 39.5 48.0 53.1 56.5 1.30 1.15 1.06 1.00
Realistic 17.9 21.0 25.5 28.2 30.0

Ammunition

  • Default: AP-T · HEF-I* · AP-T · HEF-I*
  • 30 mm HEI: HEF-I* · HEF-I* · HEF-I* · AP-T
  • 30 mm APT: AP-T · AP-T · AP-T · HEF-T*
  • 30 mm APDS: APDS · APDS · APDS · APDS · HEF-T*

Penetration statistics
Ammunition Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
10 m 100 m 500 m 1,000 m 1,500 m 2,000 m
HEF-I* 8 7 6 5 4 3
AP-T 65 63 53 44 36 29
HEF-T* 9 8 7 5 4 3
APDS 82 81 79 75 72 69
Shell details
Ammunition Velocity
(m/s) 		Projectile
mass (kg) 		Fuse delay
(m) 		Fuse sensitivity
(mm) 		Explosive mass
(TNT equivalent) (g) 		Ricochet
0% 50% 100%
HEF-I* 960 0.39 0.1 0.1 75.46 79° 80° 81°
AP-T 970 0.4 - - - 47° 60° 65°
HEF-T* 960 0.39 0.1 0.1 17.86 79° 80° 81°
APDS 1,120 0.3 - - - 75° 78° 80°

Ammo racks

Full
ammo 		1st
rack empty 		2nd
rack empty 		3rd
rack empty 		4th
rack empty 		5th
rack empty 		6th
rack empty 		Visual
discrepancy
2 __ (+__) __ (+__) __ (+__) __ (+__) __ (+__) __ (+__) __

Machine guns

7.62 mm PKT machine gun (coaxial)
Ammunition2 000 rounds
Belt capacity250 rounds
Reloadbasic crew → aces
10.4 → 8.0 s
Fire rate700 shots/min
Main article: PKT (7.62 mm)
7.62 mm PKT
Mount Capacity (Belt) Fire rate Vertical Horizontal
Coaxial 2,000 (250) 700 - -

Usage in battles

The BTR-80A works very well as a flanker, the great speed allows it to get a jump on any light vehicles intending to do the same, however its lack of armor makes it prone to oneshots, especially as many modern light tanks have HEAT rounds by default. Most medium tanks you find will be completely impenetrable from the front, requiring you to either ambush them from the sides, or incapacitate them by destroying their gun and tracks before moving to their vulnerable sides. Despite this the BTR is still vulnerable to machine gun fire, making an ambush on a group of enemies, even from a side, ill-advised, unless you can dispatch them quickly.

Although it is not its main purpose, the BTR-80A, especially with its HE rounds, is able to shoot down enemy planes quite easily. But its lack of radar, armor, relatively slow gun handling and limited ammo makes it unsuitable for a dedicated AA role.

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Effective 2A72 30 mm autocannon, the same one used on the BMP-3 and BMD-4
    • APDS is great for fighting against light vehicles and MBTs' sides
  • Fairly mobile and thus very good at flanking
  • Amphibious
  • Quiet engine

Cons:

  • Huge profile
  • Poor survivability due to thin armour, minimal crew number and large size
  • -5° gun depression and slow gun handling
  • Has no stabiliser
  • Relatively low power-to-weight ratio
  • Can be destroyed by most heavy machine guns

History

The BTR-80 armored personnel carrier was developed with experience from using the previous vehicles of the series, BTR-60 and BTR-70, in peacetime and combat operations of the Afghan war. The vehicle received a new 260 hp engine, reinforced armor, improved fire ports for the small arms of the troops inside, as well as other improvements. The main gun of the BTR-80 remained a heavy machine gun, however, due to the low efficiency of machine gun fire against modern lightly armored targets, an improved version of the vehicle with a 30mm 2A72 autocannon appeared in 1993, designated as BTR-80A. Vehicles of the BTR-80 family took part in all major armed conflicts in the territory of the former USSR and a number of other countries. Despite the commissioning of more advanced APCs, the BTR-80A is still in service with the Russian Army to this day.

- From Devblog

Media

Skins

See also

Related development

External links


USSR light tanks
T-26  T-26 · T-26 (1st Gv.T.Br.) · T-26-4 · T-26E
BT  BT-5 · RBT-5 · BT-7 · BT-7 TD · BT-7M · BT-7A (F-32)
T-50  T-126 · T-50
T-70  T-70 · T-80
PT-76  PT-76B · PT-76-57 · Object 906
BMP  BMP-1 · BMP-2 · BMP-2M · BMP-3
BMD  BMD-4
2S25  2S25 · 2S25M
Wheeled  BA-11 · BTR-80A
Other  T-60 · Object 685 · 2S38
China  ▂Type 62

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