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== Description ==
 
== Description ==
 
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} French jet fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Drone Age"]].
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' was an all-weather interceptor variant of the Vautour II. For its time, it was a very capable interceptor, with almost supersonic speeds, it was capable of intercepting most Soviet bombers and other aircrafts at high altitude. For this task, it used the much improved SNECMA ATAR 101E5 engine, it also had 2 crewmembers, a pilot and a navigator in a two seat configuration. For interception, it was equipped with the DRAC-32A radar that was very powerful for its time of introduction, this came with access to carry AA-20 Nord MCLOS guided air-to-air missiles, as well as Matra R511 radar guided missiles later on. The Vautour IIN was used up until the 1970s, after which it was retired.
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Introduced in [[Update "Drone Age"]], the '''{{Specs|name}}''' has access to a set of very powerful engines. However this comes with the fact that the Vautour II is very sluggish and has access to only mediocre weapons. Its main armament is the R511 radar guided missile, and while most aircrafts at this rank don't have countermeasures, the missile is very slow and easy to avoid, it has also a mediocre guidance system, and it requires a few seconds to reach maximum maneuverability. Thus the Vautour IIN should be used at altitudes above 3000 m so that its radar can be effectively used against climbing enemies, like the F-104s in case of an uptier.
  
 
== General info ==
 
== General info ==
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! Stock
 
! Stock
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| 1,094 || 1,091 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 32.6 || 33.2 || 43.1 || 41.0 || rowspan="2" | 900
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| 1,101 || 1,098 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 32.6 || 33.2 || 42.9 || 38.8 || rowspan="2" | 900
 
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! Upgraded
 
! Upgraded
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| 1,106 || 1,100 || 31.4 || 32.0 || 62.7 || 52.0
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| 1,113 || 1,107 || 31.5 || 32.0 || 69.0 || 55.0
 
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! colspan="2" | {{Annotation|Basic mass|Mass of the aircraft with pilot and engine oil, but no fuel or weapons load}} || colspan="2" | Wing loading (full fuel)
 
! colspan="2" | {{Annotation|Basic mass|Mass of the aircraft with pilot and engine oil, but no fuel or weapons load}} || colspan="2" | Wing loading (full fuel)
 
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| colspan="2" | SNECMA Atar 101E3 || 2
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| colspan="2" | SNECMA Atar 101E5 || 2
 
| colspan="2" | 11,211 kg || colspan="2" | 320 kg/m<sup>2</sup>
 
| colspan="2" | 11,211 kg || colspan="2" | 320 kg/m<sup>2</sup>
 
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! Weight (each) || colspan="2" | Type
 
! Weight (each) || colspan="2" | Type
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! 8m fuel || 20m fuel || 27m fuel
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! 8m fuel || 20m fuel || 26m fuel
 
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| 950 kg || colspan="2" | Axial-flow turbojet
 
| 950 kg || colspan="2" | Axial-flow turbojet
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| 12,166 kg || 13,552 kg || 14,393 kg || 15,181 kg
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| 12,166 kg || 13,573 kg || 14,393 kg || 15,169 kg
 
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! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB/SB)|The maximum thrust produced by each engine, while mounted in the aircraft. NOTE: Thrust varies significantly depending on speed & altitude.}}
 
! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB/SB)|The maximum thrust produced by each engine, while mounted in the aircraft. NOTE: Thrust varies significantly depending on speed & altitude.}}
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! colspan="4" | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (100%)
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! colspan="4" | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (110%)
 
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! Condition || 100% || WEP
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! Condition || 100% || 110%
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! 8m fuel || 20m fuel || 27m fuel || MGW
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! 8m fuel || 20m fuel || 26m fuel || MGW
 
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| ''Stationary'' || 3,293 kgf || N/A
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| ''Stationary'' || 3,322 kgf || 3,787 kgf
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| 0.54 || 0.49 || 0.46 || 0.43
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| 0.62 || 0.56 || 0.53 || 0.50
 
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| ''Optimal'' || 3,628 kgf<br>(1,166 km/h) || N/A
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| ''Optimal'' || 3,661 kgf<br>(1,166 km/h) || 4,173 kgf<br>(1,166 km/h)
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| 0.60 || 0.54 || 0.50 || 0.48
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| 0.69 || 0.61 || 0.58 || 0.55
 
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{{Specs-Avia-Suspended}}
 
{{Specs-Avia-Suspended}}
 
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The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
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* Without load
 
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* 4 x AA-20 Nord missiles
 
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* 4 x Matra R511 missiles
 
  
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==== Custom loadout options ====
 
 
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! AA-20 Nord missiles
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! [[AA-20 Nord]] missiles
 
| 1 || 1 || 1 || 1
 
| 1 || 1 || 1 || 1
 
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! Matra R511 missiles
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! [[Matra R511]] missiles
 
| 1 || 1 || 1 || 1
 
| 1 || 1 || 1 || 1
 
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{{Navigation-Start|Default weapon presets}}
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* Without load
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* 4 x AA-20 Nord missiles
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* 4 x Matra R511 missiles
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{{Navigation-End}}
  
 
== Usage in battles ==
 
== Usage in battles ==
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'''Pros:'''
 
'''Pros:'''
  
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* Has great acceleration and good top speed
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* It has the same engines of the [[S.O.4050 Vautour IIB]], giving an '''outstanding''' acceleration in maximum power and good top speed
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* Able to mix the loadouts of AA Nords and R.511
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* Able to mix the loadouts of AA-20 Nord and R.511 missiles
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* The AA-Nords are very useful and reliable in head-ons thanks to the great proxy fuse and warhead, and the R.511 in most situations as the Vautour is able to lock by radar
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* The AA-20 Nords are very useful and reliable in head-ons thanks to the great proxy fuse and warhead, and the R.511 in most situations as the Vautour is able to lock by radar
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* Excellent quadruple 30MM cannons with good ammo capacity and insane damage
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* Excellent quadruple 30 mm cannons with good ammo capacity and insane damage
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* R.511 has excellent maneuverability for an early radar-guided missile, and also the radar has much less ground interference compared to its contemporaries
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* R.511 has excellent manoeuvrability for an early radar-guided missile, and also the radar has much less ground interference compared to its contemporaries
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* Has a airspawn, giving it the ability to perform an initial deadly surprise attack against any opponent with its unique and effective weapons set
  
 
'''Cons:'''
 
'''Cons:'''
  
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* Although maneuverable, the R.511 is one of the slowest missiles in the game, it is not able to catch enemies with considerable speed in a tail chase
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* The engines overheat quickly at 110%
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* The R.511 produces a pretty visible smoke from kilometers away, and many planes can see and evade pretty easily
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* Incredibly poor manoeuvrability in any manoeuvre and speed
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* Incredibly poor maneuverability in any maneuver and speed
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* It's the Vautour with the less turning capacity compared to any variant, as the Flight Model is shared with the [[S.O.4050 Vautour IIA]], not having an all-flying tail while the extra thrust increases the already extreme compression
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* Unlike [[S.O.4050 Vautour IIN|its premium counterpart]], entirely lacks air-to-ground options, making it a one-dimensional vehicle.
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* Although manoeuvrable, the R.511 is one of the slowest missiles in the game, it is not able to catch enemies with considerable speed in a tail chase
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* the AA-Nords missiles are MCLOS, needing specific keybinds and full manual guidance by the pilot in certain situations, not beginner-friendly
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* The R.511 produces a pretty visible smoke from kilometres away, and many planes can see and evade pretty easily
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* Entirely lacks air-to-ground options, making it a one-dimensional vehicle.
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* The AA-20 Nord missiles are MCLOS, needing specific keybinds and full manual guidance by the pilot in certain situations, not beginner-friendly
  
 
== History ==
 
== History ==
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== Media ==
 
== Media ==
 
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* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=so_4050_vautour_2n_late Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
  
 
== See also ==
 
== See also ==

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Description

The S.O.4050 Vautour IIN (late) was an all-weather interceptor variant of the Vautour II. For its time, it was a very capable interceptor, with almost supersonic speeds, it was capable of intercepting most Soviet bombers and other aircrafts at high altitude. For this task, it used the much improved SNECMA ATAR 101E5 engine, it also had 2 crewmembers, a pilot and a navigator in a two seat configuration. For interception, it was equipped with the DRAC-32A radar that was very powerful for its time of introduction, this came with access to carry AA-20 Nord MCLOS guided air-to-air missiles, as well as Matra R511 radar guided missiles later on. The Vautour IIN was used up until the 1970s, after which it was retired.

Introduced in Update "Drone Age", the S.O.4050 Vautour IIN (late) has access to a set of very powerful engines. However this comes with the fact that the Vautour II is very sluggish and has access to only mediocre weapons. Its main armament is the R511 radar guided missile, and while most aircrafts at this rank don't have countermeasures, the missile is very slow and easy to avoid, it has also a mediocre guidance system, and it requires a few seconds to reach maximum maneuverability. Thus the Vautour IIN should be used at altitudes above 3000 m so that its radar can be effectively used against climbing enemies, like the F-104s in case of an uptier.

General info

Flight performance

Air brakes
Allows you to dramatically reduce the flight speed by releasing special flaps
Drogue parachute
Reduces braking distance when landing on any runway
Max speed
at 0 m1 107 km/h
Turn time32 s
Max altitude15 000 m
Engine2 х SNECMA Atar 101E5
TypeJet
Cooling systemAir
Take-off weight21 t

The Vautour IIN boasts a top speed of just under Mach 1 and adequate acceleration. On the other side, it has very poor manoeuvrability in its BR range, right behind the Tu-4. Neither of its two possible loadouts noticeably affects flight performance.

Characteristics Max speed
(km/h at 0 m - sea level) 		Max altitude
(metres) 		Turn time
(seconds) 		Rate of climb
(metres/second) 		Take-off run
(metres)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
Stock 1,101 1,098 15000 32.6 33.2 42.9 38.8 900
Upgraded 1,113 1,107 31.5 32.0 69.0 55.0

Details

Features
Combat flaps Take-off flaps Landing flaps Air brakes Arrestor gear Drogue chute
✓ ✓ ✓ ✓ X ✓
Limits
Wings (km/h) Gear (km/h) Flaps (km/h) Max Static G
Combat Take-off Landing + -
1,166 425 584 564 463 ~7 ~3
Optimal velocities (km/h)
Ailerons Rudder Elevators Radiator
< 480 < 620 < 590 N/A

Engine performance

Engine Aircraft mass
Engine name Number Basic mass Wing loading (full fuel)
SNECMA Atar 101E5 2 11,211 kg 320 kg/m2
Engine characteristics Mass with fuel (no weapons load) Max Gross
Weight
Weight (each) Type 8m fuel 20m fuel 26m fuel
950 kg Axial-flow turbojet 12,166 kg 13,573 kg 14,393 kg 15,169 kg
Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB/SB) Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (110%)
Condition 100% 110% 8m fuel 20m fuel 26m fuel MGW
Stationary 3,322 kgf 3,787 kgf 0.62 0.56 0.53 0.50
Optimal 3,661 kgf
(1,166 km/h) 		4,173 kgf
(1,166 km/h) 		0.69 0.61 0.58 0.55

Survivability and armour

Crew2 people
Speed of destruction
Structural0 km/h
Gear425 km/h

Despite its size, the Vautour will quickly break down if it gets shot at. The pilot is prone to get knocked out easily as well.

Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference
AB3 065 → 4 165 Sl icon.png
RB9 231 → 12 544 Sl icon.png
SB10 040 → 13 644 Sl icon.png
Total cost of modifications91 100 Rp icon.png
146 800 Sl icon.png
Talisman cost2 100 Ge icon.png
Crew training86 000 Sl icon.png
Experts300 000 Sl icon.png
Aces1 700 Ge icon.png
Research Aces720 000 Rp icon.png
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
120 / 370 / 600 % Sl icon.png
196 / 196 / 196 % Rp icon.png
Modifications
Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
Mods aerodinamic fuse.png
Fuselage repair
Research:
9 100 Rp icon.png
Cost:
15 000 Sl icon.png
390 Ge icon.png
Mods jet compressor.png
Compressor
Research:
5 100 Rp icon.png
Cost:
8 200 Sl icon.png
220 Ge icon.png
Mods booster.png
New boosters
Research:
5 100 Rp icon.png
Cost:
8 200 Sl icon.png
220 Ge icon.png
Mods aerodinamic wing.png
Wings repair
Research:
7 600 Rp icon.png
Cost:
12 000 Sl icon.png
330 Ge icon.png
Mods jet engine.png
Engine
Research:
7 600 Rp icon.png
Cost:
12 000 Sl icon.png
330 Ge icon.png
Mods g suit.png
G-suit
Research:
9 900 Rp icon.png
Cost:
16 000 Sl icon.png
430 Ge icon.png
Mods armor frame.png
Airframe
Research:
5 100 Rp icon.png
Cost:
8 200 Sl icon.png
220 Ge icon.png
Mods armor cover.png
Cover
Research:
9 900 Rp icon.png
Cost:
16 000 Sl icon.png
430 Ge icon.png
Mods ammo.png
aden_belt_pack
Research:
9 100 Rp icon.png
Cost:
15 000 Sl icon.png
390 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 1.png
Mods air to air missile.png
Nord AA.20
Research:
5 100 Rp icon.png
Cost:
8 200 Sl icon.png
220 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 1.png
Mods weapon.png
aden_new_gun
Research:
7 600 Rp icon.png
Cost:
12 000 Sl icon.png
330 Ge icon.png
Mods air to air missile.png
Matra R511
Research:
9 900 Rp icon.png
Cost:
16 000 Sl icon.png
430 Ge icon.png

Armaments

Offensive armament

Main article: DEFA 552 (30 mm)

The S.O.4050 Vautour IIN (late) is armed with:

  • 4 x 30 mm DEFA 552 cannons, nose-mounted (100 rpg = 400 total)

Suspended armament

The S.O.4050 Vautour IIN (late) can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

1 2 3 4
Hardpoints S.O.4050 Vautour IIN (late).png
AA-20 Nord missiles 1 1 1 1
Matra R511 missiles 1 1 1 1
Default weapon presets
  • Without load
  • 4 x AA-20 Nord missiles
  • 4 x Matra R511 missiles

Usage in battles

The Vautour II N is an interceptor, and for the most part, can only be played as such. Due to its very poor manoeuvrability, attempting to turn fight is akin to suicide. The Vautour is best at keeping its top speed and using tried and true boom and zoom tactics. There are too few bombers at the Vautour's BR, thus its best opportunity is head-on engagements. Both of the Vautour's loadouts are worthwhile in that role, the 4 x AA-20 Nord missiles may be manually-guided missiles, but they do not require mastery of manual guidance or even the usage of it to be worthwhile, they are proximity-fuze and are a perfect surprise head-on weapon. Launching 2 of them at the 2 km threshold can be particularly effective.

Meanwhile, the 4 x radar-guided Matra R511 missiles are not particularly reliable but can be launched as soon as passing the 8 km threshold, and can be quite effective against the occasional bomber.

There are several big threats to the Vautour, take care around the Sea Vixen F.A.W. Mk.2, while the Vautour cannot really dodge missiles, it can often outrun them, but this does not apply to the Sea Vixen as it is faster than the Vautour and will eventually catch up.

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • It has the same engines of the S.O.4050 Vautour IIB, giving an outstanding acceleration in maximum power and good top speed
  • Able to mix the loadouts of AA-20 Nord and R.511 missiles
  • The AA-20 Nords are very useful and reliable in head-ons thanks to the great proxy fuse and warhead, and the R.511 in most situations as the Vautour is able to lock by radar
  • Excellent quadruple 30 mm cannons with good ammo capacity and insane damage
  • R.511 has excellent manoeuvrability for an early radar-guided missile, and also the radar has much less ground interference compared to its contemporaries
  • Has a airspawn, giving it the ability to perform an initial deadly surprise attack against any opponent with its unique and effective weapons set

Cons:

  • The engines overheat quickly at 110%
  • Incredibly poor manoeuvrability in any manoeuvre and speed
  • It's the Vautour with the less turning capacity compared to any variant, as the Flight Model is shared with the S.O.4050 Vautour IIA, not having an all-flying tail while the extra thrust increases the already extreme compression
  • Although manoeuvrable, the R.511 is one of the slowest missiles in the game, it is not able to catch enemies with considerable speed in a tail chase
  • The R.511 produces a pretty visible smoke from kilometres away, and many planes can see and evade pretty easily
  • Entirely lacks air-to-ground options, making it a one-dimensional vehicle.
  • The AA-20 Nord missiles are MCLOS, needing specific keybinds and full manual guidance by the pilot in certain situations, not beginner-friendly

History

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Media

Skins

See also

Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:

  • reference to the series of the aircraft;
  • links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.

External links

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  • other literature.


SNCA SO (Société nationale des constructions aéronautiques du sud-ouest)
Fighters  S.O.8000 Narval
Jet Fighters  S.O.4050 Vautour IIN (late)
Jet Bombers  S.O.4050 Vautour IIA · S.O.4050 Vautour IIB · S.O.4050 Vautour IIN
Export  Vautour IIA IDF/AF · Vautour IIA · Vautour IIN

France jet aircraft
Fighters  M.D.450B Ouragan · M.D.450B Barougan · M.D.452 IIA · M.D.452 IIC · Mystere IVA · Super Mystere B2
  ▄F-86K · ▄F-100D · ▄F-8E(FN)
  Mirage IIIC · Mirage IIIE · Milan · Mirage 5F · Mirage 2000C-S4 · Mirage 2000C-S5 · Mirage 2000-5F · Mirage 4000
  Mirage F1C · Mirage F1C-200 · Mirage F1CT
Strike aircraft  ▄F-84F · F-84F IAF · ▄F-84G-26-RE
  Etendard IVM · Super Etendard · Alpha Jet E
  Jaguar A · Jaguar E · Mirage 2000D-R1 · Mirage 2000D-RMV
Bombers  S.O.4050 Vautour IIA · Vautour IIA IDF/AF · S.O.4050 Vautour IIB · S.O.4050 Vautour IIN · S.O.4050 Vautour IIN (late)
Belgium  ▄Meteor F Mk.8 · ▄Mirage 5BA · ▄F-104G · ▄F-16A · ▄F-16AM
Netherlands  ◘Sea Hawk Mk.50 · ◘Hunter F.6

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