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T18B

B18B

T18B (57)

T18B

AB	RB	SB
3.7	4.3	4.0

Class:

Bomber

Dive bomber

Torpedo bomber

Research:26 000

Purchase:76 000

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Description

The T18B is a rank III Swedish bomber with a battle rating of 3.7 (AB), 4.3 (RB), and 4.0 (SB). It was introduced in Update 1.95 "Northern Wind".

General info

Flight performance

Air brakes

Allows you to dramatically reduce the flight speed by releasing special flaps

Max speed

at 6 000 m595 km/h

Turn time25 s

Max altitude11 000 m

Engine2 х Daimler-Benz DB-605B

Type

Cooling systemAir

Take-off weight9 t

The T18B-1 is an exceptionally fast aircraft at its rank, zooming past its contemporary bombers and reaching into fighter territory, able to reach an excellent 595 km/h (370 mph) in RB and a staggering 619 km/h (385 mph) in AB. Its high speed and reasonable armament platform of 2 x 20 mm cannons + 1 x 13.2 mm machine gun allows it to be a respectable multi-role aircraft that can take on almost any combat situation you throw at it. One might think that the high performance comes at the cost of payload, as traditional with the Schnellbomber type of bomber, But this is not the case with the T18B, as it carries more than enough ordnance to either heavily damage a base (AB) or destroy a few (RB).

Characteristics	Max Speed (km/h at 6,000 m)		Max altitude (metres)	Turn time (seconds)		Rate of climb (metres/second)		Take-off run (metres)
Characteristics	AB	RB	Max altitude (metres)	AB	RB	AB	RB	Take-off run (metres)
Stock	572	555	11000	26.3	27.4	7.3	7.2	450
Upgraded	619	595	11000	23.8	25.0	14.1	10.3	450

Details

Features
Combat flaps	Take-off flaps	Landing flaps	Air brakes	Arrestor gear
✓	✓	✓	✓	X

Limits
Wings (km/h)	Gear (km/h)	Flaps (km/h)			Max Static G
Wings (km/h)	Gear (km/h)	Combat	Take-off	Landing	+	-
735	320	467	438	290	~7	~3

Optimal velocities (km/h)
Ailerons	Rudder	Elevators	Radiator
< 370	< 350	< 400	> 420

Survivability and armour

Crew2 people

Speed of destruction

Structural735 km/h

Gear320 km/h

Protective components found in the T18B.

10 mm steel - cockpit floor under pilot's seat
10 mm steel - pilot's backseat
10 mm steel - rear gunner protective plate
10 mm steel - cockpit floor under gunner's seat
10 mm steel - aft protective plate

Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference

AB1 185 → 1 529

RB2 464 → 3 181

SB4 393 → 5 671

Total cost of modifications24 450

44 500

Talisman cost1 100

Crew training22 000

Experts76 000

Aces500

Research Aces320 000

Reward for battleAB / RB / SB

80 / 180 / 290 %

142 / 142 / 142 %

Modifications

Flight performance

Survivability

Weaponry

Fuselage repair Research: 990 Cost: 1 800 135	Radiator Research: 990 Cost: 1 800 135
Airframe Research: 1 100 Cost: 2 000 150	Compressor Research: 1 100 Cost: 2 000 150
Wings repair Research: 1 200 Cost: 2 200 160	Engine Research: 1 200 Cost: 2 200 160
Cover Research: 1 600 Cost: 2 900 220	Engine injection Research: 1 600 Cost: 2 900 220

akan_m47_belt_pack Research: 990 Cost: 1 800 135	m/40(250) Research: 990 Cost: 1 800 135	13_2_akan_m39_belt_pack Research: 990 Cost: 1 800 135
akan_m47_new_gun Research: 1 100 Cost: 2 000 150	m/38 Research: 1 100 Cost: 2 000 150	13_2_akan_m39_new_gun Research: 1 100 Cost: 2 000 150
13_2_akan_m39_turret_belt_pack Research: 1 200 Cost: 2 200 160	m/41 Research: 1 200 Cost: 2 200 160	m/49B Research: 1 200 Cost: 2 200 160
13_2_akan_m39_turret_new_gun Research: 1 600 Cost: 2 900 220	m/50(600) Research: 1 600 Cost: 2 900 220	m/51 Research: 1 600 Cost: 2 900 220

Your research path should be tailored to the role you wish to employ the T18B in. For the traditional bomber, it is important to research payload first as the stock payload is a pitiful 18 x 50 kg bombs. For the heavy fighter/interceptor, the offensive cannon upgrades are of great importance followed by flight performance upgrades. Ground attacker should be a mix of the two, as it is important for a ground-pounder to have both speed and payload.

Armaments

Offensive armament

Main articles: Akan m/41A (20 mm), Akan m/39A (13.2 mm)

The T18B is armed with:

2 x 20 mm Akan m/41A cannons, chin-mounted (60 rpg = 120 total)
1 x 13.2 mm Akan m/39A machine gun, wing-mounted (300 rpg)

Suspended armament

Main articles: sb m/42 (50 kg), mb m/40 (250 kg), mb m/41 (500 kg), mb m/50 (600 kg)

Main articles: psrak m/49A, srak m/51, m/38 (450 mm)

The T18B can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

18 x 50 kg sb m/42 bombs (900 kg total)
3 x 250 kg mb m/40 bombs (750 kg total)
3 x 250 kg mb m/40 bombs + 8 x 50 kg sb m/42 bombs (1,150 kg total)
1 x 450 mm m/38 torpedo
2 x 500 kg mb m/41 bombs (1,000 kg total)
2 x 500 kg mb m/41 bombs + 8 x 50 kg sb m/42 bombs (1,400 kg total)
2 x 600 kg mb m/50 bombs (1,200 kg total)
2 x 600 kg mb m/50 bombs + 8 x 50 kg sb m/42 bombs (1,600 kg total)
8 x psrak m/49A rockets
8 x srak m/51 rockets
10 x 50 kg sb m/42 bombs + 8 x psrak m/49A rockets (500 kg total)
10 x 50 kg sb m/42 bombs + 8 x srak m/51 rockets (500 kg total)
3 x 250 kg mb m/40 bombs + 8 x psrak m/49A rockets (750 kg total)
8 x srak m/51 rockets + 1 x 450 mm m/38 torpedo
3 x 250 kg mb m/40 bombs + 8 x srak m/51 rockets (750 kg total)
8 x psrak m/49A rockets + 1 x 450 mm m/38 torpedo
2 x 500 kg mb m/41 bombs + 8 x psrak m/49A rockets (1,000 kg total)
2 x 500 kg mb m/41 bombs + 8 x srak m/51 rockets (1,000 kg total)
2 x 600 kg mb m/50 bombs + 8 x psrak m/49A rockets (1,200 kg total)
2 x 600 kg mb m/50 bombs + 8 x srak m/51 rockets (1,200 kg total)

Defensive armament

Main article: Akan m/39 (13.2 mm)

The T18B is defended by:

1 x 13.2 mm Akan m/39 machine gun, dorsal turret (300 rpg)

Compared to the other Saab 18 models the T18B have one less defensive 13.2mm Akan m/39, leaving its belly open for enemy fighters to attack from below if left unattended. A single 13.2mm can still prove lethal to planes at the BR it is at, if a enemy is straight behind the 13.2mm can do quite the damage to the enemy engine and knocking out pilots.

Usage in battles

Speed and altitude are your best friends when flying the T18B-1, as you must keep both up in order to ensure your survival. You may be fast, but you are not invincible, as there are many aircraft at the BR that will easily catch you such as the P-47D, P-61, Bf 109 F-4 and the I-185 twins. However, you can easily turn the tables on your would-be attackers by forcing them to stall then shred them with your impressive forward armament.

Alternatively, you can take the offensive route by employing a heavy fighter flying style and hunt down enemy bombers. You can mainly do this as a result of your bomber air spawn, but you must be careful to avoid enemy interceptors. One must take care not to expend too much ammunition on a single target, so in order to avoid doing so, they must aim for the critical components of the enemy bomber (wings, engines or tail) if they can't force a head-on.

Lastly, the T18B can be used as a reasonably effective ground attacker thanks to its immense loadout options. It is not recommended to use the bomb loadouts that mount the extra m/42 bombs when employing this play style unless they are skilled with aiming their bombs, as the m/42 bombs have a very small explosion radius and have to be directly on target to nab a kill. Your ideal loadouts should be either the 3 x m/40 bombs, 3 x m/40 + 8 x m/49A rockets, or 2 x m/50 bombs + 8 x m/49A rockets for some overkill, as the m/50 bombs have a very high effective destruction radius of 18 meters, although the pilot should take care that they don't end up exploding themselves (also known as a "significant emotional event"). Using a time fuse for the m/50 bombs is a must, unless the pilot is going on a high altitude bombing mission instead of low altitude CAS. 2-4 seconds for the m/50 should suffice.

Manual Engine Control

MEC elements
Mixer	Pitch	Radiator			Supercharger	Turbocharger
Mixer	Pitch	Oil	Water	Type	Supercharger	Turbocharger
Not controllable	Controllable Auto control available	Controllable Auto control available	Controllable Auto control available	Separate	Not controllable 1 gear	Not controllable

Pros and cons

Pros:

Reasonably effective armament layout
Excellent speed, faster than a good amount of fighters at the tier
Good manoeuvrability for a twin-engine aircraft, especially for a bomber
Highly effective air brakes make landing and rearmament much easier
Can operate as a twin-engine fighter, high altitude bomber or strike fighter (depends on chosen payload)
Can mount rockets with up to 500 mm of penetration
Has access to two of the massive Swedish m/50 bombs
Has access to a torpedo
Despite only having one MG for defence, the MG itself is excellent
Airbrakes

Cons:

Poor protective components compared to other strike fighters
Only one turret
Fairly unstable on landing
No ventral turret, defenceless when attacked from below
Torpedo has very poor drop speed, and you need to slow down a great amount to drop it

History

In 1941 Flygvapnet wanted a new modern torpedobomber that would be able to drop aerial torpedo. SAAB recommended the Saab 18 as the frame to be the base of the new torpedobomber, B 18A was first option considered due to it being slower so it would be able to drop the Torpedo's that the Swedish nation had. But B 18A's bomber bay was deemed too small for a Torpedo to fit in there. Plans to have the torpedo external on the frame of the plane, But at the completion of the design were finished they found out that it wouldn't work to have a torpedo external fitted.

so it was decided to use the B 18B which had a slightly longer frame and was planned to have a new designed bomb bay where they could fit in a Torpedo. T 18B didn't prove successful as a Torpedobomber, it was trialed with a 53cm Torpedo which most likely called Torped fm/45 but had to be loaded at a 4,5⁰ degree forward in the bomber bay. During trials of the torpedo it was shown that it could only make a successful drop from 15m in the air which was not sufficent enough for Flygvapnet.

T 18B along with the new bomb bay got also a different more aerodynamic nose but also lost one of the defensive gunners below. Other trials went with the T 18B with a 57mm.

Media

Images

Media

Jengar's review of T 18B

Skins

Skins and camouflages for the T18B from live.warthunder.com.

External links

"Svensk Militär Flygplanshistorik - Fpl 18-historik" (2020-10-08) -https://svfplhist.home.blog/fpl-18-historik/

*Swedish Aeroplane Company Ltd. (SAAB)*
	Pre-SAAB: SA / ASJA
SA 'Jaktfalken'	J6B
SAAB 17	B17A · B17B · S17BS
SAAB 18	B18A · B18B · T18B · T18B (57)
SAAB 21	J21A-1 · J21A-2 · A21A-3 · J21RA · A21RB
SAAB 29 'Tunnan'	J29A · A29B · J29D · J29F
SAAB 32 'Lansen'	J32B · A32A · A32A Röd Adam
SAAB 35 'Draken'	J35A · J35D
SAAB 37 'Viggen'	JA37C · JA37D · AJ37 · AJS37
SAAB 39 'Gripen'	JAS39A · JAS39C
SAAB 105	SK60B · SAAB-105G
License Production	B3C ^{(Ju 86K)}
Export	SAAB-105OE · J35XS · ▄JAS39C · ◔JAS39EBS HU C

Sweden bombers
B3	B3C
B17	B17A · B17B · S17BS
SAAB 18	B18A · B18B · T18B · T18B (57)
T 2	T 2
Finland	▄Ar 196 A-5 · ▄Ju 88 A-4

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-| link = SAAB 18 (Family)
+| link = B18 (Family)
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 <!-- ''Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.'' -->
-The T18B-1 is an exceptionally fast aircraft at its rank, zooming past its contemporary bombers and reaching into fighter territory, able to reach an excellent 595 km/h (370 mph) in RB and a staggering 619 km/h (385 mph) in AB. Its high speed and reasonable armament platform of 2 x 20 mm cannons + 1 x 13.2 mm machine gun allows it to be a respectable multi-role aircraft that can take on almost any combat situation you throw at it. One might think that the high performance comes at the cost of payload, as would be traditional with the ''Schnellbomber'' type of bomber, but this is not the case with the T18B, as it carries more than enough ordnance to either heavily damage a base (AB) or destroy a few (RB).
+The T18B-1 is an exceptionally fast aircraft at its rank, zooming past its contemporary bombers and reaching into fighter territory, able to reach an excellent 595 km/h (370 mph) in RB and a staggering 619 km/h (385 mph) in AB. Its high speed and reasonable armament platform of 2 x 20 mm cannons + 1 x 13.2 mm machine gun allows it to be a respectable multi-role aircraft that can take on almost any combat situation you throw at it. One might think that the high performance comes at the cost of payload, as traditional with the ''Schnellbomber'' type of bomber, But this is not the case with the T18B, as it carries more than enough ordnance to either heavily damage a base (AB) or destroy a few (RB).
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 <!-- ''Describe the aircraft's suspended armament: additional cannons under the wings, bombs, rockets and torpedoes. This section is especially important for bombers and attackers. If there is no suspended weaponry remove this subsection.'' -->
+{{main|sb m/42 (50 kg)|mb m/40 (250 kg)|mb m/41 (500 kg)|mb m/50 (600 kg)}}
+{{main|psrak m/49A|srak m/51|m/38 (450 mm)}}
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-! [[sb m/42 (50 kg)|50 kg sb m/42]] bombs
-| || 4 || 10 || 4 ||
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-! [[mb m/40 (250 kg)|250 kg mb m/40]] bombs
-| || || 3 || ||
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-! [[mb m/41 (500 kg)|500 kg mb m/41]] bombs
-| || || 2 || ||
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-! [[mb m/50 (600 kg)|600 kg mb m/50]] bombs
-| || || 2 || ||
-|-
-! [[psrak m/49B]] rockets
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-! [[srak m/51]] rockets
-| 4 || || || || 4
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-! [[m/38 (450 mm)|450 mm m/38]] torpedoes
-| || || 1 || ||
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-| colspan="6" | Maximum permissible loadout weight: 1,620 kg<br>Maximum permissible weight imbalance: 450 kg
-|-
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-{{Navigation-Start|Default weapon presets}}
-{{Navigation-First-Simple-Line}}
 * 18 x 50 kg sb m/42 bombs (900 kg total)
 * 3 x 250 kg mb m/40 bombs (750 kg total)
+* 3 x 250 kg mb m/40 bombs + 8 x 50 kg sb m/42 bombs (1,150 kg total)
+* 1 x 450 mm m/38 torpedo
 * 2 x 500 kg mb m/41 bombs (1,000 kg total)
+* 2 x 500 kg mb m/41 bombs + 8 x 50 kg sb m/42 bombs (1,400 kg total)
 * 2 x 600 kg mb m/50 bombs (1,200 kg total)
-* 8 x psrak m/49B rockets
+* 2 x 600 kg mb m/50 bombs + 8 x 50 kg sb m/42 bombs (1,600 kg total)
+* 8 x psrak m/49A rockets
 * 8 x srak m/51 rockets
-* 1 x 450 mm m/38 torpedo
+* 10 x 50 kg sb m/42 bombs + 8 x psrak m/49A rockets (500 kg total)
-{{Navigation-End}}
+* 10 x 50 kg sb m/42 bombs + 8 x srak m/51 rockets (500 kg total)
+* 3 x 250 kg mb m/40 bombs + 8 x psrak m/49A rockets (750 kg total)
+* 8 x srak m/51 rockets + 1 x 450 mm m/38 torpedo
+* 3 x 250 kg mb m/40 bombs + 8 x srak m/51 rockets (750 kg total)
+* 8 x psrak m/49A rockets + 1 x 450 mm m/38 torpedo
+* 2 x 500 kg mb m/41 bombs + 8 x psrak m/49A rockets (1,000 kg total)
+* 2 x 500 kg mb m/41 bombs + 8 x srak m/51 rockets (1,000 kg total)
+* 2 x 600 kg mb m/50 bombs + 8 x psrak m/49A rockets (1,200 kg total)
+* 2 x 600 kg mb m/50 bombs + 8 x srak m/51 rockets (1,200 kg total)
 === Defensive armament ===
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 * 1 x 13.2 mm Akan m/39 machine gun, dorsal turret (300 rpg)
-Compared to the other Saab 18 models, the T18B has one less defensive 13.2 mm Akan m/39, leaving its belly open for enemy fighters to attack from below if left unattended. The single 13.2 mm can still prove lethal to planes at the BR, if a enemy is straight behind the 13.2 mm can do quite some damage to their engine and knock out pilots.
+Compared to the other Saab 18 models the T18B have one less defensive 13.2mm Akan m/39, leaving its belly open for enemy fighters to attack from below if left unattended. A single 13.2mm can still prove lethal to planes at the BR it is at, if a enemy is straight behind the 13.2mm can do quite the damage to the enemy engine and knocking out pilots.
 == Usage in battles ==
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 * Has access to a torpedo
 * Despite only having one MG for defence, the MG itself is excellent
+* Airbrakes
 '''Cons:'''
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 == History ==
-<!-- ''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the aircraft in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).'' -->
+<!--''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the aircraft in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).''-->
-In 1941, Flygvapnet wanted a new modern torpedo bomber that would be able to drop aerial torpedoes. SAAB recommended the Saab 18 as the frame to be the base of the new torpedo bomber. The B 18A was first option considered due to it being slower so it would be able to drop the Swedish torpedoes, but the bomb bay was deemed too small to fit a torpedo. Plans were laid to have the torpedo external on the frame of the aircraft, but this was scrapped on completion of the design.
-It was decided to use the B 18B which had a slightly longer frame and was planned to have a new designed bomb bay where they could fit in a torpedo. The resulting T 18B didn't prove successful as a torpedo bomber, it was trialled with a 53 cm torpedo which was most likely called Torpedo fm/45 but had to be loaded at a 4.5⁰ angle forward in the bomber bay. During trials of the torpedo it was shown that it could only make a successful drop from 15 m in the air which was not sufficient enough for Flygvapnet.
+In 1941 Flygvapnet wanted a new modern torpedobomber that would be able to drop aerial torpedo. SAAB recommended the Saab 18 as the frame to be the base of the new torpedobomber, B 18A was first option considered due to it being slower so it would be able to drop the Torpedo's that the Swedish nation had. But B 18A's bomber bay was deemed too small for a Torpedo to fit in there. Plans to have the torpedo external on the frame of the plane, But at the completion of the design were finished they found out that it wouldn't work to have a torpedo external fitted.
-T 18B along with the new bomb bay got also a different more aerodynamic nose but also lost one of the defensive gunners below. Other trials went with the T 18B with a 57 mm.
+so it was decided to use the B 18B which had a slightly longer frame and was planned to have a new designed bomb bay where they could fit in a Torpedo. T 18B didn't prove successful as a Torpedobomber, it was trialed with a 53cm Torpedo which most likely called Torped fm/45 but had to be loaded at a 4,5⁰ degree forward in the bomber bay. During trials of the torpedo it was shown that it could only make a successful drop from 15m in the air which was not sufficent enough for Flygvapnet.
+T 18B along with the new bomb bay got also a different more aerodynamic nose but also lost one of the defensive gunners below.
+Other trials went with the T 18B with a 57mm.
 == Media ==
 <!-- ''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.'' -->
-;Skins
-* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=saab_t18b_1 Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
 ;Images
-<gallery mode="packed-hover" heights="200">
+<gallery mode="packed-hover" heights="200px">
 File:T 18B Hangar.jpeg
 </gallery>
-;Videos
+;Media
-{{Youtube-gallery|i361VTW05P8|'''FEAR this PLANE! T18B-1''' - ''Jengar''}}
+{{Youtube-gallery|i361VTW05P8| Jengar's review of T 18B}}
+;Skins
+* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=saab_t18b_1 Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
 == See also ==
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 * ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.'' -->
-;Related development
+* [[Do 217 (Family)]]: Similarly designed German ''Schnellbomber''
-* [[SAAB 18 (Family)]]
+* [[Tu-2 (Family)]]: Soviet equivalent
+* [[PV-2D]]: Similar American bomber
-;Aircraft of similar configuration and role
+;Similar Frame:
-* [[PV-2D]]
+* [[B18A]]
-* [[Do 217 E-2]]
+* [[B18B]]
-* [[Tu-2]]
+* [[T18B (57)]]
 == External links ==
@@ Line 254: / Line 234: @@
 * ''other literature.''-->
-* "FPL 18 – Historik." 2020. Svensk Militär Flygplanshistorik. October 7, 2020. https://svfplhist.home.blog/fpl-18-historik/.
+'''"Svensk Militär Flygplanshistorik - Fpl 18-historik"''' (2020-10-08) -https://svfplhist.home.blog/fpl-18-historik/
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Difference between revisions of "T18B"

Revision as of 21:27, 31 January 2022

Contents

Description

General info

Flight performance

Details

Survivability and armour

Modifications and economy

Armaments

Offensive armament

Suspended armament

Defensive armament

Usage in battles

Manual Engine Control

Pros and cons

History

Media

See also

External links