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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a Rank {{Specs|rank}} Japanese tank destroyers {{Battle-rating|1}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.67 "Assault"]].
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Japanese tank destroyers {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.67 "Assault"]].
  
This is the lowest BR non-premium vehicle to have ATGM in the game, closest second being [[BMP-1]], though Japanese have to grind through entire rank 4 on 6.3-7.0 BR to get access to it first.
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This is the lowest battle rated non-premium vehicle to have ATGM in the game, the closest second being [[BMP-1]], though Japanese have to grind through entire rank 4 on 6.3-7.0 battle rating to access it. The {{PAGENAME}} also functions as a "light tank" being able to fulfil the scout role and team repair functions, just like [[Type 60 SPRG (C)]].
  
 
== General info ==
 
== General info ==
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While armour of Type 60 hull can handle some direct MG fire, and maybe even unfocused 12.7 mm, it's roof armour is nonexistent. Every fighter in the game will try and succeed to strafe Type 60 ATM, and there is no saving from them.
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While armour of Type 60 hull can handle some direct MG fire, and maybe even unfocused 12.7 mm, it's roof armour is nonexistent. Every fighter in the game will try and succeed to strafe Type 60 ATM, and there is no saving from them.  
  
Hull is just exactly low enough to use every other hulldown position, that any normal tank would fail to use. As example, one can use solid concrete roadblocks, building leftovers, solid construction details, random medium sized rocks, destroyed gas cisterns, destroyed tank hulls and so on as cover. The only thing exposed will be the launchers.  
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Armour of the Type 60 is too weak to sustain shockwaves from tanks exploding next to it. It is advisable to avoid close proximity to other tanks when possible to limit exposure from explosion shockwaves.
  
Launchers themselves seem to be irrelevant to the tank, and though they can be "broken" they seem to be able to fire even when they are completely destroyed. Loaded ATGM also seem to be resistant to attempts of setting them off (As tested in AB). It is worth noting that Soviets can still load HE shells and just explode entire tank by hitting the launcher, but not every one of them even carries these shells.
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Hull is just exactly low enough to use every other hull-down position, that any normal tank would fail to use. As an example, one can use solid concrete roadblocks, building leftovers, solid construction details, random sized rocks, destroyed gas cisterns, destroyed tank hulls and so on as a protective cover. Here, only the launchers will be exposed. In some spots, the 12.7 mm machine gun will also be exposed.
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Being hit to the hull is strictly forbidden, as compartment is not made with damage control in mind. In AB it can sustain a hit to the upper part of the hull, but once type 60 is pinned, it goes down very easily, especially if fighter is going kamikaze on it.
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Launchers themselves seem to be irrelevant to the tank, and though they can be "broken" they seem to be able to fire even when they are completely destroyed. Loaded ATGM also seems to be resistant to attempts of setting them off (as tested in AB).
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It is worth noting that Soviets can still load HE shells and just explode an entire tank by hitting the launcher, but not every one of them carries these shells. Some high calibre HESH shells are also able to send spall down from the launcher into the Type 60 on a good hit. A direct 105 mm HE or HESH hit to machine gun can cause hull-break.
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Being hit to the hull is strictly forbidden, as the compartment is not made with damage control in mind. Even if you somehow survive a hit, the vehicle's hull has hull break mechanics and any heavy SPG or tank with 120 mm calibre gun can instantly destroy the tank, as well as artillery and chemical rounds of 105 mm calibre. Enemy attack planes diving down and blasting away with their autocannons and rockets can also penetrate the Type 60 frontally, so be wary of enemy aerial support. In AB, it can sustain a hit to the upper part of the hull, but once the Type 60 is penetrated, it goes down very easily regardless.
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If hull must be exposed due to poor cover, only expose left side, as it has less critical crew members and engine in the middle of the tank increases likelihood of back crew surviving and replacing the tank commander afterwards.
  
 
'''Armour type:'''
 
'''Armour type:'''
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* Rolled homogeneous armour
 
* Rolled homogeneous armour
 
* Cast homogeneous armour (Machine gun port, Cupola)
 
* Cast homogeneous armour (Machine gun port, Cupola)
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'''Notes:'''
 
'''Notes:'''
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* Suspension wheels and tracks are both 15 mm thick, while torsion bar chassis is 12 mm thick.
 
* Suspension wheels and tracks are both 15 mm thick, while torsion bar chassis is 12 mm thick.
 
* Belly armour is 10 mm thick.
 
* Belly armour is 10 mm thick.
  
 
=== Mobility ===
 
=== Mobility ===
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{{tankMobility|abMinHp= 312|rbMinHp= 195}}
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The {{PAGENAME}} can only move about as fast as an average medium tank. Acceleration is above average, especially when mobility upgrades are researched, but racing against enemy tanks is only recommended if any other option means certain doom.
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The issue is the turning ability, as it is slow. It will be problematic to turn around in the middle of a warzone, so a decent hull-down or hiding position is almost always required for comfortable sniping, due to a very limited optics vision arc. It is still possible to turn around even when hiding behind medium tank hull remains, but there will be a high risk of getting sniped, if not extra careful.
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Getting stuck on rocks is very bad for this tank, similar to [[Type 60 SPRG (C)]], so if trying to take over mountain position, make sure there is nothing below you, in case if tank will slide off it.
|rowspan="2" | 12.0 || colspan="1" rowspan="2" | N/A || colspan="1" | 42 (AB)
 
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|''Arcade''
 
|26.00
 
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|16.25
 
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== Armaments ==
 
== Armaments ==
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Vehicle uses 2 type 64 ATGMs at once, with 4 reserve being stored in the hull. They can be launched in about 30 degree arc in front of the hull.
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The vehicle has two Type 64 ATGMs loaded at once, with four reserves being stored in the hull. These AGTMs can be launched from about a 30-degree arc in front of the hull. Only one missile can be controlled at a time.
  
You have the main camera leading indicator, which directs initial launch and guides missiles in AB, and you have 2 separate targeting indicators for each launcher, which show the reload times and try to show how far missiles will fly initially in CQC, though they're extremely inaccurate and should only be used for range estimation and to see if missile can be launched at all.
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You have the main camera leading indicator, which directs initial launch and guides missiles in arcade battles, and you have two separate targeting indicators for each launcher, which show the reload times and try to show how far missiles will fly initially in Close Quarters Combat (CQC), though they're extremely inaccurate and should only be used for range estimation and to see if the missile can be launched at all.
  
Sniper optics are only directed forward, so if you want to look at something far away while you guide missile, you have to first turn your entire hull towards them.
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Sniper optics are only directed forward, so if you want to look at something in the distance while you guide the missile, you have to first turn your entire hull towards them.
  
Type 64 missiles are on the same trigger, vehicle always fires the right missile first if it can. The only way to fire left missile first is in CQC, by turning your main aiming reticle to the left just enough for right launcher reticle to go offline, but not in the dead zone of left launcher yet. The left-to-right shot, however convenient, is impossible to make if right launcher is loaded. This makes CQC firing training extremely complex and unforgiving.
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Type 64 missiles are on the same trigger, the vehicle always attempts to fire the right missile first. The only way to fire left missile first is in CQC by turning your main aiming reticle to the left just enough for right launcher reticle to go offline, but not in the dead zone of left launcher yet. The left-to-right shot, however convenient, is impossible to make if the right launcher is loaded. This makes CQC firing training extremely complex and unforgiving.
  
Missiles have about 500 mm of penetration at flat angle, which is enough to penetrate anything at BR of 6 to 8. While it's penetration is nothing to be amazed of, it has 4.5 kilograms of explosive mass, which compensates for it's low "health" and allows it to do fatal damage even with 30 mm left. It's technically possible to even destroy [[T-64B]] with a good hit. Like with any HEAT based projectile, fuel tanks can stop it, if they are huge enough.
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Missiles have about 500 mm of penetration at flat angle, which is enough to penetrate anything at a battle rating of 6 to 8. While it's penetration is nothing to be amazed of, it has 4.5 kilograms of explosive mass, which compensates for its low projectile "health" and allows it to do fatal damage even with 30 mm penetration left. It's technically possible to even destroy [[T-64B]] with a good hit. Like with any HEAT based projectile, fuel tanks can stop it, if they are huge enough, and engines and radiators also can prevent hull break.
  
The missiles act very differently in either game mode, and so vehicle cannot be treated same in AB as in RB, which further increases training difficulty.
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The missiles act very differently in either game mode, and so the vehicle cannot be treated same in AB as in RB, which further increases training difficulty.
  
 
Due to extremely limited firing arc, if one wants to forcefully launch missile behind enemy cover it is recommended to stand with hull towards the enemy behind cover and use left launcher to fire right (L-R) or right launcher to fire left (R-L), but since L-R shot is by default overridden by R-R shot, it is also recommended to practice it a lot, or to not attack enemy from the left, if possible. As for vertical attacks, it depends on game mode a lot.
 
Due to extremely limited firing arc, if one wants to forcefully launch missile behind enemy cover it is recommended to stand with hull towards the enemy behind cover and use left launcher to fire right (L-R) or right launcher to fire left (R-L), but since L-R shot is by default overridden by R-R shot, it is also recommended to practice it a lot, or to not attack enemy from the left, if possible. As for vertical attacks, it depends on game mode a lot.
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It is also rather easy to just sidestep the missile, which most of BR ~8.0 light tanks will do, unless they do not notice ATGM somehow, or are too busy fighting something else.
 
It is also rather easy to just sidestep the missile, which most of BR ~8.0 light tanks will do, unless they do not notice ATGM somehow, or are too busy fighting something else.
  
'''In RB''', Missile has about 40km/h initial speed and missile wont respond to your commands until it flies at least 50-80 meters, and should be treated as a rocket until that point. Even past this point, missile is rather slow on taking commands with about of 0.8 sec delay and prefers to keep it's initial vertical course, so it's better to launch it properly to begin with. Ironically, lower speed allows it to be launched onto tanks which are almost ramming Type 60, with dead zone being just 6 meters, if operator aims at the ground below the vehicle. Basically, this means it can oneshot T64 or tanks with even lower profile, like IT-1, while being at a gunpoint. On '''flat ground''', to hit targets at ~50 meters one should aim about 1/3 the range between tanks. To hit targets at ~80 meters one should aim 1/2 the range between tanks, as ATGM accelerates by that point.
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'''In realistic battle''', the missile has about 40 km/h initial speed and missile won't respond to your commands until it flies at least 50-80 meters away, and should be treated as a rocket until that point. Even past this point, the missile is rather slow on taking commands with about of 0.8-sec delay and prefers to keep its initial vertical course, so it's better to launch it properly, to begin with. To steer it around, the user must press buttons assigned for tank movements (the vertical controls are inverted with W being "down" and S being "up"). The longer the range, the easier it is to control the missile.
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Ironically, lower speed allows it to be launched onto tanks which are almost ramming Type 60, with the dead zone being just 6 meters, if operator aims at the ground below the vehicle. Basically, this means it can one-shot T64 or tanks with an even lower profile, like IT-1, while being at a gunpoint. On '''flat ground''', to hit targets at ~40 meters one should aim about 1/3 the range between tanks. To hit targets at ~80 meters one should aim 1/2 the range between tanks, as ATGM accelerates by that point.
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'''Examples of aiming at close range in RB:'''
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<gallery mode="packed-hover">
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File:Type 60 atm point blank shot RB.jpg|Dead zone shot for RB. Note how low all of targeting reticles are aimed. Remember, some tanks will explode so hard, they might destroy yours as well, so try to deal with them before this kind of attack becomes necessary.
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File:Type 60 ATM dead zone range RB.jpg|The exact minimal range for ATGM when fighting low-profile tanks.
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File:Type 60 atm melee left-left shot RB.jpg|This is the closest range shot you can pull off without using [[Media:CameraAdjustment_Settings_for_ATGM.jpg|camera manipulation]]. The range is about 30 m.
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File:Type 60 atm 50 m shot RB.jpg|50 m straight shot. Check how both main and launcher's targeting reticle is aimed.
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File:Type 60 atm 50m shot RB angling showcase.jpg|While it's possible to calculate exact missile deviation on side shots, it's easier to just use your 12 mm MG to guess angle and launcher's reticle to guess range.
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To hit targets in cover far away, the operator must be very good at judging distances, because input lag and missile attitude with it sometimes returning to the initial course makes dropping missiles hard down rather challenging. As for tanks which stand in open or with minimal cover, this brings no problems, as over distance you have plenty of time to correct course.
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'''In arcade battle''', Missile has full 89 km/h initial speed (also max speed) and responds to SACLOS manual input (mouse movements, not the targeting reticle itself) almost immediately (with real dead zone being unclear), so it can be somewhat curved around even during launch sequence, which allows the operator to push it even further behind houses. But due to its speed, the launch dead zone is extended to 11 m, so one cannot let enemy too close to themselves.
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At 30-120 m range, past initial launch dead zone, the operator should always aim about 1\2 toward the enemy tank and correct the course of missile manually by moving the mouse. Past that range, it's possible to use SACLOS system reliably, as long as the enemy tank isn't moving towards ATGM carrier, so you can just aim straight at the enemy.
  
To hit targets in cover far away, operator must be very good at judging distances, because input lag and missile attitude with it sometimes returning to initial course makes dropping missiles hard down rather challenging. As for tanks which stand in open or with minimal cover, this brings no problems, as over distance you have plenty of time to correct course.  
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'''Examples of aiming at close range in AB''':
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File:Type 60 atm dead zone range AB.jpg|Dead zone range for type 60 ATM in AB. Remember that you have to aim exactly at the bottom of your tank to make it work.
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File:Type 60 atm forward 50 m shot AB.jpg|You should remember that in AB guidance system activates earlier, and aim accordingly. Though, it's less of an issue, since missile obeys your commands almost immediately in AB.
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File:AB indirect melee range L-R shot setup.jpg|30 m indirect shot at T-64. Missiles in AB are obeying manual input from the get-go, but you still have to launch them carefully to not make them hit a wall, so even hull placement is important. It's also best to use the further launcher, if possible.
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File:AB indirect melee range L-R shot correction.jpg|Since in AB missile obeys manual input immediately, type 60 ATM operator drags missile to the right to avoid hitting T-64s fuel tank, and the result is tank annihilation. It is worth noting, that such shots require an immense amount of practice to reliably hit, though they are still less risky than going out of cover and trying to duke it out with other tanks directly.
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'''In AB''', Missile has full 89 km/h initial speed (also max speed) and responds to SACLOS manual input (mouse movements, not the targeting reticle itself) almost immediately (with real dead zone being unclear), so it can be somewhat curved around even during launch sequence, which allows operator to push it even further behind houses. But due to it's speed the launch dead zone is extended to 11 m, so one cannot let enemy too close to themselves. Past initial launch dead zone, operator should always aim about 1\2 toward enemy tank.
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Long range sniping isn't much different from RB, you just have to aim at the enemy with your mouse instead of manually curving missile. You also can move while guiding it, though it is still hard to do on a move, so you might want to rely on other ways of aiming.
  
Long range sniping isn't much different from RB, you just have to aim at enemy with your mouse instead of manually curving missile. It is still hard to do on a move, so you might want to rely on other ways of aiming.
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To attack an enemy on move you have to use aim assist, a sniper scope is locked to launcher's firing arc and vehicle lacks stabilizer, so your missile may go anywhere it wants to otherwise. Due to missile overall low speed (currently the lowest one in the game) and "aim assist" option (right mouse button) as long as the enemy is in tank's sights, one can treat the missile as a sort of dumb third-generation missile. The point is, missile is so slow, that tank is almost unable to hit the ground or a wall with it on accident, which means that you can even launch it forward and follow it, and if anyone dares to drive in the open near to you, you can just hold right mouse button to make missile destroy them on its own, while you focus on driving and dodging enemy shots. It's still best to not drive around recklessly and rely on a missile that much, as it is still '''very''' slow and it still requires you to see enemy tank (which means, they also can see you) and it will not avoid any obstacles on away, so you still have to correct it sometimes.  
  
To attack enemy on move you have to use aim assist, as sniper scope is locked to launcher's firing arc and vehicle lacks stabilizer, so your missile may go anywhere it wants to otherwise. Due to missile overall low speed (currently the lowest one in the game) and "aim assist" option (right mouse button) as long as enemy is in tank's sights, one can treat the missile as a sort of dumb third-generation missile. The point is, it is so slow, that it is almost unable to hit the ground or a wall on accident, which means that you can even launch it forward and follow it, and if anyone dares to drive in the open near to you, you can just hold right mouse button to make missile destroy them on it's own. It's still best to not drive around recklessly and rely on missile that much, as it still '''very''' slow and it still requires you to see enemy tank (which means, they also can see you) and it will not avoid any obstacles on a way, so you still have to correct it sometimes.  
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Overall, if one uses aim assist, you should keep in mind how it works - it always aims for the centre of the tank, and it lags behind the moving vehicle. To avoid hitting fuel tanks or missing moving tank, you can adjust it without breaking the tracking. After holding down the aim assist button, move your mouse a bit up, to let missile hit enemy just below the gun barrel, but high enough to not hit their tracks, and, if target moves to the left or right, move the mouse to the left or right to make missile track them properly. After that, wait for about 10 to 13 seconds for it to hit enemy, unless they realize what's coming for them and sidestep the missile, or to hit a random obstacle on a way towards them. Having maxed out "keen vision" and "improved optics" allows you to do this at any range indefinitely, as it's impossible to avoid being detected by you at missile's effective range.
  
Overall, if one uses aim assist, you should keep in mind how it works - it always aims for center of the tank, and it lags behind the moving vehicle. To avoid hitting fuel tanks or missing moving tank, you can adjust it without breaking the tracking. After holding down the aim assist button, move your mouse a bit up, to let missile hit enemy just below the gun barrel, but high enough to not hit their tracks, and, if target moves to the left or right, move mouse to the left or right to make missile track them properly. After that, wait for about 10 to 13 seconds for it to hit enemy, unless they realize what's coming for them and sidestep the missile, or to hit hit random tree on a way towards them. Having maxed out "keen vision" and "improved optics" allows you to do this at any range indefinitely, as it's impossible to avoid being detected by you at missile's effective range.
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'''Notes:'''
 
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* Flight characteristics heavily depend on the mode you play in.
 
* Flight characteristics heavily depend on the mode you play in.
 
* While stat card states the max range is 1,800 m, in reality, it is less due to the missile losing fuel making course corrections. The resulting effective range is closer to 1,600 m.
 
* While stat card states the max range is 1,800 m, in reality, it is less due to the missile losing fuel making course corrections. The resulting effective range is closer to 1,600 m.
* In AB, rearm takes about 40 seconds once launcher is empty and no partial rearm can be done on capture point. Rearm only happens for one launcher at once, which means full rearm will take you 80 seconds. Launcher still reloads during rearm, so you can fire away immediately, after it's done.
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* In AB, rearm takes about 40 seconds once the launcher is empty and no partial rearm can be done on the capture point. Rearm only happens for one launcher at once, which means full rearm will take you 80 seconds. Launcher still reloads during rearming, so you can fire away immediately after it's done.
  
 
===== [[Ammo racks|Ammo racks]] =====
 
===== [[Ammo racks|Ammo racks]] =====
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{{main|M2HB (12.7 mm)|M1919A4 (7.62 mm)}}
 
{{main|M2HB (12.7 mm)|M1919A4 (7.62 mm)}}
  
The Type 60 ATM comes equipped with a coaxial 12.7mm M2HB Browning machine gun and a smaller 7.62mm Browning machine gun.  
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The Type 60 ATM comes equipped with a coaxial 12.7 mm M2HB Browning machine gun and a smaller 7.62 mm Browning machine gun.  
  
The 7.62mm, while useless against conventional tanks, can sometimes come in handy for clearing some debris and can convince some BR 6.7 open top HEAT SPG to leave you alone. The 12.7mm machine gun serves similar purpouse, but it also can destroy some light tanks, though something like [[AMX-13]] will resist it's fire from the front.  
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The 7.62 mm, while useless against conventional tanks, can sometimes come in handy for clearing some debris and can convince some battle rating 6.7 open top HEAT SPG to leave you alone. The 12.7 mm machine gun serves a similar purpose, but it also can destroy some light tanks, though something like [[AMX-13]] will resist its fire from the front.  
  
Both of MGs are only able to fire at planes that try to strafe your vehicle directly, which is not very likely, so in case if attacker is present on the field, vehicle should just run behind some hills and hope the pilot isn't after it.
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Both types of MGs are only able to fire at planes that try to strafe the vehicle directly, which is not very likely, so in case if an attacker is present on the field, the vehicle should just hide behind some hills or trees and hope the pilot isn't after it.
  
 
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== Usage in the battles ==
 
== Usage in the battles ==
The Type 60 ATM struggles in close quarters and is unsuited for direct urban combat. When playing the Type 60 ATGM consider all your flanking routes and hulldown positions as your high damage potential can be most effectively harnessed in these environments. Avoid all major sight-lines, and pick your targets carefully. The cover is your best friend, finding positions, where you can scout enemy vehicles for your team, can often be more beneficial than attempting to destroy enemy tanks yourself.
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The Type 60 ATM struggles in close quarters and is unsuited for direct urban combat. When playing the Type 60 ATGM consider all your flanking routes and hull-down positions as your high damage potential can be most effectively harnessed in these environments. Avoid all major sight-lines, and pick your targets carefully. The cover is your best friend, finding positions, where you can scout enemy vehicles for your team, can often be more beneficial than attempting to destroy enemy tanks yourself.
  
To get most out of the tank, one should find hulldown position with a sight onto capture point, to scout everyone, who is open for allied snipers, and then pick off pinned down opponents, forcing them to choose between being destroyed by ATGM or your allies.
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To get most out of the tank, one should find a hull-down position with a sight onto capture point, to scout everyone, who is open for allied snipers, and then pick off pinned down opponents, forcing them to choose between being destroyed by ATGM or your allies.
  
As one example, on [[Alaska]] map Type 60 ATM can use concrete blocks and rubbish to the east of B point to become resistant to enemy fire, while being able to fire clean shots at both A and B points with little fear of being directly attacked back.  
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As one example, on [[Alaska]] map Type 60 ATM can use concrete blocks and rubbish to the east of B point to become resistant to enemy fire while being able to fire clean shots at both A and B points with little fear of being directly attacked back.  
  
The Type 60 ATM often plays out as a support vehicle instead of a tank destroyer, though in AB it can also do some moral damage, as it's presence alone forces enemy to change plans, as soon as they realize it can destroy them without even showing up on a field or doing elaborate artillery tricks, unlike [[Type 60 SPRG (C)]]. You shouldn't let this to get to your head, though, as you are most likely '''unable''' to stop massive coordinated push.
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The Type 60 ATM often plays out as a support vehicle instead of a tank destroyer, simply scouting enemy tanks and repairing damaged allies. Keep in mind, that enemy often likes to call artillery upon huge tank groups, and your tank can be destroyed on accident. It is safer to assist heavy hull-down tanks, as it's generally pointless to use artillery on them, and many may not even notice the Type 60 next to them. After you repaired the allied tank, immediately move away from them, as if they get destroyed, the shockwave will annihilate the Type 60 hull.
  
As example, experienced type 60 ATM user can entrench itself on river of [[Berlin (Ground Forces)|Berlin]] map, making people who see ATGM for the first time to lose any will to attack B point at all, and seriously stalling the rest, although this requires meticulous training in CQC launch techniques, as combat range there can quickly reach 20 meters, and ground isn't exactly even, often resulting in misses. Still, in AB the fear alone may stall enemy long enough for vehicle to rearm, and damage done to launcher is completely irrelevant in that mode.  
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In AB it can also do some moral damage, as its presence alone forces the enemy to change plans, as soon as they realize it can destroy them without even showing up on a field or doing elaborate artillery tricks, unlike [[Type 60 SPRG (C)]]. You shouldn't let this to get to your head, though, as you are most likely '''unable''' to stop massive coordinated push alone. Still, the fear alone may stall enemy long enough for a vehicle to rearm, and damage done to the launcher is completely irrelevant in arcade mode.  
  
The Type 60 ATM's biggest threats in battle are many. Avoid directly fighting all vehicles at all costs to prevent dying - almost every shell at your BR will destroy Type 60 with ease. The vehicle will often face enemy frontally when you fire missiles, and that's where the 3 of your crew are crammed together, 2 of which are the gunner and driver.  
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As example, experienced type 60 ATM user can entrench it on river of [[Berlin (Ground Forces)|Berlin]] map, making people who see ATGM for the first time to lose any will to attack B point at all, and seriously stalling the rest, although this requires meticulous training in close range launch techniques, as combat range there can quickly reach 20 meters, and ground isn't exactly even, often resulting in misses.
  
As soon as enemy tries to drop artillery on you, it's best to leave the position, as tank might explode in one hit. As such, always keep plan B in your head.
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Examples of urban combat in arcade mode (In realistic mode, only try this at your own discretion):
  
Try to use scouting to know the very moment your opponent drives out to attack your tank and try to blast them away with ATGM. If direct confrontation with light tank is inevitable - fire 12.7 MG at it's sides as well and hope it penetrates them.
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Normandy AB Type 60 ATM hulldown.jpg|Type 60 can hull down in some open spot, where friendly snipers can assist it, and antagonize enemy assault group. Make sure, that the hulldown spot is at least 150-200m away from the enemy entry point, and enemy still can see the launchers. On contact, demonstrate them your firepower by one-shotting one of them, then stall them by fact that you have two launchers. Destroy ones, who actually saw through your ruse and rush towards you.
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Normandy AB Type 60 ATM last stand.jpg|If enemy got too close and snipers failed to stop them, or launchers are out of ammo and are rearming, call in a bomber to spend rearm time and to finish the enemy off. Sometimes, you might need to even bomb yourself, but with the perfect mind game, your opponents will be too afraid to leave the cover, being unsure of your missile count. With enough luck, you will take out all of them.
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Type 60 ATM american desert AB improvised hulldown.jpg|On maps with destructible enviroment you can destroy a part of a house to create a firing position for yourself. Your launcher fires upwards, allowing you to attack enemy with no fear of retaliation - only very few 8.0 tanks have APDSFS which can shoot through such cover. Remember - only house remains count as a good enough cover, the house itself does not.
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In one-on-one situations, it is often better to fire only one launcher at the enemy, unless they try to push you, just to keep enemy guessing if it's even worth attacking you, instead of firing both missiles at once or doing nothing and letting them know, that you are harmless now. In arcade mode, while your launcher rearms, you can also join allied bombers as secondary attacker or bomber as a scout, to spend points earned by scouting and to cut off enemy reinforcement.
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The Type 60 ATM's biggest threats in battle are many. Avoid directly fighting all vehicles at all costs to prevent being destroyed - almost every shell at your battle rating will destroy Type 60 with ease. The vehicle will often face enemy frontally when you fire missiles, and that's where the three out of five of your crew are crammed together, two of which are the gunner and driver.
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As soon as the enemy tries to drop artillery on you, it's best to leave the position and move to a safer place. As such, always keep plan B in your head.
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Try to use scouting to know the very moment your opponent drives out to attack your tank and try to blast them away with ATGM. If the direct confrontation with a light tank is inevitable - fire 12.7 MG at its sides as well and hope it penetrates them.
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=== Counter-tactics ===
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The biggest threat from this tank comes in form of its abilities to hide behind almost anything, retaliate despite heavy ammo rack damage and to fire over cover. In realistic battles, and even in arcade battles, if a player pays no attention, their tank can be suddenly hit by a gigantic HEAT bomb with the Type 60 as its sender. Being aware of its presence is the key to avoiding this.
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For example, the Type 60's ATGM is very loud, so unless it was fired from 1.5 km away (almost maximum range for this tank), the sound of the missile launch will likely be audible. '''Do not ignore them''' and remember where it came from.
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The only comfortable way to destroy hull-down Type 60 ATM relies on using 105 mm HE and HESH. HEAT is not effective against it, so carry at least 2 of those in the battle. Whenever a Type 60 ATM is spotted standing behind low cover, try to not focus on its launchers and instead try to spot machine gun shield on its right (left for an opposing player) and fire explosives at the shield itself. It is very likely that HE shock-wave will hit poor roof armour and either annihilate tank crew or break the hull entirely. In the case of HESH, hitting the machine gun shield and part of the roof will transform into shrapnel and tear the tank apart - this generally doesn't happen if the launchers are hit. If the attack only took out the crew in the front, repeat the attack after the back crew moved forward to replace driver and commander (gunner). If only the launchers are visible, generally only HE can destroy the opponent easily.
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120 mm kinetic shell can cause hull break, but only if it hits the hull itself.
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Do note, that Type 60 ATM has '''two''' missiles at once and is rarely truly alone due to "scouting" ability. Scouting also allows it to track tanks, even behind smoke screens and walls, for better missile accuracy.
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Type 60 ATM has a rather long reload sequence and only 3 missiles for each rack. The ammo pool is not shared between them and it is clearly visible which rack is currently loaded, so a quick blitz during reload or rearm can put an end to it. To avoid being suddenly crushed by fatal "roof shot", do not ram the tank frontally, or at least push it around without stopping. Do note that while the exposed MG is a weakness of Type 60 ATM, it is still of 12.7 mm caliber and it can shred some light tanks and SPG at close range before they can even get a direct shot. If the rushing tanks have less than 29 mm of effective armour, they shouldn't approach Type 60 ATM directly.
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If missiles were already launched, there are a few ways to protect the tank:
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:'''A)''' Attack active missiles with machine guns. Attacking dormant missile in the rack with machine gun is less effective (In Arcade Mode it does nothing at all). If laying down suppressive fire - the Type 60's right missile rack (left if facing the Type 60) almost always fires first.
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:As soon as missile fires off, try to fire in front of the missile path, as bullets ''do not teleport'' and may overshoot it. If missile is hit a few times it explodes.
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:Missile interception is often hard to do, if missile is guided at an angle and doesn't just fly straight towards the tank. It is generally useful for heavy tanks, which can't outrun it anyway, and medium tanks with high fire rate machine guns.
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:'''B)''' Sidestep the missile, as it is very slow, and in RB it even has input lag. To quickly change direction, the player's tank have to be mobile or at least to have great acceleration. Thus this option is more suitable for light tanks and light tank destroyers. Do note that if the Type 60 ATM operator is set on destroying a tank, they will try very hard to steer missile into a moving target, so only stop after the missile passed the vehicle's position entirely.
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:'''C)''' Sacrifice cannon barrel or pull the fuel tanks and engine forward to block missile. This will greatly reduce overall damage taken by tank and likely prevent the loss of entire crew in single hit. If lightly armoured tank takes ATGM hit into radiators, fuel tank or engine, they also likely won't "hull break".
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===Modules===
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{| class="wikitable"
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!Tier
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! colspan="2" |Mobility
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!Protection
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! colspan="3" |Firepower
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|-
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|Tracks||
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|Parts
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|-
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|II
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|Suspension||Brake System
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|FPE
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|Airstrike
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|-
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|III
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|Filters||
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|Crew Replenishment
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|-
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|IV
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|Transmission||Engine
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|Improved optics
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|-
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|}
 
=== Pros and cons ===
 
=== Pros and cons ===
 
'''Pros:'''
 
'''Pros:'''
* Good missile maneuverability
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* Type 64 ATGM's provide exceptional firepower
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* Good missile manoeuvrability - closely resembles superior [[BAe Swingfire]], even though in RB it has control issues
* Upwards facing launchers can allow vehicle to fire behind cover, although a setup is often required
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* Type 64 ATGM's provide exceptional firepower compared to HEAT, due to increased payload and heavily reduced angle of impact
* Has scouting
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* Upwards facing launchers can allow the vehicle to fire at enemy behind cover, although the setup is often required
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* Has scouting and can repair any allied tank as a support vehicle
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* Spaded version can reach maximum speed almost instantly in some cases, can compete with average medium tanks in terms of forward speed and hill climbing
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'''Cons:'''
 
'''Cons:'''
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* Very limited main ammunition (even more so than [[Type 60 SPRG (C)|SPRG]] version)
 
* Very limited main ammunition (even more so than [[Type 60 SPRG (C)|SPRG]] version)
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* Cannot be partially rearmed on capture point in AB, forcing it to completely empty the ammunition
 
* Slow missile speed, to a point it can be sidestepped by many tanks
 
* Slow missile speed, to a point it can be sidestepped by many tanks
* Need a visual target for accurate hit, otherwise it heavily relies on operator skill to hit anything at all
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* Need a visual target for an accurate hit, otherwise it heavily relies on operator skill to hit anything at all
* Cannot be partially rearmed on capture point in AB, forcing it to completely empty the ammunition
 
 
* Can't move while the missile flies to the target in RB
 
* Can't move while the missile flies to the target in RB
 
* Missiles have input lag in RB, which makes them unreliable at times  
 
* Missiles have input lag in RB, which makes them unreliable at times  
* Need a certain range for effective hit (maximum 1600 m for long range, at least 10 m at close range, at least 100 m for guidance system to start in RB)
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* Need a certain range for effective hit (maximum 1600 m for long range, at least 10 m at close range, at least 100 m for a guidance system to start in RB)
 
* Very long reload after each missile is fired
 
* Very long reload after each missile is fired
 
* Highly visible, very distinct profile, with the sore Japanese green camouflage and obvious launchers
 
* Highly visible, very distinct profile, with the sore Japanese green camouflage and obvious launchers
 
* Little to no armour, most shells immediately destroy this vehicle
 
* Little to no armour, most shells immediately destroy this vehicle
* Limited maximum speed to 38 kph along with mediocre mobility
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* Limited turning ability, which sometimes forces it to expose itself
  
 
== History ==
 
== History ==
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== Read also ==
 
== Read also ==
 
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* [http://warthunder.com/en/news/4585-development-type-60-atm-death-on-a-wire-en/ [Devblog<nowiki>]</nowiki> Type 60 ATM: Death on a Wire]
 
* [http://warthunder.com/en/news/4585-development-type-60-atm-death-on-a-wire-en/ [Devblog<nowiki>]</nowiki> Type 60 ATM: Death on a Wire]
 
  
 
== Sources ==
 
== Sources ==

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Description

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The Type 60 ATM is a rank IV Japanese tank destroyers with a battle rating of 6.7 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced in Update 1.67 "Assault".

This is the lowest battle rated non-premium vehicle to have ATGM in the game, the closest second being BMP-1, though Japanese have to grind through entire rank 4 on 6.3-7.0 battle rating to access it. The Type 60 ATM also functions as a "light tank" being able to fulfil the scout role and team repair functions, just like Type 60 SPRG (C).

General info

Survivability and armour

While armour of Type 60 hull can handle some direct MG fire, and maybe even unfocused 12.7 mm, it's roof armour is nonexistent. Every fighter in the game will try and succeed to strafe Type 60 ATM, and there is no saving from them.

Armour of the Type 60 is too weak to sustain shockwaves from tanks exploding next to it. It is advisable to avoid close proximity to other tanks when possible to limit exposure from explosion shockwaves.

Hull is just exactly low enough to use every other hull-down position, that any normal tank would fail to use. As an example, one can use solid concrete roadblocks, building leftovers, solid construction details, random sized rocks, destroyed gas cisterns, destroyed tank hulls and so on as a protective cover. Here, only the launchers will be exposed. In some spots, the 12.7 mm machine gun will also be exposed.

Launchers themselves seem to be irrelevant to the tank, and though they can be "broken" they seem to be able to fire even when they are completely destroyed. Loaded ATGM also seems to be resistant to attempts of setting them off (as tested in AB).

It is worth noting that Soviets can still load HE shells and just explode an entire tank by hitting the launcher, but not every one of them carries these shells. Some high calibre HESH shells are also able to send spall down from the launcher into the Type 60 on a good hit. A direct 105 mm HE or HESH hit to machine gun can cause hull-break.

Being hit to the hull is strictly forbidden, as the compartment is not made with damage control in mind. Even if you somehow survive a hit, the vehicle's hull has hull break mechanics and any heavy SPG or tank with 120 mm calibre gun can instantly destroy the tank, as well as artillery and chemical rounds of 105 mm calibre. Enemy attack planes diving down and blasting away with their autocannons and rockets can also penetrate the Type 60 frontally, so be wary of enemy aerial support. In AB, it can sustain a hit to the upper part of the hull, but once the Type 60 is penetrated, it goes down very easily regardless.

If hull must be exposed due to poor cover, only expose left side, as it has less critical crew members and engine in the middle of the tank increases likelihood of back crew surviving and replacing the tank commander afterwards.

Armour type:

  • Rolled homogeneous armour
  • Cast homogeneous armour (Machine gun port, Cupola)
Armour Front (Slope angle) Sides Rear Roof
Hull 20 mm (35-43°) Front glacis
20 mm (30°) Lower glacis
20 mm (7-65°) Machine gun port
12.7 mm 20 mm (1°) 10 mm
20 mm Driver's hatches
Missile platform N/A 10 mm N/A 10 mm
Armour Sides Roof
Cupola 20 mm 10 mm

Notes:

  • Suspension wheels and tracks are both 15 mm thick, while torsion bar chassis is 12 mm thick.
  • Belly armour is 10 mm thick.

Mobility

Game Mode Max Speed (km/h) Weight (tons) Engine power (horsepower) Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
Forward Reverse Stock Upgraded Stock Upgraded
Arcade 50 10 12 312 420 26 35
Realistic 46 10 195 220 16.25 18.33

The Type 60 ATM can only move about as fast as an average medium tank. Acceleration is above average, especially when mobility upgrades are researched, but racing against enemy tanks is only recommended if any other option means certain doom.

The issue is the turning ability, as it is slow. It will be problematic to turn around in the middle of a warzone, so a decent hull-down or hiding position is almost always required for comfortable sniping, due to a very limited optics vision arc. It is still possible to turn around even when hiding behind medium tank hull remains, but there will be a high risk of getting sniped, if not extra careful.

Getting stuck on rocks is very bad for this tank, similar to Type 60 SPRG (C), so if trying to take over mountain position, make sure there is nothing below you, in case if tank will slide off it.

Armaments

Main armament

The vehicle has two Type 64 ATGMs loaded at once, with four reserves being stored in the hull. These AGTMs can be launched from about a 30-degree arc in front of the hull. Only one missile can be controlled at a time.

You have the main camera leading indicator, which directs initial launch and guides missiles in arcade battles, and you have two separate targeting indicators for each launcher, which show the reload times and try to show how far missiles will fly initially in Close Quarters Combat (CQC), though they're extremely inaccurate and should only be used for range estimation and to see if the missile can be launched at all.

Sniper optics are only directed forward, so if you want to look at something in the distance while you guide the missile, you have to first turn your entire hull towards them.

Type 64 missiles are on the same trigger, the vehicle always attempts to fire the right missile first. The only way to fire left missile first is in CQC by turning your main aiming reticle to the left just enough for right launcher reticle to go offline, but not in the dead zone of left launcher yet. The left-to-right shot, however convenient, is impossible to make if the right launcher is loaded. This makes CQC firing training extremely complex and unforgiving.

Missiles have about 500 mm of penetration at flat angle, which is enough to penetrate anything at a battle rating of 6 to 8. While it's penetration is nothing to be amazed of, it has 4.5 kilograms of explosive mass, which compensates for its low projectile "health" and allows it to do fatal damage even with 30 mm penetration left. It's technically possible to even destroy T-64B with a good hit. Like with any HEAT based projectile, fuel tanks can stop it, if they are huge enough, and engines and radiators also can prevent hull break.

The missiles act very differently in either game mode, and so the vehicle cannot be treated same in AB as in RB, which further increases training difficulty.

Due to extremely limited firing arc, if one wants to forcefully launch missile behind enemy cover it is recommended to stand with hull towards the enemy behind cover and use left launcher to fire right (L-R) or right launcher to fire left (R-L), but since L-R shot is by default overridden by R-R shot, it is also recommended to practice it a lot, or to not attack enemy from the left, if possible. As for vertical attacks, it depends on game mode a lot.

It is also rather easy to just sidestep the missile, which most of BR ~8.0 light tanks will do, unless they do not notice ATGM somehow, or are too busy fighting something else.

In realistic battle, the missile has about 40 km/h initial speed and missile won't respond to your commands until it flies at least 50-80 meters away, and should be treated as a rocket until that point. Even past this point, the missile is rather slow on taking commands with about of 0.8-sec delay and prefers to keep its initial vertical course, so it's better to launch it properly, to begin with. To steer it around, the user must press buttons assigned for tank movements (the vertical controls are inverted with W being "down" and S being "up"). The longer the range, the easier it is to control the missile.

Ironically, lower speed allows it to be launched onto tanks which are almost ramming Type 60, with the dead zone being just 6 meters, if operator aims at the ground below the vehicle. Basically, this means it can one-shot T64 or tanks with an even lower profile, like IT-1, while being at a gunpoint. On flat ground, to hit targets at ~40 meters one should aim about 1/3 the range between tanks. To hit targets at ~80 meters one should aim 1/2 the range between tanks, as ATGM accelerates by that point.

Examples of aiming at close range in RB:

To hit targets in cover far away, the operator must be very good at judging distances, because input lag and missile attitude with it sometimes returning to the initial course makes dropping missiles hard down rather challenging. As for tanks which stand in open or with minimal cover, this brings no problems, as over distance you have plenty of time to correct course.

In arcade battle, Missile has full 89 km/h initial speed (also max speed) and responds to SACLOS manual input (mouse movements, not the targeting reticle itself) almost immediately (with real dead zone being unclear), so it can be somewhat curved around even during launch sequence, which allows the operator to push it even further behind houses. But due to its speed, the launch dead zone is extended to 11 m, so one cannot let enemy too close to themselves.

At 30-120 m range, past initial launch dead zone, the operator should always aim about 1\2 toward the enemy tank and correct the course of missile manually by moving the mouse. Past that range, it's possible to use SACLOS system reliably, as long as the enemy tank isn't moving towards ATGM carrier, so you can just aim straight at the enemy.

Examples of aiming at close range in AB:

Long range sniping isn't much different from RB, you just have to aim at the enemy with your mouse instead of manually curving missile. You also can move while guiding it, though it is still hard to do on a move, so you might want to rely on other ways of aiming.

To attack an enemy on move you have to use aim assist, a sniper scope is locked to launcher's firing arc and vehicle lacks stabilizer, so your missile may go anywhere it wants to otherwise. Due to missile overall low speed (currently the lowest one in the game) and "aim assist" option (right mouse button) as long as the enemy is in tank's sights, one can treat the missile as a sort of dumb third-generation missile. The point is, missile is so slow, that tank is almost unable to hit the ground or a wall with it on accident, which means that you can even launch it forward and follow it, and if anyone dares to drive in the open near to you, you can just hold right mouse button to make missile destroy them on its own, while you focus on driving and dodging enemy shots. It's still best to not drive around recklessly and rely on a missile that much, as it is still very slow and it still requires you to see enemy tank (which means, they also can see you) and it will not avoid any obstacles on away, so you still have to correct it sometimes.

Overall, if one uses aim assist, you should keep in mind how it works - it always aims for the centre of the tank, and it lags behind the moving vehicle. To avoid hitting fuel tanks or missing moving tank, you can adjust it without breaking the tracking. After holding down the aim assist button, move your mouse a bit up, to let missile hit enemy just below the gun barrel, but high enough to not hit their tracks, and, if target moves to the left or right, move the mouse to the left or right to make missile track them properly. After that, wait for about 10 to 13 seconds for it to hit enemy, unless they realize what's coming for them and sidestep the missile, or to hit a random obstacle on a way towards them. Having maxed out "keen vision" and "improved optics" allows you to do this at any range indefinitely, as it's impossible to avoid being detected by you at missile's effective range.

Main article: Type 64 MAT
120 mm Type 64 MAT ATGM
Capacity Fire rate
(shots/minute)
Vertical
guidance
Horizontal
guidance
Stabilizer
6 3 N/A N/A N/A
Turret rotation speed (°/s)
Mode Stock Upgraded Prior + Full crew Prior + Expert qualif. Prior + Ace qualif.
Arcade 25.9 31.5 31.5 34.8 __.__
Realistic 17.5 21.3 21.3 23.5 __.__
Reloading rate (seconds)
Stock Prior + Full crew Prior + Expert qualif. Prior + Ace qualif.
13.0 11.5 10.6 __.__
Ammunition
Penetration statistics
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Penetration in mm @ 0° Angle of Attack
10 m 100 m 500 m 1,000 m 1,500 m 2,000 m
Type 64 ATGM 500 500 500 500 500 500
Shell details
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Maximum Velocity
in m/s
Projectile
Mass in kg
Range (m) Fuse delay

in m:

Fuse sensitivity

in mm:

Explosive Mass in g
(TNT equivalent):
Normalization At 30°
from horizontal:
Ricochet:
0% 50% 100%
Type 64 ATGM 85 16 1,800 0.0 0.1 4,550 +0° 80° 82° 90°

Notes:

  • Flight characteristics heavily depend on the mode you play in.
  • While stat card states the max range is 1,800 m, in reality, it is less due to the missile losing fuel making course corrections. The resulting effective range is closer to 1,600 m.
  • In AB, rearm takes about 40 seconds once the launcher is empty and no partial rearm can be done on the capture point. Rearm only happens for one launcher at once, which means full rearm will take you 80 seconds. Launcher still reloads during rearming, so you can fire away immediately after it's done.
Ammo racks
Full
ammo
1st
rack empty
2nd
rack empty
3rd
rack empty
4th
rack empty
5th
rack empty
6th
rack empty
Visual
discrepancy
6 XX (X+)  (+)  (+)  (+)  (+)  (+) no

Machine guns

The Type 60 ATM comes equipped with a coaxial 12.7 mm M2HB Browning machine gun and a smaller 7.62 mm Browning machine gun.

The 7.62 mm, while useless against conventional tanks, can sometimes come in handy for clearing some debris and can convince some battle rating 6.7 open top HEAT SPG to leave you alone. The 12.7 mm machine gun serves a similar purpose, but it also can destroy some light tanks, though something like AMX-13 will resist its fire from the front.

Both types of MGs are only able to fire at planes that try to strafe the vehicle directly, which is not very likely, so in case if an attacker is present on the field, the vehicle should just hide behind some hills or trees and hope the pilot isn't after it.

12.7 mm M2HB
Pintle mount
Capacity (Belt capacity) Fire rate
(shots/minute)
Vertical
guidance
Horizontal
guidance
2,500 (200) 577 -5°/+25° ±45°
7.62 mm M1919A4
Coaxial mount
Capacity (Belt capacity) Fire rate
(shots/minute)
Vertical
guidance
Horizontal
guidance
3,000 (250) 500 ±22° ±22°

Usage in the battles

The Type 60 ATM struggles in close quarters and is unsuited for direct urban combat. When playing the Type 60 ATGM consider all your flanking routes and hull-down positions as your high damage potential can be most effectively harnessed in these environments. Avoid all major sight-lines, and pick your targets carefully. The cover is your best friend, finding positions, where you can scout enemy vehicles for your team, can often be more beneficial than attempting to destroy enemy tanks yourself.

To get most out of the tank, one should find a hull-down position with a sight onto capture point, to scout everyone, who is open for allied snipers, and then pick off pinned down opponents, forcing them to choose between being destroyed by ATGM or your allies.

As one example, on Alaska map Type 60 ATM can use concrete blocks and rubbish to the east of B point to become resistant to enemy fire while being able to fire clean shots at both A and B points with little fear of being directly attacked back.

The Type 60 ATM often plays out as a support vehicle instead of a tank destroyer, simply scouting enemy tanks and repairing damaged allies. Keep in mind, that enemy often likes to call artillery upon huge tank groups, and your tank can be destroyed on accident. It is safer to assist heavy hull-down tanks, as it's generally pointless to use artillery on them, and many may not even notice the Type 60 next to them. After you repaired the allied tank, immediately move away from them, as if they get destroyed, the shockwave will annihilate the Type 60 hull.

In AB it can also do some moral damage, as its presence alone forces the enemy to change plans, as soon as they realize it can destroy them without even showing up on a field or doing elaborate artillery tricks, unlike Type 60 SPRG (C). You shouldn't let this to get to your head, though, as you are most likely unable to stop massive coordinated push alone. Still, the fear alone may stall enemy long enough for a vehicle to rearm, and damage done to the launcher is completely irrelevant in arcade mode.

As example, experienced type 60 ATM user can entrench it on river of Berlin map, making people who see ATGM for the first time to lose any will to attack B point at all, and seriously stalling the rest, although this requires meticulous training in close range launch techniques, as combat range there can quickly reach 20 meters, and ground isn't exactly even, often resulting in misses.

Examples of urban combat in arcade mode (In realistic mode, only try this at your own discretion):

In one-on-one situations, it is often better to fire only one launcher at the enemy, unless they try to push you, just to keep enemy guessing if it's even worth attacking you, instead of firing both missiles at once or doing nothing and letting them know, that you are harmless now. In arcade mode, while your launcher rearms, you can also join allied bombers as secondary attacker or bomber as a scout, to spend points earned by scouting and to cut off enemy reinforcement.

The Type 60 ATM's biggest threats in battle are many. Avoid directly fighting all vehicles at all costs to prevent being destroyed - almost every shell at your battle rating will destroy Type 60 with ease. The vehicle will often face enemy frontally when you fire missiles, and that's where the three out of five of your crew are crammed together, two of which are the gunner and driver.

As soon as the enemy tries to drop artillery on you, it's best to leave the position and move to a safer place. As such, always keep plan B in your head.

Try to use scouting to know the very moment your opponent drives out to attack your tank and try to blast them away with ATGM. If the direct confrontation with a light tank is inevitable - fire 12.7 MG at its sides as well and hope it penetrates them.

Counter-tactics

The biggest threat from this tank comes in form of its abilities to hide behind almost anything, retaliate despite heavy ammo rack damage and to fire over cover. In realistic battles, and even in arcade battles, if a player pays no attention, their tank can be suddenly hit by a gigantic HEAT bomb with the Type 60 as its sender. Being aware of its presence is the key to avoiding this.

For example, the Type 60's ATGM is very loud, so unless it was fired from 1.5 km away (almost maximum range for this tank), the sound of the missile launch will likely be audible. Do not ignore them and remember where it came from.

The only comfortable way to destroy hull-down Type 60 ATM relies on using 105 mm HE and HESH. HEAT is not effective against it, so carry at least 2 of those in the battle. Whenever a Type 60 ATM is spotted standing behind low cover, try to not focus on its launchers and instead try to spot machine gun shield on its right (left for an opposing player) and fire explosives at the shield itself. It is very likely that HE shock-wave will hit poor roof armour and either annihilate tank crew or break the hull entirely. In the case of HESH, hitting the machine gun shield and part of the roof will transform into shrapnel and tear the tank apart - this generally doesn't happen if the launchers are hit. If the attack only took out the crew in the front, repeat the attack after the back crew moved forward to replace driver and commander (gunner). If only the launchers are visible, generally only HE can destroy the opponent easily.

120 mm kinetic shell can cause hull break, but only if it hits the hull itself.

Do note, that Type 60 ATM has two missiles at once and is rarely truly alone due to "scouting" ability. Scouting also allows it to track tanks, even behind smoke screens and walls, for better missile accuracy.

Type 60 ATM has a rather long reload sequence and only 3 missiles for each rack. The ammo pool is not shared between them and it is clearly visible which rack is currently loaded, so a quick blitz during reload or rearm can put an end to it. To avoid being suddenly crushed by fatal "roof shot", do not ram the tank frontally, or at least push it around without stopping. Do note that while the exposed MG is a weakness of Type 60 ATM, it is still of 12.7 mm caliber and it can shred some light tanks and SPG at close range before they can even get a direct shot. If the rushing tanks have less than 29 mm of effective armour, they shouldn't approach Type 60 ATM directly.

If missiles were already launched, there are a few ways to protect the tank:

A) Attack active missiles with machine guns. Attacking dormant missile in the rack with machine gun is less effective (In Arcade Mode it does nothing at all). If laying down suppressive fire - the Type 60's right missile rack (left if facing the Type 60) almost always fires first.
As soon as missile fires off, try to fire in front of the missile path, as bullets do not teleport and may overshoot it. If missile is hit a few times it explodes.
Missile interception is often hard to do, if missile is guided at an angle and doesn't just fly straight towards the tank. It is generally useful for heavy tanks, which can't outrun it anyway, and medium tanks with high fire rate machine guns.
B) Sidestep the missile, as it is very slow, and in RB it even has input lag. To quickly change direction, the player's tank have to be mobile or at least to have great acceleration. Thus this option is more suitable for light tanks and light tank destroyers. Do note that if the Type 60 ATM operator is set on destroying a tank, they will try very hard to steer missile into a moving target, so only stop after the missile passed the vehicle's position entirely.
C) Sacrifice cannon barrel or pull the fuel tanks and engine forward to block missile. This will greatly reduce overall damage taken by tank and likely prevent the loss of entire crew in single hit. If lightly armoured tank takes ATGM hit into radiators, fuel tank or engine, they also likely won't "hull break".

Modules

Tier Mobility Protection Firepower
I Tracks Parts
II Suspension Brake System FPE Airstrike
III Filters Crew Replenishment
IV Transmission Engine Improved optics

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Good missile manoeuvrability - closely resembles superior BAe Swingfire, even though in RB it has control issues
  • Type 64 ATGM's provide exceptional firepower compared to HEAT, due to increased payload and heavily reduced angle of impact
  • Upwards facing launchers can allow the vehicle to fire at enemy behind cover, although the setup is often required
  • Has scouting and can repair any allied tank as a support vehicle
  • Spaded version can reach maximum speed almost instantly in some cases, can compete with average medium tanks in terms of forward speed and hill climbing

Cons:

  • Very limited main ammunition (even more so than SPRG version)
  • Cannot be partially rearmed on capture point in AB, forcing it to completely empty the ammunition
  • Slow missile speed, to a point it can be sidestepped by many tanks
  • Need a visual target for an accurate hit, otherwise it heavily relies on operator skill to hit anything at all
  • Can't move while the missile flies to the target in RB
  • Missiles have input lag in RB, which makes them unreliable at times
  • Need a certain range for effective hit (maximum 1600 m for long range, at least 10 m at close range, at least 100 m for a guidance system to start in RB)
  • Very long reload after each missile is fired
  • Highly visible, very distinct profile, with the sore Japanese green camouflage and obvious launchers
  • Little to no armour, most shells immediately destroy this vehicle
  • Limited turning ability, which sometimes forces it to expose itself

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Japan tank destroyers
Ro-Go Derivatives  Ro-Go Exp.
Chi-Ha Derivatives  Ho-Ni I · Ho-Ni III · Ho-Ro · Chi-Ha LG
Ho-Ri  Ho-Ri Prototype · Ho-Ri Production
Other  Na-To
JGSDF 
SPRG  Type 60 (C)
SPH  Type 75 · Type 99
ATGM  Type 60 ATM
Rocket  Type 75 MLRS
USA  ▅M36