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* No thermal sight for commander
 
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* Reloads quite slowly(~10 seconds)
 
* Reloads quite slowly(~10 seconds)
* Abysmal penetration figures for the 1-72-85 APDS-FS round against heavily armoured vehicles - expect the round to frequently non-pen or bounce off (especially) Russian T-62's, British Chieftains and American M60's
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== History ==
 
== History ==

Revision as of 09:52, 22 March 2021

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PTL02
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PTL02
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Description

The HuoPao TuJi LunShi 02 (Simplified Chinese: PTL02 轮式突击炮; lit. wheeled assault gun) is a rank VI Chinese light tank with a battle rating of 8.7 (AB) and 9.0 (RB/SB). It was introduced in Update "Ixwa Strike".

Based on the WZ551 6x6 chassis developed in early 1990s (it shares the same chassis with ZSL-92), this vehicle is also the very first wheeled assault gun of the Chinese TT. Having subpar speed compare to the similar BR wheeled vehicles (at 85 km/h on road) and paper-like protection, it might not be the first vehicle with a role as sniper platform and flanks, but still a significantly faster vehicle than all PLAGF/ROCA vehicles has to offer for now. With its high velocity 100 mm smoothbore AT gun on-board, it can do some damage with the APFSDS at 220 mm RHA penetration at point-blank range. This vehicle has thermal sights with acceptable resolution, which can be precious at its BR since it can significantly speed up the seek and destroy process.

General info

Survivability and armour

Smoke grenades
Creation of a smoke screen in front of the vehicle
Armourfront / side / back
Hull10 / 8 / 6
Turret30 / 20 / 15
Crew5 people
Visibility136 %

One of the major drawback of this vehicle is the inferior protect against any calibre bigger than 12.7 mm since only the turret has more than 20 mm of armour that can stop HMG rounds from some range, other than that it's 5 to 10 mm of armour all around. Avoid anything with a HMG or any autocannon vehicles (including aircraft) at all cost, because it is very likely you will not have the second chance to return fire and knock the enemy out.

Armour type:

  • Rolled homogeneous armour
Armour Front (Slope angle) Sides Rear Roof
Hull 10 mm (33°) Driver viewport glacis
10 mm (78°) Upper Glacis
10 mm (40°) Lower Glacis
8 mm (25°) Top
10 mm (6°) Bottom
8mm (27°)Wheelwells
6 mm (4°) Upper plate
6 mm (48°) Lower glacis
10 mm (12°) Front glacis
6 mm Driver hatch
6 mm Centre
Turret 30 mm (31°) Turret front
20 mm (29°) Turret Cheeks
30 mm (0°) Gun mantlet
20 mm (23°) Frontal
20 mm (9°) Rear
5 mm (14°) 10 mm (12°)
10 mm (13°) Centre
Cupola 10 mm (cylindrical) 10 mm

Mobility

Speedforward / back
AB94 / 8 km/h
RB and SB84 / 8 km/h
Number of gears8 forward
1 back
Weight19.0 t
Engine power
AB611 hp
RB and SB320 hp
Power-to-weight ratio
AB32.2 hp/t
RB and SB16.8 hp/t
Game Mode Max Speed (km/h) Weight (tons) Engine power (horsepower) Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
Forward Reverse Stock Upgraded Stock Upgraded
Arcade 94 8 19 496 611 26.11 32.16
Realistic 84 8 283 320 14.89 16.84

Powered by a licensed BF8L413F 325 hp diesel engine from Germany, it can push this vehicle at the speed of 85 km/h ( and -8 km/h in reverse) on road. This vehicle still lags behind all wheeled assault guns in the game, making it the slowest at present, as well as the common problem for wheeled vehicles performing worse on soft terrain, which in this specific case is even worse due to the inferior power-to-weight ratio. Another negative aspect of the PTL02's mobility is the absurdly slow reverse speed of only ~7km/h, meaning it lacks the agility wheeled vehicles should have and will not be able to quickly back out from danger.

To make the most out of the good top speed, it will need to navigate on hard terrain (roads, urban surfaces) for the best result. If the situation requires for you to use this gun as a last-ditch weapon on hilly and soft terrain maps, try your best not to get stuck since the lack of mobility will absolutely be the death sentence of this vehicle.

Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference
AB3 177 → 5 375 Sl icon.png
RB3 316 → 5 610 Sl icon.png
SB3 841 → 6 498 Sl icon.png
Total cost of modifications157 700 Rp icon.png
260 400 Sl icon.png
Talisman cost2 600 Ge icon.png
Crew training150 000 Sl icon.png
Experts520 000 Sl icon.png
Aces2 100 Ge icon.png
Research Aces950 000 Rp icon.png
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
130 / 160 / 210 % Sl icon.png
220 / 220 / 220 % Rp icon.png
Modifications
Mobility Protection Firepower
Mods new wheels.png
Tires
Research:
8 400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
13 000 Sl icon.png
390 Ge icon.png
Mods new car suspension.png
Suspension
Research:
6 300 Rp icon.png
Cost:
9 900 Sl icon.png
290 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank break.png
Brake System
Research:
6 300 Rp icon.png
Cost:
9 900 Sl icon.png
290 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank filter.png
Filters
Research:
8 400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
13 000 Sl icon.png
390 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank transmission.png
Transmission
Research:
9 100 Rp icon.png
Cost:
14 000 Sl icon.png
420 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank engine.png
Engine
Research:
9 100 Rp icon.png
Cost:
14 000 Sl icon.png
420 Ge icon.png
Mods tank tool kit.png
Improved Parts
Research:
2 500 Rp icon.png
Cost:
13 000 Sl icon.png
390 Ge icon.png
Mods extinguisher.png
Improved FPE
Research:
1 900 Rp icon.png
Cost:
9 900 Sl icon.png
290 Ge icon.png
Mods tank reinforcement cn.png
Crew Replenishment
Research:
8 400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
13 000 Sl icon.png
390 Ge icon.png
Mods smoke screen.png
Smoke grenade
Research:
9 100 Rp icon.png
Cost:
14 000 Sl icon.png
420 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank horizontal aiming.png
Horizontal Drive
Research:
8 400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
13 000 Sl icon.png
390 Ge icon.png
Mods tank ammo.png
100mm_cn_HEAT_ammo_pack
Research:
8 400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
13 000 Sl icon.png
390 Ge icon.png
Mods tank cannon.png
Adjustment of Fire
Research:
6 300 Rp icon.png
Cost:
9 900 Sl icon.png
290 Ge icon.png
Mods airstrike.png
Airstrike
Research:
6 300 Rp icon.png
Cost:
9 900 Sl icon.png
290 Ge icon.png
Mods scouting.png
Improved optics
Research:
6 300 Rp icon.png
Cost:
9 900 Sl icon.png
290 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank vertical aiming.png
Elevation Mechanism
Research:
8 400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
13 000 Sl icon.png
390 Ge icon.png
Mods thermal sight.png
NVD
Research:
8 400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
13 000 Sl icon.png
390 Ge icon.png
Mods scout streak.png
Scout UAV
Research:
8 400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
13 000 Sl icon.png
390 Ge icon.png
Mods art support.png
Artillery Support
Research:
9 100 Rp icon.png
Cost:
14 000 Sl icon.png
420 Ge icon.png
Mods tank laser rangefinder.png
Laser rangefinder
Research:
9 100 Rp icon.png
Cost:
14 000 Sl icon.png
420 Ge icon.png
Mods tank ammo.png
100mm_cn_APFSDS_ammo_pack
Research:
9 100 Rp icon.png
Cost:
14 000 Sl icon.png
420 Ge icon.png

Armaments

Laser rangefinder
Reduces the error and increases the maximum measurable distance of the rangefinder
Night vision device
Improves visibility by enhancing natural light or active illumination.
Thermal imager
Allows to see thermal radiation in the infrared range day and night

Main armament

Two-plane stabilizer
Reduces the swing of the gun in two planes while moving
Ammunition30 rounds
First-order9 rounds
Reloadbasic crew → aces
8.7 → 6.7 s
Vertical guidance-4° / 18°
Main article: PTP86 (100 mm)

The 100 mm PTP-86 smoothbore gun found on this vehicle was a improvement on the earlier Soviet based PTP-73 (Type 73) AT gun with the same calibre. The PTP-86 has similar performance as the Type 69's gun and players can get used to it fairly quickly. Bear in mind the slow reload and poor gun depression.

100 mm PTP86 Turret rotation speed (°/s) Reloading rate (seconds)
Mode Capacity Vertical Horizontal Stabilizer Stock Upgraded Full Expert Aced Stock Full Expert Aced
Arcade 30 -4°/+18° ±180° Two-plane __._ __._ __._ __._ __._ _.__ _.__ _.__ _.__
Realistic __._ __._ __._ __._ __._

Ammunition

Penetration statistics
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
10 m 100 m 500 m 1,000 m 1,500 m 2,000 m
1-72-85 APDS-FS APFSDS 220 213 193 173 156 140
1-71-74 HE HE 17 17 17 17 17 17
Type 1973 HEAT-FS HEATFS 390 390 390 390 390 390
Shell details
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Velocity
(m/s)
Projectile
Mass (kg)
Fuse delay
(m)
Fuse sensitivity
(mm)
Explosive Mass
(TNT equivalent) (g)
Ricochet
0% 50% 100%
1-72-85 APDS-FS APFSDS 1,505 4.7 N/A N/A N/A 76° 77° 80°
1-71-74 HE HE 900 15 0 0.1 1,300 79° 80° 81°
Type 1973 HEAT-FS HEATFS 1,000 10.05 0.05 0.1 1,180 65° 72° 77°

Ammo racks

Full
ammo
1st
rack empty
2nd
rack empty
3rd
rack empty
4th
rack empty
5th
rack empty
6th
rack empty
Visual
discrepancy
30 __ (+__) __ (+__) __ (+__) __ (+__) __ (+__) __ (+__) __

Machine guns

Ammunition600 rounds
Belt capacity150 rounds
Reloadbasic crew → aces
6.5 → 5.0 s
Fire rate600 shots/min
Vertical guidance-6° / 85°
Ammunition1 000 rounds
Belt capacity250 rounds
Reloadbasic crew → aces
10.4 → 8.0 s
Fire rate700 shots/min

The turret-mounted 12.7 mm QJC88A HMG has already become the standardized HMG for most PLAGF vehicles after the 1990s. The main usage of the HMG is to deal with lightly protected vehicles and low-flying aircraft including helicopters. It can also effectively damage gun barrels, tracks, optics, MG, and ERA to assist teammates in destroying enemies, though this may require more belts.

The 7.62 mm MG, on the other hand, is only useful in clearing obstacles such as fences, marking out enemy positions on the minimap, or knocking out exposed crew on certain vehicles (eg. M113 TOW). It lacks the penetration to pierce through even lightly armoured vehicles.

12.7 mm QJC88A
Mount Capacity (Belt) Fire rate Vertical Horizontal
Pintle 500 (150) 700 -5°/+60° ±180°
7.62 mm Type 86
Mount Capacity (Belt) Fire rate Vertical Horizontal
Coaxial 800 (250) 700 N/A N/A

Usage in battles

Being a wheeled vehicle and the very first wheeled assault gun of the Chinese tech tree, mobility and its gun sight is where it shines.

With its 85 km/h speed, flanking is the key to avoid any direct fire from pretty much any vehicles with 12.7 mm as its weapon and above, because of the negligible protection found on this vehicle, take all precautions and avoid rushing into direct fire at all cost, you will not have the luxury of having the second chance to return fire. Being currently the slowest wheeled assault gun in the game, taking advantage points might not be possible with the inferior top speed and only getting worse in off-road situations, complicated terrains are problematic for this vehicle that will excels better in urban combats. Any aircraft is a lethal threat, with either guns or rockets, so keep away from their sight.

While the gun does sufficient damage to vehicles at lower tier or lightly protected tanks, it will have trouble with Cold-War heavy tanks such as M103 or tanks with rounded hull such as M48 Patton. Bringing some HEATFS help deal with such vehicles. Due to the late introduction of this vehicle in-game wise (2002), this vehicle has thermal sights, with sufficient resolution to help players find targets. Utilize your mobility and the high velocity 100 mm smoothbore gun to clean up any potential flankers.

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • High speed and agility on hard and even terrain
  • Hard-hitting 100 mm cannon firing powerful HEATFS and APFSDS shells
  • Gunner thermal optics significantly boost its fighting capacity, especially at night
  • Thin armour may cause overpenetration, leading to minimal shrapnel damage
  • Fast turret traverse
  • Two-plane stabiliser allows better targeting
  • Roof-mounted 12.7 mm HMG is lethal against helicopters and light vehicles

Cons:

  • Extremely slow reverse speed for a wheeled vehicle
  • Poor gun depression (-4 degrees) renders it useless in hilly battlefields
  • Very thin armour, can be mowed down by common .50 cals frontally as well as hull-broken by HEAT
  • Tall profile
  • Huge recoil, firing to the sides or on a slope will cause severe hull wobbling
  • As with other wheeled vehicles, poor mobility on soft or uneven terrain
  • No thermal sight for commander
  • Reloads quite slowly(~10 seconds)
  • Abysmal penetration figures for the 1-72-85 APDS-FS round against heavily armoured vehicles - expect the round to frequently non-pen or bounce off common Russian T-62's, British Chieftains and American M60's

History

Devblog

In the late 1980's, the NORINCO corporation successfully tested the Type 87 armored vehicle. The prototype featured a 6x6 chassis of a prospective Type 90 armored personnel carrier with a 100mm anti-tank gun. The prototype vehicle successfully passed the tests, but was not put into service.

The army authorities returned to the project in the early 90's, when, in the course of modernization, the PLA began to form mobile motorized infantry formations. This was where the Type 87 researches came in handy: by 2003, on the same 6x6 chassis of the new Chinese armored vehicles ZSL92 and ZSL92A, a PTL02 infantry support vehicle appeared with a 100mm smooth-bore cannon in the turret. The 19-ton infantry fire support vehicle possessed significant mobility and a weapon capable of effectively destroying fortifications and armored vehicles, except for modern MBTs.

Mass production of the PTL02 has been going on since 2004, the SPG is widely used by the Chinese army and is produced for export in a version with a 105mm gun, unified for the use of Western-style ammunition.

Media

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China light tanks
Type 63  Object 211 · Type 63 · ZTS63
Type 62  Type 62
WZ551  ZSL92 · PTL02 · WMA301
ZBL08  ZLT11
Type 86  ZBD86
WZ502  ZBD04A
ROC  M41D · M64
Type 59  QN506
USA  ␗M8 LAC · ␗M3A3 Stuart · ␗M3A3 (1st PTG) · ␗M5A1 · ␗M24 · ␗M18 GMC · ␗M41A3
USSR  ␗T-26 · T-26 No.531 · ␗PT-76