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== Description == | == Description == | ||
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− | The '''39.M | + | The '''39.M Csaba''' was a Hungarian armoured car designed by Nicholas Straussler. During World War II, it was manufactured for the Royal Hungarian Army and saw extensive use on the Eastern Front against the Soviet Union. The Csaba is based on Straussler's Alvis AC2 armoured car design and is named after Attila the Hun's youngest son. Following successful trials in 1939, the Hungarian Army ordered 61 vehicles, followed by an additional order for 40 vehicles in 1940. Twenty of them were used as combat vehicles, with the others serving as armoured command and reconnaissance vehicles. The 39.M Csaba was armed with a 20 mm Solothurn QF.36M anti-tank autocannon and a coaxial 8 mm Gebauer machine gun. The vehicle also had a removable anti-aircraft 8 mm Solothurn light machine gun that was fired from the rear hatch. The crew could dismount and carry this LMG while conducting reconnaissance on foot. It also had two driving positions, one in the front and one in the back. |
− | Introduced in [[Update "Sons of Attila"]], the 39.M | + | Introduced in [[Update "Sons of Attila"]], the 39.M Csaba is the starter vehicle for the Hungarian ground forces line of the Italian tech tree. Its high mobility helps players easily explore the map, capture points, and quickly flee from danger. The 20 mm [[Solothurn QF.36M (20 mm)|Solothurn QF.36M]] anti-tank autocannon has a quick reload but no fully automatic firing mode. As an armoured car developed for reconnaissance, it has a low profile and may readily set up an ambush for enemies early in battles. Unfortunately, players of the 39.M Csaba will struggle to defeat well-armoured enemy tanks due to the lacklustre penetration, as well as poor post-penetration damage. Furthermore, given the poor armour and cramped interior, any penetrating rounds, even from heavy machine guns, are often fatal. |
== General info == | == General info == | ||
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! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof | ! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof | ||
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− | | Hull || 13 mm (58°) ''Upper'' | + | | Hull || 13 mm (58°) ''Upper''<br>7 mm (13°) ''Lower'' |
− | 7 mm (13°) ''Lower'' | + | | 7 mm (47°) ''Top'' <br> 7 mm (26°) ''Bottom'' || 7 mm (72°) ''Top''<br>7 mm (15-33°) ''Bottom'' |
− | | 7 mm (47°) ''Top'' <br> 7 mm (26°) ''Bottom'' || 7 mm (72°) ''Top'' | ||
− | 7 mm (15-33°) ''Bottom'' | ||
| 7 mm | | 7 mm | ||
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| Turret || 10 mm (7°) ''Turret front'' <br>10 mm ''Gun mantlet'' || 10 mm (17°) || 10 mm (36°) || 7 mm (72-90°) | | Turret || 10 mm (7°) ''Turret front'' <br>10 mm ''Gun mantlet'' || 10 mm (17°) || 10 mm (36°) || 7 mm (72-90°) | ||
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{{Specs-Tank-Mobility}} | {{Specs-Tank-Mobility}} | ||
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=== Modifications and economy === | === Modifications and economy === | ||
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{{main|Solothurn QF.36M (20 mm)}} | {{main|Solothurn QF.36M (20 mm)}} | ||
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! ''Arcade'' | ! ''Arcade'' | ||
− | | rowspan="2" | 200 (5) || rowspan="2" | 60 || rowspan="2" | -10°/+25° || rowspan="2" | ±180° || rowspan="2" | - || | + | | rowspan="2" | 200 (5) || rowspan="2" | 60 || rowspan="2" | -10°/+25° || rowspan="2" | ±180° || rowspan="2" | - || 22.8 || 31.6 || 38.4 || 42.5 || 45.2 || rowspan="2" | 3.90 || rowspan="2" | 3.45 || rowspan="2" | 3.18 || rowspan="2" | 3.00 |
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! ''Realistic'' | ! ''Realistic'' | ||
− | | | + | | 14.3 || 16.8 || 20.4 || 22.6 || 24.0 |
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{{main|34/40M (8 mm)}} | {{main|34/40M (8 mm)}} | ||
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! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal | ! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal | ||
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− | | || | + | | Coaxial || 3,000 (100) || 900 || - || - |
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=== Pros and cons === | === Pros and cons === | ||
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'''Pros:''' | '''Pros:''' | ||
* Reverse gearbox allows it to retreat from danger or reposition quickly | * Reverse gearbox allows it to retreat from danger or reposition quickly | ||
− | * Fast 1 | + | * Fast 1 second reload speed lets it fire rapid follow-up shots |
− | * Relatively high | + | * Relatively high top speed, especially on paved roads |
− | * Small profile makes it hard to | + | * Good mobility, even off-road |
− | * Geometric hull | + | * Small profile makes it hard to spot and shoot at |
− | + | * Geometric hull can bounce machine gun bullets | |
− | * | + | * 4 crewmembers allows it to survive some shots, unlike many vehicles at this rank with only 2 crewmembers |
+ | * Good gun depression | ||
+ | * Plenty of ammo | ||
'''Cons:''' | '''Cons:''' | ||
− | * Extremely low survivability due to thin | + | * Extremely low survivability due to thin armour and cramped interior |
* 20 mm shell has limited explosive filler, making spacious tanks (e.g. [[LVT(A)(1)|LVT(A)]], [[Pz.IV C|Pz.IV]]) hard to destroy | * 20 mm shell has limited explosive filler, making spacious tanks (e.g. [[LVT(A)(1)|LVT(A)]], [[Pz.IV C|Pz.IV]]) hard to destroy | ||
* Cannon has poor penetration (34 mm at most) especially as range increases, restricting its capacity | * Cannon has poor penetration (34 mm at most) especially as range increases, restricting its capacity | ||
* Low weight, easily stopped by obstacles like small trees and fences | * Low weight, easily stopped by obstacles like small trees and fences | ||
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== History == | == History == | ||
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== Media == | == Media == | ||
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+ | ;Skins | ||
+ | * [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=it_39m_csaba Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.] | ||
== See also == | == See also == | ||
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* ''reference to the series of the vehicles;'' | * ''reference to the series of the vehicles;'' | ||
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.'' --> | * ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.'' --> | ||
− | '' | + | '''Other Hungarian vehicles''' |
− | * '' | + | * [[Toldi IIA]] |
− | * | + | * [[Turan I|Turán I]] |
+ | * [[Turan II|Turán II]] | ||
+ | * [[Turan III|Turán III]] | ||
+ | * [[Zrinyi I|Zrínyi I]] | ||
+ | * [[Zrinyi II|Zrínyi II]] | ||
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+ | '''Similar vehicles''' | ||
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+ | * [[AB 41]] | ||
+ | * [[AMD.35]] | ||
== External links == | == External links == | ||
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* ''topic on the official game forum;'' | * ''topic on the official game forum;'' | ||
* ''other literature.'' --> | * ''other literature.'' --> | ||
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− | * | + | * [[wt:en/news/8431-development-39-m-csaba-the-youngest-son-en|[Devblog] 39.M Csaba: The Youngest Son]] |
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{{Italy light tanks}} | {{Italy light tanks}} | ||
[[Category:Wheeled ground vehicles]] | [[Category:Wheeled ground vehicles]] |
Latest revision as of 20:54, 1 April 2024
Contents
Description
The 39.M Csaba was a Hungarian armoured car designed by Nicholas Straussler. During World War II, it was manufactured for the Royal Hungarian Army and saw extensive use on the Eastern Front against the Soviet Union. The Csaba is based on Straussler's Alvis AC2 armoured car design and is named after Attila the Hun's youngest son. Following successful trials in 1939, the Hungarian Army ordered 61 vehicles, followed by an additional order for 40 vehicles in 1940. Twenty of them were used as combat vehicles, with the others serving as armoured command and reconnaissance vehicles. The 39.M Csaba was armed with a 20 mm Solothurn QF.36M anti-tank autocannon and a coaxial 8 mm Gebauer machine gun. The vehicle also had a removable anti-aircraft 8 mm Solothurn light machine gun that was fired from the rear hatch. The crew could dismount and carry this LMG while conducting reconnaissance on foot. It also had two driving positions, one in the front and one in the back.
Introduced in Update "Sons of Attila", the 39.M Csaba is the starter vehicle for the Hungarian ground forces line of the Italian tech tree. Its high mobility helps players easily explore the map, capture points, and quickly flee from danger. The 20 mm Solothurn QF.36M anti-tank autocannon has a quick reload but no fully automatic firing mode. As an armoured car developed for reconnaissance, it has a low profile and may readily set up an ambush for enemies early in battles. Unfortunately, players of the 39.M Csaba will struggle to defeat well-armoured enemy tanks due to the lacklustre penetration, as well as poor post-penetration damage. Furthermore, given the poor armour and cramped interior, any penetrating rounds, even from heavy machine guns, are often fatal.
General info
Survivability and armour
Describe armour protection. Note the most well protected and key weak areas. Appreciate the layout of modules as well as the number and location of crew members. Is the level of armour protection sufficient, is the placement of modules helpful for survival in combat? If necessary use a visual template to indicate the most secure and weak zones of the armour.
Armour type:
Armour | Front (Slope angle) | Sides | Rear | Roof |
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Hull | 13 mm (58°) Upper 7 mm (13°) Lower |
7 mm (47°) Top 7 mm (26°) Bottom |
7 mm (72°) Top 7 mm (15-33°) Bottom |
7 mm |
Turret | 10 mm (7°) Turret front 10 mm Gun mantlet |
10 mm (17°) | 10 mm (36°) | 7 mm (72-90°) |
Notes:
Mobility
Game Mode | Max Speed (km/h) | Weight (tons) | Engine power (horsepower) | Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton) | |||
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Forward | Reverse | Stock | Upgraded | Stock | Upgraded | ||
Arcade | 73 | 73 | 6 | 147 | 181 | 24.5 | 30.17 |
Realistic | 66 | 66 | 84 | 95 | 14 | 15.83 |
Modifications and economy
Armaments
Main armament
20 mm Solothurn QF.36M | Turret rotation speed (°/s) | Reloading rate (seconds) | ||||||||||||
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Mode | Capacity (Belt) | Fire rate | Vertical | Horizontal | Stabilizer | Stock | Upgraded | Full | Expert | Aced | Stock | Full | Expert | Aced |
Arcade | 200 (5) | 60 | -10°/+25° | ±180° | - | 22.8 | 31.6 | 38.4 | 42.5 | 45.2 | 3.90 | 3.45 | 3.18 | 3.00 |
Realistic | 14.3 | 16.8 | 20.4 | 22.6 | 24.0 |
Ammunition
Penetration statistics | |||||||
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Ammunition | Type of warhead |
Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm) | |||||
10 m | 100 m | 500 m | 1,000 m | 1,500 m | 2,000 m | ||
36M pancelgranat | APHE | 34 | 32 | 25 | 18 | 13 | 9 |
Shell details | ||||||||||||
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Ammunition | Type of warhead |
Velocity (m/s) |
Projectile mass (kg) |
Fuse delay (m) |
Fuse sensitivity (mm) |
Explosive mass (TNT equivalent) (g) |
Ricochet | |||||
0% | 50% | 100% | ||||||||||
36M pancelgranat | APHE | 762 | 0.15 | 1.2 | 9 | 2.38 | 47° | 60° | 65° |
Ammo racks
Full ammo |
1st rack empty |
2nd rack empty |
3rd rack empty |
4th rack empty |
5th rack empty |
6th rack empty |
Visual discrepancy |
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40 | __ (+__) | __ (+__) | __ (+__) | __ (+__) | __ (+__) | __ (+__) | __ |
Machine guns
8 mm 34/40M | ||||
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Mount | Capacity (Belt) | Fire rate | Vertical | Horizontal |
Coaxial | 3,000 (100) | 900 | - | - |
Usage in battles
Describe the tactics of playing in the vehicle, the features of using vehicles in the team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view but instead give the reader food for thought. Describe the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).
Pros and cons
Pros:
- Reverse gearbox allows it to retreat from danger or reposition quickly
- Fast 1 second reload speed lets it fire rapid follow-up shots
- Relatively high top speed, especially on paved roads
- Good mobility, even off-road
- Small profile makes it hard to spot and shoot at
- Geometric hull can bounce machine gun bullets
- 4 crewmembers allows it to survive some shots, unlike many vehicles at this rank with only 2 crewmembers
- Good gun depression
- Plenty of ammo
Cons:
- Extremely low survivability due to thin armour and cramped interior
- 20 mm shell has limited explosive filler, making spacious tanks (e.g. LVT(A), Pz.IV) hard to destroy
- Cannon has poor penetration (34 mm at most) especially as range increases, restricting its capacity
- Low weight, easily stopped by obstacles like small trees and fences
History
Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History) and add a link to it here using the main
template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <ref></ref>
, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <references />
. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under === In-game description ===
, also if applicable).
Media
- Skins
See also
Other Hungarian vehicles
Similar vehicles
External links
Italy light tanks | |
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Italy | |
L6/40 | L6/40 · L6/40 (31 Rgt.) |
M11/39 | M11/39 |
Autoblindo | AB 41 · AB 43 |
Fiat 6614/6616 | FIAT 6614 · AUBL/74 · AUBL/74 HVG |
R3 Capraia | R3 T106 FA |
Centauro | Centauro I 105 · Centauro I 105 R · Centauro I 120 · Centauro RGO · VRCC |
Freccia | VBC (PT2) · Freccia |
Dardo | Dardo · VCC-80/60 · VCC-80/30 |
Other | C13 T90 |
USA | ▄M3A3 · ▄M24 · ▄M18 |
Hungary | |
WWII | Csaba · Toldi IIA |
Post | ◔BTR-80A · KF41 |