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== Description ==
 
== Description ==
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a Rank {{Specs|rank}} French fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.73 "Vive la France"]].
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} French fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.73 "Vive la France"]].
  
 
== General info ==
 
== General info ==
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=== Flight Performance ===
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=== Flight performance ===
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''Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Maximum speed, maneuverability, speed and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.''-
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! rowspan="2" | Characteristics
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! colspan="8" | ''Stock''
 
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! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 4,000 m)
 
! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 4,000 m)
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! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(meters)
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! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(metres)
 
! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds)
 
! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds)
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! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(meters/second)
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! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(metres/second)
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! rowspan="2" |Take-off run<br>(meters)
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! rowspan="2" | Take-off run<br>(metres)
 
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! AB
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! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB !! AB !! RB
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! RB
 
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! AB
 
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! RB
 
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! AB
 
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! RB
 
 
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| 460 || 446 || {{Specs|ceiling}} || 21.0 || 21.9 || 9.4 || 9.4 || 300
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! Stock
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| 459 || 447 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 21.0 || 21.9 || 9.4 || 9.4 || rowspan="2" | 300
 
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| 497 || 477 || 19.0 || 20.0 || 14.9 || 11.9
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! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 4,000 m)
 
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! rowspan="2" |Max altitude (meters)
 
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! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds)
 
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! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(meters/second)
 
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! rowspan="2" |Take-off run (meters)
 
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! AB
 
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! AB
 
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! RB
 
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! AB
 
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! RB
 
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|497||477|| {{Specs|ceiling}} ||19.0||20.0||14.9||11.9||300
 
 
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====Details====
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==== Details ====
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! colspan="5" | Features
 
! colspan="5" | Features
 
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! Combat flap
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! Combat flaps !! Take-off flaps !! Landing flaps !! Air brakes !! Arrestor gear
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! Take-off flap
 
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! Landing flap
 
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! Air brakes
 
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! Arrestor gear
 
 
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! colspan="5" | Limits
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! rowspan="2" | Wing-break speed<br>(km/h)
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! rowspan="2" | Gear limit<br>(km/h)
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! rowspan="2" | Combat flap<br> (km/h)
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! colspan="2" | Max Static G
 
! colspan="2" | Max Static G
 
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! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! -
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! -
 
 
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| {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || N/A || N/A || 270 || ~13 || ~8
 
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! colspan="4" | Optimal velocities
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! Ailerons<br>(km/h)
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! Ailerons !! Rudder !! Elevators !! Radiator
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! Rudder<br>(km/h)
 
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! Elevators<br>(km/h)
 
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! Radiator<br>(km/h)
 
 
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| < ??? || < ??? || < ??? || > ???
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| < 310 || < 320 || < 330 || > 330
 
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! Optimal altitude
 
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! WEP Engine power
 
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| ?,??? m || ??? hp || ?,??? hp
 
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=== Survivability and armour ===
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
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* 70 mm Bulletproof glass in front of pilot.
 
* 70 mm Bulletproof glass in front of pilot.
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== Armaments ==
 
== Armaments ==
 
=== Offensive armament ===
 
=== Offensive armament ===
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{{main|MAC 1934 (7.5 mm)|Hispano 404 (20 mm)}}
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{{main|Hispano 404 (20 mm)|MAC 1934 (7.5 mm)}}
  
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The {{PAGENAME}} is armed with:
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* 4 x 7.5 mm [[MAC 1934 (7.5 mm)|MAC 1934]] machine guns (500 rpg = 2,000 total)
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* 1 x 20 mm Hispano 404 cannon, nose-mounted (60 rpg)
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* 1 x 20 mm [[Hispano_404_(20_mm)|Hispano 404]] cannon, nose-mounted (60 rpg = 60 total)
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* 4 x 7.5 mm MAC 1934 machine guns, wing-mounted (500 rpg = 2,000 total)
  
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The four machine guns are arranged in bundles of two mounted in each wing. Each are armed with the same amount of ammunition, which means that all guns will fire with each other until empty. The Hispano 404 cannon is nose mounted, terminating at the prop spinner.
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The four machine guns are arranged in bundles of two mounted in each wing. Each are armed with the same amount of ammunition, which means that all guns will fire together until empty. The Hispano 404 cannon is nose mounted, terminating at the prop spinner.
  
 
== Usage in battles ==
 
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The M.S.410 is a respectably balanced fighter, able to both turn and energy fight with reasonable performance in both roles. The typical French combo of 7.5mm MGs and 20mm Hispanio cannon though the spinner allows you to take on even the toughest of targets at your rank with little issue in landing hard-hitting knock-outs.
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The M.S.410 is a respectably balanced fighter, able to both turn and energy fight with reasonable performance in both roles. The typical French combo of 7.5 mm MGs and 20 mm Hispano cannon though the spinner allows you to take on even the toughest of targets at your rank with little issue in landing hard-hitting knock-outs.
  
 
Some aircraft will be able to outrun you, such as the early German air superiority fighters, and others like the Japanese will be able to outturn you, but very few planes will be able to do both. Use this to your advantage to gain the upper hand in the furball.
 
Some aircraft will be able to outrun you, such as the early German air superiority fighters, and others like the Japanese will be able to outturn you, but very few planes will be able to do both. Use this to your advantage to gain the upper hand in the furball.
  
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===Manual Engine Control===
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=== Manual Engine Control ===
 
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! rowspan="2" |Supercharger
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! Oil !! Water !! Type
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! Water
 
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| Not controllable || Controllable<br>Automatic pitch || Controllable || Not controllable || Combined || Controllable || Not controllable
 
 
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| Controllable || Controllable<br>Not auto controlled || Not controllable<br>Not auto controlled || Controllable<br>Not auto controlled || Combined || Not controllable<br>1 gear || Not controllable
 
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===Modules===
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! Tier
 
! Tier
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! Flight performance
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! Survivability
 
! Survivability
 
! Weaponry
 
! Weaponry
 
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| I
 
| I
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| Fuselage repair
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| Radiator
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| Offensive 7 mm
 
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| II
 
| II
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| Compressor
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| Airframe
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| New 7 mm MGs
 
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| III
 
| III
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| Wings repair
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| Engine
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| Offensive 20 mm
 
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| IV
 
| IV
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| Engine injection
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| Cover
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| New 20 mm cannons
 
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=== Pros and cons ===
 
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'''Pros:'''
 
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== History ==
 
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As the M.S.406 began entering squadron service in 1939, engineers at Morane-Saulnier continued working on the design, aiming to improve it. Several changes were made to the base design, which included the replacement of the old wing design with a new one, increased and improved offensive capabilities and the replacement of the old retractable radiator with a fixed one, among others. The applied changes resulted in the new M.S.410 being able to achieve somewhat better performance than its predecessor, namely reaching a slightly higher top speed. Right after the M.S.410 entered production, France capitulated in June 1940, halting the production of the aircraft after the fifth machine was constructed.
 
As the M.S.406 began entering squadron service in 1939, engineers at Morane-Saulnier continued working on the design, aiming to improve it. Several changes were made to the base design, which included the replacement of the old wing design with a new one, increased and improved offensive capabilities and the replacement of the old retractable radiator with a fixed one, among others. The applied changes resulted in the new M.S.410 being able to achieve somewhat better performance than its predecessor, namely reaching a slightly higher top speed. Right after the M.S.410 entered production, France capitulated in June 1940, halting the production of the aircraft after the fifth machine was constructed.
  
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Production of the M.S.410 was temporarily halted after the German occupation, but resumed shortly after under German supervision. Before France’s capitulation, an order for 500 M.S.410s was placed. Needless to say, this production quota was never met, even under German supervision. In the end, only around 70 examples of the M.S.410 were manufactured, most of which consisted of M.S.406 airframes being converted to the 410 standard. Even then, a large number of these machines were only partially upgraded to the 410 standard, leaving many examples as hybrid models.
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Production of the M.S.410 was temporarily halted after the German occupation, but resumed shortly after under German supervision. Before France's capitulation, an order for 500 M.S.410s was placed. Needless to say, this production quota was never met, even under German supervision. In the end, only around 70 examples of the M.S.410 were manufactured, most of which consisted of M.S.406 airframes being converted to the 410 standard. Even then, a large number of these machines were only partially upgraded to the 410 standard, leaving many examples as hybrid models.
  
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''- From [https://warthunder.com/en/news/5113-development-m-s-410-the-duelist-en Devblog]''
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''- From [[wt:en/news/5113-development-m-s-410-the-duelist-en|Devblog]]''
  
 
== Media ==
 
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== See also ==
 
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Revision as of 11:10, 20 September 2020

Rank 7 USA
F-5C Pack
M.S.410
ms_410c1.png
M.S.410
France flag.png France
II Rank
Battle rating:
AB RB SB
2.0 2.3 2.3
Class:
Research:7 900 Specs-Card-Exp.png
Purchase:10 000 Specs-Card-Lion.png
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Description

GarageImage M.S.410.jpg


The M.S.410 is a rank II French fighter with a battle rating of 2.0 (AB) and 2.3 (RB/SB). It was introduced in Update 1.73 "Vive la France".

General info

Flight performance

Characteristics Max Speed
(km/h at 4,000 m) 		Max altitude
(metres) 		Turn time
(seconds) 		Rate of climb
(metres/second) 		Take-off run
(metres)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
Stock 459 447 9800 21.0 21.9 9.4 9.4 300
Upgraded 497 477 19.0 20.0 14.9 11.9

Details

Features
Combat flaps Take-off flaps Landing flaps Air brakes Arrestor gear
X X ✓ X X
Limits
Wings (km/h) Gear (km/h) Flaps (km/h) Max Static G
Combat Take-off Landing + -
756 320 N/A N/A 270 ~13 ~8
Optimal velocities (km/h)
Ailerons Rudder Elevators Radiator
< 310 < 320 < 330 > 330

Survivability and armour

  • 70 mm Bulletproof glass in front of pilot.
  • 6 mm Steel plates behind the pilot's head.

Armaments

Offensive armament

Main articles: Hispano 404 (20 mm), MAC 1934 (7.5 mm)

The M.S.410 is armed with:

  • 1 x 20 mm Hispano 404 cannon, nose-mounted (60 rpg)
  • 4 x 7.5 mm MAC 1934 machine guns, wing-mounted (500 rpg = 2,000 total)

The four machine guns are arranged in bundles of two mounted in each wing. Each are armed with the same amount of ammunition, which means that all guns will fire together until empty. The Hispano 404 cannon is nose mounted, terminating at the prop spinner.

Usage in battles

The M.S.410 is a respectably balanced fighter, able to both turn and energy fight with reasonable performance in both roles. The typical French combo of 7.5 mm MGs and 20 mm Hispano cannon though the spinner allows you to take on even the toughest of targets at your rank with little issue in landing hard-hitting knock-outs.

Some aircraft will be able to outrun you, such as the early German air superiority fighters, and others like the Japanese will be able to outturn you, but very few planes will be able to do both. Use this to your advantage to gain the upper hand in the furball.

Manual Engine Control

MEC elements
Mixer Pitch Radiator Supercharger Turbocharger
Oil Water Type
Controllable Controllable
Not auto controlled 		Not controllable
Not auto controlled 		Controllable
Not auto controlled 		Combined Not controllable
1 gear 		Not controllable

Modules

Tier Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
I Fuselage repair Radiator Offensive 7 mm
II Compressor Airframe New 7 mm MGs
III Wings repair Engine Offensive 20 mm
IV Engine injection Cover New 20 mm cannons

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Effective dive speed
  • Decent ammo count in armaments
  • Acceptable flat line speed

Cons:

  • Low amount of cannon rounds (60 rpg)
  • Low energy retention
  • Terrible low speed control
  • Extremely difficult to extinguish on-plane fires

History

As the M.S.406 began entering squadron service in 1939, engineers at Morane-Saulnier continued working on the design, aiming to improve it. Several changes were made to the base design, which included the replacement of the old wing design with a new one, increased and improved offensive capabilities and the replacement of the old retractable radiator with a fixed one, among others. The applied changes resulted in the new M.S.410 being able to achieve somewhat better performance than its predecessor, namely reaching a slightly higher top speed. Right after the M.S.410 entered production, France capitulated in June 1940, halting the production of the aircraft after the fifth machine was constructed.

Production of the M.S.410 was temporarily halted after the German occupation, but resumed shortly after under German supervision. Before France's capitulation, an order for 500 M.S.410s was placed. Needless to say, this production quota was never met, even under German supervision. In the end, only around 70 examples of the M.S.410 were manufactured, most of which consisted of M.S.406 airframes being converted to the 410 standard. Even then, a large number of these machines were only partially upgraded to the 410 standard, leaving many examples as hybrid models.

- From Devblog

Media

Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.

See also

Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:

  • reference to the series of the aircraft;
  • links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.

External links


Morane-Saulnier Aeroplanes (Aéroplanes Morane-Saulnier)
Fighters  M.S.405C1
  M.S.406C1
  M.S.410
See Also  Valtion Lentokonetehdas

France fighters
Dewoitine  D.371 · D.371 H.S.9 · D.373 · D.500 · D.501 · Pallier's D.510 · D.520
Morane-Saulnier  M.S.405C1 · M.S.406C1 · M.S.410
Arsenal  V.G.33C-1
Bloch  M.B.152C1 · M.B.157
Caudron  C.R.714
Sud-Ouest  S.O.8000 Narval
American  H-75A-1 · H-75A-4 · ▄P-39Q-25 · ▄P-40F-5 Lafayette · ▄P-47D-22-RE · ▄P-63C-5 · F-6C-10-NA
  ▄F6F-5 · ▄F6F-5N · F4U-7 · ▄F8F-1B
Other countries  ▄Seafire LF Mk.III · ▄Yak-3 · Challe's ▄Yak-9T · NC.900
Belgium  ▄Gladiator Mk I · ▄Spitfire FR Mk XIVe
Netherlands  ◘Sea Fury FB 51

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