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== Usage in battles ==
 
== Usage in battles ==
 
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'''Air Realistic Battles''' '''- Bomber'''
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''The Vautour IIA can be used in 2 ways in air RB, as an interceptor and as a bomber. In bomb runs the plane is extremely vulnerable to enemy interceptors. Its most common threats are Mig 21s, Mig 19s and F-104s since this are the fastest and carry missiles that can exploit the lack of countermeasures of the Vautour IIA. In this scenarios, pilots should look at the map, and then, go to the opposite side to which the enemy airfield is pointed, since in almost all matches airfields are pointed to the left or the right. The best combination in order to retain some air to air capabilities and destroy a full base is a custom loadout of: 6 x 360/50 kg G.P. bombs, 2 x 500/50 kg G.P. bombs and 2 shafrir missiles. Once the bombs are released turn back to the safety of your team and use the missiles to kill any enemy distracted, help a teammate or kill any AI planes.''
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'''Air Realistic Battles - Interceptor'''
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''When used as an interceptor, players can exploit their air spawn and the missiles best performance at high altitudes, stay back and behind your team. Once the fight starts and enemies are slow and distracted, launch missiles to the most dangerous targets, mainly planes without flares like Mig 21s and Mig 19s. Missiles have best performance at high altitudes, meaning that they will travel further and retain speed more easily tanks to the altitude advantage.''
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'''Air Arcade Battles'''
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''Use in AB is not recommended, because it may face BVR missiles and powerfull planes, like the F-5C, F-4F and Mig-21MF that will have a great advantage of speed and range against the vautour, however pilots best opportunities in this battles are to climb at 10.000m and use the bomb mark of arcade battles to know when to drop the bombs''
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'''Simulator Battles'''
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''In SB the Vautour IIA is even less recommended, this is due to a lack of radar, bomb bay, or any sort of ballistics computer, that means that pilots would have to get really close to the bases in order to drop the bombs, wich will result in a lot of deaths to the SPAA protecting the bases, or even crashing to the ground due to lackluster vertical performance at high speeds.'' And of course, use as an interceptor is not possible, this is because the Vautour IIA lacks radar, so it would not be capable of atacking enemy aircrafts with ease.
  
 
=== Pros and cons ===
 
=== Pros and cons ===
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'''Pros:'''
 
'''Pros:'''
  
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* Effective DEFA cannons for fighting air targets
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* Good DEFA cannons for fighting air targets
 
* Wide variety of bomb and rocket payloads for ground targets
 
* Wide variety of bomb and rocket payloads for ground targets
 
* Has Shafrir missiles for possible self-defense against air targets
 
* Has Shafrir missiles for possible self-defense against air targets
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* Gets an air spawn like other bombers
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* Decent maneuverability and energy retention for a bomber
  
 
'''Cons:'''
 
'''Cons:'''
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* Bomb load is pretty inadequate, may have issues destroying multiple bases
 
* Bomb load is pretty inadequate, may have issues destroying multiple bases
 
* Shafrir missiles are not very manoeuvrable against fighter targets
 
* Shafrir missiles are not very manoeuvrable against fighter targets
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* Has no bomber sight
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* Has no bomber sight or ballistic computer
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* Common encounters with higher tier jets equipped with guided missiles
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* High compression at speeds above 1050 KM/h
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* Guns are pretty inaccurate without upgrades installed
  
 
== History ==
 
== History ==
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'''Videos'''
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{{Youtube-gallery|P_Mc3U9ShNE&t|"The Vautours Are Literal Trash - War Thunder" - "TheEuropeanCanadian"}} {{Youtube-gallery|1=5mGV-nI6AH8&t=88s|2="The FLYING COFFINS! Vautour IIA & Vautour IIN - Israel - War Thunder Review!" - "Jengar"
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== See also ==
 
== See also ==
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* [[Vautour (Family)]]
 
* [[Vautour (Family)]]
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* [[Vautour IIN (Israel)|Vautour IIN]]
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* [[S.O.4050 Vautour IIA]]
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* [[S.O.4050 Vautour IIB]]
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* [[S.O.4050 Vautour IIN]]
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* [[S.O.4050 Vautour IIN (late)]]
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* [[Vautour IIA IDF/AF]]
  
 
== External links ==
 
== External links ==

Revision as of 07:52, 24 July 2023

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This page is about the jet bomber Vautour IIA (Israel). For other versions, see Vautour (Family).
Vautour IIA
so_4050_vautour_2a_israel_iaf.png
GarageImage Vautour IIA (Israel).jpg
Vautour IIA
Israel flag.png Israel
VI Rank
Battle rating:
AB RB SB
9.7 9.0 9.0
Class:
Research:160 000 Specs-Card-Exp.png
Purchase:450 000 Specs-Card-Lion.png
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Description

The Vautour IIA is a rank VI Israeli jet bomber with a battle rating of 9.7 (AB) and 9.0 (RB/SB). It was introduced in Update "Winged Lions".

General info

Flight performance

Air brakes
Allows you to dramatically reduce the flight speed by releasing special flaps
Drogue parachute
Reduces braking distance when landing on any runway
Max speed
at 0 m1 100 km/h
Turn time32 s
Max altitude15 000 m
Engine2 х SNECMA Atar 101E3
TypeJet
Cooling systemAir
Take-off weight21 t
Characteristics Max Speed
(km/h at 0 m - sea level) 		Max altitude
(metres) 		Turn time
(seconds) 		Rate of climb
(metres/second) 		Take-off run
(metres)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
Stock 1,093 1,091 15000 32.6 33.2 43.0 41.1 900
Upgraded 1,106 1,100 31.4 32.0 62.7 52.0

Details

Features
Combat flaps Take-off flaps Landing flaps Air brakes Arrestor gear Drogue chute
✓ ✓ ✓ ✓ X ✓
Limits
Wings (km/h) Gear (km/h) Flaps (km/h) Max Static G
Combat Take-off Landing + -
1,166 425 584 564 463 ~7 ~3
Optimal velocities (km/h)
Ailerons Rudder Elevators Radiator
< 480 < 620 < 590 N/A

Engine performance

Engine Aircraft mass
Engine name Number Empty mass Wing loading (full fuel)
SNECMA Atar 101E3 2 11,000 kg 316 kg/m2
Engine characteristics Mass with fuel (no weapons load) Max Takeoff
Weight
Weight (each) Type 8m fuel 20m fuel 27m fuel
950 kg Axial-flow turbojet 11,974 kg 13,388 kg 14,213 kg 21,000 kg
Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB / SB) Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (100%)
Condition 100% WEP 8m fuel 20m fuel 27m fuel MTOW
Stationary 3,293 kgf N/A 0.55 0.49 0.46 0.31
Optimal 3,595 kgf
(1,100 km/h) 		N/A 0.60 0.54 0.51 0.34

Survivability and armour

Crew1 person
Speed of destruction
Structural0 km/h
Gear425 km/h

Examine the survivability of the aircraft. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, whether the fuel tanks are armoured, etc. Describe the armour, if there is any, and also mention the vulnerability of other critical aircraft systems.

Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference
AB2 811 → 3 820 Sl icon.png
RB10 703 → 14 545 Sl icon.png
SB15 618 → 21 224 Sl icon.png
Total cost of modifications140 900 Rp icon.png
221 000 Sl icon.png
Talisman cost2 400 Ge icon.png
Crew training130 000 Sl icon.png
Experts450 000 Sl icon.png
Aces2 200 Ge icon.png
Research Aces890 000 Rp icon.png
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
100 / 260 / 600 % Sl icon.png
214 / 214 / 214 % Rp icon.png
Modifications
Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
Mods aerodinamic fuse.png
Fuselage repair
Research:
7 100 Rp icon.png
Cost:
11 000 Sl icon.png
330 Ge icon.png
Mods jet compressor.png
Compressor
Research:
6 400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
10 000 Sl icon.png
300 Ge icon.png
Mods booster.png
New boosters
Research:
6 400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
10 000 Sl icon.png
300 Ge icon.png
Mods aerodinamic wing.png
Wings repair
Research:
7 100 Rp icon.png
Cost:
11 000 Sl icon.png
330 Ge icon.png
Mods jet engine.png
Engine
Research:
7 100 Rp icon.png
Cost:
11 000 Sl icon.png
330 Ge icon.png
Mods g suit.png
G-suit
Research:
15 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
24 000 Sl icon.png
700 Ge icon.png
Mods armor frame.png
Airframe
Research:
6 400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
10 000 Sl icon.png
300 Ge icon.png
Mods armor cover.png
Cover
Research:
15 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
24 000 Sl icon.png
700 Ge icon.png
Mods ammo.png
aden_belt_pack
Research:
7 100 Rp icon.png
Cost:
11 000 Sl icon.png
330 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 1.png
Mods pilon rocket.png
Matra T10 140
Research:
7 100 Rp icon.png
Cost:
11 000 Sl icon.png
330 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods pilon bomb.png
250/50 G.P.
Research:
7 100 Rp icon.png
Cost:
11 000 Sl icon.png
330 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods pilon rocket.png
Matra T10 151
Research:
6 400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
10 000 Sl icon.png
300 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods pilon bomb.png
360/50 G.P.
Research:
6 400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
10 000 Sl icon.png
300 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods weapon.png
aden_new_gun
Research:
7 100 Rp icon.png
Cost:
11 000 Sl icon.png
330 Ge icon.png
Mods pilon block rocket.png
Matra SNEB
Research:
7 100 Rp icon.png
Cost:
11 000 Sl icon.png
330 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods pilon bomb.png
500/50 G.P.
Research:
7 100 Rp icon.png
Cost:
11 000 Sl icon.png
330 Ge icon.png
Mods air to air missile.png
Shafrir
Research:
15 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
24 000 Sl icon.png
700 Ge icon.png

Armaments

Offensive armament

Main article: DEFA 551 (30 mm)

The Vautour IIA (Israel) is armed with:

  • 4 x 30 mm DEFA 551 cannons, nose-mounted (100 rpg = 400 total)

Suspended armament

Main articles: 100/50 kg G.P. (100 kg), 250/50 kg G.P. (250 kg), 360/50 kg G.P. (360 kg), 500/50 kg G.P. (500 kg)
Main articles: Shafrir, SNEB type 23, T10 140, T10 151

The Vautour IIA (Israel) can be outfitted with the following ordnance presets:

  • 10 x 100/50 kg G.P. bombs (1,000 kg total)
  • 4 x Shafrir missiles
  • 76 x SNEB type 23 rockets
  • 24 x T10 140 rockets
  • 24 x T10 151 rockets
  • 10 x 250/50 kg G.P. bombs (2,500 kg total)
  • 10 x 360/50 kg G.P. bombs (3,600 kg total)
  • 6 x 500/50 kg G.P. bombs (3,000 kg total)

Custom loadout options

1 2 3 4 5
Hardpoints S.O.4050 Vautour IIA.png
100/50 kg G.P. bombs 1 1 6 1 1
250/50 kg G.P. bombs 1 1 6 1 1
360/50 kg G.P. bombs 1 1 6 1 1
500/50 kg G.P. bombs 1 1 2 1 1
SNEB type 23 rockets 19 19 19 19
T10 140 rockets 6 6 6 6
T10 151 rockets 6 6 6 6
Shafrir missiles 1 1 1 1

Usage in battles

Air Realistic Battles - Bomber

The Vautour IIA can be used in 2 ways in air RB, as an interceptor and as a bomber. In bomb runs the plane is extremely vulnerable to enemy interceptors. Its most common threats are Mig 21s, Mig 19s and F-104s since this are the fastest and carry missiles that can exploit the lack of countermeasures of the Vautour IIA. In this scenarios, pilots should look at the map, and then, go to the opposite side to which the enemy airfield is pointed, since in almost all matches airfields are pointed to the left or the right. The best combination in order to retain some air to air capabilities and destroy a full base is a custom loadout of: 6 x 360/50 kg G.P. bombs, 2 x 500/50 kg G.P. bombs and 2 shafrir missiles. Once the bombs are released turn back to the safety of your team and use the missiles to kill any enemy distracted, help a teammate or kill any AI planes.

Air Realistic Battles - Interceptor

When used as an interceptor, players can exploit their air spawn and the missiles best performance at high altitudes, stay back and behind your team. Once the fight starts and enemies are slow and distracted, launch missiles to the most dangerous targets, mainly planes without flares like Mig 21s and Mig 19s. Missiles have best performance at high altitudes, meaning that they will travel further and retain speed more easily tanks to the altitude advantage.

Air Arcade Battles

Use in AB is not recommended, because it may face BVR missiles and powerfull planes, like the F-5C, F-4F and Mig-21MF that will have a great advantage of speed and range against the vautour, however pilots best opportunities in this battles are to climb at 10.000m and use the bomb mark of arcade battles to know when to drop the bombs

Simulator Battles

In SB the Vautour IIA is even less recommended, this is due to a lack of radar, bomb bay, or any sort of ballistics computer, that means that pilots would have to get really close to the bases in order to drop the bombs, wich will result in a lot of deaths to the SPAA protecting the bases, or even crashing to the ground due to lackluster vertical performance at high speeds. And of course, use as an interceptor is not possible, this is because the Vautour IIA lacks radar, so it would not be capable of atacking enemy aircrafts with ease.

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Good DEFA cannons for fighting air targets
  • Wide variety of bomb and rocket payloads for ground targets
  • Has Shafrir missiles for possible self-defense against air targets
  • Gets an air spawn like other bombers
  • Decent maneuverability and energy retention for a bomber

Cons:

  • Bomb load is pretty inadequate, may have issues destroying multiple bases
  • Shafrir missiles are not very manoeuvrable against fighter targets
  • Has no bomber sight or ballistic computer
  • High compression at speeds above 1050 KM/h
  • Guns are pretty inaccurate without upgrades installed

History

The Vautour IIA was a jet bomber ordered by the French Army as a jet bomber with low level attack and the ability to operate in all weather. France and Israel worked together on defense, such as on nuclear, aviation, and research for armaments. Israel was motivated to buy the Vautour to counteract the Egyptian IL-28, purchased from the Soviet Union. A total of 30 IIAs were produced, with 25 going to Israel.[1]

The IIA was a single-seat, long-range attack aircraft armed with cannons and bombs. It was operated by the "Knights of the Heart" squadron out of Ramat David Airbase. The Vautour was used as aerial reconnaissance during the Six-Day War, as well as later in the 1960s. They were replaced by the A-4 Skyhawk and the F4-E Phantom II. The Vautour was retired in 1972, with the "Knights of the Heart" division replacing them with the Skyhawk.

Media

Skins

Videos

EmbedVideo received the bad id "P_Mc3U9ShNE&t" for the service "youtube".
"The Vautours Are Literal Trash - War Thunder" - "TheEuropeanCanadian"
EmbedVideo received the bad id "5mGV-nI6AH8&t=88s" for the service "youtube".
"The FLYING COFFINS! Vautour IIA & Vautour IIN - Israel - War Thunder Review!" - "Jengar" First part of the video reviews the Vautour IIA

See also

Related development

External links

References

  1. ↑ "Sud-Ouest S.O. 4050 Vautour." IAF Aircraft Inventory. Jewish Virtual Library. Accessed September 27, 2022. https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/sud-ouest-s-o-4050-vautour.


SNCA SO (Société nationale des constructions aéronautiques du sud-ouest)
Fighters  S.O.8000 Narval
Jet Fighters  S.O.4050 Vautour IIN (late)
Jet Bombers  S.O.4050 Vautour IIA · S.O.4050 Vautour IIB · S.O.4050 Vautour IIN
Export  Vautour IIA IDF/AF · Vautour IIA · Vautour IIN

Israel jet aircraft
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USA 
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