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== Usage in battles ==
 
== Usage in battles ==
 
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repair cost is extreme for its posibilites even it it loses litle speed on turns once it loses it all it wil lbe dead anyway as engine does not alow to regain speed in time
 
  
 
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'''Pros:'''
 
'''Pros:'''
  
* bombs
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* Can carry bombs
 
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* Gets an airspawn on some maps
* if airfields are too short it will spawn already above airfield with speed around 660 km/h
 
 
 
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'''Cons:'''
 
'''Cons:'''
  
* Slowest plane ever on its br
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* Rather slow, can be outrun by even the early jet bombers
* Cant outrurn even bombers when stock
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* 12.7 mm armament does not do enough damage in the short engagement windows of jet dogfights
* Cant catch jet-bombers by any method unles diving from air to get temporary speed
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* Fragile, any 20+ mm calibre cannons will shred the aircraft if they hit
* often uptiered making you to fight with planes of 9.0 and above lika Vanatour that simply can go 1100 km/h making them absolutly inacesable as that plane cant reach its top speed before maps ends
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* Elevator locks up heavily above 600 km/h
* extremly weeak armament 12.7 mm best it can is damage wings or single engine before enemy accelerates away or outrurns you
 
* 30 m fuel is a max when stock consider that you lose around 7 m fuel to get into middle of map
 
* fragile most enemies has minimum 20+ mm canons that will shread you
 
* most it can pull is 8 G reliably when stock from dive archived 1000 km/h after than max it can go is 5 G when 600 km/h and less considered 500 km/h makes you a absolute brick
 
 
 
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== History ==
 
== History ==

Revision as of 10:33, 27 December 2020

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GarageImage F-84F (France).jpg
▄F-84F
AB RB SB
9.0 8.3 8.7
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Description

The ▄F-84F Thunderstreak is a rank VI French jet fighter with a battle rating of 9.0 (AB), 8.3 (RB), and 8.7 (SB). It was introduced in Update "Hot Tracks".

General info

Flight performance

Air brakes
Allows you to dramatically reduce the flight speed by releasing special flaps
Drogue parachute
Reduces braking distance when landing on any runway
Max speed
at 0 m1 102 km/h
Turn time28 s
Max altitude12 500 m
EngineWright J65-W-7
TypeJet
Cooling systemAir
Take-off weight9 t
Characteristics Max Speed
(km/h at 0 m - sea level)
Max altitude
(metres)
Turn time
(seconds)
Rate of climb
(metres/second)
Take-off run
(metres)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
Stock 1,089 1,066 12500 29.9 31.2 31.1 29.2 3,000
Upgraded 1,111 1,102 26.3 28.0 45.5 38.0

Details

Features
Combat flaps Take-off flaps Landing flaps Air brakes Arrestor gear Drogue chute
X
Limits
Wings (km/h) Gear (km/h) Flaps (km/h) Max Static G
Combat Take-off Landing + -
1187 417 550 550 420 ~10 ~3
Optimal velocities (km/h)
Ailerons Rudder Elevators Radiator
< 630 < 600 < 650 N/A

Engine performance

Engine Aircraft mass
Engine name Number Basic Mass Wing loading (full fuel)
Wright J65-W-7 1 7,057 kg 192 kg/m2
Engine characteristics Mass with fuel (no weapons load) Max Takeoff
Weight
Weight (each) Type 9m fuel 20m fuel 30m fuel
1,260 kg Axial-flow turbojet 7,567 kg 8,190 kg 8,757 kg 8,935 kg
Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB / SB) Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (100%)
Condition 100% WEP 9m fuel 20m fuel 30m fuel MTOW
Stationary 3,470 kgf N/A 0.46 0.42 0.40 0.39
Optimal 3,470 kgf
(0 km/h)
N/A 0.46 0.42 0.40 0.39

Survivability and armour

Crew1 person
Speed of destruction
Structural1 187 km/h
Gear417 km/h

Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference
AB2 902 → 3 920 Sl icon.png
RB8 501 → 11 484 Sl icon.png
SB10 207 → 13 789 Sl icon.png
Total cost of modifications120 400 Rp icon.png
194 000 Sl icon.png
Talisman cost2 300 Ge icon.png
Crew training110 000 Sl icon.png
Experts380 000 Sl icon.png
Aces2 000 Ge icon.png
Research Aces830 000 Rp icon.png
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
110 / 310 / 600 % Sl icon.png
208 / 208 / 208 % Rp icon.png
Modifications
Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
Mods aerodinamic fuse.png
Fuselage repair
Research:
4 800 Rp icon.png
Cost:
7 600 Sl icon.png
250 Ge icon.png
Mods jet compressor.png
Compressor
Research:
4 800 Rp icon.png
Cost:
7 600 Sl icon.png
250 Ge icon.png
Mods booster.png
New boosters
Research:
6 800 Rp icon.png
Cost:
11 000 Sl icon.png
350 Ge icon.png
Mods aerodinamic wing.png
Wings repair
Research:
7 500 Rp icon.png
Cost:
12 000 Sl icon.png
390 Ge icon.png
Mods jet engine.png
Engine
Research:
7 500 Rp icon.png
Cost:
12 000 Sl icon.png
390 Ge icon.png
Mods g suit.png
G-suit
Research:
9 800 Rp icon.png
Cost:
16 000 Sl icon.png
510 Ge icon.png
Mods armor frame.png
Airframe
Research:
6 800 Rp icon.png
Cost:
11 000 Sl icon.png
350 Ge icon.png
Mods armor cover.png
Cover
Research:
9 800 Rp icon.png
Cost:
16 000 Sl icon.png
510 Ge icon.png
Mods ammo.png
bmg50_belt_pack
Research:
4 800 Rp icon.png
Cost:
7 600 Sl icon.png
250 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 1.png
Mods napalm fire bomb.png
BLU-1
Research:
4 800 Rp icon.png
Cost:
7 600 Sl icon.png
250 Ge icon.png
Mods pilon bomb.png
Mk81
Research:
4 800 Rp icon.png
Cost:
7 600 Sl icon.png
250 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods pilon rocket.png
FRC mk.2
Research:
6 800 Rp icon.png
Cost:
11 000 Sl icon.png
350 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 1.png
Mods pilon bomb.png
Mk82
Research:
6 800 Rp icon.png
Cost:
11 000 Sl icon.png
350 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods weapon.png
bmg50_new_gun
Research:
7 500 Rp icon.png
Cost:
12 000 Sl icon.png
390 Ge icon.png
Mods pilon bomb.png
Mk83
Research:
7 500 Rp icon.png
Cost:
12 000 Sl icon.png
390 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods pilon block rocket.png
Aero X-6A
Research:
9 800 Rp icon.png
Cost:
16 000 Sl icon.png
510 Ge icon.png
Mods pilon bomb.png
Mk84
Research:
9 800 Rp icon.png
Cost:
16 000 Sl icon.png
510 Ge icon.png

Armaments

Offensive armament

Main article: M3 Browning (12.7 mm)

The F-84F (France) is armed with:

  • 4 x 12.7 mm M3 Browning machine guns, nose-mounted (300 rpg = 1,200 total)
  • 2 x 12.7 mm M3 Browning machine guns, wing-mounted (300 rpg = 600 total)

Suspended armament

Main articles: FFAR Mighty Mouse, HVAR

The F-84F (France) can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

  • Without load
  • 12 x HVAR rockets (inner pylons)
  • 12 x HVAR rockets (outer pylons)
  • 24 x HVAR rockets
  • 42 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets
  • 4 x 250 lb LDGP Mk 81 bombs (1,000 lb total)
  • 4 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs (2,000 lb total)
  • 4 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs (4,000 lb total)
  • 2 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs (4,000 lb total)

Usage in battles

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Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Can carry bombs
  • Gets an airspawn on some maps

Cons:

  • Rather slow, can be outrun by even the early jet bombers
  • 12.7 mm armament does not do enough damage in the short engagement windows of jet dogfights
  • Fragile, any 20+ mm calibre cannons will shred the aircraft if they hit
  • Elevator locks up heavily above 600 km/h

History

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Devblog

In the late 1940’s, the manufacturer ‘Republic’ sought to improve the performance of the F-84 in order to bring it closer in line with the F-86 Sabre. As a result, it developed a new variant of the Thunderjet, designated F-84F. The new aircraft featured, among other changes, a new swept wing and a more powerful engine than its predecessor. Although Republic initially intended the new aircraft to be an extensive modernization of the base F-84, possessing a high degree of part compatibility with preceding variants, in the end, only less than 20% of the parts were interchangeable, resulting in the F-84F Thunderstreak becoming its own independent design.

Following its maiden flight in the early 1950’s, the F-84F was ordered into production. However, the USAF focus on strategic bombers at the time resulted in some critical component manufacturing processes being prioritized for bomber production, ultimately leading to a staggered production start of the new F-84F. 

The Thunderstreak officially entered service with the USAF in 1954, but was quickly phased out of active service due to engine issues before being reactivated in the early 1960’s as tensions between the two superpowers began to rise again. Ultimately, the F-84F kept flying under American colors well into the early 1970’s before finally being retired as newer aircraft replaced the Thunderstreak in active service.

The F-84F was also widely exported to NATO members. Chiefly among them were Germany, France, Italy, Belgium, Greece, China, the Netherlands as well as others. In total, well over 2,100 F-84F Thunderstreaks were built, with the Greek Air Force being the last to retire their F-84Fs in 1991.

Media

See also

Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:

  • reference to the series of the aircraft;
  • links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.

External links


France jet aircraft
Fighters  M.D.450B Ouragan · M.D.450B Barougan · M.D.452 IIA · M.D.452 IIC · Mystere IVA · Super Mystere B2
  ▄F-86K · ▄F-100D · ▄F-8E(FN)
  Mirage IIIC · Mirage IIIE · Milan · Mirage 5F · Mirage 2000C-S4 · Mirage 2000C-S5 · Mirage 2000-5F · Mirage 4000
  Mirage F1C · Mirage F1C-200 · Mirage F1CT
Strike aircraft  ▄F-84F · F-84F IAF · ▄F-84G-26-RE
  Etendard IVM · Super Etendard · Alpha Jet E
  Jaguar A · Jaguar E · Mirage 2000D-R1 · Mirage 2000D-RMV
Bombers  S.O.4050 Vautour IIA · Vautour IIA IDF/AF · S.O.4050 Vautour IIB · S.O.4050 Vautour IIN · S.O.4050 Vautour IIN (late)
Belgium  ▄Meteor F Mk.8 · ▄Mirage 5BA · ▄F-104G · ▄F-16A · ▄F-16AM
Netherlands  ◘Sea Hawk Mk.50 · ◘Hunter F.6