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− | The '''{{specs|name}}''' | + | The '''{{specs|name}}'''was a cavalry tank designed and fielded during the pre-war period. The tank fielded the same 47 mm SA 34 gun used by the Char B1, and was used on mainland France between 1936 and 1937. The tank was considered poorly armoured, even for a cavalry tank, and was re-armed with a 20mm gun turret and shipped to North Africa. The vehicle was later replaced by the H.39 in late 1939. It should be noted, that the earlier Char D1 and early Char D2 infantry tanks did saw wide service, sharing the same gun as the AMC.34 but in in a different body, with increased armour at the cost of mobility, 160 D1s were built and served in North Africa. |
− | + | It was introduced in [[Update 1.75 "La Résistance"]]. While originally a reserve vehicle, it was later superseded in status as a reserve vehicle in [[Update 1.93 "Shark Attack"]] by the AMD.35. It features a well-armoured turret on a fragile chassis with a subpar SA34 L/30 cannon as the main armament. The vehicle features mediocre mobility, armour and firepower. The turret is well armoured, but with such a big chassis, is easy to get shot at the front or the sides. Aside from that, its SA 34 cannon has a very poor reload speed, lower than most tanks around its BR, and with 27mm of penetration at point blank ranges, the vehicle is not beginner friendly at all, and can be considered inferior to most rank I tanks. It requires great skill and map knowledge to be used with effectiveness, try to engage at close quarters and with allied support for increased chances of survival. | |
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Revision as of 03:09, 25 February 2024
Contents
Description
The Automitrailleuse de Combat AMC.34 YRwas a cavalry tank designed and fielded during the pre-war period. The tank fielded the same 47 mm SA 34 gun used by the Char B1, and was used on mainland France between 1936 and 1937. The tank was considered poorly armoured, even for a cavalry tank, and was re-armed with a 20mm gun turret and shipped to North Africa. The vehicle was later replaced by the H.39 in late 1939. It should be noted, that the earlier Char D1 and early Char D2 infantry tanks did saw wide service, sharing the same gun as the AMC.34 but in in a different body, with increased armour at the cost of mobility, 160 D1s were built and served in North Africa.
It was introduced in Update 1.75 "La Résistance". While originally a reserve vehicle, it was later superseded in status as a reserve vehicle in Update 1.93 "Shark Attack" by the AMD.35. It features a well-armoured turret on a fragile chassis with a subpar SA34 L/30 cannon as the main armament. The vehicle features mediocre mobility, armour and firepower. The turret is well armoured, but with such a big chassis, is easy to get shot at the front or the sides. Aside from that, its SA 34 cannon has a very poor reload speed, lower than most tanks around its BR, and with 27mm of penetration at point blank ranges, the vehicle is not beginner friendly at all, and can be considered inferior to most rank I tanks. It requires great skill and map knowledge to be used with effectiveness, try to engage at close quarters and with allied support for increased chances of survival.
General info
Survivability and armour
The AMC.34 YR fits all definitions of a light tank. It has very little armour and very little space - it can't take a shot. When looking at it frontally, the AMC.34 YR has a big ammo rack on the left, and both crew members on the right, meaning that any shot that penetrates will almost certainly destroy the tank. When looking side-on, the AMC.34 YR has two other ammo racks in the middle, and right behind those, there are crew members (if any of them are taken out, the tank is destroyed); the only way that this tank can survive when shot side-on is if the enemy shoots too far back, where there's only a single fuel tank. However, with short reloads at rank I, the enemy is likely to reload in-time to finish the job.
Generally, the AMC.34 YR can't get shot, if it does - it is destroyed. This is easier to accomplish in realistic battles, where bushes can be used as cover, as well as buildings. However, in arcade battles, the AMC.34 YR has to be played extremely carefully and the player should expect the enemies to know their exact location.
Armour type:
- Cast homogeneous armour (turret, cupola)
- Rolled homogeneous armour (hull)
Armour | Front (Slope angle) | Sides | Rear | Roof |
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Hull | 20 mm (18-24°) Upper plate 20 mm (29°) Lower plate 20 mm (41°) Lower glacis |
18 mm | 10 mm (27°) Top 10 mm Radiator shaft 10 mm (24°) Bottom |
10 mm 5 mm Vents |
Turret | 35 mm Turret front 35 mm Gun mantlet 35 mm (conical) MG port 25 mm (49°) MG cover plate 10+20 mm (cylindrical) Turret ring |
35 mm (6-21°) 10+20 mm (cylindrical) Turret ring |
35 mm (22-26°) 38 mm (22°) Turret hatch 10+20 mm (cylindrical) Turret ring |
30 mm |
Cupola | 35 mm | 30 mm |
Notes:
- Suspension wheels, bogies, and tracks are 15 mm thick
Mobility
Game Mode | Max Speed (km/h) | Weight (tons) | Engine power (horsepower) | Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton) | |||
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Forward | Reverse | Stock | Upgraded | Stock | Upgraded | ||
Arcade | 45 | 7 | 9.7 | 130 | 229 | 13.4 | 23.61 |
Realistic | 41 | 6 | 106 | 120 | 10.93 | 12.37 |
The AMC.34 YR is one of the more mobile rank I French tanks. It can reach speeds of up to 40 km/h when on hard, flat ground and it turns rather well. However, its speed can't be used to avoid enemy fire since the maps at this rank are quite small, and usually enemies are still able to align their shots due to very short reload speeds. Nevertheless, the player should move around the map when playing the AMC.34 YR especially in realistic battles. If the enemies don't know your position, they can't shoot you - and you can't take any chances.
Modifications and economy
Armaments
Main armament
47 mm SA34 L/30 | Turret rotation speed (°/s) | Reloading rate (seconds) | |||||||||||
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Mode | Capacity | Vertical | Horizontal | Stabilizer | Stock | Upgraded | Full | Expert | Aced | Stock | Full | Expert | Aced |
Arcade | 76 | -8°/+12° | ±180° | Shoulder | 14.9 | 20.7 | 25.1 | 27.8 | 29.6 | 7.80 | 6.90 | 6.36 | 6.00 |
Realistic | 9.3 | 11.0 | 13.3 | 14.8 | 15.7 |
Ammunition
Penetration statistics | |||||||
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Ammunition | Type of warhead |
Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm) | |||||
10 m | 100 m | 500 m | 1,000 m | 1,500 m | 2,000 m | ||
Mle1892G | APHE | 27 | 26 | 20 | 15 | 11 | 8 |
Shell details | ||||||||||||
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Ammunition | Type of warhead |
Velocity (m/s) |
Projectile mass (kg) |
Fuse delay (m) |
Fuse sensitivity (mm) |
Explosive mass (TNT equivalent) (g) |
Ricochet | |||||
0% | 50% | 100% | ||||||||||
Mle1892G | APHE | 450 | 1.48 | 1.2 | 6 | 50 | 47° | 60° | 65° |
Ammo racks
Full ammo |
1st rack empty |
2nd rack empty |
3rd rack empty |
Visual discrepancy |
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76 | 53 (+23) | 25 (+51) | 1 (+75) | No |
Note:
- As they are modeled by sets of 4, shells disappear from the rack only after you fire all shells in the set.
Machine guns
7.5 mm MAC 31 | ||||
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Mount | Capacity (Belt) | Fire rate | Vertical | Horizontal |
Coaxial | 1,800 (150) | 551 | N/A | N/A |
The small calibre of the MAC 31 machine gun makes it largely ineffective against all armoured vehicles but the ones with an open compartment. It still can be used to ping targets as a rangefinding help or to mow down minor obstacles blocking your line of sight.
Usage in battles
Play carefully. The AMC.34 YR is the opposite of survivable, so you can't get shot, at all. Your gun will struggle to penetrate early Italian tanks and some German tanks, which you will encounter the most, so learn the weak spots and flank. Below are some strategies that may help you out when operating the AMC.34 YR:
- Hull-down
- With its thickest armour being on the turret, this tank performs fairly well in ambush positions near a choke point: find yourself a rock, trench or hill and poke your turret out. You should have a good view of the battlefield while bouncing most incoming rounds, although don't take your chances and use cover to hide from the enemies. Even if you found a good spot, reposition every now and then since you will be spotted and dealt with in no time.
- Support
- Assisting your allies will be your best use of this tank, whether by breaking tracks/guns of your enemies or by scouting and marking enemies on the map (or calling them out in the chat). Do try to steal targets from your allies, since its the best you can do. However, do keep in mind that your penetration and reload time are awful, never engage anything alone, or without cover nearby, since you will likely be destroyed.
Pros and cons
Pros:
- The APHE shell has good post-penetration damage
- The turret is well armoured and angled
- The MAC 31 machine gun as coaxial MG is good
Cons:
- The cannon has a weak penetration power
- Reload time is twice as slow as any other tanks of similar calibre
- Poor mobility for a light tank
- The armour is overall thin and lacking
- Only 2 crew members are lined up and cramped: easy to disable with a single shot
- The ammo racks are badly placed and prone to detonate when hit
History
The AMC.34 was a pre-war cavalry tank design that was not accepted for wide service, being considered insufficiently armoured. A dozen pre-series vehicles were equipped with the APX1-model turret, also used by the pre-war Char B1 tank and mounting the 47 mm SA 34 gun (as shown in-game), and used by the French 4th Cuirassiers in 1936-37, before being re-armed with 20 mm gun turrets and shipped to the French North African colonies for service there. They are believed to have been all replaced by H.39 tanks and taken out of service in late 1939.
The earlier Char D1 and the early versions of the Char D2 infantry tanks, which shared the same short 47 mm gun (and turret, in the case of the early-production D2) as the in-game AMC.34 but on different vehicle bodies (better armoured than the AMC.34, but also slower), did see wartime service. France produced 160 D1s between 1932 and 1935, which equipped 3 tank battalions in North Africa in 1939. One of these battalions, the 67th, would be recalled to fight in the fall of France. After the French defeat, the Germans allowed the Vichy regime to keep 60 of their remaining D1s in North Africa, where they fought against both the American landings at Oran in late 1942 and the German occupation of Vichy Tunisia around the same time. The estimated 50 early-model D2s that were produced between 1934 and 1936 with the same APX1 turret (later production vehicles of the D2 line would be up-gunned to carry the better 47 mm also found on the in-game Somua and B1 bis) also served during the fall of France, in their case with the 19th Tank Battalion under De Gaulle.
Media
- Skins
- Videos
See also
- Vehicles equipped with the same chassis
External links
France light tanks | |
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AMC.34/35 | AMC.34 YR · AMC.35 (ACG.1) |
H.35/39 | H.35 · H.39 · H.39 "Cambronne" |
AMX-13 | AMX-13 (FL11) · AMX-13-M24 · AMX-13 · AMX-13 (SS.11) · AMX-13-90 · AMX-13 (HOT) |
Wheeled | AML-90 · AMX-10RC · Vextra 105 |
AMD.35 | AMD.35 · AMD.35 (SA35) |
E.B.R. | E.B.R. (1951) · E.B.R. (1954) · E.B.R. (1963) |
Other | FCM.36 · R.35 (SA38) · Char 25t · MARS 15 · VBCI-2 (MCT30) |
Austria | SK-105A2 |
Great Britain | ▄Crusader Mk.II |
Netherlands | CV 9035NL |
USA | LVT-4/40 · ▄M3A3 Stuart |