J-8F

This page is about the Chinese jet fighter J-8F. For the other version, see J-8B.

J-8F

J-8B

J-11

J-8F

J-8B

J-11

China

VIII Rank

Battle rating:

AB	RB	SB
13.0	13.0	13.0

Class:

Fighter

Jet fighter

Research:400 000

Purchase:1 080 000

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Description

The J-8F (Chinese: 歼-8F型歼击机; unified NATO codename: Finback 长须鲸) was the final combat variant of the J-8 series interceptors, built by Shenyang Aircraft Corporation (SAC, 沈飞) from remaining J-8II airframes or by upgrading previous J-8Ds in the mid-2000s. The project traces back to the J-8C (or J-8III) project for domestic avionic upgrades for J-8II: although the unreliable WP-14 engine ruined the whole project, the radar systems were tested rather successfully and marked the completion of a domestic pulse-Doppler radar. By the end of 20th century, the plans for Project 12 (PL-12) were also on schedule for domestic ARH AAM; thus the placeholder aircraft, J-8H, with a new radar joined the PLAAF with PL-11 SARH, while the J-8F with a modified radar based on the former radar and new NATO-equivalent FCS main bus was finalised by 2005 and became a cornerstone of the PLAAF until new interceptors replaced them from June 2022.

Introduced in Update "La Royale", the J-8F is the first domestic Chinese jet with a pulse-Doppler-capable radar, featuring new powerful PL-8 AAMs and the ability to mount missiles on all wing pylons. The jet is also upgraded with new engines with higher thrust, and the J-8II's signature differential elevators for better roll rate. While it is still unable to equip PL-11 SARH missiles due to incompatible radar equipment, the new PL-8 missile and avionics will not disappoint players.

General info

Flight performance

Air brakes

Allows you to dramatically reduce the flight speed by releasing special flaps

Drogue parachute

Reduces braking distance when landing on any runway

Max speed

at 12 000 m2 300 km/h

Turn time27 s

Max altitude16 000 m

Engine2 х Shenyang Liming WP-13B-II

TypeJet

Cooling systemAir

Take-off weight17 t

Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.

Characteristics	Max speed (km/h at _,___ m)		Max altitude (metres)	Turn time (seconds)		Rate of climb (metres/second)		Take-off run (metres)
	AB	RB		AB	RB	AB	RB
Stock	___	___	16000	__._	__._	__._	__._	750
Upgraded	___	___		__._	__._	__._	__._

Details

Features
Combat flaps	Take-off flaps	Landing flaps	Air brakes	Arrestor gear	Drogue chute
X	✓	✓	✓	X	✓

Limits
Wings (km/h)	Gear (km/h)	Flaps (km/h)			Max Static G
		Combat	Take-off	Landing	+	-
0	500	___	___	___	~__	~__

Optimal velocities (km/h)
Ailerons	Rudder	Elevators	Radiator
< ___	< ___	< ___	-

Engine performance

Engine			Aircraft mass
Engine name		Number	Basic mass		Wing loading (full fuel)
Shenyang Liming WP-13B-II		2	_,___ kg		___ kg/m2
Engine characteristics			Mass with fuel (no weapons load)			Max Gross Weight
Weight (each)	Type		_m fuel	__m fuel	__m fuel
___ kg	___		_,___ kg	_,___ kg	_,___ kg	_,___ kg
Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB/SB)			Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (___%/WEP)
Condition	100%	___%/WEP	_m fuel	__m fuel	__m fuel	MGW
Stationary	___ kgf	___ kgf	_.__	_.__	_.__	_.__
Optimal	___ kgf (_ km/h)	___ kgf (_ km/h)	_.__	_.__	_.__	_.__

Survivability and armour

Flares/Chaff

Aircraft countermeasures to distract IR and radar-guided missiles and also AA radar

Crew1 person

Speed of destruction

Structural0 km/h

Gear500 km/h

Like most jets of its era, J-8F still retained certain degree of extra protection due to its late introduction at early 2000s on a rather obsolete airframe; meanwhile some standard equipment like self-sealing tanks are still present.

Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference

AB2 804 → 4 225

RB8 208 → 12 369

SB9 351 → 14 091

Total cost of modifications304 000

462 000

Talisman cost3 100

Crew training310 000

Experts1 080 000

Aces3 400

Research Aces1 280 000

Reward for battleAB / RB / SB

100 / 320 / 540 %

250 / 250 / 250 %

Modifications

Flight performance	Survivability	Weaponry
Compressor Research: 12 000 Cost: 18 000 340 New boosters Research: 17 000 Cost: 26 000 480 Engine Research: 25 000 Cost: 38 000 710	Fuselage repair Research: 12 000 Cost: 18 000 340 Airframe Research: 17 000 Cost: 26 000 480 Wings repair Research: 19 000 Cost: 29 000 540 Cover Research: 25 000 Cost: 38 000 710	Flares/Chaff Research: 12 000 Cost: 18 000 340 ns23_belt_pack Research: 12 000 Cost: 18 000 340 PL-5B Research: 12 000 Cost: 18 000 340 G-suit Research: 17 000 Cost: 26 000 480 HF-6 Research: 17 000 Cost: 26 000 480 ns23_new_gun Research: 19 000 Cost: 29 000 540 Type 250 Research: 19 000 Cost: 29 000 540 PL-8 Research: 19 000 Cost: 29 000 540 EFS Research: 25 000 Cost: 38 000 710 Type 500 Research: 25 000 Cost: 38 000 710

Armaments

Ballistic Computer
CCIP (Guns)	CCIP (Rockets)	CCIP (Bombs)	CCRP (Bombs)	Lead indicator

Offensive armament

The J-8F is armed with:

• A choice between two presets:
  • 1 x 23 mm Type 23-3 cannon, belly-mounted (200 rpg)
  • 1 x 23 mm Type 23-3 cannon + 64 x large calibre countermeasures

Suspended armament

The J-8F can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

	1	2	3	4	5	6	7
250 kg 250-3 bombs		1		6		1
250 kg 250-4 bombs		1		6		1
500 kg 500-3 bombs		1				1
500 kg 500-4 bombs		1				1
Type 90-1 rockets	7	7				7	7
PL-5B missiles	1	1	1		1	1	1
PL-8 missiles	1	1	1		1	1	1

Default weapon presets
Without load 2 x PL-5B missiles 6 x PL-5B missiles 6 x PL-8 missiles 8 x 250 kg 250-3 bombs (2,000 kg total) 8 x 250 kg 250-4 bombs (2,000 kg total) 2 x 500 kg 500-3 bombs (1,000 kg total) 2 x 500 kg 500-4 bombs (1,000 kg total) 28 x Type 90-1 rockets

For players who are very familiar with the loadouts on the J-8B, 85% (6 out of 7) of its available weaponries are identical on both jets, with the PL-8 (licensed Rafael Python-3) being the exception. Due to the lack of radar-guided missiles, some players might find this a huge drawback that they will have to get close enough to enemy jets to even launch IR AAMs at the first place. However, the PL-8 is a game-changer for the J-8F; with not only the best all-aspect locking range among NATO equivalents, J-8F is also equipped with HMD for off-bore launches. A full loadout of 6 x PL-8 can be a nightmare for the enemy team if utilized carefully. The old faithful PL-5B still serves as its stock missiles - although it might be somewhat obsolete at the BR, launches on careless targets can still earn some quick victories.

The ground-attack loadout is totally identical to the J-8B though, with varieties of bombs and rockets at its disposal. Although neither the calibre nor explosive content of the Type 90-1 HEAT rocket is effective for hunting enemy MBTs even with a precise hit, they can still serve as an extra card on hand alongside the -3 series low drag GP bombs or -4 series drag chute retarded bombs. The bombs will certainly be more effective against more valuable targets such as MBTs, while saving rockets for vulnerable SPAA systems and light tanks.

Usage in battles

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Pros and cons

Pros:

• Rather high overall engine thrust
• Equips pulse-Doppler radar with sufficient detection capabilities
• Equipped with HMD for off-bore launches
• 6 powerful PL-8s with very long lock-on range and high overload
• Sufficient payload for occasional ground-attack operations
• Retained the same, if not better manoeuvrability from J-8B
• High top speed

Cons:

• Lacks any form of radar-guided weaponries
• Rather large target due to its long airframe
• Relatively small ammo pool
• Delta wing design and its size bleeds speed severely in manoeuvres

History

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See also

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