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|code=f-84f_france | |code=f-84f_france | ||
− | |images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg | + | |images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}} |
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== Description == | == Description == | ||
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− | + | The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} French jet fighter {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Hot Tracks"]]. | |
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== General info == | == General info == | ||
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%" | {| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="70%" | ||
! rowspan="2" | Characteristics | ! rowspan="2" | Characteristics | ||
− | ! colspan="2" | Max | + | ! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 0 m - sea level) |
! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(metres) | ! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(metres) | ||
! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds) | ! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds) | ||
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! Stock | ! Stock | ||
− | | 1, | + | | 1,089 || 1,066 || rowspan="2" | {{Specs|ceiling}} || 29.9 || 31.2 || 31.1 || 29.2 || rowspan="2" | 3,000 |
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! Upgraded | ! Upgraded | ||
− | | 1,111 || 1,102 || 26. | + | |1,111||1,102||26.3||28.0||45.5||38.0 |
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! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! - | ! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! - | ||
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− | | {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || | + | | {{Specs|destruction|body}} || {{Specs|destruction|gear}} || 550 || 550 || 420 || ~10 || ~3 |
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! colspan="2" | Engine name || Number | ! colspan="2" | Engine name || Number | ||
− | ! colspan="2" | {{Annotation|Basic | + | ! colspan="2" | {{Annotation|Basic Mass|Mass of the aircraft with pilot and engine oil, but no fuel or weapons load}} || colspan="2" | Wing loading (full fuel) |
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| colspan="2" | Wright J65-W-7 || 1 | | colspan="2" | Wright J65-W-7 || 1 | ||
− | | colspan="2" | | + | | colspan="2" | 7,057 kg || colspan="2" | 192 kg/m<sup>2</sup> |
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! colspan="3" | Engine characteristics | ! colspan="3" | Engine characteristics | ||
− | ! colspan="3" | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) || rowspan="2" | Max Takeoff<br>Weight | + | ! colspan="3" | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) || rowspan="2" | Max Takeoff<br />Weight |
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! Weight (each) || colspan="2" | Type | ! Weight (each) || colspan="2" | Type | ||
− | ! | + | ! 9m fuel || 20m fuel || 30m fuel |
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| 1,260 kg || colspan="2" | Axial-flow turbojet | | 1,260 kg || colspan="2" | Axial-flow turbojet | ||
− | | 7, | + | | 7,567 kg || 8,190 kg || 8,757 kg || 8,935 kg |
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− | ! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB/SB)|The maximum thrust produced by each engine, while mounted in the aircraft. NOTE: Thrust varies significantly depending on speed & altitude.}} | + | ! colspan="3" | {{Annotation|Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB / SB)|The maximum thrust produced by each engine, while mounted in the aircraft. NOTE: Thrust varies significantly depending on speed & altitude.}} |
! colspan="4" | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (100%) | ! colspan="4" | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (100%) | ||
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! Condition || 100% || WEP | ! Condition || 100% || WEP | ||
− | ! | + | ! 9m fuel || 20m fuel || 30m fuel || MTOW |
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| ''Stationary'' || 3,470 kgf || N/A | | ''Stationary'' || 3,470 kgf || N/A | ||
− | | 0. | + | | 0.46 || 0.42 || 0.40 || 0.39 |
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− | | ''Optimal'' || 3,470 kgf<br>(0 km/h) || N/A | + | | ''Optimal'' || 3,470 kgf<br />(0 km/h) || N/A |
− | | 0. | + | | 0.46 || 0.42 || 0.40 || 0.39 |
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== Armaments == | == Armaments == | ||
{{Specs-Avia-Armaments}} | {{Specs-Avia-Armaments}} | ||
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{{Specs-Avia-Suspended}} | {{Specs-Avia-Suspended}} | ||
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+ | {{main|LDGP Mk 81 (250 lb)|LDGP Mk 82 (500 lb)|LDGP Mk 83 (1,000 lb)|LDGP Mk 84 (2,000 lb)}} | ||
+ | {{main|FFAR Mighty Mouse|HVAR}} | ||
The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance: | The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance: | ||
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* Without load | * Without load | ||
+ | * 12 x HVAR rockets (inner pylons) | ||
+ | * 12 x HVAR rockets (outer pylons) | ||
* 24 x HVAR rockets | * 24 x HVAR rockets | ||
* 42 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets | * 42 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets | ||
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* 4 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs (4,000 lb total) | * 4 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs (4,000 lb total) | ||
* 2 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs (4,000 lb total) | * 2 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs (4,000 lb total) | ||
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== Usage in battles == | == Usage in battles == | ||
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=== Pros and cons === | === Pros and cons === | ||
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+ | ''Summarise and briefly evaluate the vehicle in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark its pros and cons in the bulleted list. Try not to use more than 6 points for each of the characteristics. Avoid using categorical definitions such as "bad", "good" and the like - use substitutions with softer forms such as "inadequate" and "effective".'' | ||
'''Pros:''' | '''Pros:''' | ||
− | * | + | * bombs |
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− | * | + | * if airfields are too short it will spawn already above airfield with speed around 660 km/h |
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'''Cons:''' | '''Cons:''' | ||
− | * | + | * Slowest plane ever on its br |
− | * | + | * Cant outrurn even bombers when stock |
− | * 12.7 mm | + | * Cant catch jet-bombers by any method unles diving from air to get temporary speed |
− | * | + | * often uptiered making you to fight with planes of 9.0 and above lika Vanatour that simply can go 1100 km/h making them absolutly inacesable as that plane cant reach its top speed before maps ends |
− | * | + | * extremly weeak armament 12.7 mm best it can is damage wings or single engine before enemy accelerates away or outrurns you |
− | + | * 30 m fuel is a max when stock consider that you lose around 7 m fuel to get into middle of map | |
− | * | + | * fragile most enemies has minimum 20+ mm canons that will shread you |
+ | * most it can pull is 8 G reliably when stock from dive archived 1000 km/h after than max it can go is 5 G when 600 km/h and less considered 500 km/h makes you a absolute brick | ||
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== History == | == History == | ||
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=== [[wt:en/news/6990-development-f-84f-thunderstreak-en|Devblog]] === | === [[wt:en/news/6990-development-f-84f-thunderstreak-en|Devblog]] === | ||
− | In the late | + | In the late 1940’s, the manufacturer ‘Republic’ sought to improve the performance of the F-84 in order to bring it closer in line with the F-86 Sabre. As a result, it developed a new variant of the Thunderjet, designated F-84F. The new aircraft featured, among other changes, a new swept wing and a more powerful engine than its predecessor. Although Republic initially intended the new aircraft to be an extensive modernization of the base F-84, possessing a high degree of part compatibility with preceding variants, in the end, only less than 20% of the parts were interchangeable, resulting in the F-84F Thunderstreak becoming its own independent design. |
− | Following its maiden flight in the early | + | Following its maiden flight in the early 1950’s, the F-84F was ordered into production. However, the USAF focus on strategic bombers at the time resulted in some critical component manufacturing processes being prioritized for bomber production, ultimately leading to a staggered production start of the new F-84F. |
− | The Thunderstreak officially entered service with the USAF in 1954, but was quickly phased out of active service due to engine issues before being reactivated in the early | + | The Thunderstreak officially entered service with the USAF in 1954, but was quickly phased out of active service due to engine issues before being reactivated in the early 1960’s as tensions between the two superpowers began to rise again. Ultimately, the F-84F kept flying under American colors well into the early 1970’s before finally being retired as newer aircraft replaced the Thunderstreak in active service. |
The F-84F was also widely exported to NATO members. Chiefly among them were Germany, France, Italy, Belgium, Greece, China, the Netherlands as well as others. In total, well over 2,100 F-84F Thunderstreaks were built, with the Greek Air Force being the last to retire their F-84Fs in 1991. | The F-84F was also widely exported to NATO members. Chiefly among them were Germany, France, Italy, Belgium, Greece, China, the Netherlands as well as others. In total, well over 2,100 F-84F Thunderstreaks were built, with the Greek Air Force being the last to retire their F-84Fs in 1991. | ||
== Media == | == Media == | ||
− | <!-- ''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.'' --> | + | <!-- ''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.'' --><gallery mode="packed" caption="F-84F (France) Devblog Images" heights="150"> |
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File:F-84F (France) WTWallpaper 001.jpg| | File:F-84F (France) WTWallpaper 001.jpg| | ||
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* [[wt:en/news/6990-development-f-84f-thunderstreak-en|[Devblog] F-84F Thunderstreak]] | * [[wt:en/news/6990-development-f-84f-thunderstreak-en|[Devblog] F-84F Thunderstreak]] | ||
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Revision as of 20:34, 26 December 2020
Contents
Description
The ▄F-84F Thunderstreak is a rank VI French jet fighter with a battle rating of 9.0 (AB), 8.3 (RB), and 8.7 (SB). It was introduced in Update "Hot Tracks".
General info
Flight performance
Characteristics | Max Speed (km/h at 0 m - sea level) |
Max altitude (metres) |
Turn time (seconds) |
Rate of climb (metres/second) |
Take-off run (metres) | |||
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AB | RB | AB | RB | AB | RB | |||
Stock | 1,089 | 1,066 | 12500 | 29.9 | 31.2 | 31.1 | 29.2 | 3,000 |
Upgraded | 1,111 | 1,102 | 26.3 | 28.0 | 45.5 | 38.0 |
Details
Features | |||||
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Combat flaps | Take-off flaps | Landing flaps | Air brakes | Arrestor gear | Drogue chute |
✓ | ✓ | ✓ | ✓ | X | ✓ |
Limits | ||||||
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Wings (km/h) | Gear (km/h) | Flaps (km/h) | Max Static G | |||
Combat | Take-off | Landing | + | - | ||
1187 | 417 | 550 | 550 | 420 | ~10 | ~3 |
Optimal velocities (km/h) | |||
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Ailerons | Rudder | Elevators | Radiator |
< 630 | < 600 | < 650 | N/A |
Engine performance
Engine | Aircraft mass | |||||
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Engine name | Number | Basic Mass | Wing loading (full fuel) | |||
Wright J65-W-7 | 1 | 7,057 kg | 192 kg/m2 | |||
Engine characteristics | Mass with fuel (no weapons load) | Max Takeoff Weight | ||||
Weight (each) | Type | 9m fuel | 20m fuel | 30m fuel | ||
1,260 kg | Axial-flow turbojet | 7,567 kg | 8,190 kg | 8,757 kg | 8,935 kg | |
Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB / SB) | Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (100%) | |||||
Condition | 100% | WEP | 9m fuel | 20m fuel | 30m fuel | MTOW |
Stationary | 3,470 kgf | N/A | 0.46 | 0.42 | 0.40 | 0.39 |
Optimal | 3,470 kgf (0 km/h) |
N/A | 0.46 | 0.42 | 0.40 | 0.39 |
Survivability and armour
Modifications and economy
Armaments
Offensive armament
The F-84F (France) is armed with:
- 4 x 12.7 mm M3 Browning machine guns, nose-mounted (300 rpg = 1,200 total)
- 2 x 12.7 mm M3 Browning machine guns, wing-mounted (300 rpg = 600 total)
Suspended armament
The F-84F (France) can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
- Without load
- 12 x HVAR rockets (inner pylons)
- 12 x HVAR rockets (outer pylons)
- 24 x HVAR rockets
- 42 x FFAR Mighty Mouse rockets
- 4 x 250 lb LDGP Mk 81 bombs (1,000 lb total)
- 4 x 500 lb LDGP Mk 82 bombs (2,000 lb total)
- 4 x 1,000 lb LDGP Mk 83 bombs (4,000 lb total)
- 2 x 2,000 lb LDGP Mk 84 bombs (4,000 lb total)
Usage in battles
Don't go for planes thay will kill you with ease research bombs asap start bombing bases or AA guns pray to research it all and go next plane
repair cost is extreme for its posibilites even it it loses litle speed on turns once it loses it all it wil lbe dead anyway as engine does not alow to regain speed in time
Pros and cons
Summarise and briefly evaluate the vehicle in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark its pros and cons in the bulleted list. Try not to use more than 6 points for each of the characteristics. Avoid using categorical definitions such as "bad", "good" and the like - use substitutions with softer forms such as "inadequate" and "effective".
Pros:
- bombs
- if airfields are too short it will spawn already above airfield with speed around 660 km/h
Cons:
- Slowest plane ever on its br
- Cant outrurn even bombers when stock
- Cant catch jet-bombers by any method unles diving from air to get temporary speed
- often uptiered making you to fight with planes of 9.0 and above lika Vanatour that simply can go 1100 km/h making them absolutly inacesable as that plane cant reach its top speed before maps ends
- extremly weeak armament 12.7 mm best it can is damage wings or single engine before enemy accelerates away or outrurns you
- 30 m fuel is a max when stock consider that you lose around 7 m fuel to get into middle of map
- fragile most enemies has minimum 20+ mm canons that will shread you
- most it can pull is 8 G reliably when stock from dive archived 1000 km/h after than max it can go is 5 G when 600 km/h and less considered 500 km/h makes you a absolute brick
History
Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the aircraft in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History) and add a link to it here using the main
template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <ref></ref>
, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <references />
. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under === In-game description ===
, also if applicable).
Devblog
In the late 1940’s, the manufacturer ‘Republic’ sought to improve the performance of the F-84 in order to bring it closer in line with the F-86 Sabre. As a result, it developed a new variant of the Thunderjet, designated F-84F. The new aircraft featured, among other changes, a new swept wing and a more powerful engine than its predecessor. Although Republic initially intended the new aircraft to be an extensive modernization of the base F-84, possessing a high degree of part compatibility with preceding variants, in the end, only less than 20% of the parts were interchangeable, resulting in the F-84F Thunderstreak becoming its own independent design.
Following its maiden flight in the early 1950’s, the F-84F was ordered into production. However, the USAF focus on strategic bombers at the time resulted in some critical component manufacturing processes being prioritized for bomber production, ultimately leading to a staggered production start of the new F-84F.
The Thunderstreak officially entered service with the USAF in 1954, but was quickly phased out of active service due to engine issues before being reactivated in the early 1960’s as tensions between the two superpowers began to rise again. Ultimately, the F-84F kept flying under American colors well into the early 1970’s before finally being retired as newer aircraft replaced the Thunderstreak in active service.
The F-84F was also widely exported to NATO members. Chiefly among them were Germany, France, Italy, Belgium, Greece, China, the Netherlands as well as others. In total, well over 2,100 F-84F Thunderstreaks were built, with the Greek Air Force being the last to retire their F-84Fs in 1991.
Media
See also
Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:
- reference to the series of the aircraft;
- links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.
External links
France jet aircraft | |
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Fighters | M.D.450B Ouragan · M.D.450B Barougan · M.D.452 IIA · M.D.452 IIC · Mystere IVA · Super Mystere B2 |
▄F-86K · ▄F-100D · ▄F-8E(FN) | |
Mirage IIIC · Mirage IIIE · Milan · Mirage 5F · Mirage 2000C-S4 · Mirage 2000C-S5 · Mirage 2000-5F · Mirage 4000 | |
Mirage F1C · Mirage F1C-200 · Mirage F1CT | |
Strike aircraft | ▄F-84F · F-84F IAF · ▄F-84G-26-RE |
Etendard IVM · Super Etendard · Alpha Jet E | |
Jaguar A · Jaguar E · Mirage 2000D-R1 | |
Bombers | S.O.4050 Vautour IIA · Vautour IIA IDF/AF · S.O.4050 Vautour IIB · S.O.4050 Vautour IIN · S.O.4050 Vautour IIN (late) |