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{{About
 
{{About
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|about= premium '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
 
|usage= other uses
 
|usage= other uses
 
|link= AMX-30 (Family)
 
|link= AMX-30 (Family)
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== Description ==
 
== Description ==
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[[File:GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
 
[[File:GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
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The '''{{specs|name}}''' is a gift Rank {{specs|rank}} French medium tank {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.77 "Advancing Storm"]].
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a premium rank {{Specs|rank}} French medium tank {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.77 "Advancing Storm"]] as a bundle vehicle, but was discontinued from the store after the [[wt:en/news/6464-shop-war-thunder-birthday-sale-en|7th Anniversary sale]]. It was later re-released as a premium purchaseable for Golden Eagles {{ge}} after the [[wt:en/news/6907-special-8th-anniversary-of-war-thunder-en|8th Anniversary sale]].
  
 
== General info ==
 
== General info ==
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
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''If necessary use a visual template to indicate the most secure and weak zones of the armour.''-->
 
 
The armour only reaches 190 mm at some angled parts of the front, the turret goes 100mm at best, some rank I vehicles like the Panzer IV E could take you on frontally and easily win.
 
The armour only reaches 190 mm at some angled parts of the front, the turret goes 100mm at best, some rank I vehicles like the Panzer IV E could take you on frontally and easily win.
  
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| Turret || 30-150 mm (0-79°) ''Gun mantlet'' <br> 30 mm (61-75°) ''Turret front top'' || 41.5 mm (19-47°) || 30 mm (1-64°) <br> 20 mm (54-64°) ''Turret underside'' || 20 mm
 
| Turret || 30-150 mm (0-79°) ''Gun mantlet'' <br> 30 mm (61-75°) ''Turret front top'' || 41.5 mm (19-47°) || 30 mm (1-64°) <br> 20 mm (54-64°) ''Turret underside'' || 20 mm
 
|-
 
|-
! Armour !! Sides !! Roof  
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! Armour !! Sides !! Roof
 
|-
 
|-
 
| Cupola || 60 mm || 20 mm
 
| Cupola || 60 mm || 20 mm
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{{tankMobility|abMinHp= 1116|rbMinHp= 637}}
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{{tankMobility|abMinHp=1,116|rbMinHp=637}}
  
 
The mobility, which is good but unexceptional, can be both a blessing and a curse since you will not be able to shoot accurately while on the move due to the proper lack of stabilizer.
 
The mobility, which is good but unexceptional, can be both a blessing and a curse since you will not be able to shoot accurately while on the move due to the proper lack of stabilizer.
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== Armaments ==
 
== Armaments ==
 
=== Main armament ===
 
=== Main armament ===
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{{main|CN-105-F1 (105 mm)}}
 
{{main|CN-105-F1 (105 mm)}}
  
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Like the AMX-30 (1972), it lacks a stabilizer and has incredibly weak side armour, but the excellent HEAT shell, comparable to other nations' HEATFS shells, the reasonable front armour (most tanks will still one-shot you though) and the good mobility make up for it.
 
Like the AMX-30 (1972), it lacks a stabilizer and has incredibly weak side armour, but the excellent HEAT shell, comparable to other nations' HEATFS shells, the reasonable front armour (most tanks will still one-shot you though) and the good mobility make up for it.
  
The HEAT shell is comparable to other nations' HEATFS shells, and has a good penetration amount (400 mm flat), but will often bounce on angled surfaces. When the shell penetrates, it usually causes enough shrapnel to one-shot a tank. In a fight against lightly armoured vehicles, like SPAA, the HEAT round will often cause hull breaks.  
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The HEAT shell is comparable to other nations' HEATFS shells, and has a good penetration amount (400 mm flat), but will often bounce on angled surfaces. When the shell penetrates, it usually causes enough shrapnel to one-shot a tank. In a fight against lightly armoured vehicles, like SPAA, the HEAT round will often cause hull breaks.
  
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
|-
 
! colspan="6" | [[CN-105-F1 (105 mm)|105 mm CN-105-F1]]
 
|-
 
! colspan="3" rowspan="1" style="width:5em" |Capacity
 
! rowspan="1" | Vertical <br> guidance
 
! rowspan="1" | Horizontal <br> guidance
 
! rowspan="1" | Stabilizer
 
|-
 
| colspan="3" | 50 || -8°/+20° || ±180° || N/A
 
 
|-
 
|-
! colspan="6" | Turret rotation speed (°/s)
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! colspan="5" | [[CN-105-F1 (105 mm)|105 mm CN-105-F1]] || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
 
|-
 
|-
! style="width:4em" |Mode
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! Mode !! Capacity !! Vertical !! Horizontal !! Stabilizer
! style="width:4em" |Stock
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! Stock !! Upgraded !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
! style="width:4em" |Upgraded
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! Stock !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
 
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
 
! style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
 
 
|-
 
|-
| ''Arcade'' || 28.56 || 39.53 || 47.00 || 51.48 || 56.47
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! ''Arcade''
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| rowspan="2" | 50 || rowspan="2" | -8°/+20° || rowspan="2" | ±180° || rowspan="2" | N/A || 28.6 || 39.5 || 47.0 || 51.5 || 56.5 || rowspan="2" | 8.71 || rowspan="2" | 7.70 || rowspan="2" | 7.10 || rowspan="2" | 6.70
 
|-
 
|-
| ''Realistic'' || 17.85 || 21.00 || 25.70 || 28.40 || 30.00
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! ''Realistic''
|-
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| 17.9 || 21.0 || 25.7 || 28.4 || 30.0
! colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
 
|-
 
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Stock
 
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
 
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
 
! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
 
|-
 
| 8.71 || 7.7 || 7.1 || 6.70
 
 
|-
 
|-
 
|}
 
|}
  
===== Ammunition =====
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==== Ammunition ====
 
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
 
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
 
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
 
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
 
|-
 
|-
 
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
 
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of <br /> warhead
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! rowspan="2" | Type of<br>warhead
! colspan="6" | '''Penetration''' '''''in mm''''' '''@ 0° Angle of Attack'''
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! colspan="6" | '''Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)'''
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|-
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! 10 m !! 100 m !! 500 m !! 1,000 m !! 1,500 m !! 2,000 m
 
|-
 
|-
! 10m
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| OCC 105 F1 || HEAT || 400 || 400 || 400 || 400 || 400 || 400
! 100m
 
! 500m
 
! 1000m
 
! 1500m
 
! 2000m
 
 
|-
 
|-
| OCC 105 F1 || HEAT || 400 || 400 || 400 || 400 || 400 || 400
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| OE 105 F1 Mle.60 || HE || 25 || 25 || 25 || 25 || 25 || 25
 
|-
 
|-
| OE 105 F1 Mle.60 || HE || 26 || 26 || 25 || 25 || 25 || 25
 
|-
 
 
|}
 
|}
 
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
 
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
! colspan="11" | Shell details
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! colspan="10" | Shell details
 
|-
 
|-
 
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
 
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of <br /> warhead
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! rowspan="2" | Type of<br>warhead
! rowspan="2" |Velocity <br /> in m/s
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! rowspan="2" | Velocity<br>(m/s)
! rowspan="2" |Projectile<br />Mass in kg
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! rowspan="2" | Projectile<br>Mass (kg)
! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse delay''
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! rowspan="2" | Fuse delay<br>(m)
''in m:''
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! rowspan="2" | Fuse sensitivity<br>(mm)
! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse sensitivity''
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! rowspan="2" | Explosive Mass<br>(TNT equivalent) (g)
''in mm:''
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! colspan="3" | Ricochet
! rowspan="2" | ''Explosive Mass in g<br /> (TNT equivalent):''
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|-
! rowspan="2" | ''Normalization At 30° <br> from horizontal:''
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! 0% !! 50% !! 100%
! colspan="3" | ''Ricochet:''
 
 
|-
 
|-
! 0%
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| OCC 105 F1 || HEAT || 1,000 || 10.95 || 0.05 || 0.1 || 1,020 || 62° || 69° || 73°
! 50%
 
! 100%
 
 
|-
 
|-
| OCC 105 F1 || HEAT || 1,000 || 10.95 || 0.0 || 0.1 || 1,020 || +0° || 62° || 69° || 73°
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| OE 105 F1 Mle.60 || HE || 700 || 12.1 || 0 || 0.1 || 2,000 || 79° || 80° || 81°
 
|-
 
|-
| OE 105 F1 Mle.60 || HE || 700 || 12.1 || 0.1 || 0.1 || 2,000 || +0° || 79° || 80° || 81°
 
|-
 
 
|}
 
|}
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center"
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
! colspan="7" | Smoke characteristic
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! colspan="7" | Smoke shell characteristics
 
|-
 
|-
 
! Ammunition
 
! Ammunition
! Velocity <br /> in m/s
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! Velocity<br>(m/s)
! Projectile<br />Mass in kg
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! Projectile<br>Mass (kg)
! ''Screen radius <br /> in m''
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! Screen radius<br>(m)
! ''Screen time <br /> in s''
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! Screen deploy time<br>(s)
! ''Screen hold time <br /> in s:''
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! Screen hold time<br>(s)
! ''Explosive Mass in g<br /> (TNT equivalent):''
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! Explosive Mass<br>(TNT equivalent) (g)
 
|-
 
|-
| OFPH 105 F1 || 700 || 11.4 || 20 || 5 || 25 || 50  
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| OFPH 105 F1 || 700 || 11.4 || 20 || 5 || 25 || 50
 
|-
 
|-
 
|}
 
|}
  
===== [[Ammo racks|Ammo racks]] =====
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==== [[Ammo racks]] ====
[[File:Ammoracks_{{PAGENAME}}.png|right|thumbnail|x250px|Ammo racks of the {{PAGENAME}}.]]The CN-105-F1 cannon fires single-piece ammunition from two stowages, the primary rack found in the rear of the turret, and the secondary rack located in the hull front to the right of the driver.  It'll take the loader about 13 seconds to stock a round into the ready rack from the hull rack.
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<!-- [[File:Ammoracks_{{PAGENAME}}.png|right|thumb|x250px|[[Ammo racks]] of the {{PAGENAME}}]] -->
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center"
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<!-- '''Last updated:''' -->
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
 
|-
 
|-
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Full<br /> ammo
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! Full<br>ammo
! class="wikitable unsortable" |1st<br /> rack empty
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! 1st<br>rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |2nd<br /> rack empty
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! 2nd<br>rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |3rd<br /> rack empty
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! 3rd<br>rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |4th<br /> rack empty
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! 4th<br>rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |5th<br /> rack empty
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! 5th<br>rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |6th<br /> rack empty
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! 6th<br>rack empty
! class="wikitable unsortable" |Visual<br /> discrepancy
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! Visual<br>discrepancy
 
|-
 
|-
|| '''50''' || XX&nbsp;''(X+)'' || &nbsp;''(+)'' || &nbsp;''(+)'' || &nbsp;''(+)'' || &nbsp;''(+)'' || &nbsp;''(+)'' || style="text-align:left" | no
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| '''50''' || __&nbsp;''(+__)'' || __&nbsp;''(+__)'' || __&nbsp;''(+__)'' || __&nbsp;''(+__)'' || __&nbsp;''(+__)'' || __&nbsp;''(+__)'' || __
 
|-
 
|-
 
|}
 
|}
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The CN-105-F1 cannon fires single-piece ammunition from two stowages, the primary rack found in the rear of the turret, and the secondary rack located in the hull front to the right of the driver.  It'll take the loader about 13 seconds to stock a round into the ready rack from the hull rack.
  
 
* Recommended ammo load is 20.  This will leave the hull rack empty and all ready racks filled.
 
* Recommended ammo load is 20.  This will leave the hull rack empty and all ready racks filled.
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=== Machine guns ===
 
=== Machine guns ===
<!--''Offensive and anti-aircraft machine guns not only allow you to fight some aircraft but also are effective against lightly armoured vehicles. Evaluate machine guns and give recommendations on its use.''-->
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{{main|M2HB (12.7 mm)|AAN-F1 (7.62 mm)}}
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{{main|M2HB (12.7 mm)|A-A-F1N (7.62 mm)}}
  
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
|-
 
! colspan="7" | [[M2HB (12.7 mm)|12.7 mm M2HB]]
 
 
|-
 
|-
! colspan="7" | ''Coaxial mount''
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! colspan="5" | [[M2HB (12.7 mm)|12.7 mm M2HB]]
 
|-
 
|-
! colspan="4" rowspan="1" style="width:5em" |Capacity (Belt capacity)
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! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
! rowspan="1" | Fire rate <br> (shots/minute)
 
! rowspan="1" | Vertical <br> guidance
 
! rowspan="1" | Horizontal <br> guidance
 
 
|-
 
|-
| colspan="4" | 800 (200) || 577 || -0°/+20° || N/A
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| Coaxial || 748 (200) || 577 || 0°/+20° || N/A
 
|-
 
|-
 
|}
 
|}
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="50%"
 
|-
 
|-
! colspan="7" | [[AAN-F1 (7.62 mm)|7.62 mm AAN-F1]]
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! colspan="5" | [[A-A-F1N (7.62 mm)|7.62 mm A-A-F1N]]
 
|-
 
|-
! colspan="7" | ''Pintle mount''
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! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
 
|-
 
|-
! colspan="4" rowspan="1" style="width:5em" |Capacity (Belt capacity)
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| Pintle || 2,050 (100) || 900 || -10°/+45° || ±120°
! rowspan="1" | Fire rate <br> (shots/minute)
 
! rowspan="1" | Vertical <br> guidance
 
! rowspan="1" | Horizontal <br> guidance
 
|-
 
| colspan="4" | 2,000 (100) || 900 || -10°/+45° || ±120°
 
 
|-
 
|-
 
|}
 
|}
  
 
== Usage in battles ==
 
== Usage in battles ==
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This tank cannot stand a fight on its own, therefore, only two tactics are viable.
 
This tank cannot stand a fight on its own, therefore, only two tactics are viable.
  
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Compared to the vehicles it will face, the AMX-30 ranges from Inferior to Harmless, every enemy vehicle should be regarded the same way, as major threats that will destroy it in a couple of hits at best. Aiming for the ammunition is the only way for you.
 
Compared to the vehicles it will face, the AMX-30 ranges from Inferior to Harmless, every enemy vehicle should be regarded the same way, as major threats that will destroy it in a couple of hits at best. Aiming for the ammunition is the only way for you.
  
===Modules===
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=== Modules ===
 
{| class="wikitable"
 
{| class="wikitable"
 
! Tier
 
! Tier
! colspan="2" |Mobility
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! colspan="2" | Mobility
 
! Protection
 
! Protection
! colspan="3" |Firepower
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! colspan="3" | Firepower
 
|-
 
|-
 
| I
 
| I
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| Crew Replenishment
 
| Crew Replenishment
 
| Elevation Mechanism
 
| Elevation Mechanism
|Smoke grenade
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| Smoke grenade
 
|
 
|
 
|-
 
|-
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| Transmission
 
| Transmission
 
| Engine
 
| Engine
|  
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|
 
| Artillery Support
 
| Artillery Support
| Laser rangefinder
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| Rangefinder
 
| NVD
 
| NVD
 
|-
 
|-
! colspan="7" |This is a premium vehicle: all modifications are unlocked on purchase
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! colspan="7" | This is a premium vehicle: all modifications are unlocked on purchase
 
|-
 
|-
 
|}
 
|}
  
 
=== Pros and cons ===
 
=== Pros and cons ===
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'''Pros:'''
 
'''Pros:'''
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'''Cons:'''
 
'''Cons:'''
  
* No kinetic ammunition.
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* No kinetic ammunition
 
* Very tall cupola
 
* Very tall cupola
* Only 30-35mm thick side armour
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* Only 30-35 mm thick side armour
 
* Does not have a stabilizer
 
* Does not have a stabilizer
* Lacks the 20mm Autocannon of its tree counterpart, the [[AMX-30 (1972)]]
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* Lacks the 20 mm autocannon of its tree counterpart, the [[AMX-30 (1972)]]
 
* Rear turret bustle is pretty much lathered with ammunition when filled
 
* Rear turret bustle is pretty much lathered with ammunition when filled
 
* Fuel tanks everywhere in hull, front and sides, likely to cause a fire
 
* Fuel tanks everywhere in hull, front and sides, likely to cause a fire
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== History ==
 
== History ==
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== Media ==
 
== Media ==
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== See also ==
 
== See also ==
 
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
 
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
 
 
* ''reference to the series of the vehicles;''
 
* ''reference to the series of the vehicles;''
 
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''
 
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''

Revision as of 12:48, 23 November 2020

Rank VI USSR | Premium | Golden Eagles
Su-25K Pack
AMX-30
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AMX-30
AB RB SB
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This page is about the premium AMX-30. For other uses, see AMX-30 (Family).

Description

GarageImage AMX-30.jpg


The AMX-30 is a premium rank V French medium tank with a battle rating of 8.0 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced in Update 1.77 "Advancing Storm" as a bundle vehicle, but was discontinued from the store after the 7th Anniversary sale. It was later re-released as a premium purchaseable for Golden Eagles Ge icon.png after the 8th Anniversary sale.

General info

Survivability and armour

The armour only reaches 190 mm at some angled parts of the front, the turret goes 100mm at best, some rank I vehicles like the Panzer IV E could take you on frontally and easily win.

Be wary, also, of your ridiculously tall cupola, you can be destroyed even if you are behind cover just because of it.

Armour type:

  • Cast homogeneous armour
  • Rolled homogeneous armour (Hull roof, Hull sides)
Armour Front (Slope angle) Sides Rear Roof
Hull 79 mm (57-68°), 50 mm (52-76°) Front glacis
79 mm (0-57°), 30 mm (75°) Lower glacis
35-57 mm (0-35)
30 mm Bottom
25 mm (70°) Belly
30 mm (10°) Top
30 mm Center
25 mm (70°) Bottom
15 mm
8 mm Engine grille
Turret 30-150 mm (0-79°) Gun mantlet
30 mm (61-75°) Turret front top
41.5 mm (19-47°) 30 mm (1-64°)
20 mm (54-64°) Turret underside
20 mm
Armour Sides Roof
Cupola 60 mm 20 mm

Notes:

  • Suspension wheels are 15 mm thick while tracks are 20 mm thick.

Mobility

Game Mode Max Speed (km/h) Weight (tons) Engine power (horsepower) Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
Forward Reverse Stock Upgraded Stock Upgraded
Arcade 73 73 36 1,116 1,374 31 38.17
Realistic 66 66 637 720 17.69 20

The mobility, which is good but unexceptional, can be both a blessing and a curse since you will not be able to shoot accurately while on the move due to the proper lack of stabilizer.

Armaments

Main armament

Main article: CN-105-F1 (105 mm)

The AMX-30 is a similar tank to its younger counterpart, the AMX-30 (1972), with the 20 mm coaxial autocannon replaced by a 12.7 mm heavy machinegun, still able to deal with lightly armoured targets such as SPAA, but doesn't deal the extra punch of an autocannon.

Like the AMX-30 (1972), it lacks a stabilizer and has incredibly weak side armour, but the excellent HEAT shell, comparable to other nations' HEATFS shells, the reasonable front armour (most tanks will still one-shot you though) and the good mobility make up for it.

The HEAT shell is comparable to other nations' HEATFS shells, and has a good penetration amount (400 mm flat), but will often bounce on angled surfaces. When the shell penetrates, it usually causes enough shrapnel to one-shot a tank. In a fight against lightly armoured vehicles, like SPAA, the HEAT round will often cause hull breaks.

105 mm CN-105-F1 Turret rotation speed (°/s) Reloading rate (seconds)
Mode Capacity Vertical Horizontal Stabilizer Stock Upgraded Full Expert Aced Stock Full Expert Aced
Arcade 50 -8°/+20° ±180° N/A 28.6 39.5 47.0 51.5 56.5 8.71 7.70 7.10 6.70
Realistic 17.9 21.0 25.7 28.4 30.0

Ammunition

Penetration statistics
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
10 m 100 m 500 m 1,000 m 1,500 m 2,000 m
OCC 105 F1 HEAT 400 400 400 400 400 400
OE 105 F1 Mle.60 HE 25 25 25 25 25 25
Shell details
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Velocity
(m/s)
Projectile
Mass (kg)
Fuse delay
(m)
Fuse sensitivity
(mm)
Explosive Mass
(TNT equivalent) (g)
Ricochet
0% 50% 100%
OCC 105 F1 HEAT 1,000 10.95 0.05 0.1 1,020 62° 69° 73°
OE 105 F1 Mle.60 HE 700 12.1 0 0.1 2,000 79° 80° 81°
Smoke shell characteristics
Ammunition Velocity
(m/s)
Projectile
Mass (kg)
Screen radius
(m)
Screen deploy time
(s)
Screen hold time
(s)
Explosive Mass
(TNT equivalent) (g)
OFPH 105 F1 700 11.4 20 5 25 50

Ammo racks

Full
ammo
1st
rack empty
2nd
rack empty
3rd
rack empty
4th
rack empty
5th
rack empty
6th
rack empty
Visual
discrepancy
50 __ (+__) __ (+__) __ (+__) __ (+__) __ (+__) __ (+__) __

The CN-105-F1 cannon fires single-piece ammunition from two stowages, the primary rack found in the rear of the turret, and the secondary rack located in the hull front to the right of the driver. It'll take the loader about 13 seconds to stock a round into the ready rack from the hull rack.

  • Recommended ammo load is 20. This will leave the hull rack empty and all ready racks filled.
  • Ammo racks 1, 2, and 3 are ready racks, and takes priority in being filled at the beginning of the battle, then fills rack 4.
  • Full reload speed will be realized as long as ammo exists in any of the ready racks. If all ready racks are empty, a penalty to reload speed will occur.
  • Simply not firing when the main gun is loaded will load ammo from rack 4 into racks 3, 2, then 1 as long as there is ammo in rack 4. Firing the main gun will interrupt the loading of the ready racks.

Optics and night vision

AMX-30 Optics
Type of optic Magnification Night Vision Devices
Image Intensifier Thermal Imager
Resolution
Notes
Resolution Light Mult Noise Level
Gunner's Sight X6.8 - X8.0 800 x 600 8.0 High Not Fitted Image intensifier unlocked by "NVD" modification (tier 4)
Commander's View X6 800 x 600 8.0 High Not Fitted Image intensifier unlocked by "NVD" modification (tier 4)
Driver's View X1 800 x 600 5.0 High Not Fitted Image intensifier unlocked by "NVD" modification (tier 4)

Machine guns

12.7 mm M2HB
Mount Capacity (Belt) Fire rate Vertical Horizontal
Coaxial 748 (200) 577 0°/+20° N/A
7.62 mm A-A-F1N
Mount Capacity (Belt) Fire rate Vertical Horizontal
Pintle 2,050 (100) 900 -10°/+45° ±120°

Usage in battles

This tank cannot stand a fight on its own, therefore, only two tactics are viable.

First (the most dangerous), you can try getting behind the enemy lines and attacking the SPAA, you will often get hull breaks thanks to the HEAT round, be wary of bushes however, they will stop your HEAT shells, you can attempt to take on enemy tanks, provided it is from the side, and you can hit the ammunition (HEAT will rarely cause fire, and the weak shrapnel makes it hard to take out entire crews).

Second, stay with your team, ideally behind another tank (do not lead the formation, it'll paint a target onto the tank), use your HEAT shells to disable tracks or take out one or two crew members and ease the task of your teammates.

Compared to the vehicles it will face, the AMX-30 ranges from Inferior to Harmless, every enemy vehicle should be regarded the same way, as major threats that will destroy it in a couple of hits at best. Aiming for the ammunition is the only way for you.

Modules

Tier Mobility Protection Firepower
I Tracks Parts Horizontal Drive
II Suspension Brake System FPE Adjustment of Fire OFPH 105 F1
III Filters Crew Replenishment Elevation Mechanism Smoke grenade
IV Transmission Engine Artillery Support Rangefinder NVD
This is a premium vehicle: all modifications are unlocked on purchase

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Moderate front armour
  • Fuel tank armour surrounding frontal ammo rack, much like Cold War Russian tanks
  • The HEAT shell is comparable to other HEATFS shells of contemporary tanks and can theoretically penetrate up to 400 mm on flat armour
  • Fairly good mobility

Cons:

  • No kinetic ammunition
  • Very tall cupola
  • Only 30-35 mm thick side armour
  • Does not have a stabilizer
  • Lacks the 20 mm autocannon of its tree counterpart, the AMX-30 (1972)
  • Rear turret bustle is pretty much lathered with ammunition when filled
  • Fuel tanks everywhere in hull, front and sides, likely to cause a fire
  • HEAT shell will be stopped by any kind of obstacle, which includes (but is not limited to) bushes, trees, fences, wooden houses, etc.

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See also

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