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== Description ==
 
== Description ==
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The '''85 mm ZIS-S-53''' is a Soviet cannon that is mounted on ground vehicles and naval vessels in War Thunder.
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Though the designation differs between "S" and "C", the usage of "C" does not indicate naval usage of the cannon but instead of the phonetic similarities between Cyrillic and English translations. With the letter in the weapon's designation serving as an initial after the weapon's designer A. Savin, the "S" sounds phonetically similar to "C" in the Russian alphabet.
  
 
=== Vehicles equipped with this weapon ===
 
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'''Ground vehicles'''
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* {{Specs-Link|ussr_t_34_85E}}
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* {{Specs-Link|cn_t_34_85_d_5t}}
 
* {{Specs-Link|ussr_t_34_85_zis_53}}
 
* {{Specs-Link|ussr_t_34_85_zis_53}}
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* {{Specs-Link|ussr_t_34_85E}}
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* {{Specs-Link|sw_t_34_85_zis_53}}
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* {{Specs-Link|cn_t_34_85_zis_53_no215}}
 
* {{Specs-Link|ussr_t_44}}
 
* {{Specs-Link|ussr_t_44}}
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'''Naval vessels'''
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* {{Specs-Link|ussr_mkl_186}}
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* {{Specs-Link|ussr_mkl_186_mk85}}
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* {{Specs-Link|ussr_pr_191}}
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* {{Specs-Link|ussr_pr_191m}}
  
 
== General info ==
 
== General info ==
 
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=== Available shells ===
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=== Available ammunition ===
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'''Tank ammunition:'''
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BR-367 shells are available only on T-44.
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{{:{{PAGENAME}}/Ammunition|BR-365K, BR-365A, BR-365P, BR-367, BR-367P, O-365K}}
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'''Naval ammunition:'''
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Naval BR-365 APHEBC shell is almost identical to BR-365A of ground forces. Naval O-365K HE shell has no fuse delay, losing a bit in close-range penetration.
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{{:85 mm/54.6 ZIS-C-53 (85 mm)/Ammunition|85 mm O-365K, 85 mm BR-365}}
  
 
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== History ==
 
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The ZiS-S-53 is a variant of the Red Army's 85 mm air defense gun M1939 (GAU designation 52-K).
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The gun was used on river gunboats such as the [[MBK pr.186]] in the original [[T-34-85]] turret mounts. However, in 1944, TsKB-34 built a specialized turret mount that traded armour for elevation angles. Designated the MK-85 by the Soviet Navy, the turret was used to arm the [[MBK pr.186 (MK 85)|later variants of the MBK pr.186]] along with the [[Pr.191]] boats that began to supplement it. It was also mounted on some of the Pr.30 Bis destroyers after World War II.
  
 
== Media ==
 
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{{Youtube-gallery|LWjiIdzTi_w|'''The Shooting Range #294''' - ''Round Study'' section at 09:15 compares the rounds BR-365A and BR-367.}}
  
 
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{{USSR tank cannons}}
 
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{{China tank cannons}}
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[[Category:Tank cannons]]
 
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[[Category:Naval cannons]]

Latest revision as of 20:15, 3 June 2024

Description

The 85 mm ZIS-S-53 is a Soviet cannon that is mounted on ground vehicles and naval vessels in War Thunder.

Though the designation differs between "S" and "C", the usage of "C" does not indicate naval usage of the cannon but instead of the phonetic similarities between Cyrillic and English translations. With the letter in the weapon's designation serving as an initial after the weapon's designer A. Savin, the "S" sounds phonetically similar to "C" in the Russian alphabet.

Vehicles equipped with this weapon

Ground vehicles

Naval vessels

General info

Tell us about the tactical and technical characteristics of the cannon or machine gun.

Available ammunition

Tank ammunition:

BR-367 shells are available only on T-44.

Penetration statistics
Ammunition Type of
warhead 		Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
10 m 100 m 500 m 1,000 m 1,500 m 2,000 m
BR-365K APHE 148 143 126 106 90 77
BR-365A APHEBC 135 133 124 114 104 95
BR-365P APCR 195 187 154 122 96 76
BR-367 APCBC 164 162 154 143 134 125
BR-367P APCR 208 201 176 148 125 106
O-365K HE 19 18 17 16 15 14
Shell details
Ammunition Type of
warhead 		Velocity
(m/s) 		Projectile
mass (kg) 		Fuse delay
(m) 		Fuse sensitivity
(mm) 		Explosive mass
(TNT equivalent) (g) 		Ricochet
0% 50% 100%
BR-365K APHE 792 9.2 1.2 14 77 47° 60° 65°
BR-365A APHEBC 792 9.2 1.2 14 164 48° 63° 71°
BR-365P APCR 1,050 4.99 - - - 66° 70° 72°
BR-367 APCBC 792 9.2 1.2 14 77 48° 63° 71°
BR-367P APCR 1,020 5.3 - - - 66° 70° 72°
O-365K HE 785 9.54 0.2 0.1 741 79° 80° 81°

Naval ammunition:

Naval BR-365 APHEBC shell is almost identical to BR-365A of ground forces. Naval O-365K HE shell has no fuse delay, losing a bit in close-range penetration.

Penetration statistics
Ammunition Type of
warhead 		Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
100 m 1,000 m 2,000 m 3,000 m 4,000 m 5,000 m
O-365K HE 11 11 11 11 11 11
BR-365 APHEBC 133 112 92 76 63 52
Shell details
Ammunition Type of
warhead 		Velocity
(m/s) 		Projectile
mass (kg) 		Fuse delay
(m) 		Fuse sensitivity
(mm) 		Explosive mass
(TNT equivalent) (g) 		Ricochet
0% 50% 100%
O-365K HE 785 9.54 0 1 741 79° 80° 81°
BR-365 APHEBC 792 9.2 1.2 14 164 48° 63° 71°

Comparison with analogues

Give a comparative description of cannons/machine guns that have firepower equal to this weapon.

Usage in battles

Describe the cannon/machine gun in the game - its distinctive features, tactics of usage against notable opponents. Please don't write a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but give the reader food for thought.

Pros and cons

Summarise and briefly evaluate the weaponry in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark pros and cons as a list.

Pros:

Cons:

History

The ZiS-S-53 is a variant of the Red Army's 85 mm air defense gun M1939 (GAU designation 52-K).

The gun was used on river gunboats such as the MBK pr.186 in the original T-34-85 turret mounts. However, in 1944, TsKB-34 built a specialized turret mount that traded armour for elevation angles. Designated the MK-85 by the Soviet Navy, the turret was used to arm the later variants of the MBK pr.186 along with the Pr.191 boats that began to supplement it. It was also mounted on some of the Pr.30 Bis destroyers after World War II.

Media

Videos
The Shooting Range #294 - Round Study section at 09:15 compares the rounds BR-365A and BR-367.

See also

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  • reference to the article about the variant of the cannon/machine gun;
  • references to approximate analogues by other nations and research trees.

External links

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USSR tank cannons
20 mm  TNSh
30 mm  2A42 · 2A72 · AG-30
45 mm  20-K
57 mm  AU-220 · Ch-51M · ZIS-2 · ZIS-4 · ZIS-4M
73 mm  2A28
76 mm  1902/30 · 3-K · D-56TS · F-32 · F-34 · F-96 · KT-28 · L-10 · L-11 · ZIS-3 · ZIS-5
85 mm  D-5S · D-5T · D-58 · D-70 · F-30 · ZIS-S-53
100 mm  2A48 · 2A70 · D-10S · D-10T · D-10T2S · D-50 · LB-1 · S-34
107 mm  ZIS-6
115 mm  U-5TS
122 mm  A-19 · D-25-44T · D-25S · D-25T · D-25TS · D-30T · D-49 · M-30 · M-62-T2S
125 mm  2A26 · 2A46 · 2A46M · 2A46M-1 · 2A46M-4 · 2A46M-5 · 2A46MS · 2A75 · D-126
130 mm  B-13 · C-70 · M-65
152 mm  2A33 · LP-83 · M-10T · M-64 · M-69 · ML-20S
  Foreign:
37 mm  M5 (USA)
50 mm  KwK L/42 (Germany)
57 mm  6pdr OQF Mk.III (Britain) · M1 (USA)
75 mm  KwK42 (Germany) · M2 (USA)
76 mm  M1 (USA)
85 mm  Type-62-85-TC (China)

China tank cannons
30 mm  ZPL02 · ZPZ02
73 mm  Type 86
76 mm  M32K1
85 mm  Type 56 · Type 63
100 mm  PTP86 · Type 59 · Type 69 · Type 69-II · ZPL04
105 mm  88B-105T · Type 83 · WMA301 · ZPL94 · ZPL98A
120 mm  122TM · PTZ89
125 mm  Type 88C · Type 99A · ZPT98
130 mm  PL59A Gai
152 mm  PL66 Gai
  Foreign:
20 mm  KwK30 (Germany)
37 mm  M6 (USA)
45 mm  20-K (USSR)
47 mm  Type 1 (Japan)
57 mm  Type 97 (Japan) · ZIS-2 (USSR)
75 mm  M2 Howitzer (USA) · M3 (USA) · M6 (USA)
76 mm  D-56T (USSR) · F-34 (USSR) · M1 (USA) · M7 (USA) · ZIS-3 (USSR)
85 mm  ZIS-S-53 (USSR)
90 mm  M3 (USA) · M41 (USA)
100 mm  D-10S (USSR)
105 mm  M68 (USA) · M68A1 (USA)
115 mm  U-5TS (USSR)
122 mm  A-19 (USSR) · D-25T (USSR)
152 mm  ML-20S (USSR)

Sweden tank cannons
20 mm  Akan m/47D · Pvlvkan m/40
37 mm  kan m/38
40 mm  akan m/70B
57 mm  Pvkan m/43
75 mm  kan m/02 · kan m/41 · kan Strv 74 · lvkan m/37 A · pvkan m/43
84 mm  kan Strv 81
90 mm  kan Ikv 91
105 mm  kan Bofors · kan Ikv · kan m/44 · kan Strv 101 · L74
120 mm  automatkanon · CTG · kan Strv 121 · kan Strv 122
150 mm  fsthaub m/02
155 mm  kan m/60
  Foreign:
35 mm  Bushmaster 3 (USA)
73 mm  2A28 (USSR)
75 mm  M3 (USA)
88 mm  KwK43 (Germany)
105 mm  L/50 (Belgium) · L7A3 (Germany)
125 mm  2A46M-1 (USSR)
155 mm  CN98 (South Korea)
  Finland
37 mm  Psv.K/36
114 mm  Psv.H/18
  Foreign:
30 mm  Bushmaster 2 Mk.44 (USA)
45 mm  20-K (USSR)
75 mm  KwK40 L48 (Germany)
76 mm  D-56TS (USSR) · F-34 (USSR) · L-10 (USSR)
77 mm  OQF Mk.II (Britain)
84 mm  20pdr OQF Mk.I (Britain)
85 mm  ZIS-S-53 (USSR)
100 mm  D-10T (USSR) · D-10T2S (USSR)
105 mm  L/50 (Belgium)
120 mm  Rh120 L/44 (Germany) · Rh120 L/55 (Germany)
125 mm  2A46 (USSR)

USSR naval cannons
20 mm  ShVAK
25 mm  2M-3
30 mm  AK-230 · 30 mm/54 AK-630 · 30 mm/54 AK-630M · BP "Plamya"
37 mm  37 mm/67 70-K · V-11
45 mm  45 mm/46 21-K · 45 mm/68 21-KM · 45 mm/89 SM-20-ZIF · 45 mm/89 SM-21-ZIF
57 mm  AK-725
75 mm  75 mm/50 Canet patt.1892
76 mm  34-K · 39-K · 76 mm/60 AK-176M · AK-726 · D-56TS · F-34 · Lender AA gun, pattern 1914/15
85 mm  85 mm/52 92-K · 85 mm/54.6 ZIS-C-53 · 90-K
100 mm  100 mm/56 B-34 · 100 mm/70 SM-5-1 · Minizini
102 mm  Pattern 1911
120 mm  120 mm/50 pattern 1905
130 mm  130 mm/55 pattern 1913 · 130 mm/58 SM-2-1 · B-13
152 mm  152 mm/57 B-38
180 mm  180 mm/57 B-1-P · 180 mm/60 B-1-K
305 mm  12-inch/52 pattern 1907 · 305 mm/54 B-50
356 mm  14-inch/52 pattern 1913 (356 mm)
  Foreign:
40 mm  2pdr QF Mk.IIc (Britain) · Skoda (Czechoslovakia)
47 mm  3 pdr QF Hotchkiss (Britain)
76 mm  76 mm/40 Ansaldo mod.1917 (Italy)
88 mm  SK C/30 (Germany)
120 mm  120 mm/50 Mk.4 Bofors M1924 (Sweden) · 120 mm/50 O.T.O. Mod.1933 (Italy)
152 mm  152/53 mm O.T.O. Mod.1929 (Italy)
320 mm  320 mm/44 Ansaldo model 1934 (Italy)

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