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=== Comparison with analogues === | === Comparison with analogues === | ||
− | ''Give a comparative description of cannons/machine guns that have firepower equal to this weapon.'' | + | <!-- ''Give a comparative description of cannons/machine guns that have firepower equal to this weapon.'' --> |
+ | Comparing to the primary weapons on the ships of the same BR 140 mm/50 3rd Year Type (140 mm) is grossly outmatched in terms of caliber, which results in low muzzle velocity, TNT equivalents, and penetration capabilities. Lacking firepower is not helped by the number of barrels available on the ships bearing the gun, offering at most 6 shells fired at the same time, which is about average for the BR. | ||
+ | Concluding, the 3rd Year Type can be considered the weakest cannon among its peers. | ||
+ | ==== Type 0 HE ==== | ||
+ | {| class="wikitable sortable" | ||
+ | ! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Cannon | ||
+ | ! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Shell | ||
+ | ! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of<br>warhead | ||
+ | ! rowspan="2" | Velocity<br>(m/s) | ||
+ | ! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="number" | Explosive Mass<br>(TNT equivalent) (kg) | ||
+ | ! colspan="2" | Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm) | ||
+ | ! colspan="2" | Ricochet | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | ! 1000 m | ||
+ | ! 10,000 m | ||
+ | ! 0% | ||
+ | ! 100% | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | [[{{PAGENAME}}]] | ||
+ | | 140 mm type 0 HE | ||
+ | | HE | ||
+ | | 840 | ||
+ | | 3.15 | ||
+ | | 35mm | ||
+ | | 35mm | ||
+ | | {{gunParam|shell=he_frag|ricochet|0}} | ||
+ | | {{gunParam|shell=he_frag|ricochet|100}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | [[6 inch/53 Mk.12 (152 mm)]] | ||
+ | | 6 inch Mk.34 HC | ||
+ | | HE | ||
+ | | 914 | ||
+ | | 5.88 | ||
+ | | 49mm | ||
+ | | 49mm | ||
+ | | {{gunParam|shell=he_frag|ricochet|0}} | ||
+ | | {{gunParam|shell=he_frag|ricochet|100}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | [[15 cm/48 KC/36 (150 mm)]] | ||
+ | | 15 cm Spgr. L/4.5 Kz (m.Hb) | ||
+ | | HE | ||
+ | | 835 | ||
+ | | 3.91 | ||
+ | | 37mm | ||
+ | | 37mm | ||
+ | | {{gunParam|shell=he_frag|ricochet|0}} | ||
+ | | {{gunParam|shell=he_frag|ricochet|100}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | [[180 mm/60 B-1-K (180 mm)]] | ||
+ | | 180 mm OF-32 | ||
+ | | HE | ||
+ | | 920 | ||
+ | | 12.17 | ||
+ | | 65mm | ||
+ | | 65mm | ||
+ | | {{gunParam|shell=he_frag|ricochet|0}} | ||
+ | | {{gunParam|shell=he_frag|ricochet|100}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | [[6 inch/45 BL Mark XII (152 mm)]] | ||
+ | | 6 inch HE | ||
+ | | HE | ||
+ | | 853 | ||
+ | | 6 | ||
+ | | 50mm | ||
+ | | 50mm | ||
+ | | {{gunParam|shell=he_frag|ricochet|0}} | ||
+ | | {{gunParam|shell=he_frag|ricochet|100}} | ||
+ | |} | ||
+ | |||
+ | ==== Type 1 SAP ==== | ||
+ | {| class="wikitable sortable" | ||
+ | ! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Cannon | ||
+ | ! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Shell | ||
+ | ! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of<br>warhead | ||
+ | ! rowspan="2" | Velocity<br>(m/s) | ||
+ | ! rowspan="2" | Explosive Mass<br>(TNT equivalent) (kg) | ||
+ | ! colspan="2" | Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm) | ||
+ | ! colspan="2" | Ricochet | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | ! 1000 m | ||
+ | ! 10,000 m | ||
+ | ! 0% | ||
+ | ! 100% | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | [[{{PAGENAME}}]] | ||
+ | | 140 mm type 1 SAP | ||
+ | | SAPBC | ||
+ | | 855 | ||
+ | | 2.21 | ||
+ | | 112mm | ||
+ | | 62mm | ||
+ | | {{gunParam|shell=sapbc_tank|ricochet|0}} | ||
+ | | {{gunParam|shell=sapbc_tank|ricochet|100}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | [[6 inch/53 Mk.12 (152 mm)]] | ||
+ | | 6 inch Mk.27 SC | ||
+ | | SP Common | ||
+ | | 914 | ||
+ | | 977.06 | ||
+ | | 160mm | ||
+ | | 90mm | ||
+ | | {{gunParam|shell=sapbc_tank|ricochet|0}} | ||
+ | | {{gunParam|shell=sapbc_tank|ricochet|100}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | [[15 cm/48 KC/36 (150 mm)]] | ||
+ | | 15 cm Spgr. L/4.4 Bdz (m.Hb) | ||
+ | | SAPBC | ||
+ | | 960 | ||
+ | | 3.32 | ||
+ | | 141mm | ||
+ | | 79mm | ||
+ | | {{gunParam|shell=sapbc_tank|ricochet|0}} | ||
+ | | {{gunParam|shell=sapbc_tank|ricochet|100}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | [[15 cm/48 KC/36 (150 mm)]] | ||
+ | | 15 cm Spgr. L/3.7 (m.Hb) | ||
+ | | APCBC | ||
+ | | 960 | ||
+ | | 1.32 | ||
+ | | 281mm | ||
+ | | 157mm | ||
+ | | {{gunParam|shell=apcbc_tank|ricochet|0}} | ||
+ | | {{gunParam|shell=apcbc_tank|ricochet|100}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | [[180 mm/60 B-1-K (180 mm)]] | ||
+ | | 180 mm PB-32 | ||
+ | | SAPCBC | ||
+ | | 920 | ||
+ | | 10.78 | ||
+ | | 204mm | ||
+ | | 130mm | ||
+ | | {{gunParam|shell=sapbc_tank|ricochet|0}} | ||
+ | | {{gunParam|shell=sapbc_tank|ricochet|100}} | ||
+ | |- | ||
+ | | [[6 inch/45 BL Mark XII (152 mm)]] | ||
+ | | 6 inch CPBC | ||
+ | | SAPBC | ||
+ | | 853 | ||
+ | | 3.4 | ||
+ | | 133mm | ||
+ | | 74mm | ||
+ | | {{gunParam|shell=sapbc_tank|ricochet|0}} | ||
+ | | {{gunParam|shell=sapbc_tank|ricochet|100}} | ||
+ | |} | ||
== Usage in battles == | == Usage in battles == |
Revision as of 16:19, 9 April 2020
Contents
Description
140 mm/50 3rd Year Type (140 mm) is a main gun type on an early Japanese Light Cruisers. It's a relatively competent weapon, offering good performance against enemy ships, however being unable to effectively engage hostile airplanes.
Vehicles equipped with this weapon
General info
Tell us about the tactical and technical characteristics of the cannon or machine gun.
Available ammunition
Standard HE shell is a relatively good all-rounder, that should be taken to every match, it's useful primarily against Destroyers and Motor Torpedo Boats. Type 2 SAP (Tier I modification) shells are comparatively weak, with little direct damage and mediocre fragmentation damage, despite having larger explosive filler than its successor. Their usefulness is limited to taking down engines and transmissions. They are wholly superseded by Type 1 SAP (Tier III modification) that has both: higher damage upon piercing the component and higher fragmentation damage. Finally, the HE-DF shells (under the same designation as the regular HE shells - type 0 HE) are dedicated anti-air shells, however, due to poor vertical guidance (+20° or +30°, depending on the mount, compared to +75° on Type 3 guns) their effectiveness is severely limited. Note that HE-DF shells are inefficient even against wooden boats, as they will explode at a significant distance in front of the target, doing negligible damage to anything that is not moving >100 km/h towards the shell.
Penetration statistics | |||||||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Ammunition | Type of warhead |
Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm) | |||||
10 m | 100 m | 500 m | 1,000 m | 1,500 m | 2,000 m | ||
140 mm type 0 HE | HE | 35mm | 35mm | 35mm | 35mm | 35mm | 35mm |
140 mm type 2 SAP | SAP | 59mm | 51mm | 43mm | 38mm | 35mm | 35mm |
140 mm type 0 HE | HE-DF | 35mm | 35mm | 35mm | 35mm | 35mm | 35mm |
140 mm type 1 SAP | SAPBC | 112mm | 97mm | 81mm | 70mm | 62mm | 54mm |
Shell details | ||||||||||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Ammunition | Type of warhead |
Velocity (m/s) |
Projectile Mass (kg) |
Fuse delay (m) |
Fuse sensitivity (mm) |
Explosive Mass (TNT equivalent) (g) |
Normalisation at 30° from horizontal |
Ricochet | ||
0% | 50% | 100% | ||||||||
140 mm type 0 HE | HE | 840 m/s | 37.87 kg | 0.4 m | 0.1 mm | 3.15 kg | 0° |
79° |
80° |
81° |
140 mm type 2 SAP | SAP | 701 m/s | 37.9 kg | 6 m | 5 mm | 2.96 kg | +4° | 47° | 60° | 65° |
140 mm type 0 HE | HE-DF | 850 m/s | 37.9 kg | 0.1 m | 0.1 mm | 3.15 kg | 0° |
79° |
80° |
81° |
140 mm type 1 SAP | SAPBC | 855 m/s | 37.87 kg | 6 m | 5 mm | 2.21 kg | +4° |
48° |
63° |
71° |
Comparison with analogues
Comparing to the primary weapons on the ships of the same BR 140 mm/50 3rd Year Type (140 mm) is grossly outmatched in terms of caliber, which results in low muzzle velocity, TNT equivalents, and penetration capabilities. Lacking firepower is not helped by the number of barrels available on the ships bearing the gun, offering at most 6 shells fired at the same time, which is about average for the BR. Concluding, the 3rd Year Type can be considered the weakest cannon among its peers.
Type 0 HE
Cannon | Shell | Type of warhead |
Velocity (m/s) |
Explosive Mass (TNT equivalent) (kg) |
Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm) | Ricochet | ||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
1000 m | 10,000 m | 0% | 100% | |||||
140 mm/50 3rd Year Type (140 mm) | 140 mm type 0 HE | HE | 840 | 3.15 | 35mm | 35mm |
79° |
81° |
6 inch/53 Mk.12 (152 mm) | 6 inch Mk.34 HC | HE | 914 | 5.88 | 49mm | 49mm |
79° |
81° |
15 cm/48 KC/36 (150 mm) | 15 cm Spgr. L/4.5 Kz (m.Hb) | HE | 835 | 3.91 | 37mm | 37mm |
79° |
81° |
180 mm/60 B-1-K (180 mm) | 180 mm OF-32 | HE | 920 | 12.17 | 65mm | 65mm |
79° |
81° |
6 inch/45 BL Mark XII (152 mm) | 6 inch HE | HE | 853 | 6 | 50mm | 50mm |
79° |
81° |
Type 1 SAP
Cannon | Shell | Type of warhead |
Velocity (m/s) |
Explosive Mass (TNT equivalent) (kg) |
Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm) | Ricochet | ||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
1000 m | 10,000 m | 0% | 100% | |||||
140 mm/50 3rd Year Type (140 mm) | 140 mm type 1 SAP | SAPBC | 855 | 2.21 | 112mm | 62mm |
48° |
71° |
6 inch/53 Mk.12 (152 mm) | 6 inch Mk.27 SC | SP Common | 914 | 977.06 | 160mm | 90mm |
48° |
71° |
15 cm/48 KC/36 (150 mm) | 15 cm Spgr. L/4.4 Bdz (m.Hb) | SAPBC | 960 | 3.32 | 141mm | 79mm |
48° |
71° |
15 cm/48 KC/36 (150 mm) | 15 cm Spgr. L/3.7 (m.Hb) | APCBC | 960 | 1.32 | 281mm | 157mm |
48° |
71° |
180 mm/60 B-1-K (180 mm) | 180 mm PB-32 | SAPCBC | 920 | 10.78 | 204mm | 130mm |
48° |
71° |
6 inch/45 BL Mark XII (152 mm) | 6 inch CPBC | SAPBC | 853 | 3.4 | 133mm | 74mm |
48° |
71° |
Usage in battles
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Pros and cons
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History
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, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <references />
.
Media
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See also
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External links
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Japan naval cannons | |
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20 mm | JM61 · Type 98 |
25 mm | 25 mm/60 Type 96 |
37 mm | Type 4 · Type 11 pattern 1922 |
40 mm | 40 mm/62 Vickers |
57 mm | Type 97 |
75 mm | Type 88 AA |
76 mm | 3-inch/40 Type 41 · 8 cm/40 3rd Year Type · 8 cm/60 Type 98 |
100 mm | 100/65 mm Type 98 mod A |
120 mm | 120 mm/45 3rd Year Type · 120 mm/45 10th year type |
127 mm | 5 inch/40 Type 89 · 127 mm/50 3rd Year Type |
140 mm | 140 mm/50 3rd Year Type |
152 mm | 6-inch/45 Type 41 · 15 cm/50 Type 41 |
155 mm | 155 mm/60 3rd Year Type |
200 mm | 20 cm 3rd year type No.1 |
203 mm | 20 cm/45 Type 41 · 20 cm/50 3rd year type No.2 |
356 mm | 36 cm/45 Type 41 |
410 mm | 410 mm/45 Type 3 |
Foreign: | |
20 mm | 20 mm/70 Oerlikon Mk.II (USA/Britain) |
40 mm | Bofors L/60 Mark 1 (USA) · Bofors L/60 Mark 2 (USA) · Bofors L/60 Mark 3 (USA) |
47 mm | 3 pdr QF Hotchkiss (Britain) |
76 mm | 3-inch Mark 10 (USA) · 3 inch Mk.33 (USA) · 3-inch Mk.34 (USA) |
120 mm | 4,7-inch/40 Armstrong (Britain) |
127 mm | 5 inch/38 Mk.12 (USA) |
305 mm | 12-inch/45 Vickers (Britain) · 12-inch/50 Vickers (Britain) |