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Description

The 85 mm ZIS-S-53 is a Soviet cannon that is mounted on ground vehicles and naval vessels in War Thunder.

Though the designation differs between "S" and "C", the usage of "C" does not indicate naval usage of the cannon but instead of the phonetic similarities between Cyrillic and English translations. With the letter in the weapon's designation serving as an initial after the weapon's designer A. Savin, the "S" sounds phonetically similar to "C" in the Russian alphabet.

Vehicles equipped with this weapon

Ground vehicles

Naval vessels

General info

Tell us about the tactical and technical characteristics of the cannon or machine gun.

Available ammunition

Tank ammunition:

BR-367 shells are available only on T-44.

Penetration statistics
Ammunition	Type of warhead	Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
Ammunition	Type of warhead	10 m	100 m	500 m	1,000 m	1,500 m	2,000 m
BR-365K	APHE	148	143	126	106	90	77
BR-365A	APHEBC	135	133	124	114	104	95
BR-365P	APCR	195	187	154	122	96	76
BR-367	APCBC	164	162	154	143	134	125
BR-367P	APCR	208	201	176	148	125	106
O-365K	HE	19	18	17	16	15	14

Shell details
Ammunition	Type of warhead	Velocity (m/s)	Projectile mass (kg)	Fuse delay (m)	Fuse sensitivity (mm)	Explosive mass (TNT equivalent) (g)	Ricochet
Ammunition	Type of warhead	Velocity (m/s)	Projectile mass (kg)	Fuse delay (m)	Fuse sensitivity (mm)	Explosive mass (TNT equivalent) (g)	0%	50%	100%
BR-365K	APHE	792	9.2	1.2	14	77	47°	60°	65°
BR-365A	APHEBC	792	9.2	1.2	14	164	48°	63°	71°
BR-365P	APCR	1,050	4.99	-	-	-	66°	70°	72°
BR-367	APCBC	792	9.2	1.2	14	77	48°	63°	71°
BR-367P	APCR	1,020	5.3	-	-	-	66°	70°	72°
O-365K	HE	785	9.54	0.2	0.1	741	79°	80°	81°

Naval ammunition:

Naval BR-365 APHEBC shell is almost identical to BR-365A of ground forces. Naval O-365K HE shell has no fuse delay, losing a bit in close-range penetration.

Penetration statistics
Ammunition	Type of warhead	Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
Ammunition	Type of warhead	100 m	1,000 m	2,000 m	3,000 m	4,000 m	5,000 m
O-365K	HE	11	11	11	11	11	11
BR-365	APHEBC	133	112	92	76	63	52

Shell details
Ammunition	Type of warhead	Velocity (m/s)	Projectile mass (kg)	Fuse delay (m)	Fuse sensitivity (mm)	Explosive mass (TNT equivalent) (g)	Ricochet
Ammunition	Type of warhead	Velocity (m/s)	Projectile mass (kg)	Fuse delay (m)	Fuse sensitivity (mm)	Explosive mass (TNT equivalent) (g)	0%	50%	100%
O-365K	HE	785	9.54	0	1	741	79°	80°	81°
BR-365	APHEBC	792	9.2	1.2	14	164	48°	63°	71°

Comparison with analogues

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Usage in battles

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Pros and cons

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Cons:

History

The ZiS-S-53 is a variant of the Red Army's 85 mm air defense gun M1939 (GAU designation 52-K).

The gun was used on river gunboats such as the MBK pr.186 in the original T-34-85 turret mounts. However, in 1944, TsKB-34 built a specialized turret mount that traded armour for elevation angles. Designated the MK-85 by the Soviet Navy, the turret was used to arm the later variants of the MBK pr.186 along with the Pr.191 boats that began to supplement it. It was also mounted on some of the Pr.30 Bis destroyers after World War II.

Media

Videos

The Shooting Range #294 - Round Study section at 09:15 compares the rounds BR-365A and BR-367.

External links

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topic on the official game forum;
other literature.

USSR tank cannons
20 mm	TNSh
30 mm	2A42 · 2A72 · AG-30
45 mm	20-K
57 mm	AU-220 · Ch-51M · ZIS-2 · ZIS-4 · ZIS-4M
73 mm	2A28
76 mm	1902/30 · 3-K · D-56TS · F-32 · F-34 · F-96 · KT-28 · L-10 · L-11 · ZIS-3 · ZIS-5
85 mm	D-5S · D-5T · D-58 · D-70 · F-30 · ZIS-S-53
100 mm	2A48 · 2A70 · D-10S · D-10T · D-10T2S · D-50 · LB-1 · S-34
107 mm	ZIS-6
115 mm	U-5TS
122 mm	A-19 · D-25-44T · D-25S · D-25T · D-25TS · D-30T · D-49 · M-30 · M-62-T2S
125 mm	2A26 · 2A46 · 2A46M · 2A46M-1 · 2A46M-4 · 2A46M-5 · 2A46MS · 2A75 · D-126
130 mm	B-13 · C-70 · M-65
152 mm	2A33 · LP-83 · M-10T · M-64 · M-69 · ML-20S
	Foreign:
37 mm	M5 ^(USA)
50 mm	KwK L/42 ^(Germany)
57 mm	6pdr OQF Mk.III ^(Britain) · M1 ^(USA)
75 mm	KwK42 ^(Germany) · M2 ^(USA)
76 mm	M1 ^(USA)
85 mm	Type-62-85-TC ^(China)

China tank cannons
30 mm	ZPL02 · ZPZ02
73 mm	Type 86
76 mm	M32K1
85 mm	Type 56 · Type 63
100 mm	PTP86 · Type 59 · Type 69 · Type 69-II · ZPL04
105 mm	88B-105T · Type 83 · WMA301 · ZPL94 · ZPL98A
120 mm	122TM · PTZ89
125 mm	Type 88C · Type 99A · ZPT98
130 mm	PL59A Gai
152 mm	PL66 Gai
	Foreign:
20 mm	KwK30 ^(Germany)
37 mm	M6 ^(USA)
45 mm	20-K ^(USSR)
47 mm	Type 1 ^(Japan)
57 mm	Type 97 ^(Japan) · ZIS-2 ^(USSR)
75 mm	M2 Howitzer ^(USA) · M3 ^(USA) · M6 ^(USA)
76 mm	D-56T ^(USSR) · F-34 ^(USSR) · M1 ^(USA) · M7 ^(USA) · ZIS-3 ^(USSR)
85 mm	ZIS-S-53 ^(USSR)
90 mm	M3 ^(USA) · M41 ^(USA)
100 mm	D-10S ^(USSR)
105 mm	M68 ^(USA) · M68A1 ^(USA)
115 mm	U-5TS ^(USSR)
122 mm	A-19 ^(USSR) · D-25T ^(USSR)
152 mm	ML-20S ^(USSR)

Sweden tank cannons
20 mm	Akan m/47D · Pvlvkan m/40
37 mm	kan m/38
40 mm	akan m/70B
57 mm	Pvkan m/43
75 mm	kan m/02 · kan m/41 · kan Strv 74 · lvkan m/37 A · pvkan m/43
84 mm	kan Strv 81
90 mm	kan Ikv 91
105 mm	kan Bofors · kan Ikv · kan m/44 · kan Strv 101 · L74
120 mm	automatkanon · CTG · kan Strv 121 · kan Strv 122
150 mm	fsthaub m/02
155 mm	kan m/60
	Foreign:
35 mm	Bushmaster 3 ^(USA)
73 mm	2A28 ^(USSR)
75 mm	M3 ^(USA)
88 mm	KwK43 ^(Germany)
105 mm	L/50 ^(Belgium) · L7A3 ^(Germany)
125 mm	2A46M-1 ^(USSR)
155 mm	CN98 ^{(South Korea)}
	Finland
37 mm	Psv.K/36
114 mm	Psv.H/18
	Foreign:
30 mm	Bushmaster 2 Mk.44 ^(USA)
45 mm	20-K ^(USSR)
75 mm	KwK40 L48 ^(Germany)
76 mm	D-56TS ^(USSR) · F-34 ^(USSR) · L-10 ^(USSR)
77 mm	OQF Mk.II ^(Britain)
84 mm	20pdr OQF Mk.I ^(Britain)
85 mm	ZIS-S-53 ^(USSR)
100 mm	D-10T ^(USSR) · D-10T2S ^(USSR)
105 mm	L/50 ^(Belgium)
120 mm	Rh120 L/44 ^(Germany) · Rh120 L/55 ^(Germany)
125 mm	2A46 ^(USSR)

USSR naval cannons
20 mm	ShVAK
25 mm	2M-3
30 mm	AK-230 · 30 mm/54 AK-630 · 30 mm/54 AK-630M · BP "Plamya"
37 mm	37 mm/67 70-K · V-11
45 mm	45 mm/46 21-K · 45 mm/68 21-KM · 45 mm/89 SM-20-ZIF · 45 mm/89 SM-21-ZIF
57 mm	AK-725
75 mm	75 mm/50 Canet patt.1892
76 mm	34-K · 39-K · 76 mm/60 AK-176M · AK-726 · D-56TS · F-34 · Lender AA gun, pattern 1914/15
85 mm	85 mm/52 92-K · 85 mm/54.6 ZIS-C-53 · 90-K
100 mm	100 mm/56 B-34 · 100 mm/70 SM-5-1 · Minizini
102 mm	Pattern 1911
120 mm	120 mm/50 pattern 1905
130 mm	130 mm/55 pattern 1913 · 130 mm/58 SM-2-1 · B-13
152 mm	152 mm/57 B-38
180 mm	180 mm/57 B-1-P · 180 mm/60 B-1-K
305 mm	12-inch/52 pattern 1907 · 305 mm/54 B-50
356 mm	14-inch/52 pattern 1913 (356 mm)
	Foreign:
40 mm	2pdr QF Mk.IIc ^(Britain) · Skoda ^{(Czechoslovakia)}
47 mm	3 pdr QF Hotchkiss ^(Britain)
76 mm	76 mm/40 Ansaldo mod.1917 ^(Italy)
88 mm	SK C/30 ^(Germany)
120 mm	120 mm/50 Mk.4 Bofors M1924 ^(Sweden) · 120 mm/50 O.T.O. Mod.1933 ^(Italy)
152 mm	152/53 mm O.T.O. Mod.1929 ^(Italy)
320 mm	320 mm/44 Ansaldo model 1934 ^(Italy)

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 == Description ==
-''Write an introduction to the article in 2-3 small paragraphs. Briefly tell us about the history of the development and combat using the weaponry and also about its features. Compile a list of air, ground, or naval vehicles that feature this weapon system in the game.''
+<!-- ''Write an introduction to the article in 2-3 small paragraphs. Briefly tell us about the history of the development and combat using the weaponry and also about its features. Compile a list of air, ground, or naval vehicles that feature this weapon system in the game.'' -->
+The '''85 mm ZIS-S-53''' is a Soviet cannon that is mounted on ground vehicles and naval vessels in War Thunder.
+Though the designation differs between "S" and "C", the usage of "C" does not indicate naval usage of the cannon but instead of the phonetic similarities between Cyrillic and English translations. With the letter in the weapon's designation serving as an initial after the weapon's designer A. Savin, the "S" sounds phonetically similar to "C" in the Russian alphabet.
 === Vehicles equipped with this weapon ===
 <!-- ''List out vehicles that are equipped with the weapon.'' -->
+'''Ground vehicles'''
 * {{Specs-Link|ussr_t_34_85E}}
 * {{Specs-Link|cn_t_34_85_d_5t}}
 * {{Specs-Link|ussr_t_34_85_zis_53}}
+* {{Specs-Link|sw_t_34_85_zis_53}}
 * {{Specs-Link|cn_t_34_85_zis_53_no215}}
-* {{Specs-Link|cn_type_58}}
 * {{Specs-Link|ussr_t_44}}
+'''Naval vessels'''
+* {{Specs-Link|ussr_mkl_186}}
+* {{Specs-Link|ussr_mkl_186_mk85}}
+* {{Specs-Link|ussr_pr_191}}
+* {{Specs-Link|ussr_pr_191m}}
 == General info ==
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 === Available ammunition ===
-''Describe the shells that are available for the weapon and their features and purpose. If it concerns autocannons or machine guns, write about different ammo belts and what is inside (which types of shells).''
+<!--''Describe the shells that are available for the weapon and their features and purpose. If it concerns autocannons or machine guns, write about different ammo belts and what is inside (which types of shells).''-->
+'''Tank ammunition:'''
+BR-367 shells are available only on T-44.
+{{:{{PAGENAME}}/Ammunition|BR-365K, BR-365A, BR-365P, BR-367, BR-367P, O-365K}}
+'''Naval ammunition:'''
+Naval BR-365 APHEBC shell is almost identical to BR-365A of ground forces. Naval O-365K HE shell has no fuse delay, losing a bit in close-range penetration.
+{{:85 mm/54.6 ZIS-C-53 (85 mm)/Ammunition|85 mm O-365K, 85 mm BR-365}}
 === Comparison with analogues ===
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 == History ==
-''Examine the history of the creation and combat usage of the weapon in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the weapon and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Weapon-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>.''
+<!-- ''Examine the history of the creation and combat usage of the weapon in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the weapon and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Weapon-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>.'' -->
+The ZiS-S-53 is a variant of the Red Army's 85 mm air defense gun M1939 (GAU designation 52-K).
+The gun was used on river gunboats such as the [[MBK pr.186]] in the original [[T-34-85]] turret mounts. However, in 1944, TsKB-34 built a specialized turret mount that traded armour for elevation angles. Designated the MK-85 by the Soviet Navy, the turret was used to arm the [[MBK pr.186 (MK 85)|later variants of the MBK pr.186]] along with the [[Pr.191]] boats that began to supplement it. It was also mounted on some of the Pr.30 Bis destroyers after World War II.
 == Media ==
-''An excellent addition to the article would be a video guide, as well as screenshots from the game and photos.''
+<!-- ''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.'' -->
+;Videos
+{{Youtube-gallery|LWjiIdzTi_w|'''The Shooting Range #294''' - ''Round Study'' section at 09:15 compares the rounds BR-365A and BR-367.}}
 == See also ==
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 ''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:''
 * ''topic on the official game forum;''
-* ''encyclopedia page on the weapon;''
 * ''other literature.''
 {{USSR tank cannons}}
 {{China tank cannons}}
+{{Sweden tank cannons}}
+{{USSR naval cannons}}
 [[Category:Tank cannons]]
+[[Category:Naval cannons]]

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