Lorraine 155 Mle.50

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Lorraine automoteur de 155 mm modèle 1950
fr_lorraine_155.png
AB
RB
SB
General characteristics
Brief
Detailed
4.3/4.3/4.3BR
5 peopleCrew
front / side / backArmour
16 / 16 / 10Hull
16 / 16 / 10Turret
Mobility
28.0 tWeight
59 km/h forward
15 km/h back
54 km/h forward
14 km/h back
Speed
Armament
155 mm L'Obusier de 155 Modèle 1950 howitzerMain weapon
30 roundsAmmunition
-5° / 67°Vertical guidance
-20° / 20°Horizontal guidance
20 mm MG151/20 cannonMachinegun
400 roundsAmmunition
250 roundsBelt capacity
701 shots/minFire rate
-8° / 45°Vertical guidance
Economy
Sl icon.png3 000/1 900/2 550Repair
10 000 Sl icon.pngCrew training
200 000 Sl icon.pngExperts
470 Ge icon.pngAces
× (148 + 100 Talisman.png) % Rp icon.pngReward for battle

Description

GarageImage Lorraine 155 Mle.50.jpg


The Lorraine automoteur de 155 mm modèle 1950 (shortened as Lorraine 155 Mle.50) is a gift rank III French tank destroyer with a battle rating of 4.3 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced in Update 1.77 "Advancing Storm" during the 2018 World War Two Chronicles.

General info

Survivability and armour

The Lorraine 155 Mle.50 has very little armour (although some are sloped enough to deflect certain low-rank rounds), and can generally be penetrated by most guns of its rank. Even worse, however, the 'casemate' (if it can even be called that) has very little armour, and in some places can be shot through with machine guns. The machine-gunner (operating the 151) is completely open to the elements. Generally, you want to rely on good map placement and mobility, rather than armour.

Armour type:

  • Rolled homogeneous armour
  • Structural steel
Armour Front (Slope angle) Sides Rear Roof
Hull 16 mm (70°) Front glacis
16 mm (2-73°) Transmission housing
16 mm 10 mm (0-42°) 10 mm
Superstructure 16 mm (21°) Front
10 mm Gun shield
16 mm (30°) Right side
16 mm (21-48°) Left side
10 mm 10 mm
Armour Sides Roof
Cupola 10 mm N/A

Notes:

  • Suspension wheels are 10 mm thick while tracks, sprocket wheels, torsion bars, and return rollers are 20 mm thick.
  • Belly armour is 10 mm thick.
  • Gun breech is 300mm thick, while the barrel itself is 25mm.
  • Gun carriage around the gun is 20mm thick, while the gun mount/traverse device is 40mm thick.

Mobility

Mobility characteristic
Weight (tons) Add-on Armour
weight (tons)
Max speed (km/h)
28.0 N/A 59 (AB)
55 (RB/SB)
Engine power (horsepower)
Mode Stock Upgraded
Arcade 639 787
Realistic/Simulator 398 450
Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
Mode Stock Upgraded
Arcade 22.82 28.11
Realistic/Simulator 14.21 16.07

Armaments

Main armament

155 mm L'Obusier de 155 Modèle 1950
Capacity Vertical
guidance
Horizontal
guidance
Stabilizer
30 -5°/+67° ±20° N/A
Turret rotation speed (°/s)
Mode Stock Upgraded Prior + Full crew Prior + Expert qualif. Prior + Ace qualif.
Arcade 5.27 7.31 8.88 9.82 10.45
Realistic 3.57 4.2 5.1 5.64 6.0
Reloading rate (seconds)
Stock Prior + Full crew Prior + Expert qualif. Prior + Ace qualif.
26.0 23.0 21.2 20.0
Ammunition
Penetration statistics
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Penetration in mm @ 0° Angle of Attack
10m 100m 500m 1000m 1500m 2000m
M107 HE 54 54 54 54 54 54
Shell details
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Velocity
in m/s
Projectile
Mass in kg
Fuse delay

in m:

Fuse sensitivity

in mm:

Explosive Mass in g
(TNT equivalent):
Normalization At 30°
from horizontal:
Ricochet:
0% 50% 100%
M107 HE 563 43.1 0.1 0.1 6,860 +0° 79° 80° 81°
Smoke characteristic
Ammunition Velocity
in m/s
Projectile
Mass in kg
Screen radius
in m
Screen time
in s
Screen hold time
in s:
Explosive Mass in g
(TNT equivalent):
M110 563 40.8 25 5 30 50
Ammo racks
Ammo racks of the Lorraine 155 Mle.50.
Full
ammo
1st
rack empty
2nd
rack empty
3rd
rack empty
4th
rack empty
5th
rack empty
6th
rack empty
7th
rack empty
8th
rack empty
Visual discrepancy
30 29 (+1) 27 (+3) 23 (+7) 18 (+12) 15 (+15) (+21) (+24) (+29) No

Notes:

  • Recommended ammo load: 10. Keeps most ammunition in the floor and out of sponsons.

Machine guns

Main article: MG 151/20 (20 mm)
20 mm MG151/20
Commander's mount
Capacity (Belt capacity) Fire rate
(shots/minute)
Vertical
guidance
Horizontal
guidance
400 (250) 700 -8°/+45° ±180°

Usage in battles

The best method of using the large-calibre weapon on the Loraine is to exploit the high-explosive power against thin-armour on the enemy. Like other large calibre HE tanks, shooting below an enemy vehicle will penetrate its belly armor. This is an effective, albeit difficult way to engage tanks whose armor is greater than what your HE shell can penetrate.

Some targets to keep in mind of, and their weak points:

  • Tiger I - While seemingly a hard enemy to face, the Tiger is easily dispatched with a side shot. A hit to the roadwheels will penetrate the tank, with the shell fragments going through the thin armor on the underside of the tank's sponson. This is also possible to do to Tiger IIs, but usually results in much less damage done.
  • Tiger II P, Panthers D and A - a hit to the bottom of the curved turret face of these tanks will cause the HE shell to pen the roof of the vehicle. This can also be done on tanks with flat turret fronts ( Tiger I, Tiger II H, Panthers G and F) by aiming for the lower half of the turret, but is not as reliable.

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Powerful 155mm gun with a HE shell on-par with the KV-2's gun
  • Pintle-mounted 20mm cannon that is deadly to lightly-armoured vehicles and aircraft
  • Decent mobility
  • Good reverse speed

Cons:

  • Thin armor with an open casemate, allows even rifle-calibre rounds to affect the crew
  • Despite thin armor, it's thick enough to trigger most fuses in APHE shells
  • Large profile
  • Long reload time; increases if the loader is taken out
  • If the machine-gunner is knocked out, so is the ability to use the 20mm cannon
  • No AP shells, only HE shells
  • Bad gun depression of 5°

History

Prototypes of the Lorraine 155 Mle.50 passed trials in 1950, but never reached production.

Media

Skin and Camouflages for the Lorraine 155 Mle.50 in Warthunder Live.

See also

Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:

  • reference to the series of the vehicles;
  • links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.

External links


France tank destroyers
  AMR.35 ZT3 · SAu 40 · ARL-44 · CA Lorraine · Lorraine 155 Mle.50 · AMX-50 Foch · AMX-10RC
USA  ▄3-inch Gun Motor Carriage M10

France premium ground vehicles
Light tanks  H.39 "Cambronne" · AMX-13 (SS.11)
Medium tanks  M4A1 (FL10) · Panther «Dauphine» · AMX-30 · AMX-30 Super
Heavy tanks  B1 ter
Tank destroyers  Lorraine 155 Mle.50