Q-5L

Q-5L

Q-5A

JH-7A

Q-5L

Q-5A

JH-7A

China

VII Rank

Battle rating:

AB	RB	SB
11.0	9.7	10.7

Class:

Strike aircraft

Research:260 000

Purchase:710 000

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Description

The Q-5L (NATO: Fantan) is a rank VII Chinese strike aircraft with a battle rating of 11.0 (AB), 9.7 (RB), and 10.7 (SB). It was introduced in Update "Fire and Ice".

One of the latest revisions of the Q-5 series in the PLAAF, the Q-5L will prove deadly to ground targets with its sufficient payload and updates to its avionics and new sensors for ground attacks, as well as new precision bombs.

General info

Flight performance

Air brakes

Allows you to dramatically reduce the flight speed by releasing special flaps

Drogue parachute

Reduces braking distance when landing on any runway

Max speed

at 7 000 m1 444 km/h

Turn time25 s

Max altitude16 500 m

Engine2 х Shenyang Liming WP-6A-III

Type

Cooling systemAir

Take-off weight13 t

For players who have flown the Q-5 series, Q-5L still retains the same flight performance - although sharing many parts with the J-6A, due to the lack of weight-reduction measures, Q-5s are in fact structurally overweight; while it has better sustained turn to heavier jets such as Phantoms thanks to its engines, do note that the weight issue still haunts the jet. Beware of any targets that have higher manoeuvrability, although your higher speed might save you from subsonic jets, any supersonic jets will have no problem chasing a Q-5L. Another note is that the Q-5L still retains the same control surface lock-up at transonic speeds (>850 km/h and before hitting Mach 1.0), use the airbrakes according to the situation for both regaining control or "snap-shots" on enemy targets.

Characteristics	Max speed (km/h at _,___ m)		Max altitude (metres)	Turn time (seconds)		Rate of climb (metres/second)		Take-off run (metres)
	AB	RB		AB	RB	AB	RB
Stock	___	___	16500	__._	__._	__._	__._	850
Upgraded	___	___		__._	__._	__._	__._

Details

Features
Combat flaps	Take-off flaps	Landing flaps	Air brakes	Arrestor gear	Drogue chute
_	_	_	_	_	_

Limits
Wings (km/h)	Gear (km/h)	Flaps (km/h)			Max Static G
		Combat	Take-off	Landing	+	-
0	577	___	___	___	~__	~__

Optimal velocities (km/h)
Ailerons	Rudder	Elevators	Radiator
< ___	< ___	< ___	N/A

Engine performance

Engine			Aircraft mass
Engine name		Number	Basic mass		Wing loading (full fuel)
_____		_	_,___ kg		___ kg/m2
Engine characteristics			Mass with fuel (no weapons load)			Max Gross Weight
Weight (each)	Type		_m fuel	__m fuel	__m fuel
___ kg	___		_,___ kg	_,___ kg	_,___ kg	_,___ kg
Maximum engine thrust @ 0 m (RB/SB)			Thrust to weight ratio @ 0 m (___%/WEP)
Condition	100%	___%/WEP	_m fuel	__m fuel	__m fuel	MGW
Stationary	___ kgf	___ kgf	_.__	_.__	_.__	_.__
Optimal	___ kgf (_ km/h)	___ kgf (_ km/h)	_.__	_.__	_.__	_.__

Survivability and armour

Flares/Chaff

Aircraft countermeasures to distract IR and radar-guided missiles and also AA radar

Crew1 person

Speed of destruction

Structural0 km/h

Gear577 km/h

• 10 mm steel plate behind nose cone
• 4.5 + 8 mm bulletproof glass in front of the cockpit
• 8 mm steel plate underneath cockpit
• 16 mm steel armoured pilot's seat
• 10 + 25 mm steel armoured pilot's headrest
• Self-sealing fuel tanks behind cockpit and underneath engines in rear fuselage

The Q-5L shares the same protection as its predecessors. Due to the need for ground attack and some protection for the pilot, the cockpit is enclosed by steel plates and comes with bulletproof glass. While this might not be sufficient against any autocannons at the rank, it could at least make sure the pilot will not be knocked out right away by incoming shots or shrapnel. The engines are still unprotected, but the installation of fire suppression systems allows the Q-5L to have greater odds to survive a fire onboard.

Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference

AB3 341 → 4 817

RB9 053 → 13 054

SB10 024 → 14 454

Total cost of modifications225 500

352 000

Talisman cost2 800

Crew training200 000

Experts710 000

Aces2 800

Research Aces1 080 000

Reward for battleAB / RB / SB

80 / 320 / 600 %

232 / 232 / 232 %

Modifications

Flight performance	Survivability	Weaponry
Fuselage repair Research: 9 100 Cost: 14 000 340 Compressor Research: 9 100 Cost: 14 000 340 New boosters Research: 13 000 Cost: 20 000 490 Wings repair Research: 14 000 Cost: 22 000 530 G-suit Research: 12 000 Cost: 19 000 450 Engine Research: 12 000 Cost: 19 000 450	Airframe Research: 13 000 Cost: 20 000 490 Cover Research: 12 000 Cost: 19 000 450	ns23_belt_pack Research: 9 100 Cost: 14 000 340 Flares/Chaff Research: 9 100 Cost: 14 000 340 HF-6 Research: 9 100 Cost: 14 000 340 Type 250 Research: 13 000 Cost: 20 000 490 K/PZS-01 Research: 13 000 Cost: 20 000 490 ns23_new_gun Research: 14 000 Cost: 22 000 530 GB250 Research: 14 000 Cost: 22 000 530 HF-14 Research: 14 000 Cost: 22 000 530 Type 500 Research: 12 000 Cost: 19 000 450 GB500 Research: 12 000 Cost: 19 000 450 EFS Research: 12 000 Cost: 19 000 450

Armaments

Ballistic Computer
CCIP (Guns)	CCIP (Rockets)	CCIP (Bombs)	CCRP (Bombs)

Offensive armament

The Q-5L is armed with:

• 2 x 23 mm Type 23-2K cannons, wing-mounted (120 rpg = 240 total)

Suspended armament

The Q-5L can be outfitted with the following ordnance presets:

• Without load
• 28 x Type 90-1 rockets
• 16 x Type 130-2 rockets
• 2 x 260 kg TS250 bombs (520 kg total)
• 2 x 570 kg LS-500J bombs (1,140 kg total)
• 8 x 250 kg 250-3 bombs (2,000 kg total)
• 2 x 500 kg 500-3 bombs (1,000 kg total)

Custom loadout options

	1	2	3	4	5	6	7
250 kg 250-3 bombs	1	1		4		1	1
500 kg 500-3 bombs		1				1
260 kg TS250 bombs		1*				1*
570 kg LS-500J bombs		1*				1*
Type 90-1 rockets		7	7		7	7
Type 130-2 rockets		4	4		4	4
K/PSZ-01				1*
* The K/PSZ-01 targeting pod must be carried when equipping laser guided bombs

The good news for players of the Q-5L is that the PLAAF have finally ditched the -2 series bombs for the streamlined -3 series low-drag bombs, in addition to the ability to carry greater payloads. Players can take eight 250-3 bombs which, combined with the ballistic computer, could do extensive damage to multiple targets. While the option for a pair of 500-3 bombs on the wings also exists, in most cases the 250 kg bombs are more than enough to take down tanks of the rank. Both payloads are also now finally sufficient to (barely) destroy a base in air RB.

Thanks to the technological advances of the early 2000s, the Q-5L also receives "smart bombs" in the 250 kg TS250 and 500 kg LS-500J LGBs. Combined with the K/PSZ-01 targeting pod with excellent thermal sights, both of these bombs can make sure the enemies will have a really bad day while you can keep yourself out of trouble by dropping the bombs from higher altitude.

For players that feel that bombs are not their cup of tea, there are still options for 90 mm and 130 mm rockets at their disposal; while both of them can be guided by ballistic computer as well, do note that they don't have as many salvoes as their NATO/Warsaw Pact counterparts, so aim carefully before firing upon light targets or careless MBTs, taking them out using the high penetration HEAT warheads of the 90-1 or the explosive mass of the 130-2 rockets.

Usage in battles

The Q-5L shares many similar features to previous Fantans: the same bulky MiG-19/J-6-based airframe with high acceleration. While there are some changes to the avionics and weapons, in most scenarios Q-5L flies like all the other Fantans.

Not-so Fighter

An everlasting flaw of the Q-5s is the overweight airframe due to the limits of materials, this still applies to the Q-5L, though it has some parts of the airframe reinforced with modern materials. In most cases, using the Q-5L as a makeshift fighter is not a great idea as the airframe hinders the overall manoeuvrability; yes, it could still surprise in outturning supersonic jets of its rank or sometimes higher, but do remember that the Q-5 is an attacker and doesn't have the manoeuvrability at high speeds, especially at transonic speeds where the control surfaces lock up and might cause trouble when attempting to level out from a dive. To say the least, if enemy fighters are at lower speeds and lack the acceleration to escape from the Q-5L's pair of WP-6III engines, in most cases a sustained turnfight is enough to take them down with ease, assuming the pilot is used to the subpar ballistic performance of 23-2K cannons onboard. In some cases, even jets with delta wings will fall victim to the Q-5L with its superior manoeuvring energy retention. However, only take on enemies when they are on their own, as a prolonged dogfight means that supersonic enemy backup could quickly arrive and turn the tables.

Since the airframe has been reinforced, the Q-5L can carry up to 2 tons of bombs in a single run: for the more dedicated role of being an attacker, taking eight 250-3 bombs are barely sufficient to take down a base at its rank: although this also means you have to land and rearm often, this at least gives the Q-5L a chance to earn extra research points. While bombing AI targets is still viable, only do it when the skies are clear from enemies as the Q-5L lacks countermeasures against enemy missiles.

Payback with Vengeance

While players might not have a good time in aerial combat, the Q-5L brings in a very valuable feature for PLAAF jets: a ballistic computer and guided bombs. To players suffering from enemy jet attackers in ground battles, the Q-5L lets enemies taste their own medicine to some extent. Thanks to the new HUD and sensors onboard, the Q-5L is able to achieve precise strikes with either its bombs or rockets. The new targeting pod onboard provides a thermal vision sight, while the jet itself also has a built-in 1.5x camera for acquisition. For the safest approach against enemy targets, take either the 250/500 kg LGBs (TS250/LS-500J) alongside the targeting pod and climb to at least 6 km before entering the battlefield as this lowers the odds of being pinged by SAM radar and MANPADS of the rank have very little chance of hitting targets at such altitude. Do note that due to the limited view angle of the pod, you might sometimes have to dive in for a better lock, make sure to deploy airbrakes for maximum control.

However, even before any LGBs have been researched, the Q-5L still has a range of unguided ordnance including GP bombs and rocket pods; the ballistic computer onboard can make sure the ordnance lands as close as possible to the designated target. Leave the bombs for (groups of) tanks, and use the rockets against light vehicles or enemy SPAA who aren't aware of your existence.

Pros and cons

Pros:

• New HUD with ballistic computer
• Built-in TVD camera for target acquisition; alternatively equipped with an advanced targeting pod
• Access to 250/500 kg guided bombs
• Sufficient manoeuvrability at around 700 km/h
• Great acceleration thanks to the WP-6-IIIA engines
• Access to RWR

Cons:

• Same bulky airframe as all its predecessors and still locks up at transonic speeds
• The built-in camera only has 1.5x magnification
• Lacks any type of AAM and countermeasures, unlike its technological predecessor A-5C
• Type 23-2K cannons needs extra practice against aerial targets
• Subpar payload to its NATO/Warsaw Pact counterparts

History

The Q-5L variant of the Q-5 family traces back to two other variants, the Q-5E/F, in the late 1990s.

As part of the efforts to develop domestic precision munitions against enemies' infrastructure inspired by the USAF's AGM-62 and GBU-12 bombs in the Vietnam War and Gulf War, the PLAAF accelerated the development of LGBs in December 1996 with a plan for the precision munitions where either a single jet would carry both the targeting pod and the bombs for an attack run, or it would be guided by another Q-5/ground-based designators; both Factory 612 and 613 in Shaanxi started their respective development on an LGB and the targeting pod. A few brand-new Q-5Ds were then modified into Q-5E and Q-5F as the carrier and designator respectively, where Q-5F would guide the bombs dropped from Q-5E onto the target. Although both jets passed for certification in the early 2000s, it was deemed that 2 separated jets for a run wasn't viable and the project was ditched.

In the mid-1990s, after the previous projects of A-5M and A-5K were canceled by the 1989 Crackdown, the PLAAF requested for a domestic digital upgrade for later batches of Q-5III and Q-5D with new HUD and sensors for precision assaults, as well as as the placeholder before the XAC JH-7 Feibao (NATO: Flounder) entered mass-production. Those jets which were modified from the Q-5III were designated Q-5L with new antennas and stabilized opto-electronic camera in the nose for target acquisition, as well as the capability of carrying the targeting pod on its own for attack runs. With the older avionics replaced with more advanced ones, the new jet entered service in 2005 alongside Q-5Ns that were modified from the Q-5D and served as the economical alternatives to new jets before they were eventually replaced by fighters with multirole features such as J-10A, Feibao, and Flankers in 2017.

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See also

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