Lorraine 155 Mle.50

Lorraine 155 Mle.50

Lorraine 155 Mle.50

France

III Rank

Battle rating:

AB	RB	SB
4.3	4.3	4.3

Class:

PREMIUM

Tank destroyer

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Description

The Lorraine automoteur de 155 mm modèle 1950 (shortened as Lorraine 155 Mle.50) is a premium gift rank III French tank destroyer with a battle rating of 4.3 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced in Update 1.77 "Advancing Storm" as a reward during the 2018 WW2 Chronicles.

General info

Survivability and armour

The Lorraine 155 Mle.50 has very little armour (although some are sloped enough to deflect certain low-calibre rounds), and can generally be penetrated by most guns of its rank. Even worse, however, the 'casemate' (if it can even be called that) has very little armour, and in some places can be shot through with machine guns. The machine-gunner (operating the 20 mm gun) is completely standing in the open. Generally, you want to rely on good map placement and mobility, rather than armour.

Armour type:

• Rolled homogeneous armour (hull, superstructure)
• Wheel (tires)
• Structural steel (gun mount, gun breech, mudguards)

Armour	Front (Slope angle)	Sides	Rear	Roof
Hull	16 mm (70°) Upper glacis - Top 16 mm (60°) Upper glacis - Bottom 16 mm (cylindrical) Transmission housing 16 mm (73°) Lower glacis - Centre 20 mm (31°) Lower glacis - Sides	16 mm	10 mm Upper plate 10 mm (42°) Lower glacis	16 mm (20°) Front glacis 10 mm Centre & Rear 10+10 mm Radiator vent covers
Superstructure	16 mm (21°) Front glacis 10 mm (cylindrical) Gun shield	16 mm (30°) 16 mm (21-48°) Left ammo rack bulge	10 mm Sides	10 mm
Cupola	N/A	10 mm (cylindrical)		N/A

Notes:

• Suspension wheels are 10 mm thick while tracks, sprocket wheels, torsion bars, and return rollers are 20 mm thick.
• Belly armour is 10 mm thick.
• Gun breech is 150 mm thick, while the barrel itself is 25mm.
• Gun carriage around the gun is 20 mm thick, while the gun mount/traverse device is 40 mm thick.

Mobility

Game Mode	Max Speed (km/h)		Weight (tons)	Engine power (horsepower)		Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
	Forward	Reverse		Stock	Upgraded	Stock	Upgraded
Arcade	60	8	30	639	1,145	21.3	38.17
Realistic	55	8		398	600	13.27	20

Armaments

Main armament

155 mm L'Obusier de 155 Modèle 1950					Turret rotation speed (°/s)					Reloading rate (seconds)
Mode	Capacity	Vertical	Horizontal	Stabilizer	Stock	Upgraded	Full	Expert	Aced	Stock	Full	Expert	Aced
Arcade	30	-5°/+67°	±20°	N/A	5.3	7.3	8.9	9.8	10.5	26.00	23.00	21.20	20.00
Realistic					3.6	4.2	5.1	5.6	6.0

Ammunition

Penetration statistics
Ammunition	Type of warhead	Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
		10 m	100 m	500 m	1,000 m	1,500 m	2,000 m
M107	HE	54	54	54	54	54	54

Shell details
Ammunition	Type of warhead	Velocity (m/s)	Projectile Mass (kg)	Fuse delay (m)	Fuse sensitivity (mm)	Explosive Mass (TNT equivalent) (g)	Ricochet
							0%	50%	100%
M107	HE	563	43.1	0.0	0.1	6,860	79°	80°	81°

Smoke shell characteristics
Ammunition	Velocity (m/s)	Projectile Mass (kg)	Screen radius (m)	Screen deploy time (s)	Screen hold time (s)	Explosive Mass (TNT equivalent) (g)
M110	563	40.8	25	5	30	50

Ammo racks

Ammo racks of the Lorraine 155 Mle.50

Full ammo	1st rack empty	2nd rack empty	3rd rack empty	4th rack empty	5th rack empty	6th rack empty	7th rack empty	8th rack empty	Visual discrepancy
30	29 (+1)	27 (+3)	23 (+7)	18 (+12)	15 (+15)	9 (+21)	6 (+24)	1 (+29)	No

Notes:

• Recommended loadout: 9 (+21) shells. It keeps most ammunition in the floor and out of sponsons.

Machine guns

20 mm MG151/20
Mount	Capacity (Belt)	Fire rate	Vertical	Horizontal
Roof cupola	400 (250)	701	-8°/+45°	±180°

The roof-mounted MG 151/20 autocannon is very good at knocking out tracks, punching through lightly armoured vehicles and shooting down low-flying aircraft. Use it sparsely because of its low ammo count. When losing a crew member, the machine gunner is used to replace other crew members, meaning that you can't use the 20 mm cannon anymore.

Usage in battles

The best method of using the large-calibre weapon on the Loraine is to exploit the high-explosive power against thin-armour on the enemy. Like other large calibre HE tanks, shooting below an enemy vehicle will penetrate its belly armor. This is an effective, albeit difficult way to engage tanks whose armor is greater than what your HE shell can penetrate.

Some targets to keep in mind of, and their weak points:

• Tiger I - While seemingly a hard enemy to face, the Tiger is easily dispatched with a side shot. A hit to the roadwheels will penetrate the tank, with the shell fragments going through the thin armor on the underside of the tank's sponson. This is also possible to do to Tiger IIs, but usually results in much less damage done.
• Tiger II P, Panthers D and A - a hit to the bottom of the curved turret face of these tanks will cause the HE shell to pen the roof of the vehicle. This can also be done on tanks with flat turret fronts ( Tiger I, Tiger II H, Panthers G and F) by aiming for the lower half of the turret, but is not as reliable.

Modules

Tier	Mobility		Protection	Firepower
I	Tracks		Parts	Horizontal Drive	M110
II	Suspension	Brake System	FPE	Adjustment of Fire
III	Filters		Crew Replenishment	Elevation Mechanism
IV	Transmission	Engine
This is a premium vehicle: all modifications are unlocked on purchase

Pros and cons

Pros:

• Powerful 155mm gun with a HE shell on-par with the KV-2's gun
• Pintle-mounted 20mm cannon that is deadly to lightly-armoured vehicles and aircraft
• Decent mobility
• Good reverse speed

Cons:

• Thin armor with an open casemate, allows even rifle-calibre rounds to affect the crew
• Despite thin armor, it's thick enough to trigger most fuses in APHE shells
• Large profile
• Long reload time; increases if the loader is taken out
• If the machine-gunner is knocked out, so is the ability to use the 20mm cannon
• No AP shells, only HE shells
• Bad gun depression of 5°

History

Prototypes of the Lorraine 155 Mle.50 passed trials in 1950, but never reached production.

Media

Skins

• Skin and Camouflages for the Lorraine 155 Mle.50 from live.warthunder.com.

Videos

The Shooting Range #96 - Metal Beasts section at 00:39 discusses the Lorraine 155 Mle.50.

High-explosive power discusses the Lorraine 155 Mle.50 at 0:50 - War Thunder Official Channel

See also

Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:

• reference to the series of the vehicles;
• links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.

External links

• [Wikipedia] Obusier de 155mm Modèle 50 (The gun)
• [Wikipedia] AMX-50 - Char Lorraine (The chassis)

France tank destroyers
Lorraine 40t derivatives	CA Lorraine · Lorraine 155 Mle.50
ATGM	MEPHISTO · AMX-10M
Other	AMR.35 ZT3 · Lorraine 37L · SAu 40 · ARL-44 · ELC bis · AMX-50 Foch · AuF1
USA	▄M10 GMC · ▄M36B2