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{{About | {{About | ||
|about=premium French medium tank '''{{PAGENAME}}''' | |about=premium French medium tank '''{{PAGENAME}}''' | ||
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|link=AMX-30 (Family) | |link=AMX-30 (Family) | ||
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== Description == | == Description == | ||
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[[File:GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|420px|thumb|left]] | [[File:GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|420px|thumb|left]] | ||
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| − | The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a premium rank {{Specs|rank}} French medium tank {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.89 "Imperial Navy"]]. | + | The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a premium gift rank {{Specs|rank}} French medium tank {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.89 "Imperial Navy"]]. |
== General info == | == General info == | ||
=== Survivability and armour === | === Survivability and armour === | ||
| − | The | + | <!-- ''Describe armour protection. Note the most well protected and key weak areas. Appreciate the layout of modules as well as the number and location of crew members. Is the level of armour protection sufficient, is the placement of modules helpful for survival in combat? If necessary use a visual template to indicate the most secure and weak zones of the armour.'' --> |
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| + | The armour protection, as common in many European MBTs such as the [[Leopard I]], isn't enough to stop anything apart from heavy machine guns and 30 mm shells (although the sides and the rear are vulnerable even to 20 mm autocannon such as those on the [[AMX 30]] and [[MBT 70]]), but sometimes the angles of the hull will bounce some shells. The turret is not great an most shells will penetrate it, often killing the gunner and blowing the ammunitions in the rear of the turret. Unlike the Leopard I, the AMX-30 Super is capable of carrying enough ammunitions in the turret, leaving the hull relatively safe, but this comes with a price: whenever the tank is hit in the turret, there's a high chance that the ammunitions will catch fire. | ||
The fuel tank in the hull can stop some heat shells, but it's not something to rely on. Given the high mobility of the tank and the two-plane stabilizer, the vehicle gives his best when moving fast and hitting the enemy from the distance. | The fuel tank in the hull can stop some heat shells, but it's not something to rely on. Given the high mobility of the tank and the two-plane stabilizer, the vehicle gives his best when moving fast and hitting the enemy from the distance. | ||
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| − | The {{PAGENAME}} is fast and nimble. Its engine gives a specific power of 1,622 | + | The {{PAGENAME}} is fast and nimble. Its engine gives a specific power of 1,622 hp in AB and 850 hp in RB/SB. With a power-to-ton ratio of 23.2 hp/ton in RB/SB and 44.4 hp/ton in AB, this tank can certainly traverse the terrains smoothly. Being about 36.5 tons, this tank is relatively lighter than its competitors of similar BR. This tank can go up to 72 km/h in AB and 65 km/h in RB/SB forwards and it goes up to -30 km/h in AB and -27 km/h in RB/SB reverse. |
== Armaments == | == Armaments == | ||
=== Main armament === | === Main armament === | ||
| − | <!--Give the reader information about the characteristics of the main gun. Assess its effectiveness in a battle based on the reloading speed, ballistics and the power of shells. Do not forget about the flexibility of the fire, that is how quickly the cannon can be aimed at the target, open fire on it and aim at another enemy. Add a link to the main article on the gun: <code><nowiki>{{main|Name of the weapon}}</nowiki></code>. Describe in general terms the ammunition available for the main gun. Give advice on how to use them and how to fill the ammunition storage.--> | + | <!-- ''Give the reader information about the characteristics of the main gun. Assess its effectiveness in a battle based on the reloading speed, ballistics and the power of shells. Do not forget about the flexibility of the fire, that is how quickly the cannon can be aimed at the target, open fire on it and aim at another enemy. Add a link to the main article on the gun: <code><nowiki>{{main|Name of the weapon}}</nowiki></code>. Describe in general terms the ammunition available for the main gun. Give advice on how to use them and how to fill the ammunition storage.'' --> |
{{main|CN-105-F1 (105 mm)}} | {{main|CN-105-F1 (105 mm)}} | ||
| − | The main armament | + | The main armament of the AMX-30 Super is the 105 mm CN-105-F1 cannon, which is very similar to the likes of the [[L7A3 (105 mm)|105 mm L7A3]]. This cannon fires APFSDS, HEAT, smoke and HE. It is recommended to at most keep 22 shells in the tank when playing Realistic Battles as its ready rack can carry 22 shells and this effectively removes most of the ammunition rack on the hull behind the fuel tanks (except 4 shells around the turret ring). It is recommended to take a loadout of mostly APFSDS with a few HEAT and Smoke shells just in case. The gun takes about 6.7 seconds to reload with an aced crew with max leadership and weapon reloading skill which is fairly standard among its competitors. The main shell, the OFL 105 F1 APFSDS is very capable of penetrating most of what it sees with a frontal shot as it has 350 mm of penetration on 0 degrees 500 meters away. The OCC 105 F1 HEATFS may be very useful against light targets such as SPAAG or Light tanks. The OFPH 105 F1 smoke shell provides extra ranged covering smoke in order to mask you or your team (possibly even blinding the enemy) in combat. |
=== Machine guns === | === Machine guns === | ||
| − | <!--Offensive and anti-aircraft machine guns not only allow you to fight some aircraft but also are effective against lightly armoured vehicles. Evaluate machine guns and give recommendations on its use.--> | + | <!-- ''Offensive and anti-aircraft machine guns not only allow you to fight some aircraft but also are effective against lightly armoured vehicles. Evaluate machine guns and give recommendations on its use.'' --> |
| − | {{main|M2HB (12.7 mm)| | + | {{main|M2HB (12.7 mm)|MG3A1 (7.62 mm)}} |
| − | The AMX-30 Super is armed with a coaxial 12. | + | |
| + | The AMX-30 Super is armed with a coaxial 12.7 mm (50cal) inside its turret right beside the cannon and a lighter 7.62mm (30cal) mounted on the roof near the commander's hatch. Although ditching the 20 mm which is typically armed in other AMX-30s, the machine guns equipped can still deal fair damage to very lightly armoured vehicles. | ||
== Usage in battles == | == Usage in battles == | ||
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=== Pros and cons === | === Pros and cons === | ||
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'''Pros:''' | '''Pros:''' | ||
| − | + | * Great mobility | |
| − | * Great mobility | ||
* Has stabilizer so it can shoot on the move unlike other AMX-30s | * Has stabilizer so it can shoot on the move unlike other AMX-30s | ||
* Good armour | * Good armour | ||
| − | * Armour can sometimes bounce shots | + | * Armour can sometimes bounce shots |
* Good survivability due to crews placement, as such is difficult to one-shot | * Good survivability due to crews placement, as such is difficult to one-shot | ||
* Fuel tanks may absorb the HEAT-FS shells and sometimes the APFSDS shells too | * Fuel tanks may absorb the HEAT-FS shells and sometimes the APFSDS shells too | ||
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'''Cons:''' | '''Cons:''' | ||
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* Commander's turret machine gun found on the French AMX-30s is replaced with MG3A1 which cannot deal very well with air targets | * Commander's turret machine gun found on the French AMX-30s is replaced with MG3A1 which cannot deal very well with air targets | ||
* The armour is still easily penetrated by other nations tank at the rank | * The armour is still easily penetrated by other nations tank at the rank | ||
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== History == | == History == | ||
| − | <!--Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the | + | <!-- ''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the vehicle in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).'' --> |
During the second half of the 80s, a group of companies in West Germany developed an extensive program to modernize certain outdated tanks, including the French AMX-30B. A number of improvements were made to the French tank in order to enhance its firepower, increase its dynamic characteristics, and (optionally) enhance its armour to a certain extent. | During the second half of the 80s, a group of companies in West Germany developed an extensive program to modernize certain outdated tanks, including the French AMX-30B. A number of improvements were made to the French tank in order to enhance its firepower, increase its dynamic characteristics, and (optionally) enhance its armour to a certain extent. | ||
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== Media == | == Media == | ||
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;Videos | ;Videos | ||
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== See also == | == See also == | ||
''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:'' | ''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:'' | ||
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* ''reference to the series of the vehicles;'' | * ''reference to the series of the vehicles;'' | ||
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.'' | * ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.'' | ||
== External links == | == External links == | ||
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* ''topic on the official game forum;'' | * ''topic on the official game forum;'' | ||
* ''encyclopedia page on the tank;'' | * ''encyclopedia page on the tank;'' | ||
| − | * ''other literature.''--> | + | * ''other literature.'' --> |
| − | * [[wt:en/news/6198-development-super-amx-30-the-stabilizer-is-ready-to-go-en|[Devblog | + | * [[wt:en/news/6198-development-super-amx-30-the-stabilizer-is-ready-to-go-en|[Devblog] Super AMX-30: The Stabilizer Is Ready to Go!]] |
{{France medium tanks}} | {{France medium tanks}} | ||
{{France premium ground vehicles}} | {{France premium ground vehicles}} | ||
Revision as of 18:50, 21 April 2020
Contents
| This page is about the premium French medium tank AMX-30 Super. For other versions, see AMX-30 (Family). |
Description
The AMX-30 Super is a premium gift rank VI French medium tank
with a battle rating of 9.3 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced in Update 1.89 "Imperial Navy".
General info
Survivability and armour
The armour protection, as common in many European MBTs such as the Leopard I, isn't enough to stop anything apart from heavy machine guns and 30 mm shells (although the sides and the rear are vulnerable even to 20 mm autocannon such as those on the AMX 30 and MBT 70), but sometimes the angles of the hull will bounce some shells. The turret is not great an most shells will penetrate it, often killing the gunner and blowing the ammunitions in the rear of the turret. Unlike the Leopard I, the AMX-30 Super is capable of carrying enough ammunitions in the turret, leaving the hull relatively safe, but this comes with a price: whenever the tank is hit in the turret, there's a high chance that the ammunitions will catch fire.
The fuel tank in the hull can stop some heat shells, but it's not something to rely on. Given the high mobility of the tank and the two-plane stabilizer, the vehicle gives his best when moving fast and hitting the enemy from the distance.
Mobility
| Game Mode | Max Speed (km/h) | Weight (tons) | Engine power (horsepower) | Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton) | |||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Forward | Reverse | Stock | Upgraded | Stock | Upgraded | ||
| Arcade | 73 | 52 | 36.5 | 1,317 | 1,622 | 36.08 | 44.44 |
| Realistic | 66 | 47 | 752 | 850 | 20.6 | 23.29 | |
The AMX-30 Super is fast and nimble. Its engine gives a specific power of 1,622 hp in AB and 850 hp in RB/SB. With a power-to-ton ratio of 23.2 hp/ton in RB/SB and 44.4 hp/ton in AB, this tank can certainly traverse the terrains smoothly. Being about 36.5 tons, this tank is relatively lighter than its competitors of similar BR. This tank can go up to 72 km/h in AB and 65 km/h in RB/SB forwards and it goes up to -30 km/h in AB and -27 km/h in RB/SB reverse.
Armaments
Main armament
The main armament of the AMX-30 Super is the 105 mm CN-105-F1 cannon, which is very similar to the likes of the 105 mm L7A3. This cannon fires APFSDS, HEAT, smoke and HE. It is recommended to at most keep 22 shells in the tank when playing Realistic Battles as its ready rack can carry 22 shells and this effectively removes most of the ammunition rack on the hull behind the fuel tanks (except 4 shells around the turret ring). It is recommended to take a loadout of mostly APFSDS with a few HEAT and Smoke shells just in case. The gun takes about 6.7 seconds to reload with an aced crew with max leadership and weapon reloading skill which is fairly standard among its competitors. The main shell, the OFL 105 F1 APFSDS is very capable of penetrating most of what it sees with a frontal shot as it has 350 mm of penetration on 0 degrees 500 meters away. The OCC 105 F1 HEATFS may be very useful against light targets such as SPAAG or Light tanks. The OFPH 105 F1 smoke shell provides extra ranged covering smoke in order to mask you or your team (possibly even blinding the enemy) in combat.
Machine guns
The AMX-30 Super is armed with a coaxial 12.7 mm (50cal) inside its turret right beside the cannon and a lighter 7.62mm (30cal) mounted on the roof near the commander's hatch. Although ditching the 20 mm which is typically armed in other AMX-30s, the machine guns equipped can still deal fair damage to very lightly armoured vehicles.
Usage in battles
Describe the tactics of playing in the vehicle, the features of using vehicles in the team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view but instead give the reader food for thought. Describe the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).
Pros and cons
Pros:
- Great mobility
- Has stabilizer so it can shoot on the move unlike other AMX-30s
- Good armour
- Armour can sometimes bounce shots
- Good survivability due to crews placement, as such is difficult to one-shot
- Fuel tanks may absorb the HEAT-FS shells and sometimes the APFSDS shells too
- Has access to a variety of ammunition rounds
- Premium bonus
Cons:
- Commander's turret machine gun found on the French AMX-30s is replaced with MG3A1 which cannot deal very well with air targets
- The armour is still easily penetrated by other nations tank at the rank
- Most of the times, the shots that penetrate the tank will take out the engine
History
During the second half of the 80s, a group of companies in West Germany developed an extensive program to modernize certain outdated tanks, including the French AMX-30B. A number of improvements were made to the French tank in order to enhance its firepower, increase its dynamic characteristics, and (optionally) enhance its armour to a certain extent.
The tank’s firing potential was improved thanks to the installation of a MOLF fire control system with a stabilized sight and a stabilizer for the main gun. The tank’s mobility was enhanced with a new 850-horsepower diesel engine, a German automatic transmission, and new torsion bars and hydraulic shock absorbers. The new tank was demonstrated to the public under the name “Super AMX-30” during testing in Saudi Arabia, but no buyers were found for the upgraded French tank, and only one Super AMX-30 was ever made.
- From Devblog
Media
- Videos
The Shooting Range #153 - Metal Beasts section at 00:35 discusses the AMX-30 Super.
Premium Vehicles: Super AMX-30 - War Thunder Wiki
See also
Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:
- reference to the series of the vehicles;
- links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.
External links
| France medium tanks | |
|---|---|
| M4 Derivatives | M4A1 (FL10) · M4A4 (SA50) |
| AMX-50 | AMX M4 · AMX-50 (TOA100) · AMX-50 (TO90/930) |
| AMX-30 | AMX-30 · AMX-30 (1972) · AMX-30B2 · AMX-30B2 BRENUS · AMX-30 ACRA · AMX-30 Super |
| AMX-32/40 | AMX-32 · AMX-32 (105) · AMX-40 |
| Leclerc | Leclerc · Leclerc S2 · Leclerc SXXI · Leclerc AZUR |
| Other | D2 · S.35 · Lorraine 40t |
| Germany | Panther "Dauphiné" |
| USA | ▄M4A1 · ▄M4A3 (105) · ▄M4A4 · ▄M26 |
| France premium ground vehicles | |
|---|---|
| Light tanks | AMD.35 (SA35) · H.39 "Cambronne" · LVT-4/40 · AMX-13 (SS.11) · AMX-13-M24 · E.B.R. (1954) · E.B.R. (1963) · VBCI-2 (MCT30) |
| Medium tanks | M4A1 (FL10) · Panther "Dauphiné" · AMX-30 · AMX-30 Super · AMX-50 (TO90/930) |
| Heavy tanks | B1 ter · 2C bis · Somua SM |
| Tank destroyers | Lorraine 155 Mle.50 |
