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The turrets have a traverse and elevation speed of 8.5 degrees per second, which is very sluggish. Both forward and rear turrets have a 150 degree traverse radius, with a relatively high elevation at +50 degrees and -10 degrees of gun depression. The Z47's dual-purpose turrets, unique among German destroyers can be utilized more effectively as anti-aircraft batteries, though its sluggish traverse may prove to be frustrating.
 
The turrets have a traverse and elevation speed of 8.5 degrees per second, which is very sluggish. Both forward and rear turrets have a 150 degree traverse radius, with a relatively high elevation at +50 degrees and -10 degrees of gun depression. The Z47's dual-purpose turrets, unique among German destroyers can be utilized more effectively as anti-aircraft batteries, though its sluggish traverse may prove to be frustrating.
  
You can carry up to 720 shells. Z47 doesn't have a lot of ammunition choices, with the only available shells being normal HE and time fuzed HE. The HE shell is your go to for every match. It has decent explosive filler and muzzle velocity of 830 m/s. The time fuze shell is identical in every way except that it has a time fuze, which makes it somewhat useful against aircraft; while it may lack the accuracy of the proximity fuze shells of American and British destroyers, it is made up for by the gun's reload time and high elevation.
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You can carry up to 720 shells. Z47 doesn't have a lot of ammunition choices, with the only available shells being normal HE and time fused HE. The HE shell is your go to for every match. It has decent explosive filler and muzzle velocity of 830 m/s. The time fuse shell is identical in every way except that it has a time fuse, which makes it somewhat useful against aircraft; while it may lack the accuracy of the proximity fuse shells of American and British destroyers, it is made up for by the gun's reload time and high elevation.
  
 
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== Usage in battles ==
 
== Usage in battles ==
 
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'''Specific enemies worth noting'''
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* [[Z46]] - Tech tree equivalent. Has exactly the same main armament, but much weaker secondary and anti-air guns, along with an addition of the naval mines.
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* US Navy destroyers - More heavily armed vessels, with their primary weapon being an excellent [[5 inch/38 Mk.12 (127 mm)|5 inch/38 Mk.12]] featuring a wide choice of munition that the Z47 lacks - most notably the SAP and HE-VT shells. They all can be destroyed by simply hitting the ammunition store beyond the aft turret, but for Z47 it's extra-difficult due to having access to only the high-explosive shells.
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* [[Le Malin]] - Rarely seen destroyer, but vastly superior in armament and speed, while also having an aft ammo rack somewhat more difficult to destroy than on the US destroyers once the ready-use ammo racks are depleted. Generally best avoided at all cost.
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* Low BR cruisers (such as [[IJN Isuzu]], [[IJN Kako]], [[RN Etna]]) - these vessels are a very difficult compromise, typically lacking survivability, armament and/or speed. They are best harassed with the main gun fire (preferably destroying main gun turrets) and destroyed with your excellent torpedoes from a close range. Alternatively, they are best left for the friendly destroyers equipped with SAP shells.
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* [[SKR-7]] - short-range encounters should be avoided at all costs, as the [[RBU-6000]] can easily sink any destroyer. The safest way to destroy SKR is to first disable its main gun and then hitting mid and aft section of the ship. SKR has a widely spread-out crew, thus distributing fire on the target is mandatory.
  
 
=== Pros and cons ===
 
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* Vulnerable to cruisers
 
* Vulnerable to cruisers
 
* Thin armour provides little protection against SAP and AP shells
 
* Thin armour provides little protection against SAP and AP shells
* No proximity fuze for the 12.8 cm HE shells limiting effectiveness against aircraft
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* No proximity fuse for the 12.8 cm HE shells limiting effectiveness against aircraft
 
* Lack of any armour piercing ammunition makes it hard to kill heavily armoured ships
 
* Lack of any armour piercing ammunition makes it hard to kill heavily armoured ships
 
* Slower than contemporary destroyers
 
* Slower than contemporary destroyers
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== Media ==
 
== Media ==
 
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== See also ==
 
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* ''reference to the series of the ship;''
 
* ''reference to the series of the ship;''
 
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.'' -->
 
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;[[Type 1936 (Family)|Related development]]
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== External links ==
 
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* ''other literature.''
 
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{{ShipManufacturer DeSchiMAG}}
 
{{Germany destroyers}}
 
{{Germany destroyers}}
 
{{Germany premium ships}}
 
{{Germany premium ships}}

Latest revision as of 17:37, 4 November 2024

Rank VI USSR | Premium | Golden Eagles
Su-25K Pack
Z47
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Z47
AB RB SB
4.7 4.7 4.7
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Show in game

Description

The Type 1936C, Z47, project is a premium rank III German destroyer with a battle rating of 4.7 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced in Update "Apex Predators".

General info

Survivability and armour

Armourfront / side / back
Citadel0 / 11 / 13 mm
Main fire tower10 / 8 / 10 mm
Hull16 mm (steel)
Superstructure8 mm (steel)
Number of section7
Displacement3 683 t
Crew320 people

Talk about the vehicle's armour. Note the most well-defended and most vulnerable zones, e.g. the ammo magazine. Evaluate the composition of components and assemblies responsible for movement and manoeuvrability. Evaluate the survivability of the primary and secondary armaments separately. Don't forget to mention the size of the crew, which plays an important role in fleet mechanics. Save tips on preserving survivability for the "Usage in battles" section. If necessary, use a graphical template to show the most well-protected or most vulnerable points in the armour.

Mobility

Speedforward / back
AB85 / 31 km/h
RB69 / 25 km/h

Write about the ship's mobility. Evaluate its power and manoeuvrability, rudder rerouting speed, stopping speed at full tilt, with its maximum forward and reverse speed.

Mobility Characteristics
Game Mode Upgrade Status Maximum Speed (km/h) Turn Time (s) Turn Radius (m)
Forward Reverse
AB Stock ___ ___
Upgraded 85 31
RB/SB Stock ___ ___
Upgraded 69 25

Modifications and economy

Repair cost
AB2 337 Sl icon.png
RB2 371 Sl icon.png
Crew training10 000 Sl icon.png
Experts290 000 Sl icon.png
Aces700 Ge icon.png
Research Aces790 000 Rp icon.png
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
Talisman.png 2 × 260 / 600 / 50 % Sl icon.png
Talisman.png 2 × 154 / 154 / 154 % Rp icon.png
Modifications
Seakeeping Unsinkability Firepower
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Dry-Docking
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Rudder Replacement
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Propeller Replacement
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Engine Maintenance
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Damage Control Division
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Fire Division
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Smokescreen
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Shrapnel Protection
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Ventilation
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New Pumps
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Ammo Wetting
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37 mm HE clips
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Anti-Air Armament Targeting
Mods tank ammo.png
37 mm APT clips
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Auxiliary Armament Targeting
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128mm_ger_c41_naval_HE_dist_fuze_ammo_pack
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Primary Armament Targeting
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Improved Rangefinder
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Torpedo Mode

Armament

Primary armament

3 х Turret2 x 12.8 cm/45 SK C/41 naval gun
Ammunition240 rounds
Vertical guidance-10° / 55°
Main article: SK C/41 (128 mm)

The Z47 has 6 x 12.8 cm SK C/41 guns mounted on twin turrets, one fore and two aft of the superstructure. Four of the six guns are located aft, so to bring all guns to bear the Z47 has to present a broadside.

Derived from the land based 12.8 cm FlaK 40, the SK C/41 has identical performance to the 12.7 cm SK C/34 guns present on most German destroyers. Any player familiar with the ballistics of the SK C/34 will feel at home with the Z47's main armament.

The Z47 has one of the fastest firing rates of destroyer guns in the game, with a whopping 20 rounds per minute with first stage ammunition, and 18 rounds per minute after the first stage ammunition has been depleted. The first-stage ammunition holds about 20 rounds per gun. Z47's main battery can tear apart destroyers and even overwhelm cruisers with the volume of fire it can put out.

The turrets have a traverse and elevation speed of 8.5 degrees per second, which is very sluggish. Both forward and rear turrets have a 150 degree traverse radius, with a relatively high elevation at +50 degrees and -10 degrees of gun depression. The Z47's dual-purpose turrets, unique among German destroyers can be utilized more effectively as anti-aircraft batteries, though its sluggish traverse may prove to be frustrating.

You can carry up to 720 shells. Z47 doesn't have a lot of ammunition choices, with the only available shells being normal HE and time fused HE. The HE shell is your go to for every match. It has decent explosive filler and muzzle velocity of 830 m/s. The time fuse shell is identical in every way except that it has a time fuse, which makes it somewhat useful against aircraft; while it may lack the accuracy of the proximity fuse shells of American and British destroyers, it is made up for by the gun's reload time and high elevation.

Penetration statistics
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
1,000 m 2,500 m 5,000 m 7,500 m 10,000 m 15,000 m
Spgr. L/4,5 Kz (mHb) HE 25 25 25 25 25 25
Spgr. L/4,5 Zt.Z (mHb) HE-TF 36 36 36 36 36 36
Shell details
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Velocity
(m/s)
Projectile
mass (kg)
Fuse delay
(m)
Fuse sensitivity
(mm)
Explosive mass
(TNT equivalent) (kg)
Ricochet
0% 50% 100%
Spgr. L/4,5 Kz (mHb) HE 830 28 0 0.1 2 79° 80° 81°
Spgr. L/4,5 Zt.Z (mHb) HE-TF 830 28 0 0.1 3.2 79° 80° 81°

Secondary armament

7 х Turret2 x 3.7 cm FlaK-Lafette C/36 mounting
Ammunition4000 rounds
Belt capacity5 rounds
Fire rate250 shots/min

The secondary armament consists of 7 twin-mounted 3.7 cm Flak autocannons. This is one of the heaviest secondary armaments of any destroyer in the game.

The 3.7 cm Flak has excellent muzzle velocity, giving it a large effective range. With similar range and velocity as the 12.8 cm guns, they can be used to great effect against surface targets such as PT boats and frigates. It can also considerably damage destroyers, peppering the superstructure and disabling enemy turrets due to its high rate of fire.

They are also excellent AA guns, with a large explosive mass. Any shell that hits a plane will turn it to flying wreck.

The Universal belt is the best belt for the 3.7 cm Flak, with a balance between HE and AP shells, perfect for surface and air targets.

  • Universal: AP-T · HEF-I
  • 37 mm HE clips: HEF-I · HEF-I · HEF-I · HEF-I · AP-T
  • 37 mm APT clips: AP-T · AP-T · AP-T · AP-T · HEF-I

Penetration statistics
Ammunition Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
10 m 100 m 500 m 1,000 m 1,500 m 2,000 m
HEF-I 3 3 3 3 3 3
AP-T 67 64 53 42 33 26
Shell details
Ammunition Velocity
(m/s)
Projectile
mass (kg)
Fuse delay
(m)
Fuse sensitivity
(mm)
Explosive mass
(TNT equivalent) (g)
Ricochet
0% 50% 100%
HEF-I 845 0.62 0 0.1 44.03 79° 80° 81°
AP-T 815 0.7 - - - 47° 60° 65°

Anti-aircraft armament

2 х Turret2 x 2 cm/65 Flakzwilling 38 automatic cannon
Ammunition4000 rounds
Belt capacity40 rounds
Fire rate501 shots/min
2 х Turret4 x 2 cm/65 Flakvierling 38 automatic cannon
Ammunition8000 rounds
Belt capacity40 rounds
Fire rate480 shots/min

An important part of the ship's armament responsible for air defence. Anti-aircraft armament is defined by the weapon chosen with the control Select anti-aircraft weapons. Talk about the ship's anti-air cannons and machine guns, the number of guns and their positions, their effective range, and about their overall effectiveness – including against surface targets. If there are no anti-aircraft armaments, remove this section.

Additional armament

Setup 112 x 533 mm G7a torpedo
Main article: G7a (533 mm)

Describe the available additional armaments of the ship: depth charges, mines, torpedoes. Talk about their positions, available ammunition and launch features such as dead zones of torpedoes. If there is no additional armament, remove this section.

Usage in battles

Specific enemies worth noting

  • Z46 - Tech tree equivalent. Has exactly the same main armament, but much weaker secondary and anti-air guns, along with an addition of the naval mines.
  • US Navy destroyers - More heavily armed vessels, with their primary weapon being an excellent 5 inch/38 Mk.12 featuring a wide choice of munition that the Z47 lacks - most notably the SAP and HE-VT shells. They all can be destroyed by simply hitting the ammunition store beyond the aft turret, but for Z47 it's extra-difficult due to having access to only the high-explosive shells.
  • Le Malin - Rarely seen destroyer, but vastly superior in armament and speed, while also having an aft ammo rack somewhat more difficult to destroy than on the US destroyers once the ready-use ammo racks are depleted. Generally best avoided at all cost.
  • Low BR cruisers (such as IJN Isuzu, IJN Kako, RN Etna) - these vessels are a very difficult compromise, typically lacking survivability, armament and/or speed. They are best harassed with the main gun fire (preferably destroying main gun turrets) and destroyed with your excellent torpedoes from a close range. Alternatively, they are best left for the friendly destroyers equipped with SAP shells.
  • SKR-7 - short-range encounters should be avoided at all costs, as the RBU-6000 can easily sink any destroyer. The safest way to destroy SKR is to first disable its main gun and then hitting mid and aft section of the ship. SKR has a widely spread-out crew, thus distributing fire on the target is mandatory.

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Very fast rate of fire with the main guns
  • 50 degrees of gun elevation allows the main guns to fire against enemy aircraft
  • Extremely heavy AA armament for a ship of its size
  • Comes with armour covering most of the ship and the ammo elevators
  • Relatively large crew of 320 allows it to survive longer in a firefight
  • Carries 12 torpedoes, more than any German destroyer
  • Large secondary armament effective against surface and air targets

Cons:

  • Sluggish turret traverse for the main battery
  • Two of the three turrets are located aft, needs to reveal broadside to fire all guns
  • Vulnerable to cruisers
  • Thin armour provides little protection against SAP and AP shells
  • No proximity fuse for the 12.8 cm HE shells limiting effectiveness against aircraft
  • Lack of any armour piercing ammunition makes it hard to kill heavily armoured ships
  • Slower than contemporary destroyers

History

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Media

Skins

See also

Related development

External links

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  • other literature.


Deutsche Schiff- und Maschinenbau Aktiengesellschaft
Destroyers 
Type 1934A  Kleber**
Type 1936  Z20 Karl Galster · Z22 Anton Schmitt
Type 1936A  Z25 · Marceau*** · Z32
Type 1936B  Z43
Type 1936C  Z46 · Z47
Battleships 
Nassau-class  SMS Westfalen*
  *Previously Aktien-Gesellschaft „Weser"
  **Z6 Theodor Riedel before war reparation to France
  ***Z31 before war reparation to France

Germany destroyers
  Torpedo boats
Type 1924  Jaguar · Leopard · Luchs
Type 1939  T22 · T31
  Destoyers
Type 1934A  Z12 Erich Giese · Z15 Erich Steinbrinck
Type 1936  Z20 Karl Galster · Z22 Anton Schmitt
Type 1936A  Z25 · Z32
Type 1936B  Z43
Type 1936C  Z46 · Z47

Germany premium ships
Motor torpedo boats  LS 4 Esau · KM-5 · S-204 Lang · S-701
Minelayers  VS-8
Sub-chasers  M-802
Frigates  Lübeck
Destroyers  Jaguar · Luchs · T31 · Z20 Karl Galster · Z25 · Z47
Light cruisers  Karlsruhe
Heavy cruisers  Prinz Eugen
Battleships  SMS Nassau