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AMR.35 ZT3

Lorraine 37L

AMR.35 ZT3

AB	RB	SB
1.0	1.0	1.0

Class:

Tank destroyer

Research:2 900

Purchase:700

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Description

The Automitrailleuse de Reconnaissance AMR 35 ZT3 was an upgraded version of the AMR.33 light tank, addressing issues with tracks and suspension. Despite being larger and heavier, it was faster and more manoeuvrable thanks to a bigger engine and improved suspension. During the Battle for France in 1940, 167 of these tanks were in service, many equipped with 13.2 mm machine guns. A subvariant called ZT3 was planned to carry a 25 mm anti-tank gun, but only ten were produced and issued before France surrendered.

It was introduced in Update 1.75 "La Résistance". Featuring a quick-firing "stabilized" 25 mm gun, good mobility and bulletproof armour, it differs greatly from other rank 1 French tanks while offering similar gameplay to the Soviet ASU-57. It is arguably the best first French tank to research. Due to its very poor all around protection the tank is not very survivable, and it's not armoured enough to withstand artillery barrages or heavy MG fire. However, with its 25 mm anti-tank gun, it can penetrate and destroy many other vehicles around its BR, specially if its good mobility is used in flanking manoeuvres.

General info

Survivability and armour

Armourfront / side / back

Hull13 / 13 / 10

Turret13 / 13 / 10

Crew2 people

Visibility65 %

With only 13 mm all-around, this is not a frontline tank and it should fear artillery barrages, bombs and strafing aircraft. Distance is your main defense since most rank 1 guns are inaccurate, often missing such a small target. Any penetrating shot from another tank can easily disable this tank.

Armour type:

Rolled homogeneous armour (hull, superstructure)
Cast homogeneous armour (cupola)

Armour	Front (Slope angle)	Sides	Rear	Roof
Hull	6 mm (76°) Upper glacis 13 mm (19°) Lower plate 13 mm (35°) Lower glacis	13 mm	10 mm (23°) Top 10 mm (34°) Radiator shaft 10 mm (34°) Bottom	6 mm (14°) Front glacis 5 mm Vents
Superstructure	13+20 mm Gun mantlet 13 mm (19°) Upper plate	13 mm (0-31°)	10 mm	6 mm (12°) Front 6 mm Centre and rear 5 mm Vents
Cupola	13 mm (11°)	13 mm (14°)	13 mm (4°)	13 mm

Notes:

Suspension wheels and bogies are 20 mm thick while tracks are 15 mm thick.
An add-on suspension wheel (20 mm) covers the radiator shaft

Mobility

Speedforward / back

AB65 / 8 km/h

RB and SB60 / 7 km/h

Number of gears5 forward

1 back

Weight6.5 t

Engine power

AB156 hp

RB and SB82 hp

Power-to-weight ratio

AB24.0 hp/t

RB and SB12.6 hp/t

Game Mode	Max Speed (km/h)		Weight (tons)	Engine power (horsepower)		Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
Game Mode	Forward	Reverse	Weight (tons)	Stock	Upgraded	Stock	Upgraded
Arcade	65	8	6.5	116	156	17.85	24
Realistic	60	7	6.5	73	82	11.23	12.62

This light chassis can be carried wherever it is needed in no time. It is quite fast and manoeuvrable but loses a good amount of speed when going off-road due to narrow tracks.

Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference

AB90 → 111

RB112 → 138

SB126 → 155

Total cost of modifications2 970

895

Talisman cost190

Crew training200

Experts1 000

Aces20

Research Aces96 000

Reward for battleAB / RB / SB

10 / 20 / 20 %

100 / 100 / 100 %

Modifications

Mobility

Protection

Firepower

Tracks Research: 200 Cost: 60 45
Suspension Research: 165 Cost: 50 40	Brake System Research: 165 Cost: 50 40
Filters Research: 250 Cost: 75 60
Transmission Research: 480 Cost: 145 110	Engine Research: 480 Cost: 145 110

Improved Parts

Research:

200

Cost:

60

45

Improved FPE

Research:

165

Cost:

50

40

Crew Replenishment

Research:

250

Cost:

75

60

Horizontal Drive

Research:

200

Cost:

60

45

Adjustment of Fire

Research:

165

Cost:

50

40

Elevation Mechanism

Research:

250

Cost:

75

60

Armaments

Main armament

25 mm SA35 L/72 cannon

Shoulder stabilizer

Reduces the swing of the gun in one plane while moving

Ammunition78 rounds

Reloadbasic crew → aces

3.9 → 3.0 s

Vertical guidance-10° / 13°

Horizontal guidance-5° / 5°

Main article: SA35 L/72 (25 mm)

25 mm SA35 L/72					Turret rotation speed (°/s)					Reloading rate (seconds)
Mode	Capacity	Vertical	Horizontal	Stabilizer	Stock	Upgraded	Full	Expert	Aced	Stock	Full	Expert	Aced
Arcade	78	-10°/+13°	±5°	Shoulder	17.6	24.4	29.6	32.7	34.8	3.90	3.45	3.18	3.00
Realistic	78	-10°/+13°	±5°	Shoulder	11.9	14.0	17.0	18.8	20.0	3.90	3.45	3.18	3.00

The 25 mm SA 34 L/72 cannon is a breath of fresh air among its likes: it has decent penetration values and a 3.9 s reload time. Its good ballistic properties (flat trajectory) makes it easy to aim at usual combat ranges (~500 m). This gun comes with an enjoyable feature: it has a LOCK, which is a primitive form of stabilizer. It enables this tank to reliably shoot on the move in middle to far range (100 to 500 m). Or else, one can stop and shoot faster than other rank 1 tanks. The MAC 31 is a decent coaxial MG. The main downside this gun platform has is its limited gun traverse, which makes close-range engagements very hard.

Ammunition

Penetration statistics
Ammunition	Type of warhead	Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
Ammunition	Type of warhead	10 m	100 m	500 m	1,000 m	1,500 m	2,000 m
Mle1934 TP (Ch.F)	APC	71	68	56	44	34	27

Shell details
Ammunition	Type of warhead	Velocity (m/s)	Projectile mass (kg)	Fuse delay	Fuse sensitivity (mm)	Explosive mass (TNT equivalent) (g)	Ricochet
Ammunition	Type of warhead	Velocity (m/s)	Projectile mass (kg)	Fuse delay	Fuse sensitivity (mm)	Explosive mass (TNT equivalent) (g)	0%	50%	100%
Mle1934 TP (Ch.F)	APC	950	0.31	-	-	-	48°	63°	71°

Ammo racks

Ammo racks of the AMR.35 ZT3

Full ammo	1st rack empty	2nd rack empty	3rd rack empty	Visual discrepancy
78	55 (+23)	31 (+47)	1 (+77)	Yes

Notes:

As they are modeled by sets of 2, shells disappear from the rack only after you fire both shells in the set.
The visual discrepancy concerns the total number of shells as well as the number of shells per rack:
- 72 shells are modeled but you can pack 78 shells.
- Rack 3 is modeled as 24 shells but contains 30 shells.

Machine guns

7.5 mm MAC 31 machine gun (coaxial)

Ammunition3 300 rounds

Belt capacity150 rounds

Reloadbasic crew → aces

6.5 → 5.0 s

Fire rate551 shots/min

Main article: MAC 31 (7.5 mm)

7.5 mm MAC 31
Mount	Capacity (Belt)	Fire rate	Vertical	Horizontal
Coaxial	3,300 (150)	551	N/A	N/A

The small calibre of the MAC 31 machine gun makes it largely ineffective against all armoured vehicles but the ones with an open compartment. It still can be used to ping targets as a rangefinding help or to mow down minor obstacles blocking your line of sight.

Usage in battles

This is a good introduction to a typical tank destroyer's gameplay: a good gun on a fragile chassis and even more. With its low silhouette, the AMR can completely hide itself behind a wide variety of terrain features: wrecked tanks hulls, shallow hills, rocks, brick walls... Staying away from the fight and sniping for unsuspecting enemies. When spotted, choosing to reverse back into cover is a good decision.

Classical TD:

Hiding behind terrain and obstacles, using its good gun depression while staying at some distance from the target is the best way to use this TD in most situations. Applies well on any non-urban terrain.

Sneaking TD

This is a very situational way to play the AMR, mostly efficient in RB and SB games but still applicable to AB matches. This tactics relies on this tank's low silhouette: it can easily hide behind almost anything. Use this tactic to sneak onto an enemy's back or to lure the enemy team into a trap (needs a complying ally). Being a ninja AMR applies well to urban combat.

Pros and cons

Pros:

Fast compared to French low-tier vehicles
The 25 mm gun, though small, has a high penetration power and is stable on the move
Small calibre rounds can penetrate narrow spots unreachable for bigger calibres
The APC round has good post-penetration damage
-10° of gun depression angle
Competitive reload time
Low silhouette
Crew are not lined-up from the front
Asymmetric gun position allow for original gameplay
Side armour is actually thicker than frontal armour

Cons:

Two-men crew means that any knocked crew member ends up either as immobilization or back to the garage
Gun traverse is fairly limited, even for a TD casemate design
Anything punching harder than a MG will shred this vehicle
Narrow tracks offer poor off-road mobility
Big cupola makes a good target
Limited ammo choice

History

The Automitrailleuse de Reconnaissance (AMR) 35 was an improvement over the previous AMR.33 machine-gun armed light tank, which had suffered from poor tracks and suspension. Despite being larger and heavier, its bigger engine and improved suspension made it faster and more manoeuvrable than its predecessor. 167 of these light tanks, many armed with 13.2 mm machine guns in a standard turret, were in service during the Battle for France in 1940. A subvariant, the ZT3, was planned to carry the French standard anti-tank gun, the 25 mm, to serve alongside the machine-gun armed AMR.35s in the French light motorized units. A total of ten ZT3 are believed to have been produced and issued prior to the fall of France.

Media

Skins

Skins and camouflages for the AMR.35 ZT3 from live.warthunder.com.

Videos

AMR.35 ZT3, French, Tier-1, Tank Destroyer - Angry Nerd Gaming

External links

Renault
Tanks
Light tanks	AMC.34 YR · AMC.35 (ACG.1) · R.35 (SA38)
Medium tanks	D2
Tank destroyers	AMR.35 ZT3

France tank destroyers
Lorraine 40t derivatives	CA Lorraine · Lorraine 155 Mle.50
ATGM	MEPHISTO · AMX-10M
Other	AMR.35 ZT3 · Lorraine 37L · SAu 40 · ARL-44 · ELC bis · AMX-50 Foch · AuF1
USA	▄M10 GMC · ▄M36B2

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-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' (Recon Machinegun-car AMR 35 ZT3) is a rank {{Specs|rank}} French tank destroyer {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.75 "La Résistance"]]. Featuring a quick firing "stabilized" 25 mm gun, good mobility and bulletproof armour, it differs greatly from other rank 1 French tanks while offering similar gameplay to the Russian [[ASU-57]]. It is arguably the best first French tank to research.
+The '''{{Specs|name}}''' was an upgraded version of the AMR.33 light tank, addressing issues with tracks and suspension. Despite being larger and heavier, it was faster and more manoeuvrable thanks to a bigger engine and improved suspension. During the Battle for France in 1940, 167 of these tanks were in service, many equipped with 13.2 mm machine guns. A subvariant called ZT3 was planned to carry a 25 mm anti-tank gun, but only ten were produced and issued before France surrendered.
+It was introduced in [[Update 1.75 "La Résistance"]]. Featuring a quick-firing "stabilized" 25 mm gun, good mobility and bulletproof armour, it differs greatly from other rank 1 French tanks while offering similar gameplay to the Soviet [[ASU-57]]. It is arguably the best first French tank to research. Due to its very poor all around protection the tank is not very survivable, and it's not armoured enough to withstand artillery barrages or heavy MG fire. However, with its 25 mm anti-tank gun, it can penetrate and destroy many other vehicles around its BR, specially if its good mobility is used in flanking manoeuvres.
 == General info ==
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-This light chassis can be carried wherever it is needed in no time. It is quite fast and manoeuvrable but looses a good amount of speed when going off-road due to narrow tracks.
+This light chassis can be carried wherever it is needed in no time. It is quite fast and manoeuvrable but loses a good amount of speed when going off-road due to narrow tracks.
 === Modifications and economy ===
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-{{main|SA34 L/72 (25 mm)}}
+{{main|SA35 L/72 (25 mm)}}
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 |-
-! colspan="5" | [[SA34 L/72 (25 mm)|25 mm SA34 L/72]] || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
+! colspan="5" | [[SA35 L/72 (25 mm)|25 mm SA35 L/72]] || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
 |-
 ! Mode !! Capacity !! Vertical !! Horizontal !! Stabilizer
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 ==== Ammunition ====
-{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
+{{:SA35 L/72 (25 mm)/Ammunition|Mle1934 TP (Ch.F)}}
-! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
-|-
-! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
-! rowspan="2" | Type of<br>warhead
-! colspan="6" | Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
-|-
-! 10 m !! 100 m !! 500 m !! 1,000 m !! 1,500 m !! 2,000 m
-|-
-| Mle1934 TP (Ch.F) || APC || 71 || 68 || 56 || 44 || 34 || 27
-|-
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-! colspan="10" | Shell details
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-! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
-! rowspan="2" | Type of<br>warhead
-! rowspan="2" | Velocity<br>(m/s)
-! rowspan="2" | Projectile<br>Mass (kg)
-! rowspan="2" | Fuse delay<br>(m)
-! rowspan="2" | Fuse sensitivity<br>(mm)
-! rowspan="2" | Explosive Mass<br>(TNT equivalent) (g)
-! colspan="3" | Ricochet
-|-
-! 0% !! 50% !! 100%
-|-
-| Mle1934 TP (Ch.F) || APC || 950 || 0.31 || N/A || N/A || N/A || 48° || 63° || 71°
-|-
-|}
 ==== [[Ammo racks]] ====
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 |}
-Notes:
+'''Notes''':
 * As they are modeled by sets of 2, shells disappear from the rack only after you fire both shells in the set.
 * The visual discrepancy concerns the total number of shells as well as the number of shells per rack:
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 ! Mount !! Capacity (Belt) !! Fire rate !! Vertical !! Horizontal
 |-
-| Coaxial || 3,200 (150) || 551 || N/A || N/A
+| Coaxial || 3,300 (150) || 551 || N/A || N/A
 |-
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 '''Pros:'''
-* Fast compared to French low-tier vehicles.
+* Fast compared to French low-tier vehicles
-* The 25 mm gun, though small, has a high penetration power and is stable on the move.
+* The 25 mm gun, though small, has a high penetration power and is stable on the move
 * Small calibre rounds can penetrate narrow spots unreachable for bigger calibres
-* The APC round has good post-penetration damage.
+* The APC round has good post-penetration damage
-* -10° of gun depression angle.
+* -10° of gun depression angle
-* Competitive reload time.
+* Competitive reload time
-* Low silhouette.
+* Low silhouette
-* Crew are not lined-up from the front.
+* Crew are not lined-up from the front
-* Asymmetric gun position allow for original gameplay.
+* Asymmetric gun position allow for original gameplay
-* Side armour is actually thicker than frontal armour.
+* Side armour is actually thicker than frontal armour
 '''Cons:'''
-* Two-men crew means that any knocked crew member ends up either as immobilization or back to the garage.
+* Two-men crew means that any knocked crew member ends up either as immobilization or back to the garage
-* Gun traverse is fairly limited, even for a TD casemate design.
+* Gun traverse is fairly limited, even for a TD casemate design
-* Anything punching harder than a MG will shred this vehicle.
+* Anything punching harder than a MG will shred this vehicle
-* Narrow tracks offer poor off-road mobility.
+* Narrow tracks offer poor off-road mobility
-* Big cupola makes a good target.
+* Big cupola makes a good target
-* Limited ammo choice.
+* Limited ammo choice
 == History ==
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-The Automitrailleuse de Reconnaissance (AMR) 35 was an improvement over the previous AMR.33 machine-gun armed light tank, which had suffered from poor tracks and suspension. Despite being larger and heavier, its bigger engine and improved suspension made it faster and more maneuverable than its predecessor. 167 of these light tanks, many armed with 13.2 mm machine guns in a standard turret, were in service during the Battle for France in 1940. A subvariant, the ZT3, was planned to carry the French standard anti-tank gun, the 25mm, to serve alongside the machine-gun armed AMR.35s in the French light motorized units. A total of ten ZT3 are believed to have been produced and issued prior to the fall of France.
+The Automitrailleuse de Reconnaissance (AMR) 35 was an improvement over the previous AMR.33 machine-gun armed light tank, which had suffered from poor tracks and suspension. Despite being larger and heavier, its bigger engine and improved suspension made it faster and more manoeuvrable than its predecessor. 167 of these light tanks, many armed with 13.2 mm machine guns in a standard turret, were in service during the Battle for France in 1940. A subvariant, the ZT3, was planned to carry the French standard anti-tank gun, the 25 mm, to serve alongside the machine-gun armed AMR.35s in the French light motorized units. A total of ten ZT3 are believed to have been produced and issued prior to the fall of France.
 == Media ==
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 ;Skins
 * [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=fr_amr_35_zt3 Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
 ;Videos
-{{Youtube-gallery|nVCobV8eS5A|'''{{PAGENAME}}, French, Tier-1, Tank Destroyer''' - ''Angry Nerd Gaming''|1URDdCKMNOY|'''{{PAGENAME}} Tank Review''' - ''NUSensei''}}
+{{Youtube-gallery|nVCobV8eS5A|'''AMR.35 ZT3, French, Tier-1, Tank Destroyer''' - ''Angry Nerd Gaming''}}
 == See also ==
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 ;Other vehicles of similar configuration and role
 * [[L3/33 CC]]
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 * [https://tanks-encyclopedia.com/ww2/france/Renault_AMR-35.php <nowiki>[Tanks Encyclopedia]</nowiki> Renault AMR-35]
+{{TankManufacturer Renault}}
 {{France tank destroyers}}

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Difference between revisions of "AMR.35 ZT3"

Latest revision as of 13:30, 26 February 2024

Contents

Description

General info

Survivability and armour

Mobility

Modifications and economy

Armaments

Main armament

Ammunition

Ammo racks

Machine guns

Usage in battles

Pros and cons

History

Media

See also

External links