T17E2

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RANK 6 SWEDEN
CV 90105 TML PACK
T17E2
uk_t17e2.png
AB
RB
SB
General characteristics
Brief
Detailed
1.7/1.7/2.3BR
Class
3 peopleCrew
84 %Visibility
front / side / backArmour
22 / 19 / 9Hull
31 / 31 / 31Turret
Mobility
12 tWeight
370 hp194 hpEngine power
30.8 hp/t16.2 hp/tPower-to-weight ratio
96 km/h forward
16 km/h back
88 km/h forward
15 km/h back
Speed
Armament
2 x 12.7 mm M2HB machine gunMain weapon
2610 roundsAmmunition
8 / 10.4 sReload
200 roundsBelt capacity
577 shots/minFire rate
-10° / 75°Vertical guidance
Economy
5900 Rp icon.pngResearch
6300 Sl icon.pngPurchase
Sl icon.png440 / 570/260 / 337/210 / 272Repair
1800 Sl icon.pngCrew training
6300 Sl icon.pngExperts
80 Ge icon.pngAces
106 % Rp icon.pngReward for battle
30 % Sl icon.png30 % Sl icon.png20 % Sl icon.png

Description

GarageImage T17E2.jpg


The T17E2 is a rank I British Self-Propelled Anti-Aircraft (SPAA) Gun with a battle rating of 2.3 (AB) and 1.7 (RB/SB). It was introduced in Update 1.55 "Royal Armour" along with the initial British ground tree. A very mobile self-propelled anti-tank gun with a dual-mounted .50 cal machine gun, it also has armour rivaling some of the Rank I vehicle and can withstand a majority of the small shells, warranting its high battle rating.

The T17E2 has two obvious characteristics. It has wheels, giving it excellent speed and mobility, especially on hard surfaces like rock or roads. The wheels also mean that it struggles in mud, sand or snow. Then, there are the guns, the T17E2 is armed with a seemingly light armament of two 12.7 mm (.50 cal) machine guns. Compared to other SPAA of the rank, the armament are light. German and Japanese SPAA are armed with highly potent 20mm auto cannons, which inflict far more damage to aircraft and vehicles alike. Instead, the T17E2 relies on its longevity and high rate of fire.

General info

Survivability and armour

Armour type:

  • Rolled homogeneous armour
Armour Front Sides Rear Roof
Hull 22 mm (47°) Front glacis
22 mm (43°) Lower glacis
15 mm (32°) Driver's port
19 mm (8-12°) 9 mm (2-53°) 12.7 mm
Turret 31.7 mm (2-42°) 31.7 mm (0-1°) 31.7 mm (2°) N/A
  • Wheels are 10 mm thick.
  • Belly armour is 12.7 mm thick.

Mobility

Game Mode Max Speed (km/h) Weight (tons) Engine power (horsepower) Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
Forward Reverse Stock Upgraded Stock Upgraded
Arcade 96 16 12 276 370 23 30.83
Realistic 88 15 172 194 14.33 16.17

Armaments

Main armament

Main article: M2HB (12.7 mm)

With two 12.7 mm machine guns, the T17E2 shares the same anti-aircraft armament as the early USA's SPAAs (M13 MGMC and M16 MGMC). While the 12.7 mm is not strong enough to down planes with a single hit, the rapid-fire will ensure a screen of rounds will hit the target at the same time. With tracers, one can use the turret's fast traverse rate to "trace" the rounds towards the target and stay on them to cause enough damage to destroy planes.

12.7 mm M2HB (x2) Turret rotation speed (°/s) Reloading rate (seconds)
Mode Capacity (Belt) Fire rate Vertical Horizontal Stabilizer Stock Upgraded Full Expert Aced Stock Full Expert Aced
Arcade 2,610 (200) 577 -10°/+75° ±180° N/A 37.87 52.41 63.64 70.38 74.87 10.40 9.20 8.48 8.00
Realistic 25.59 30.10 36.55 40.42 43.00

Ammunition

  • Common: API-T · I · AP · API-T - These rounds work well until the others are researched.
  • API: API-T · AP-I · API-T - These are absolutely devastating in the AA role with slightly less performance against enemy tanks than AP.
  • AP: AP · AP · API-T - These are best against enemy tanks at close range and do good damage to planes.
  • APIT: API-T - Better than API in all regards but not as good against tanks as AP, this is the belt of choice in almost all situations. Since every bullet is a tracer, it makes destroying aircraft much easier and detectability is not greatly increased over AP-I, however is increased a bit over AP.
Penetration statistics
Belt Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
10 m 100 m 500 m 1,000 m 1,500 m 2,000 m
Common 31 30 26 22 18 15
API 30 29 24 20 16 13
AP 31 30 26 22 18 15
APIT 30 29 24 20 16 13
Belt details
Belt Type of
warhead
Velocity
(m/s)
Projectile
Mass (kg)
Fuse delay
(m)
Fuse sensitivity
(mm)
Explosive Mass
(TNT equivalent) (g)
Ricochet
0% 50% 100%
APIT API-T 929 0.04 N/A N/A N/A 47° 56° 65°

Ammo racks

Ammo racks of the T17E2
Full
ammo
1st
rack empty
Visual
discrepancy
12 (+10) No

Optics

T17E2 Optics
Which ones Default magnification Maximum magnification
Main Gun optics x2.1 x3.7
Comparable optics M13 MGMC

Usage in battles

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Modules

Tier Mobility Protection Firepower
I Tires Parts API Horizontal Drive
II Suspension Brake System FPE AP Adjustment of Fire
III Filters Crew Replenishment APIT Elevation Mechanism
IV Transmission Engine Artillery Support

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Twin .50 calibre machine guns are good against both aircraft and lightly-armoured ground targets
  • High rate of fire
  • Good mobility
  • Fast turret rotation, good for hitting fast moving targets
  • Fast on roads
  • More efficient than tracked vehicles when turning, due to it having all wheel drive
  • Very effective against aircraft

Cons:

  • Wheeled vehicles are slower than tracked vehicles in the water
  • Cannot pivot turn like a tank, drives like a truck
  • Has difficulty against heavily-armoured tanks
  • Armour is only effective protecting against low calibre machine gun rounds

History

Development

The T17E2 started as an armoured car requested by US Army Ordnance in July 1941. The request asked for a medium armoured car for combat services. Two companies, Ford Motor Company and Chevrolet, submitted designs to this request, Ford's was an all driven 6x6 wheeled vehicle and Chevrolet's was an all driven 4x4 wheeled vehicle. These two were called T17 and T17E1 respectively, both were powered by two Hercules JXD engines in order to standardize on parts. These two vehicles were to use a turret developed by Rock Island Arsenal with a 37 mm cannon and machine guns, this would house a crew of five. Despite their development, the United States interest on the design waned and were never adopted fully by their armed forces, instead taking in the lighter M8 Greyhound car and using the T17 until the M8 production could be started. Had it been adopted, it would've been designated the M6.

British Adoption

During the T17's development, the British Purchasing Commission was also looking for a medium armoured car that could be used in the current campaign in North Africa. British requirements were a bit different than the American's and asked for the turret of the car to house at least two people and with a radio in the turret rather than in the hull. The British soon adopted the car and named it the "Deerhound", with production starting in October 1942. The T17E1 was also adopted as the "Staghound" and the British requested a production of 300 for testing, after which they then ordered another 1,500 for use. Production for the T17E1 also started on October 1942. When the US Army standardized their armoured cars to the M8 Greyhounds, the British vouched for the T17E1 production to continue for their use, to which the T17 was cancelled in early 1943 and only T17E1 were brought in by Lend-Lease. About 4,000 T17E1 "Staghounds" were produced in total for British use.

T17E2

While the armoured car variants of the T17 served as a light reconnaissance force and armoured car regiments, some were converted into self-propelled anti-aircraft guns. The T17E1 was modified with a new turret developed by Frazer-Nash that equipped two .50 caliber M2 Browning machine guns, this modified vehicle was given the name T17E2. The turret was open-topped, had an electric-hydraulic traverse system, and reduced the number of crew on the T17E2 to three: the commander, gunner, and driver. About 789 Staghounds were converted into the T17E2, also named the "Staghound AA", in the period of October 1943 and April 1944.

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See also

  • AC Mk II AA: The succeeding vehicle in the British SPAA branch, featuring 20 mm autocannons.
  • BTR-152A: A Soviet SPAA which also features dual-mounted machine guns atop an armoured car.

External links


Britain anti-aircraft vehicles
Light AA Mk I · T17E2 · AEC AA · Crusader AA Mk II · Crusader AA Mk I · Falcon · Chieftain Marksman · Stormer HVM