Staghound AA

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RANK VI USSR
T-72AV (TURMS-T) PACK
Staghound AA
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Staghound AA
AB RB SB
2.3 1.7 1.7
Class:
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Description

The Armoured Car, Staghound AA (T17E2) is a rank I British Self-Propelled Anti-Aircraft (SPAA) Gun with a battle rating of 2.3 (AB) and 1.7 (RB/SB). It was introduced in Update 1.55 "Royal Armour" along with the initial British ground tree. A very mobile self-propelled anti-tank gun with a dual-mounted .50 cal machine gun, it also has armour rivaling some of the Rank I vehicle and can withstand a majority of the small shells, warranting its high battle rating.

The T17E2 has two obvious characteristics. It has wheels, giving it excellent speed and mobility, especially on hard surfaces like rock or roads. The wheels also mean that it struggles in mud, sand or snow. Then, there are the guns, the T17E2 is armed with a seemingly light armament of two 12.7 mm (.50 cal) machine guns. Compared to other SPAA of the rank, the armament are light. German and Japanese SPAA are armed with highly potent 20mm auto cannons, which inflict far more damage to aircraft and vehicles alike. Instead, the T17E2 relies on its longevity and high rate of fire.

General info

Survivability and armour

Armourfront / side / back
Hull22 / 19 / 9
Turret31 / 31 / 31
Crew3 people
Visibility36 %

Armour type:

  • Rolled homogeneous armour
Armour Front Sides Rear Roof
Hull 22 mm (47°) Front glacis
22 mm (43°) Lower glacis
15 mm (32°) Driver's port
19 mm (8-12°) 9 mm (2-53°) 12.7 mm
Turret 31.7 mm (2-42°) 31.7 mm (0-1°) 31.7 mm (2°) N/A
  • Wheels are 10 mm thick.
  • Belly armour is 12.7 mm thick.

Mobility

Reverse gearbox
Forward and backward movement is possible at the same maximum speed
Speedforward / back
AB0 / 0 km/h
RB and SB0 / 0 km/h
Number of gears0 forward
0 back
Weight0.0 t
Engine power
AB0 hp
RB and SB0 hp
Power-to-weight ratio
AB0.0 hp/t
RB and SB0.0 hp/t
Game Mode Max Speed (km/h) Weight (tons) Engine power (horsepower) Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
Forward Reverse Stock Upgraded Stock Upgraded
Arcade 0 0 0 276 0 Division by zero. Division by zero.
Realistic 0 0 172 0 Division by zero. Division by zero.

Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference
AB280 → 363 Sl icon.png
RB270 → 350 Sl icon.png
SB410 → 531 Sl icon.png
Total cost of modifications5 950 Rp icon.png
4 480 Sl icon.png
Talisman cost410 Ge icon.png
Crew training1 800 Sl icon.png
Experts6 300 Sl icon.png
Aces80 Ge icon.png
Research Aces140 000 Rp icon.png
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
20 / 20 / 20 % Sl icon.png
106 / 106 / 106 % Rp icon.png
Modifications
Mobility Protection Firepower
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Tires
Research:
300 Rp icon.png
Cost:
230 Sl icon.png
60 Ge icon.png
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Suspension
Research:
270 Rp icon.png
Cost:
200 Sl icon.png
50 Ge icon.png
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Brake System
Research:
270 Rp icon.png
Cost:
200 Sl icon.png
50 Ge icon.png
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Filters
Research:
370 Rp icon.png
Cost:
280 Sl icon.png
70 Ge icon.png
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Transmission
Research:
640 Rp icon.png
Cost:
480 Sl icon.png
130 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank engine.png
Engine
Research:
640 Rp icon.png
Cost:
480 Sl icon.png
130 Ge icon.png
Mods tank tool kit.png
Parts
Research:
300 Rp icon.png
Cost:
230 Sl icon.png
60 Ge icon.png
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FPE
Research:
270 Rp icon.png
Cost:
200 Sl icon.png
50 Ge icon.png
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Crew Replenishment
Research:
370 Rp icon.png
Cost:
280 Sl icon.png
70 Ge icon.png
Mods tank ammo.png
12mm_usa_M2HB_API_ammo_pack
Research:
300 Rp icon.png
Cost:
230 Sl icon.png
60 Ge icon.png
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Horizontal Drive
Research:
300 Rp icon.png
Cost:
230 Sl icon.png
60 Ge icon.png
Mods tank ammo.png
12mm_usa_M2HB_AP_ammo_pack
Research:
270 Rp icon.png
Cost:
200 Sl icon.png
50 Ge icon.png
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Adjustment of Fire
Research:
270 Rp icon.png
Cost:
200 Sl icon.png
50 Ge icon.png
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12mm_usa_M2HB_APIT_ammo_pack
Research:
370 Rp icon.png
Cost:
280 Sl icon.png
70 Ge icon.png
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Elevation Mechanism
Research:
370 Rp icon.png
Cost:
280 Sl icon.png
70 Ge icon.png
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Artillery Support
Research:
640 Rp icon.png
Cost:
480 Sl icon.png
130 Ge icon.png

Armaments

Main armament

Main article: M2HB (12.7 mm)

With two 12.7 mm machine guns, the T17E2 shares the same anti-aircraft armament as the early USA's SPAAs (M13 MGMC and M16 MGMC). While the 12.7 mm is not strong enough to down planes with a single hit, the rapid-fire will ensure a screen of rounds will hit the target at the same time. With tracers, one can use the turret's fast traverse rate to "trace" the rounds towards the target and stay on them to cause enough damage to destroy planes.

12.7 mm M2HB (x2) Turret rotation speed (°/s) Reloading rate (seconds)
Mode Capacity (Belt) Fire rate Vertical Horizontal Stabilizer Stock Upgraded Full Expert Aced Stock Full Expert Aced
Arcade 2,610 (200) 577 -10°/+75° ±180° N/A 37.87 52.41 63.64 70.38 74.87 10.40 9.20 8.48 8.00
Realistic 25.59 30.10 36.55 40.42 43.00

Ammunition

  • Common: API-T · I · AP · API-T - These rounds work well until the others are researched.
  • API: API-T · AP-I · API-T - These are absolutely devastating in the AA role with slightly less performance against enemy tanks than AP.
  • AP: AP · AP · API-T - These are best against enemy tanks at close range and do good damage to planes.
  • APIT: API-T - Better than API in all regards but not as good against tanks as AP, this is the belt of choice in almost all situations. Since every bullet is a tracer, it makes destroying aircraft much easier and detectability is not greatly increased over AP-I, however is increased a bit over AP.
Penetration statistics
Belt Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
10 m 100 m 500 m 1,000 m 1,500 m 2,000 m
Common 31 30 26 22 18 15
API 30 29 24 20 16 13
AP 31 30 26 22 18 15
APIT 30 29 24 20 16 13
Belt details
Belt Type of
warhead
Velocity
(m/s)
Projectile
Mass (kg)
Fuse delay
(m)
Fuse sensitivity
(mm)
Explosive Mass
(TNT equivalent) (g)
Ricochet
0% 50% 100%
APIT API-T 929 0.04 N/A N/A N/A 47° 56° 65°

Ammo racks

Ammo racks of the Staghound AA
Full
ammo
1st
rack empty
Visual
discrepancy
12 (+10) No

Optics

Staghound AA Optics
Which ones Default magnification Maximum magnification
Main Gun optics x2.1 x3.7
Comparable optics M13 MGMC

Usage in battles

The T17E2 main role is anti aircraft. It is recommended to use tracer belts in order to be accurate yet deadly when engaging an enemy plane. It should be noted the T17E2 lacks capabilities to destroy enemy armor as most of them will be able to withstand your 12.7mm machine guns. Do not engage with enemy armor unless they are lightly armored (with armor less than 20mm of thickness) or open vehicles (other anti aircraft, russian SPGs, etc). Due to being a wheeled vehicle, the T17E2 has enough speed to capture enemy points and retreat. Use this tactic when there are no air engagements, go capture enemy points and avoid enemy contact unless you are in immediate danger or see an open vehicle, use your speed and low profile to your advantage. Bushes (both map prop and tank decoration) are your friends in combat as they will camouflage you and reduce your tank silohuette. Be aware of your turret as, since it is open top, enemy planes will be able to kill your gunner in a strafe. Be aware that enemy tanks machine guns will be able to fire between the turret shield and kill your gunner (where the optics are at).

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Twin .50 calibre machine guns are good against both aircraft and lightly-armoured ground targets
  • High rate of fire
  • Good mobility
  • Fast turret rotation, good for hitting fast moving targets
  • Fast on roads
  • More efficient than tracked vehicles when turning, due to it having all wheel drive
  • Very effective against aircraft

Cons:

  • Wheeled vehicles are slower than tracked vehicles in the water
  • Cannot pivot turn like a tank, drives like a truck
  • Has difficulty against heavily-armoured tanks
  • Armour is only effective protecting against low calibre machine gun rounds

History

Development

The T17E2 started as an armoured car requested by US Army Ordnance in July 1941. The request asked for a medium armoured car for combat services. Two companies, Ford Motor Company and Chevrolet, submitted designs to this request, Ford's was an all driven 6x6 wheeled vehicle and Chevrolet's was an all driven 4x4 wheeled vehicle. These two were called T17 and T17E1 respectively, both were powered by two Hercules JXD engines in order to standardize on parts. These two vehicles were to use a turret developed by Rock Island Arsenal with a 37 mm cannon and machine guns, this would house a crew of five. Despite their development, the United States interest on the design waned and were never adopted fully by their armed forces, instead taking in the lighter M8 Greyhound car and using the T17 until the M8 production could be started. Had it been adopted, it would've been designated the M6.

British Adoption

During the T17's development, the British Purchasing Commission was also looking for a medium armoured car that could be used in the current campaign in North Africa. British requirements were a bit different than the American's and asked for the turret of the car to house at least two people and with a radio in the turret rather than in the hull. The British soon adopted the car and named it the "Deerhound", with production starting in October 1942. The T17E1 was also adopted as the "Staghound" and the British requested a production of 300 for testing, after which they then ordered another 1,500 for use. Production for the T17E1 also started on October 1942. When the US Army standardized their armoured cars to the M8 Greyhounds, the British vouched for the T17E1 production to continue for their use, to which the T17 was cancelled in early 1943 and only T17E1 were brought in by Lend-Lease. About 4,000 T17E1 "Staghounds" were produced in total for British use.

T17E2

While the armoured car variants of the T17 served as a light reconnaissance force and armoured car regiments, some were converted into self-propelled anti-aircraft guns. The T17E1 was modified with a new turret developed by Frazer-Nash that equipped two .50 caliber M2 Browning machine guns, this modified vehicle was given the name T17E2. The turret was open-topped, had an electric-hydraulic traverse system, and reduced the number of crew on the T17E2 to three: the commander, gunner, and driver. About 789 Staghounds were converted into the T17E2, also named the "Staghound AA", in the period of October 1943 and April 1944.

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See also

  • AC Mk II AA: The succeeding vehicle in the British SPAA branch, featuring 20 mm autocannons.
  • BTR-152A: A Soviet SPAA which also features dual-mounted machine guns atop an armoured car.

External links


Britain anti-aircraft vehicles
Light AA Mk I · Staghound AA · AEC AA · Crusader AA Mk II · Crusader AA Mk I · Falcon · Chieftain Marksman · ZA-35 · Stormer HVM