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==== Ammunition ====
 
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The AP round is good to knock out crew members at it creates spalling. The solid shot does usually more damage inside enemy tanks than the APDS but its penetration power is lesser. When using APDS, target ammo racks (which it will easily set off). Know the weak spots on most vehicles s well as the crew's and modules' positions as you don't have rounds with explosive filler. The APDS shot can penetrate any Panthers' UFP, and also the Ferdinand's and Ho-Ri's frontal armour.
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== Usage in battles ==
 
== Usage in battles ==
 
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;Tips
 
 
* If you know the weak spots on most vehicles, try taking the solid shot, it usually does more damage inside enemy tanks.
 
* When using the APDS shot, you can penetrate the Panthers' UFP, and Ferdinand's and Ho-Ri's frontal armour.
 
* Bait your opponents into making a move at you, and then use your stabilizer to drive out and take a shot at them much faster than they can.
 
* If many of your teammates are dead, and you are likely to get surrounded - reverse closer to your spawn because your reload is not fast enough (6.4s with Aced crew).
 
* Don't rely on armour.
 
 
 
  
 
;Arcade Battles
 
;Arcade Battles
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To succeed in Arcade, you must learn to use your advantages, most notably the stabilizer and the APDS round. For example, whenever you are in a stand-off with a non-stabilized tank - get into cover, and when they try to drive out to hold your angle, you can also drive out and shoot them, because your gun will be ready to fire faster than theirs, even though they started driving out of cover before you.
 
To succeed in Arcade, you must learn to use your advantages, most notably the stabilizer and the APDS round. For example, whenever you are in a stand-off with a non-stabilized tank - get into cover, and when they try to drive out to hold your angle, you can also drive out and shoot them, because your gun will be ready to fire faster than theirs, even though they started driving out of cover before you.
 
 
  
 
;Realistic Battles
 
;Realistic Battles
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In Realistic Battles, most players prefer to take out the solid shot, because it has the potential to damage many more components while maintaining decent penetration values. However, you should take your time to aim this shot, because it will not penetrate some tougher enemies (e.g. Ferdinand, Ho-Ri Production, or IS-3/IS-4), or take some APDS rounds with you.
 
In Realistic Battles, most players prefer to take out the solid shot, because it has the potential to damage many more components while maintaining decent penetration values. However, you should take your time to aim this shot, because it will not penetrate some tougher enemies (e.g. Ferdinand, Ho-Ri Production, or IS-3/IS-4), or take some APDS rounds with you.
  
When playing the Caernarvon in Realistic Battles, try to play a supportive role. You don't know where the enemies are, and your armour will not save you from an ambush, so rely on your teammates to lead the way. Here, the sniping strategy is much more viable, because your round velocities are very high, making aiming over 1km much easier, moreover 10 degrees of depression allow you to play in hilly areas and take pot shots at unsuspecting enemies (especially the Russian tanks, who lack gun depression). You can still push forward with your team because your stabilizer still allows you to take much more accurate reactive shots (or when on the move).
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When playing the Caernarvon in Realistic Battles, try to play a supportive role. You don't know where the enemies are, and your armour will not save you from an ambush, so rely on your teammates to lead the way. Here, the sniping strategy is much more viable, because your round velocities are very high, making aiming over 1 km much easier, moreover 10 degrees of depression allow you to play in hilly areas and take pot shots at unsuspecting enemies (especially the Russian tanks, who lack gun depression). You can still push forward with your team because your stabilizer still allows you to take much more accurate reactive shots (or when on the move).
  
 
To succeed in Realistic, you must use cover and let your teammates take the shots. Usually, you will be able to return fire to avenge a teammate, and most of the time you get the kill, due to easy gun handling.
 
To succeed in Realistic, you must use cover and let your teammates take the shots. Usually, you will be able to return fire to avenge a teammate, and most of the time you get the kill, due to easy gun handling.
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* Access to gun stabilizer
 
* Access to gun stabilizer
 
* Wider tracks enables the Caernarvon to navigate through bad terrain much better than the Centurion Mk 3
 
* Wider tracks enables the Caernarvon to navigate through bad terrain much better than the Centurion Mk 3
* Can choose beetwen using the AP round and aiming for weak spots, or using APDS and aiming for ammo (which it will easily set off)
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* While a heavy tank, still has many weak spots in its armour
  
 
'''Cons:'''
 
'''Cons:'''
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* No explosive filler in any shells
 
* No explosive filler in any shells
 
* Weak side armour, should not be exposed in any way when engaging an enemy
 
* Weak side armour, should not be exposed in any way when engaging an enemy
* Top armour covering the engine is still only 8mm
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* Top armour covering the engine is still only 8 mm
  
 
== History ==
 
== History ==
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* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicleCountry=britain&vehicleType=tank&vehicleClass=heavy_tank&vehicle=uk_fv221_caernarvon Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
  
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;Vehicles equipped with the same chassis
 
;Vehicles equipped with the same chassis
 
 
* [[Conqueror]]
 
* [[Conqueror]]
  
 
;Vehicles equipped with the same gun
 
;Vehicles equipped with the same gun
 
 
* [[Charioteer Mk VII]]
 
* [[Charioteer Mk VII]]
 
* [[FV4202]]
 
* [[FV4202]]
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;Other vehicles of similar configuration and role
 
;Other vehicles of similar configuration and role
 
 
* [[T34]]
 
* [[T34]]
  

Revision as of 12:51, 24 February 2021

RANK 5 FRANCE
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uk_fv221_caernarvon.png
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Caernarvon
AB RB SB
7.7 7.7 7.7
Class:
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Purchase:240 000 Specs-Card-Lion.png
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Description

The FV 221 Caernarvon is a rank V British heavy tank with a battle rating of 7.7 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced along with the initial British tree line in Update 1.55 "Royal Armour". Featuring heavy armour on the hull with a Centurion Mk 3 turret, the Caernarvon provides adequate armour, mobility with the bite of a 20-pounder. The variant featured in the game is the Mark II, the experimental series with the 20-pounder whereas the Mark I was the initial prototype with a 17-pounder instead.

General info

Survivability and armour

Smoke grenades
Creation of a smoke screen in front of the vehicle
Armourfront / side / back
Hull127 / 51 / 38
Turret152 / 89 / 89
Crew4 people
Visibility139 %

Armour type:

  • Rolled homogeneous armour (hull, turret roof, cupola roof)
  • Cast homogeneous armour (turret, cupola)
  • Structural steel (side skirts, mudguards, storage boxes)
Armour Front (Slope angle) Sides Rear Roof
Hull 127 mm (60°) Upper glacis
76.2 mm (44°) Lower glacis
50.8 + 4 mm 38.1 mm Upper plate
20 mm (61°) Lower glacis
127 mm (30°) Front glacis
50.8 mm (0-7°) Driver compartment
18 mm Centre
8 mm Engine vent
8 + 18 mm (7°) Radiator vent
Turret 120 + 152 mm (cylindrical) Turret front - Centre
89-152 mm (5-11°) Turret front - Sides
100-152 mm (cylindrical) Gun mantlet
200 mm MG port
89 mm (5-9°) 89 mm Bustle
89 mm (17-22°) Turret base
50.8 mm (19°) Front
29 mm Centre
50.8 mm (4-32°) Peripheral edge
Cupola 152 mm (cylindrical) Base
29 mm (51-75°) Upper part
152 mm (cylindrical) Front half
90 mm (cylindrical) Rear half
90 mm (cylindrical) 29 mm

Notes:

  • Suspension wheels and bogies are 20 mm thick while tracks are 30 mm thick.
  • Steel boxes and side skirts located on the hull and turret sides add 4 mm of armour.

Mobility

Speedforward / back
AB37 / 13 km/h
RB and SB34 / 12 km/h
Number of gears5 forward
2 back
Weight61.0 t
Engine power
AB1 545 hp
RB and SB810 hp
Power-to-weight ratio
AB25.3 hp/t
RB and SB13.3 hp/t
Game Mode Max Speed (km/h) Weight (tons) Engine power (horsepower) Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
Forward Reverse Stock Upgraded Stock Upgraded
Arcade 37 13 61 1046 1,545 17.15 25.33
Realistic 34 12 716 810 11.74 13.28

Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference
AB4 914 → 6 378 Sl icon.png
RB5 249 → 6 813 Sl icon.png
SB7 502 → 9 737 Sl icon.png
Total cost of modifications68 700 Rp icon.png
117 600 Sl icon.png
Talisman cost1 900 Ge icon.png
Crew training68 000 Sl icon.png
Experts240 000 Sl icon.png
Aces990 Ge icon.png
Research Aces620 000 Rp icon.png
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
140 / 200 / 220 % Sl icon.png
184 / 184 / 184 % Rp icon.png
Modifications
Mobility Protection Firepower
Mods new tank traks.png
Tracks
Research:
4 800 Rp icon.png
Cost:
7 800 Sl icon.png
210 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank suspension.png
Suspension
Research:
3 200 Rp icon.png
Cost:
5 200 Sl icon.png
140 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank break.png
Brake System
Research:
3 200 Rp icon.png
Cost:
5 200 Sl icon.png
140 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank filter.png
Filters
Research:
4 500 Rp icon.png
Cost:
7 300 Sl icon.png
195 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank transmission.png
Transmission
Research:
7 700 Rp icon.png
Cost:
13 000 Sl icon.png
340 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank engine.png
Engine
Research:
7 700 Rp icon.png
Cost:
13 000 Sl icon.png
340 Ge icon.png
Mods tank tool kit.png
Improved Parts
Research:
3 100 Rp icon.png
Cost:
7 800 Sl icon.png
210 Ge icon.png
Mods extinguisher.png
Improved FPE
Research:
2 100 Rp icon.png
Cost:
5 200 Sl icon.png
140 Ge icon.png
Mods tank reinforcement uk.png
Crew Replenishment
Research:
4 500 Rp icon.png
Cost:
7 300 Sl icon.png
195 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank horizontal aiming.png
Horizontal Drive
Research:
4 800 Rp icon.png
Cost:
7 800 Sl icon.png
210 Ge icon.png
Mods tank cannon.png
Adjustment of Fire
Research:
3 200 Rp icon.png
Cost:
5 200 Sl icon.png
140 Ge icon.png
Mods tank ammo.png
84mm_britain_20pdr_APDS_ammo_pack
Research:
3 200 Rp icon.png
Cost:
5 200 Sl icon.png
140 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank vertical aiming.png
Elevation Mechanism
Research:
4 500 Rp icon.png
Cost:
7 300 Sl icon.png
195 Ge icon.png
Mods smoke screen.png
Smoke grenade
Research:
4 500 Rp icon.png
Cost:
7 300 Sl icon.png
195 Ge icon.png
Mods tank ammo.png
84mm_britain_Smoke_ammo_pack
Research:
7 700 Rp icon.png
Cost:
13 000 Sl icon.png
340 Ge icon.png

Armaments

Main armament

Two-plane stabilizer
Reduces the swing of the gun in two planes while moving
Ammunition65 rounds
First-order8 rounds
Reloadbasic crew → aces
8.1 → 6.3 s
Vertical guidance-10° / 20°
84 mm 20pdr OQF Mk.I Turret rotation speed (°/s) Reloading rate (seconds)
Mode Capacity Vertical Horizontal Stabilizer Stock Upgraded Full Expert Aced Stock Full Expert Aced
Arcade 65 -10°/+20° ±180° Two-plane 16.18 22.40 27.20 30.08 32.00 8.19 7.25 6.68 6.30
Realistic 11.90 14.00 17.00 18.80 20.00

Ammunition

The AP round is good to knock out crew members at it creates spalling. The solid shot does usually more damage inside enemy tanks than the APDS but its penetration power is lesser. When using APDS, target ammo racks (which it will easily set off). Know the weak spots on most vehicles s well as the crew's and modules' positions as you don't have rounds with explosive filler. The APDS shot can penetrate any Panthers' UFP, and also the Ferdinand's and Ho-Ri's frontal armour.

Penetration statistics
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
10 m 100 m 500 m 1,000 m 1,500 m 2,000 m
Shot Mk.1 APCBC 232 229 216 201 187 173
Shot Mk.3 APDS 285 283 262 239 218 198
Shell Mk.1 HE 15 15 15 15 15 15
Shell details
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Velocity
(m/s)
Projectile
Mass (kg)
Fuse delay
(m)
Fuse sensitivity
(mm)
Explosive Mass
(TNT equivalent) (g)
Ricochet
0% 50% 100%
Shot Mk.1 APCBC 1,000 9.1 N/A N/A N/A 48° 63° 71°
Shot Mk.3 APDS 1,400 3.2 N/A N/A N/A 75° 78° 80°
Shell Mk.1 HE 600 7.5 0 0.1 1,130 79° 80° 81°
Smoke shell characteristics
Ammunition Velocity
(m/s)
Projectile
Mass (kg)
Screen radius
(m)
Screen deploy time
(s)
Screen hold time
(s)
Explosive Mass
(TNT equivalent) (g)
20pdr Shell SS Mk.1 250 9.3 13 5 20 50

Ammo racks

Ammo racks of the Caernarvon
Full
ammo
1st
rack empty
2nd
rack empty
3rd
rack empty
4th
rack empty
5th
rack empty
65 64 (+1) 56 (+9) 48 (+17) 40 (+25) 32 (+33)
6th
rack empty
7th
rack empty
8th
rack empty
9th
rack empty
Visual
discrepancy
12 (+53) (+56) (+60) (+64) No

Notes:

  • Shells are modeled individually and disappear from the rack after having been loaded in the breech.
  • Racks 7, 8 and 9 are first stage ammo racks. They total 11 shells and get filled first when loading up the tank.
  • These 3 racks are also emptied first when firing: the rack depletion order at full capacity is: 7 - 9 - 8 - 1 - 2 until 6.
  • Simply not firing when the gun is loaded will move ammo from rack 1 then 2 until 6 into racks 9 then 8 and 7. Firing will interrupt the restocking of the ready racks.

Machine guns

Ammunition3 600 rounds
Belt capacity225 rounds
Reloadbasic crew → aces
10.4 → 8.0 s
Fire rate600 shots/min
Main article: BESA (7.92 mm)
7.92 mm BESA
Mount Capacity (Belt) Fire rate Vertical Horizontal
Coaxial 3,600 (225) 600 N/A N/A

The small calibre of the BESA machine gun makes it largely ineffective against all armoured vehicles but the ones with an open compartment. It still can be used to ping targets as a rangefinding help or to mow down minor obstacles blocking your line of sight.

Usage in battles

Arcade Battles

In Arcade Battles, it is recommended to take mostly APDS shells, because the gameplay is much more reactive and it's more important to penetrate an enemy vehicle wherever you hit - because you don't have time to aim, or the enemies are very fast-moving due to increased horsepower.

In terms of game strategies, the Caernarvon is very versatile (almost MBT-like). You can get into sniping positions and rain shells on all enemies that enter your line of sight (or target the more armoured vehicles such as the Ferdinand and the Ho-Ri Production, which are impenetrable to many tanks around 6.7); you can also serve as a breakthrough tank, not because of armour, but because of speed and the stabilizer which allows you to shoot on the move at enemies that dare block your path; or, you can flank, although that role is often taken by much faster vehicles such as Ru 251, BMP-1 and R3.

To succeed in Arcade, you must learn to use your advantages, most notably the stabilizer and the APDS round. For example, whenever you are in a stand-off with a non-stabilized tank - get into cover, and when they try to drive out to hold your angle, you can also drive out and shoot them, because your gun will be ready to fire faster than theirs, even though they started driving out of cover before you.

Realistic Battles

In Realistic Battles, most players prefer to take out the solid shot, because it has the potential to damage many more components while maintaining decent penetration values. However, you should take your time to aim this shot, because it will not penetrate some tougher enemies (e.g. Ferdinand, Ho-Ri Production, or IS-3/IS-4), or take some APDS rounds with you.

When playing the Caernarvon in Realistic Battles, try to play a supportive role. You don't know where the enemies are, and your armour will not save you from an ambush, so rely on your teammates to lead the way. Here, the sniping strategy is much more viable, because your round velocities are very high, making aiming over 1 km much easier, moreover 10 degrees of depression allow you to play in hilly areas and take pot shots at unsuspecting enemies (especially the Russian tanks, who lack gun depression). You can still push forward with your team because your stabilizer still allows you to take much more accurate reactive shots (or when on the move).

To succeed in Realistic, you must use cover and let your teammates take the shots. Usually, you will be able to return fire to avenge a teammate, and most of the time you get the kill, due to easy gun handling.

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Same armament as the Centurion Mk 3, has a very good stock round and access to APDS
  • Very fast reload for a large calibre
  • Fast turret and hull traverse
  • Good acceleration
  • The Caernarvon plays like a beefed up Centurion Mk 3
  • Brake system is very responsive
  • Access to gun stabilizer
  • Wider tracks enables the Caernarvon to navigate through bad terrain much better than the Centurion Mk 3
  • While a heavy tank, still has many weak spots in its armour

Cons:

  • Lower glacis is still a weak spot
  • Large ammo rack behind LFP (Can be removed by bringing less than 34 shells)
  • APDS shot does punctual damage
  • No explosive filler in any shells
  • Weak side armour, should not be exposed in any way when engaging an enemy
  • Top armour covering the engine is still only 8 mm

History

Development

In 1944, General Staff started a project called A45 Infantry Support Tank, which started around the same time as the development of the A41 Centurion cruiser tank. This project, after the war, was redesignated from a typical "Infantry Tank" and instead focused on a new role of a "Universal Tank" design in the form of the FV 200 series. The "Universal Tank" concept was to design a vehicle that would have a mobility comparable to that of cruiser tanks, but with the armour and firepower of heavy tanks. The FV 200 series designation was adopted and was to serve as a line of vehicles that used the same hull and chassis in different roles like armour recovery vehicles and self-propelled guns. The first tank of this series was to be the FV 201, which would be 55 tons and had the 20-pounder gun.

In 1949, a new requirement for the project called for the use of a 120 mm gun, possibly in response to the reveal of the Soviet IS-3 heavy tank in the Berlin Victory Parade in 1945. This new requirement would delay the initial deadlines for the tank as no gun of that caliber had been developed yet. As a interim development before such a gun could be made, the FV 201 hull was mounted with a turret from a Centurion Mk.2, which had a 17-pounder gun. This Centurion turret mated FV 201 tank was designated the FV 221 Caernavon, with a Mark I for the 17-pounder. The later combination of the Centurion Mk 3 turret instead of the Mk.2 upped the armament of the tank to the more powerful 20-pounder gun, this version named the Mark II. About 21 units of the Caernarvon Mark II was made in this method.

Successor

The Caernarvon, powerful as it was at the time period, was intended to fulfill the role of the new "Main Battle Tank" concept in the FV 200 series. However, the success of the lighter Centurion cruiser tank made it apparent that the Centurion was more capable in that role than the heavier and less mobile Caernarvon. Thus, this role was not given to the Caernarvon and its design was used instead for further chassis development for future tank development. In 1955, the basis of the Caernarvon was built into the first Conqueror tank. Several Caernarvon Mk.II's were rebuilt into Conqueror Mk. 2 standards in between 1958 and 1959.

Media

Skins
Videos

See also

Vehicles equipped with the same chassis
Vehicles equipped with the same gun
Other vehicles of similar configuration and role

External links


Britain heavy tanks
Matilda  Matilda III · Matilda Hedgehog
Churchill  Churchill I · Churchill III · Churchill VII · Churchill Crocodile · Churchill NA75 · Black Prince
Post-war  Caernarvon · Conqueror
Other  Independent · Excelsior · TOG II