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+ | | about = Swedish bomber '''{{PAGENAME}}''' | ||
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+ | | link = SAAB 18 (Family) | ||
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== Description == | == Description == | ||
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− | [[File: | + | [[File:T18B-2 in action for CAS role.jpg|thumb|250px|T18B in action for CAS role]] |
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Swedish bomber {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.95 "Northern Wind"]]. | The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Swedish bomber {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.95 "Northern Wind"]]. | ||
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+ | The T18B is an attacker/bomber designed to take out ground targets and give support. Designed and built by SAAB for use by the Swedish Air Force, it bears similarities to the [[T18B-1]]. The B-2 is the version which carries the 57 mm akan m/47 autocannon with a 41-round magazine to take out heavily armoured opponents. It is an attacker-in-disguise in terms of flight performance and firepower, with the downsides that come from housing a large-calibre autocannon. | ||
== General info == | == General info == | ||
=== Flight performance === | === Flight performance === | ||
{{Specs-Avia-Flight}} | {{Specs-Avia-Flight}} | ||
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+ | The flight performance of the T18B is very good. Powered by two Daimler-Benz DB 605B piston engines, this bomber offers twin-engine fighter grade flight performance even with the weight of the 57 mm cannon, achieving a respectable climb rate and a competitive turn radius. It also has an amazing level flight speed. Because the airframe was first designed for both torpedo bomber and dive bomber roles, this aircraft offers amazing low-speed manoeuvrability and respectable high-speed manoeuvrability, complementing the armament in targeting responsiveness. | ||
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+ | The T18B does not come equipped with the airbrake that was installed in the earlier T18B-1. | ||
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! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! - | ! Combat !! Take-off !! Landing !! + !! - | ||
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− | [[File:B18-T18 Armor Plates.png| | + | [[File:B18-T18 Armor Plates.png|250px|thumb|right|Protective components found in the {{PAGENAME}}.]] |
− | * 10 mm steel - | + | * 10 mm steel - Cockpit floor under pilot's seat |
− | * 10 mm steel - | + | * 10 mm steel - Pilot's seatback |
− | * 10 mm steel - | + | * 10 mm steel - Rear gunner protective plate |
− | * 10 mm steel - | + | * 10 mm steel - Cockpit floor under gunner's seat |
− | * 10 mm steel - | + | * 10 mm steel - Aft protective plate |
=== Modifications and economy === | === Modifications and economy === | ||
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{{Specs-Avia-Offensive}} | {{Specs-Avia-Offensive}} | ||
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− | {{main|Akan m/ | + | {{main|Akan m/47 (57 mm)|Akan m/41A (20 mm)|Akan m/39A (13.2 mm)}} |
The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with: | The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is armed with: | ||
− | * 1 x 57 mm Akan m/ | + | * 1 x 57 mm Akan m/47 cannon, chin-mounted (41 rpg) |
* 2 x 20 mm Akan m/41A cannons, chin-mounted (60 rpg = 120 total) | * 2 x 20 mm Akan m/41A cannons, chin-mounted (60 rpg = 120 total) | ||
* 1 x 13.2 mm Akan m/39A machine gun, nose-mounted (300 rpg) | * 1 x 13.2 mm Akan m/39A machine gun, nose-mounted (300 rpg) | ||
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+ | These belts are recommended: | ||
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+ | * 57 mm autocannon - "Ground Targets" is needed to knock the tanks without wasting ammo but if playstyle is switched to Bomber Interception, "Air Targets" is better suited. | ||
+ | * 20 mm cannons - Use "Air targets" belt for bomber hunting. | ||
+ | * 13.2 mm MG - "Air targets" is a good belt, because it contains a lot of High Explosive Fragmentation-Tracer rounds (HEF-T). | ||
=== Suspended armament === | === Suspended armament === | ||
{{Specs-Avia-Suspended}} | {{Specs-Avia-Suspended}} | ||
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The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance: | The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance: | ||
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+ | ! [[sb m/42 (50 kg)|50 kg sb m/42]] bombs | ||
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+ | ! [[hprak m/49]] rockets | ||
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+ | ! [[srak m/51]] rockets | ||
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* 8 x 50 kg sb m/42 bombs (400 kg total) | * 8 x 50 kg sb m/42 bombs (400 kg total) | ||
− | * 8 x psrak m/ | + | * 8 x psrak m/49B rockets |
* 8 x srak m/51 rockets | * 8 x srak m/51 rockets | ||
* 8 x hprak m/49 rockets | * 8 x hprak m/49 rockets | ||
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=== Defensive armament === | === Defensive armament === | ||
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The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is defended by: | The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is defended by: | ||
− | * 1 x 13.2 mm Akan m/39 machine gun, turret (300 rpg) | + | * 1 x 13.2 mm Akan m/39 machine gun, dorsal turret (300 rpg) |
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+ | Use the "Universal" belt, as the HEF-T bullet is good at knocking down enemies out of the sky. | ||
== Usage in battles == | == Usage in battles == | ||
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− | + | With its triple set of armament controlled separately, efficiency is the biggest key factor for CAS pilots who are looking to make a dent in the enemy's forces. Use the separate controls for primary, secondary, and additional armament to use them separately for different purposes. 57 mm for armoured targets, 13.2 mm for small targets that needs precision like machine gun nests or lightly armoured car convoys, 20 mm for large soft targets like anti-air emplacements or artillery positions. If you play CAS in Air RB, you are aware of the fact that enemy fighters at the start of the game will come after you. Therefore, it is highly recommended to sneak into the remote ground targets that are away from enemy airfields or to wait a little until after your team's fighters have established air superiority. To destroy as much as possible without having to return and rearm, trigger discipline is highly recommended. | |
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+ | '''Bomber interception''' | ||
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+ | Having a 57 mm autocannon opens up interesting possibilities against other bombers, especially heavy bombers with a sturdy airframe. With the altitude advantage you get from the airspawn, it is possible to catch the bombers before they get high above. But being a heavy twin-engine bomber, you will be vulnerable to the bomber's defensive fire. This is where the autocannon comes into play: most turrets at this BR won't be accurate enough to do sustained damage at 1.5 km distance and beyond, but your 57 mm cannon can. It is recommended to use the High-Explosive belts to destroy the target in a single hit, avoid the Armour-piercing belt that causes the shell to go straight on without further damage. If you struggle with the leading of the gun without tracers, the AP-T belt might be better suited for the player. | ||
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=== Pros and cons === | === Pros and cons === | ||
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'''Pros:''' | '''Pros:''' | ||
− | * | + | * Excellent offensive armament |
− | * | + | * The 57 mm cannon is effective against ground targets. |
− | * Very fast | + | * Very fast and agile for its class. |
− | + | * Can carry up extra rockets and bombs added to the offensive armament. | |
− | * Can carry up | + | * Very good in a bomber hunter role. |
− | * Very good bomber hunter | + | * Sturdy airframe. |
'''Cons:''' | '''Cons:''' | ||
− | * Only one turret | + | * Only one turret, gunner is vulnerable. |
− | * Poor | + | * Poor bomb load options (confined to ground attack role). |
− | * | + | * Very unfavourable rocket placement requiring extreme lead. |
− | * | + | * Weak rudder authority at moderate speeds. |
== History == | == History == | ||
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;Skins | ;Skins | ||
− | * [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/? | + | |
+ | * [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=saab_t18b_2 Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.] | ||
;Videos | ;Videos | ||
− | {{Youtube-gallery|VHJN6ZWOmnY|'''The bane of tanks''' discusses the {{PAGENAME}} at 0:30 - ''War Thunder Official Channel''}} | + | {{Youtube-gallery |
+ | |UQILrYOVXGw|'''Swedish Multi-Tool - T18B-2 (Guide)''' - ''8Bit Dane''|VHJN6ZWOmnY|'''The bane of tanks''' discusses the {{PAGENAME}} at 0:30 - ''War Thunder Official Channel''}} | ||
== See also == | == See also == | ||
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+ | ;Related development | ||
+ | * [[SAAB 18 (Family)]] | ||
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+ | ;Similar aircraft fitted with a 57 mm cannon | ||
+ | * [[Mosquito FB Mk XVIII]] | ||
+ | * [[Ki-102 otsu]] | ||
== External links == | == External links == | ||
''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:'' | ''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:'' | ||
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* ''topic on the official game forum;'' | * ''topic on the official game forum;'' | ||
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* ''other literature.'' | * ''other literature.'' | ||
{{AirManufacturer Saab}} | {{AirManufacturer Saab}} | ||
{{Sweden bombers}} | {{Sweden bombers}} |
Latest revision as of 20:31, 4 July 2024
This page is about the Swedish bomber T18B (57). For other versions, see SAAB 18 (Family). |
Contents
Description
The T18B (57) is a rank III Swedish bomber with a battle rating of 3.7 (AB), 4.3 (RB), and 4.0 (SB). It was introduced in Update 1.95 "Northern Wind".
The T18B is an attacker/bomber designed to take out ground targets and give support. Designed and built by SAAB for use by the Swedish Air Force, it bears similarities to the T18B-1. The B-2 is the version which carries the 57 mm akan m/47 autocannon with a 41-round magazine to take out heavily armoured opponents. It is an attacker-in-disguise in terms of flight performance and firepower, with the downsides that come from housing a large-calibre autocannon.
General info
Flight performance
The flight performance of the T18B is very good. Powered by two Daimler-Benz DB 605B piston engines, this bomber offers twin-engine fighter grade flight performance even with the weight of the 57 mm cannon, achieving a respectable climb rate and a competitive turn radius. It also has an amazing level flight speed. Because the airframe was first designed for both torpedo bomber and dive bomber roles, this aircraft offers amazing low-speed manoeuvrability and respectable high-speed manoeuvrability, complementing the armament in targeting responsiveness.
Characteristics | Max Speed (km/h at 6,000 m) |
Max altitude (metres) |
Turn time (seconds) |
Rate of climb (metres/second) |
Take-off run (metres) | |||
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AB | RB | AB | RB | AB | RB | |||
Stock | 570 | 552 | 10800 | 27.3 | 28.4 | 7.1 | 7.1 | 450 |
Upgraded | 616 | 592 | 24.8 | 26.0 | 14.0 | 10.1 |
Details
Features | ||||
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Combat flaps | Take-off flaps | Landing flaps | Air brakes | Arrestor gear |
✓ | ✓ | ✓ | X | X |
The T18B does not come equipped with the airbrake that was installed in the earlier T18B-1.
Limits | ||||||
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Wings (km/h) | Gear (km/h) | Flaps (km/h) | Max Static G | |||
Combat | Take-off | Landing | + | - | ||
735 | 320 | 467 | 438 | 290 | ~7 | ~3 |
Optimal velocities (km/h) | |||
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Ailerons | Rudder | Elevators | Radiator |
< 370 | < 350 | < 400 | > 420 |
Survivability and armour
- 10 mm steel - Cockpit floor under pilot's seat
- 10 mm steel - Pilot's seatback
- 10 mm steel - Rear gunner protective plate
- 10 mm steel - Cockpit floor under gunner's seat
- 10 mm steel - Aft protective plate
Modifications and economy
Armaments
Offensive armament
The T18B (57) is armed with:
- 1 x 57 mm Akan m/47 cannon, chin-mounted (41 rpg)
- 2 x 20 mm Akan m/41A cannons, chin-mounted (60 rpg = 120 total)
- 1 x 13.2 mm Akan m/39A machine gun, nose-mounted (300 rpg)
These belts are recommended:
- 57 mm autocannon - "Ground Targets" is needed to knock the tanks without wasting ammo but if playstyle is switched to Bomber Interception, "Air Targets" is better suited.
- 20 mm cannons - Use "Air targets" belt for bomber hunting.
- 13.2 mm MG - "Air targets" is a good belt, because it contains a lot of High Explosive Fragmentation-Tracer rounds (HEF-T).
Suspended armament
The T18B (57) can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | ||
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50 kg sb m/42 bombs | 4 | 4 | |||
hprak m/49 rockets | 4 | 4 | |||
psrak m/49B rockets | 4 | 4 | |||
srak m/51 rockets | 4 | 4 | |||
Maximum permissible weight imbalance: 450 kg |
Default weapon presets | |
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Defensive armament
The T18B (57) is defended by:
- 1 x 13.2 mm Akan m/39 machine gun, dorsal turret (300 rpg)
Use the "Universal" belt, as the HEF-T bullet is good at knocking down enemies out of the sky.
Usage in battles
Close air support
With its triple set of armament controlled separately, efficiency is the biggest key factor for CAS pilots who are looking to make a dent in the enemy's forces. Use the separate controls for primary, secondary, and additional armament to use them separately for different purposes. 57 mm for armoured targets, 13.2 mm for small targets that needs precision like machine gun nests or lightly armoured car convoys, 20 mm for large soft targets like anti-air emplacements or artillery positions. If you play CAS in Air RB, you are aware of the fact that enemy fighters at the start of the game will come after you. Therefore, it is highly recommended to sneak into the remote ground targets that are away from enemy airfields or to wait a little until after your team's fighters have established air superiority. To destroy as much as possible without having to return and rearm, trigger discipline is highly recommended.
Bomber interception
Having a 57 mm autocannon opens up interesting possibilities against other bombers, especially heavy bombers with a sturdy airframe. With the altitude advantage you get from the airspawn, it is possible to catch the bombers before they get high above. But being a heavy twin-engine bomber, you will be vulnerable to the bomber's defensive fire. This is where the autocannon comes into play: most turrets at this BR won't be accurate enough to do sustained damage at 1.5 km distance and beyond, but your 57 mm cannon can. It is recommended to use the High-Explosive belts to destroy the target in a single hit, avoid the Armour-piercing belt that causes the shell to go straight on without further damage. If you struggle with the leading of the gun without tracers, the AP-T belt might be better suited for the player.
Manual Engine Control
MEC elements | ||||||
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Mixer | Pitch | Radiator | Supercharger | Turbocharger | ||
Oil | Water | Type | ||||
Not controllable | Controllable Auto control available |
Controllable Auto control available |
Controllable Auto control available |
Separate | Not controllable 1 gear |
Not controllable |
With correct engine management, it can return to base with a single engine.
Pros and cons
Pros:
- Excellent offensive armament
- The 57 mm cannon is effective against ground targets.
- Very fast and agile for its class.
- Can carry up extra rockets and bombs added to the offensive armament.
- Very good in a bomber hunter role.
- Sturdy airframe.
Cons:
- Only one turret, gunner is vulnerable.
- Poor bomb load options (confined to ground attack role).
- Very unfavourable rocket placement requiring extreme lead.
- Weak rudder authority at moderate speeds.
History
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template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <ref></ref>
, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <references />
. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under === In-game description ===
, also if applicable).
Media
- Skins
- Videos
See also
- Related development
- Similar aircraft fitted with a 57 mm cannon
External links
Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:
- topic on the official game forum;
- other literature.
Swedish Aeroplane Company Ltd. (SAAB) | |
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Pre-SAAB: SA / ASJA | |
SA 'Jaktfalken' | J6B |
SAAB 17 | B17A · B17B · S17BS |
SAAB 18 | B18A · B18B · T18B · T18B (57) |
SAAB 21 | J21A-1 · J21A-2 · A21A-3 · J21RA · A21RB |
SAAB 29 'Tunnan' | J29A · A29B · J29D · J29F |
SAAB 32 'Lansen' | J32B · A32A · A32A Röd Adam |
SAAB 35 'Draken' | J35A · J35D |
SAAB 37 'Viggen' | JA37C · JA37D · JA37DI · JA37DI F21 · AJ37 · AJS37 |
SAAB 39 'Gripen' | JAS39A · JAS39C |
SAAB 105 | SK60B · SAAB-105G |
License Production | B3C (Ju 86K) |
Export | SAAB-105OE · J35XS · ▄JAS39C · ◔JAS39EBS HU C |
Sweden bombers | |
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B3 | B3C |
B17 | B17A · B17B · S17BS |
SAAB 18 | B18A · B18B · T18B · T18B (57) |
T 2 | T 2 |
Finland | ▄Ar 196 A-5 · ▄Ju 88 A-4 |