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Revision as of 15:09, 25 August 2021

Rank VI USSR | Premium | Golden Eagles
Su-25K Pack
75/34 M43
it_semovente_m43_75_34.png
GarageImage 75 34 M43.jpg
75/34 M43
Italy flag.png Italy
II Rank
Battle rating:
AB RB SB
3.3 3.3 3.3
Class:
Research:6 900 Specs-Card-Exp.png
Purchase:32 000 Specs-Card-Lion.png
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Description

The Semovente 75/34 M43 is a rank II Italian tank destroyer with a battle rating of 3.3 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced in Update 1.85 "Supersonic".

General info

Survivability and armour

Smoke grenades
Creation of a smoke screen in front of the vehicle
Armourfront / side / back
Hull50 / 40 / 25
Turret100 / 70 / 45
Crew3 people
Visibility61 %

Armour type:

  • Rolled homogeneous armour (hull, casemate)
  • Cast homogeneous armour (gun mantlet)
Armour Front (Slope angle) Sides Rear Roof
Hull 25 mm (78°) Upper glacis
50 mm (40°) Lower glacis - top
30 mm (50°) Lower glacis - bottom 		40 mm
40 + 25 + 4 mm Casemate area
40 + 4 mm Side skirts area 		25 mm Upper part
25 mm (15°) Lower part 		25 mm (12°) Front glacis
10-15 mm (12°) Rear - Engine hood
5-15 mm (5°) Rear - Radiator vents
Casemate 75 mm (5°) + 25 mm (25°) Casemate front plate
90 mm (5°) + 25 mm (25°) Driver port
50 + 50 mm (spherical) + 25 mm (25°) Gun mantlet 		45 mm (7-9°) + 25 mm 45 mm 15 mm (0-4°) Centre
15 mm (18°) Sides

Notes:

  • Suspension wheels are 15 mm thick while tracks are 20 mm thick and bogies 10 mm thick.
  • The belly is 15 mm thick.
  • Mudguards are 4 mm thick.

The 75/34 M43 has the same good protection as the 105/25 M43: thick vertical front armour plate, reinforced sides and a crew sitting apart in a widened hull. The 75/34 M43 also gets an additional 25 mm armour plate on the front and the sides of the casemate. However, the poor roof armour and a crew of only 3 are still weak points. Your front plate is also wide and easy to target.

Mobility

Speedforward / back
AB42 / 4 km/h
RB and SB39 / 4 km/h
Number of gears5 forward
1 back
Weight15.5 t
Engine power
AB353 hp
RB and SB185 hp
Power-to-weight ratio
AB22.8 hp/t
RB and SB11.9 hp/t
Game Mode Max Speed (km/h) Weight (tons) Engine power (horsepower) Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
Forward Reverse Stock Upgraded Stock Upgraded
Arcade 42 4 15.5 263 353 16.97 22.77
Realistic 39 4 164 185 10.58 11.94

Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference
AB870 → 1 129 Sl icon.png
RB1 028 → 1 334 Sl icon.png
SB1 246 → 1 617 Sl icon.png
Total cost of modifications13 960 Rp icon.png
20 200 Sl icon.png
Talisman cost860 Ge icon.png
Crew training9 200 Sl icon.png
Experts32 000 Sl icon.png
Aces270 Ge icon.png
Research Aces250 000 Rp icon.png
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
60 / 90 / 120 % Sl icon.png
130 / 130 / 130 % Rp icon.png
Modifications
Mobility Protection Firepower
Mods new tank traks.png
Tracks
Research:
690 Rp icon.png
Cost:
1 000 Sl icon.png
80 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank suspension.png
Suspension
Research:
780 Rp icon.png
Cost:
1 100 Sl icon.png
90 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank break.png
Brake System
Research:
780 Rp icon.png
Cost:
1 100 Sl icon.png
90 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank filter.png
Filters
Research:
870 Rp icon.png
Cost:
1 300 Sl icon.png
100 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank transmission.png
Transmission
Research:
2 300 Rp icon.png
Cost:
3 300 Sl icon.png
260 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank engine.png
Engine
Research:
2 300 Rp icon.png
Cost:
3 300 Sl icon.png
260 Ge icon.png
Mods tank tool kit.png
Improved Parts
Research:
690 Rp icon.png
Cost:
1 000 Sl icon.png
80 Ge icon.png
Mods extinguisher.png
Improved FPE
Research:
780 Rp icon.png
Cost:
1 100 Sl icon.png
90 Ge icon.png
Mods tank reinforcement it.png
Crew Replenishment
Research:
870 Rp icon.png
Cost:
1 300 Sl icon.png
100 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank horizontal aiming.png
Horizontal Drive
Research:
690 Rp icon.png
Cost:
1 000 Sl icon.png
80 Ge icon.png
Mods tank ammo.png
75mm_M42_EPS_HEAT_ammo_pack
Research:
690 Rp icon.png
Cost:
1 000 Sl icon.png
80 Ge icon.png
Mods tank cannon.png
Adjustment of Fire
Research:
780 Rp icon.png
Cost:
1 100 Sl icon.png
90 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank vertical aiming.png
Elevation Mechanism
Research:
870 Rp icon.png
Cost:
1 300 Sl icon.png
100 Ge icon.png
Mods smoke screen.png
Smoke grenade
Research:
870 Rp icon.png
Cost:
1 300 Sl icon.png
100 Ge icon.png

Armaments

Main armament

75 mm Ansaldo 75 L/34 cannon
Ammunition45 rounds
Reloadbasic crew → aces
7.8 → 6.0 s
Vertical guidance-10° / 16°
Horizontal guidance-18° / 18°
Main article: Ansaldo 75 L/34 (75 mm)
75 mm Ansaldo 75 L/34 Turret rotation speed (°/s) Reloading rate (seconds)
Mode Capacity Vertical Horizontal Stabilizer Stock Upgraded Full Expert Aced Stock Full Expert Aced
Arcade 45 -10°/+16° ±18° N/A 12.3 17.1 20.7 22.9 24.4 7.80 6.90 6.36 6.00
Realistic 8.3 9.8 11.9 13.2 14.0

Ammunition

Penetration statistics
Ammunition Type of
warhead 		Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
10 m 100 m 500 m 1,000 m 1,500 m 2,000 m
Granata Perforante 75/32 APCBC 79 78 71 64 58 52
EPS M42 HEAT 100 100 100 100 100 100
Granata 75/32 HE 9 9 9 9 9 9
Shell details
Ammunition Type of
warhead 		Velocity
(m/s) 		Projectile
Mass (kg) 		Fuse delay
(m) 		Fuse sensitivity
(mm) 		Explosive Mass
(TNT equivalent) (g) 		Ricochet
0% 50% 100%
Granata Perforante 75/32 APCBC 637 6.35 1.2 14 270 48° 63° 71°
EPS M42 HEAT 552 5.3 0.05 0.1 656.64 62° 69° 73°
Granata 75/32 HE 552 6.35 0 0.1 600 79° 80° 81°

Ammo racks

Ammo racks of the 75/34 M43
Full
ammo 		1st
rack empty 		2nd
rack empty 		3rd
rack empty 		Visual
discrepancy
45 31 (+14) 16 (+29) 1 (+44) No

Notes:

  • Shells are modeled individually and disappear after having been shot or loaded.

Usage in battles

Combat tactics

The 75/34 M43 is best when used as a tank destroyer thanks to its good frontal armour and the good penetration of its rounds, provided you stay at a distance guaranteeing your survivability (800-1,000 m). With a maximum penetration of 64 mm at 1,000 m for the APCBC round and 100 mm for the HEAT shell, the vehicle will have no problem penetrating the armour of most enemy vehicles at the BR.

If you play too close to the frontline, most tanks will be capable of disabling you. Your weak sides will be exposed if you are taken in a pincer move and being immobilized with the enemy close to your position pretty much seals your vehicle's fate.

Notable enemies
  • Tank destroyers with long guns that can penetrate from long range like the M10, the Marder III, the Sd.Kfz.234/4, the StuG III F, the SU-57B, the ASU-57, the YaG-10 (29-K), the Gun Carrier (3-in), the Archer, the Na-To, the 90/53 M41M or the Pvkv II.
  • Tanks with powerful HEAT shells like the M4A3 (105), the Pz.III N, the StuH 42 G, the 105/25 M43 or the Sav m/43 (1946),
  • Heavily armoured tanks that can shrug your shells off like the MK-II "Matilda" (USSR), the KV-1 (L-11), the Churchill I or the Matilda III,
  • Frontline tanks with sloped armour like the M4, the M4A1, the T-34, the Sherman II, the M4A4 or the ARL-44 (ACL-1),
  • Fast and agile light tanks such as the M24, that can easily flank the Semovente undetected are dangerous threats. Their speed and small size make them difficult to target for the Semovente's gun and they can disable you easily at close range.
How to defeat a 75/34 M43
  • Avoid any frontal encounter. Flank it and aim for the sides of the casemate.
  • Wait for it to have shot and be reloading (it gives you at least 6 seconds to act).
  • If you're forced to engage the Semovente frontally, be as close as possible to increase your chances to penetrate.
  • If you can't disable it in one shot, immobilizing the 75/34 M43 buys you time to finish it off. Either shoot the transmission, the driver or the engine to do so. Stay out or get out of its line of fire once it is immobilized.
  • When flying an aircraft, target the crew compartment to knock the crew out or the engine bay to immobilize it.

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Effective frontal armour and all-around protection
  • Small frontal profile makes the tank easy to conceal and difficult to hit
  • Decent mobility and good hull traverse
  • Has access to HEAT rounds

Cons:

  • Armour becomes much less effective when uptiered against stronger vehicles
  • As a casemate tank destroyer, the Semovente is extremely vulnerable to flanks
  • A cramped interior and only 3 crew lessens survivability
  • Inadequate gun for its tier

History

Main article: History of the 105/25 M43
Development

After the Italian Armistice in 1943, the Germans took control of Northern Italy and restarted the production of the Semovente da 105/25. Lacking 105 mm guns, 53 units were produced with the 75/34 Mod. SF gun for the Wehrmacht in 1943-44.

Combat usage

These saw service with German forces in southern Europe in 1944.

Media

Skins
Videos
75/34 M43 Review, Decent chassis, crap gun! - Joseph 2000

See also

Vehicles equipped with the same chassis
Vehicles equipped with the same gun
Other vehicles of similar configuration and role

External links


Italy tank destroyers
  Italy
M41  75/18 M41 · 75/32 M41 · 90/53 M41M
M42  75/34 M42
M43  105/25 M43 · M43 "G.C.Leoncello" · 75/34 M43 · 75/46 M43
Wheeled  Lancia 3Ro (100/17) · AS 42/47 · Breda 90/53 · Breda 501
Other  L3/33 CC · 47/32 L40
Germany  ▄StuG III G
USA  M36B1 · ▄M109G · M113A1 (TOW)
  Hungary
Zrínyi  Zrinyi I · Zrinyi II
USSR  ◔2S1

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