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== Description ==
 
== Description ==
 
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' was a further development of the Pr.1204. After the first Pr.1204 entered service, the boat's weak armaments became apparent, prompting an upgrade. Eventually, in 1970, later-built boats were equipped with a casemate-mounted [[BP "Plamya" (30 mm)|"Plamya"]] automatic grenade launcher, a [[BM-14-17|140mm BM-14-17]] multiple rocket launcher system, and the replacement of the [[KPV (14.5 mm)|14.5mm KPV]] heavy machine gun with the [[2M-3 (25 mm)|25mm 2M-3]] autocannon. Even with these improvements, the Soviet Navy still felt the boat was underperforming, and nearly all were transferred to the Soviet Border Troops. Today, a small number of these boats remain in service with the Russian Navy and the Ukrainian State Border Guard.
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After the first [[Pr.1204]] entered service, the boat's weak armaments became apparent, prompting an upgrade. Eventually, in 1970, later-built boats were equipped with a casemate-mounted [[BP "Plamya" (30 mm)|"Plamya"]] automatic grenade launcher, a [[BM-14-17|140 mm BM-14-17]] multiple rocket launcher system, and the replacement of the [[KPV (14.5 mm)|14.5 mm KPV]] heavy machine gun with the [[2M-3 (25 mm)|25 mm 2M-3]] autocannon. Even with these improvements, the Soviet Navy still felt the boat was underperforming, and nearly all were transferred to the Soviet Border Troops. Today, a small number of these boats remain in service with the Russian Navy and the Ukrainian State Border Guard.
  
In the game, this boat was introduced during [[Update 1.79 "Project X"]] when the Soviet fleet was implemented into the game. The boat performs similarly to its predecessor, the Pr.191 armored boat, but with improved speed, making it easier to navigate the map. Its main cannon, the [[D-56TS (76 mm)|76mm D-56TS]], has both HE and APHE shells, capable of damaging light and heavily armoured targets. The 25mm 2M-3 autocannon can destroy light and medium armoured targets, as well as serve in an anti-aircraft role. It also has the 140mm BM-14-17 MRLS, which is effective at destroying enemy destroyers. Additionally, it carries the same [[YAM-43 mine|YAM-43]] small coastal mine to block enemy paths to strategic points. One unique armament is the 30mm "Plamya" grenade launcher, though it is not very effective beyond 1 km due to its limited range. Even if it hits the target, it does minimal damage due to its small explosive mass.
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Introduced during [[Update 1.79 "Project X"]] when the Soviet fleet was implemented into the game, the Pr.1204 late performs similarly to its predecessor, the Pr.191 armoured boat, but with improved speed, making it easier to navigate the map. Its main cannon, the [[D-56TS (76 mm)|76 mm D-56TS]], has both HE and APHE shells, capable of damaging light and heavily armoured targets. The 25mm 2M-3 autocannon can destroy light and medium armoured targets, as well as serve in an anti-aircraft role. It also has the 140 mm BM-14-17 MRLS, which is effective at destroying enemy destroyers. Additionally, it carries the same [[YAM-43 mine|YAM-43]] small coastal mine to block enemy paths to strategic points. One unique armament is the 30 mm "Plamya" grenade launcher, though it is not very effective beyond 1 km due to its limited range. Even if it hits the target, it does minimal damage due to its small explosive mass.
  
 
== General info ==
 
== General info ==

Latest revision as of 09:05, 23 October 2024

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This page is about the Soviet armoured gun boat Pr.1204 late. For the premium version, see Pr.1204.
Pr.1204 late
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Description

After the first Pr.1204 entered service, the boat's weak armaments became apparent, prompting an upgrade. Eventually, in 1970, later-built boats were equipped with a casemate-mounted "Plamya" automatic grenade launcher, a 140 mm BM-14-17 multiple rocket launcher system, and the replacement of the 14.5 mm KPV heavy machine gun with the 25 mm 2M-3 autocannon. Even with these improvements, the Soviet Navy still felt the boat was underperforming, and nearly all were transferred to the Soviet Border Troops. Today, a small number of these boats remain in service with the Russian Navy and the Ukrainian State Border Guard.

Introduced during Update 1.79 "Project X" when the Soviet fleet was implemented into the game, the Pr.1204 late performs similarly to its predecessor, the Pr.191 armoured boat, but with improved speed, making it easier to navigate the map. Its main cannon, the 76 mm D-56TS, has both HE and APHE shells, capable of damaging light and heavily armoured targets. The 25mm 2M-3 autocannon can destroy light and medium armoured targets, as well as serve in an anti-aircraft role. It also has the 140 mm BM-14-17 MRLS, which is effective at destroying enemy destroyers. Additionally, it carries the same YAM-43 small coastal mine to block enemy paths to strategic points. One unique armament is the 30 mm "Plamya" grenade launcher, though it is not very effective beyond 1 km due to its limited range. Even if it hits the target, it does minimal damage due to its small explosive mass.

General info

Survivability and armour

Armourfront / side / back
Citadel4 / 8 / 4 mm
Main fire tower15 / 15 / 15 mm
Hull8 mm (steel)
Superstructure4 mm (steel)
Number of section5
Displacement78 t
Crew14 people

The turret is the most heavily armoured section of the ship, with 15 mm of RHA, meaning that it cannot be knocked out by HE shells under 100 mm in calibre. In addition, the bridge and Automatic Grenade Launchers are protected by a thin layer of hardened armour, making them more resistant against low-calibre HE. However, this armour is insufficient to stop large-calibre autocannon fire or armour-piercing machine gun rounds.

In addition, there is an armoured compartment protecting the engine. This gives some resistance against engine knockouts, which will help the stock grind (before FPE).

Mobility

Speedforward / back
AB65 / 29 km/h
RB48 / 22 km/h

The ship has a moderate top speed both forward and reverse, meaning that you will never be the first to capture points. Your stopping time is also somewhat poor, and so to turn round it would be better to do a U-turn in most cases. However, your rudder speed is good, and gets much better with the modification installed, so avoiding torpedoes is not an issue for the Pr. 1204.

Mobility Characteristics
Game Mode Upgrade Status Maximum Speed (km/h) Turn Time (s) Turn Radius (m)
Forward Reverse
AB Stock ___ ___
Upgraded 65 29
RB/SB Stock ___ ___
Upgraded 48 22

Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference
AB1 278 → 1 606 Sl icon.png
RB1 695 → 2 130 Sl icon.png
Total cost of modifications35 500 Rp icon.png
77 100 Sl icon.png
Talisman cost1 200 Ge icon.png
Crew training33 000 Sl icon.png
Experts115 000 Sl icon.png
Aces590 Ge icon.png
Research Aces360 000 Rp icon.png
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
90 / 140 / 100 % Sl icon.png
148 / 148 / 148 % Rp icon.png
Modifications
Seakeeping Unsinkability Firepower
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Dry-Docking
Research:
1 800 Rp icon.png
Cost:
3 900 Sl icon.png
155 Ge icon.png
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Rudder Replacement
Research:
1 300 Rp icon.png
Cost:
2 800 Sl icon.png
115 Ge icon.png
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Propeller Replacement
Research:
2 200 Rp icon.png
Cost:
4 800 Sl icon.png
190 Ge icon.png
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Engine Maintenance
Research:
3 900 Rp icon.png
Cost:
8 500 Sl icon.png
340 Ge icon.png
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Damage Control Division
Research:
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Cost:
3 900 Sl icon.png
155 Ge icon.png
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Fire Division
Research:
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Cost:
2 800 Sl icon.png
115 Ge icon.png
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Smokescreen
Research:
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Cost:
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115 Ge icon.png
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New Pumps
Research:
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Cost:
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340 Ge icon.png
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Anti-Air Armament Targeting
Research:
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Cost:
3 900 Sl icon.png
155 Ge icon.png
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25mm_2m3_he_navy_ammo_pack
Research:
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Cost:
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Auxiliary Armament Targeting
Research:
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Cost:
2 800 Sl icon.png
115 Ge icon.png
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25mm_2m3_ap_navy_ammo_pack
Research:
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Cost:
2 800 Sl icon.png
115 Ge icon.png
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76mm_ussr_d56_navy_AP_ammo_pack
Research:
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Cost:
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115 Ge icon.png
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Primary Armament Targeting
Research:
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Cost:
4 800 Sl icon.png
190 Ge icon.png
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Rocket Launcher
Research:
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Cost:
4 800 Sl icon.png
190 Ge icon.png
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Improved Rangefinder
Research:
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Cost:
4 800 Sl icon.png
190 Ge icon.png
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Mines
Research:
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Cost:
8 500 Sl icon.png
340 Ge icon.png

Armament

Primary armament

Turret76 mm/52 D-56TS cannon
Ammunition150 rounds
Vertical guidance-4° / 30°
Main article: D-56TS (76 mm)

The primary armament is roughly the same as the Pr. 1124, and offers no new shell types. It is conveniently mounted on the bow of the boat, with a blind spot directly behind the boat. Being moderately armoured, it is rarely knocked out. HE shells are sufficient against most boats, but it is sensible to carry some APHE as well, especially to face some Russian armoured boats, where your 11 mm of penetration with HE rounds won't be enough.

Use HE whenever possible, especially at longer ranges, because the APHE needs a solid hit to damage anything.

Penetration statistics
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
100 m 1,000 m 2,000 m 3,000 m 4,000 m 5,000 m
OF-350M HE 10 10 10 10 10 10
BR-354 APHE 96 79 63 51 41 34
Shell details
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Velocity
(m/s)
Projectile
mass (kg)
Fuse delay
(s)
Fuse sensitivity
(mm)
Explosive mass
(TNT equivalent) (g)
Ricochet
0% 50% 100%
OF-350M HE 680 6.2 0 0.1 621 79° 80° 81°
BR-354 APHE 662 6.3 0.01 4 49.28 47° 60° 65°

Secondary armament

Turret2 x 25 mm 2M-3 mounting
Ammunition3900 rounds
Belt capacity65 rounds
Fire rate300 shots/min
Main article: 2M-3 (25 mm)

The dual 25 mm turret tears aircraft apart in a few hits, and it can help against very fast PT boats. A small group of these boats together with a destroyer have a decent combined AA.

  • Universal: AP-T · FI-T
  • 25 mm HE magazines: FI-T · FI-T · FI-T · AP-T
  • 25 mm AP magazines: AP-T · AP-T · AP-T · FI-T

Penetration statistics
Ammunition Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
10 m 100 m 500 m 1,000 m 1,500 m 2,000 m
FI-T 3 3 3 3 3 3
AP-T 55 52 42 32 25 19
Shell details
Ammunition Velocity
(m/s)
Projectile
mass (kg)
Fuse delay
(m)
Fuse sensitivity
(mm)
Explosive mass
(TNT equivalent) (g)
Ricochet
0% 50% 100%
FI-T 900 0.28 0 0.1 30.8 47° 56° 65°
AP-T 900 0.28 - - - 47° 60° 65°

Anti-aircraft armament

4 х Turret30 mm automatic grenade launcher BP "Plamya"
Ammunition400 rounds
Main article: BP "Plamya" (30 mm)

The "anti-air" armament of 4 x 30 mm grenade launchers is largely ineffective at ranges of over 1 km. It is useful, however, in close quarters fighting (though not recommended), or for fending off patrol boats that get too close, something that is very challenging with only the main gun. This is a major improvement over the Pr. 1124, which had to use its 12.7 mm machine guns for this, leaving it vulnerable to the air.

Note that the grenade launchers are classified as AA, but the true AA is your 25 mm gun, which you can use against pretty much anything.

Additional armament

Setup 117 x 140 mm BM-14-17 rocket launcher
Setup 210 x YAM-43 small moored contact coastal mine
Setup 317 x 140 mm BM-14-17 rocket launcher
2 x YAM-43 small moored contact coastal mine
Main articles: BM-14-17, YAM-43 mine

Like prior Soviet river boats, there is an option to mount a Katyusha rocket launcher on the back. This can be effective against large or static targets, making up for the lack of torpedoes.

Note: this artillery rocket launcher has a larger calibre than others in the tech tree. This allows you to fire up to 17 rockets 3 km away, very effective against destroyers.

You also have the option to carry a few mines. These mines are very small, and were designed to be used in rivers. Using them against destroyers has very little effect, even several of them. These should be used against other PT boats, but are not really worth the trouble.

Usage in battles

The Pr. 1204 late is very similar in playstyle to the Pr.1124 (1940), which you will have played before this boat. Remaining at long range is still important due to your thin armour, however more ships have guns capable of engaging at range at the higher BR. You have better defence against fast and evasive enemies and air power thanks to your 25 mm AA gun and the 30 mm grenade launchers, but these can be easily overwhelmed by large numbers of enemies. You are also still relatively flammable, and going into close-quarters battle is not recommended.

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Has a 30 mm grenade launcher weapon for defence in close quarter battles
  • Effective AA turret
  • Powerful main gun
  • Rocket launcher, highly effective on a hit
  • Moderate armour protects well against small arms fire
  • Good turn rate to avoid torpedoes

Cons:

  • 30 mm grenade launcher has short range
  • Only one AA turret, easily overwhelmed
  • Only one main gun, unlike Pr. 1124
  • Rocket launcher is very difficult to hit with (similar to MO-4)
  • Armour is insufficient against 20 mm autocannons present on many boats at this BR
  • Low top speed

History

The Pr.1204 (or "Shmel") class of river boats were developed in the mid 1960s as a successor to the USSR's ageing fleet of WWII era river boats. 118 Shmel class river boats were built between 1967 and 1974. The boats were designed specifically to operate in shallow waters, such as rivers or littoral waters. The Shmel class was designed to support operations in rivers or shallow water conditions such as denying waterway passages, protecting harbours supporting troop movements, as well as providing fire support for ship to shore scenarios. As of 2017, several are still in service with the Russian Navy, with at least 4 assigned to the Caspian fleet.[1]

Media

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See also

Links to articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:

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External links

References


USSR boats
Motor torpedo boats  D-3 · G-5 · G-5 (ShVAK) · Pr.123-bis · Pr.123K (A-11) · Pr.123K · Pr.183
Motor gun boats  TKA-412 · MO-4 · OD-200 · Pr.183 BM-21 · Ya-5M
Motor torpedo gun boats  Pr. 206 · Pr.206-M · MPK Pr.12412 · MPK Pr.12412P · MPK Pr.11451
Gunboats  Groza
Armoured gun boats  BMO · MBK-161 early · MBK-161 late · MBK pr.186 · MBK pr.186 (MK 85) · Pr.1124 early · Pr.1124 late · Pr.1124 MLRS
  Pr.191 · Pr.191M · Pr.1204 · Pr.1204 late