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== Description ==
 
== Description ==
 
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The '''USS Mitscher (DL-2/DDG-35)''' one of the experimental destroyers of the Mitscher class built for the United States Navy immediately after World War II. Originally designated DD-927, she was laid down on 3 October 1949 by the Bath Iron Works Corporation in Bath, Maine, then reclassified as a lead ship for a new destroyer class on 2 February 1951. The ship was named after Admiral Marc "Pete" Mitscher and was launched on January 26, 1952, by Mrs Marc A. Mitscher, Admiral Mitscher's widow, and commissioned on May 15, 1953. Between 18 March 1966 and 29 June 1968, she was modified to a guided missile destroyer and designated DDG-35, serving until 1978. On 1 June 1978, the USS Mitscher was decommissioned and struck from the Naval Vessel Register, and it was scrapped in July 1980.
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The '''USS Mitscher (DL-2/DDG-35)''' one of the experimental destroyers of the [[Mitscher (Family)|Mitscher class]] built for the United States Navy immediately after World War II. Originally designated DD-927, she was laid down on 3 October 1949 by the Bath Iron Works Corporation in Bath, Maine, then reclassified as a lead ship for a new destroyer class on 2 February 1951. The ship was named after Admiral Marc "Pete" Mitscher and was launched on January 26, 1952, by Mrs Marc A. Mitscher, Admiral Mitscher's widow, and commissioned on May 15, 1953. Between 18 March 1966 and 29 June 1968, she was modified to a guided missile destroyer and designated DDG-35, serving until 1978. On 1 June 1978, the USS Mitscher was decommissioned and struck from the Naval Vessel Register, and it was scrapped in July 1980.
  
 
Introduced in [[Update "Ground Breaking"]], the USS Mitscher is a unique destroyer with fewer gun platforms than prior destroyers but increased lethality. The two 127 mm/54 Mark 18 guns are positioned in a single turret in the bow and stern. The main turrets may be fully traversed, providing excellent coverage. While the ship has only two main guns, which severely limits its burst damage and accuracy when compared to other 127 mm guns, these weaknesses are offset by an extremely fast rate of fire of 40 shells per minute, allowing the USS Mitscher to deal a similar continuous damage output as other destroyers in her rank. Furthermore, the shells fired by the USS Mitscher are heavier and more potent in terms of penetration and explosive content than 127 mm shells from World War II. However, with only two gun mounts, its efficacy is severely hindered if one of these turrets is disabled.
 
Introduced in [[Update "Ground Breaking"]], the USS Mitscher is a unique destroyer with fewer gun platforms than prior destroyers but increased lethality. The two 127 mm/54 Mark 18 guns are positioned in a single turret in the bow and stern. The main turrets may be fully traversed, providing excellent coverage. While the ship has only two main guns, which severely limits its burst damage and accuracy when compared to other 127 mm guns, these weaknesses are offset by an extremely fast rate of fire of 40 shells per minute, allowing the USS Mitscher to deal a similar continuous damage output as other destroyers in her rank. Furthermore, the shells fired by the USS Mitscher are heavier and more potent in terms of penetration and explosive content than 127 mm shells from World War II. However, with only two gun mounts, its efficacy is severely hindered if one of these turrets is disabled.
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The Mitscher also has four rapid firing 3-inch guns, placed in two turrets, that provide valuable supplementary firepower. However, the small caliber causes them to lose accuracy over long ranges, which, coupled with their tendency to slowly overheat, means that they are best used in close-range melees to help quickly eliminate threats. It should also be noted that the HE-VT shell has less explosive filler than the regular HE shell, so captains should evaluate which one to use as their primary shell, depending on whether they want to focus more on surface or aerial threats  
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The Mitscher also has four rapid firing 3-inch guns, placed in two turrets, that provide valuable supplementary firepower. However, the small calibre causes them to lose accuracy over long ranges, which, coupled with their tendency to slowly overheat, means that they are best used in close-range melees to help quickly eliminate threats. The HE-VT shell has less explosive filler than the regular HE shell, so captains should evaluate which one to use as their primary shell, depending on whether they want to focus more on surface or aerial threats  
  
 
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With only four 20mm Oerlikons, the Mitscher's dedicated anti-aircraft armament is quite average for its BR. Although useful as a last line of defense, in most cases these AA guns will only destroy enemy planes ''after'' they have dropped their weapons. It's much more advisable to keep an eye on the radar and eliminate aerial threats with the main guns from long range instead.
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With only four 20 mm Oerlikons, the Mitscher's dedicated anti-aircraft armament is quite average for its BR. Although useful as a last line of defense, in most cases these AA guns will only destroy enemy planes after they have dropped their weapons. It's much more advisable to keep an eye on the radar and eliminate aerial threats with the main guns from long range instead.
  
 
=== Additional armament ===
 
=== Additional armament ===
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Despite her post-war main guns, the Mitscher still has the lowest damage output among other 4.7 US destroyers, especially at long ranges, in which case the [[USS Gearing]] and [[USS Sumner]] would be better choices. Nevertheless, she is an excellent support vessel and overall a fun ship to play with. Stay behind cover or teammates and help eliminate targets that they may have trouble dealing with. Her fast rangefinder allows the Mitscher to deal with agile vessels like torpedo boats with more ease, and her radar and HE-VT shells will keep the skies clear. Even if forced into combat with other bluewater ships, the Mitscher can still hold her own with her large crew count and very high penetrating SAP shells.
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Despite her post-war main guns, the Mitscher still has the lowest damage output among other US destroyers at this BR, especially at long ranges, in which case the [[USS Gearing]] and [[USS Sumner]] would be better choices. Nevertheless, she is an excellent support vessel and overall a fun ship to play with. Stay behind cover or teammates and help eliminate targets that they may have trouble dealing with. Her fast rangefinder allows the Mitscher to deal with agile vessels like torpedo boats with more ease, and her radar and HE-VT shells will keep the skies clear. Even if forced into combat with other bluewater ships, the Mitscher can still hold her own with her large crew count and very high-penetrating SAP shells.
  
 
=== Pros and cons ===
 
=== Pros and cons ===

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Description

The USS Mitscher (DL-2/DDG-35) one of the experimental destroyers of the Mitscher class built for the United States Navy immediately after World War II. Originally designated DD-927, she was laid down on 3 October 1949 by the Bath Iron Works Corporation in Bath, Maine, then reclassified as a lead ship for a new destroyer class on 2 February 1951. The ship was named after Admiral Marc "Pete" Mitscher and was launched on January 26, 1952, by Mrs Marc A. Mitscher, Admiral Mitscher's widow, and commissioned on May 15, 1953. Between 18 March 1966 and 29 June 1968, she was modified to a guided missile destroyer and designated DDG-35, serving until 1978. On 1 June 1978, the USS Mitscher was decommissioned and struck from the Naval Vessel Register, and it was scrapped in July 1980.

Introduced in Update "Ground Breaking", the USS Mitscher is a unique destroyer with fewer gun platforms than prior destroyers but increased lethality. The two 127 mm/54 Mark 18 guns are positioned in a single turret in the bow and stern. The main turrets may be fully traversed, providing excellent coverage. While the ship has only two main guns, which severely limits its burst damage and accuracy when compared to other 127 mm guns, these weaknesses are offset by an extremely fast rate of fire of 40 shells per minute, allowing the USS Mitscher to deal a similar continuous damage output as other destroyers in her rank. Furthermore, the shells fired by the USS Mitscher are heavier and more potent in terms of penetration and explosive content than 127 mm shells from World War II. However, with only two gun mounts, its efficacy is severely hindered if one of these turrets is disabled.

General info

Survivability and armour

Armourfront / side / back
Main fire tower3 / 3 / 3 mm
Hull16 mm (steel)
Superstructure4 mm (steel)
Number of section7
Displacement4 855 t
Crew350 people

Built during the early Cold War to serve as a "Destroyer leader" to be armed with various armaments for different targets, the Mitscher is unusually large. At a whopping 150 m in length and over 4,800 tons of displacement, she even dwarfs the Japanese experimental cruiser Yubari and has a size closer to that of light cruisers.

The Mitscher is barely armoured. The ship only has thin armour to protect the two cannon turrets and a gun shield for Oerlikon autocannons, the ship will attract incoming fire from all gun calibres and take full damage. Her internal modules are unprotected and can be easily damaged, especially her rocket ammo racks that can be easily detonated due to lack of protection.

Mobility

Speedforward / back
AB83 / 35 km/h
RB68 / 29 km/h

Being a destroyer, the Mitscher is reasonably fast and manoeuvrable, though her large displacement for her class and long length limit her acceleration and agility.

Mobility Characteristics
Game Mode Upgrade Status Maximum Speed (km/h) Turn Time (s) Turn Radius (m)
Forward Reverse
AB Stock 61 26 ~133.32 ~253.44
Upgraded 83 35 ___ ___
RB/SB Stock ___ ___ ___ ___
Upgraded 68 29 ___ ___

Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference
AB1 891 → 2 452 Sl icon.png
RB2 896 → 3 756 Sl icon.png
Total cost of modifications13 860 Rp icon.png
20 140 Sl icon.png
Talisman cost860 Ge icon.png
Crew training9 200 Sl icon.png
Experts32 000 Sl icon.png
Aces320 Ge icon.png
Research Aces250 000 Rp icon.png
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
160 / 400 / 100 % Sl icon.png
130 / 130 / 130 % Rp icon.png
Modifications
Seakeeping Unsinkability Firepower
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Dry-Docking
Research:
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Rudder Replacement
Research:
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Cost:
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Propeller Replacement
Research:
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Cost:
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110 Ge icon.png
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Engine Maintenance
Research:
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Cost:
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Damage Control Division
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Fire Division
Research:
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Cost:
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Smokescreen
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Shrapnel Protection
Research:
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Cost:
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Ventilation
Research:
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New Pumps
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Cost:
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Ammo Wetting
Research:
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Cost:
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5-inch Common SP Mk.42
Research:
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Anti-Air Armament Targeting
Research:
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5-inch HC-VT Mk.41
Research:
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Cost:
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76 mm HE-RF
Research:
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Cost:
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Auxiliary Armament Targeting
Research:
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Cost:
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Rocket Launcher
Research:
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Cost:
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Improved Rangefinder
Research:
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Primary Armament Targeting
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Armament

Primary armament

2 х Turret127 mm/54 Mark 18 cannon
Ammunition350 rounds
Vertical guidance-15° / 85°

The main armament for the Mitscher is two 127 mm/54 Mark 18 autocannons mounted in a single turret at the bow and stern. The main turrets can be fully traversed over 360 degrees and consequently have very good coverage. While there are only two main guns for the ship, which severely limits its burst damage, and has notably worse accuracy compared with other 127 mm guns, these weaknesses are compensated by an extremely fast rate of fire of 40 shells per minute, and thus allows the Mitscher to deal a similar continuous damage output as other destroyers at her BR range. Moreover, the shells fired by the Mitscher are heavier and more powerful than WW2-era 127 mm shells in terms of both penetration and explosive filler.

The Mitscher has three type of shells; an HE shell with similar damage output to other American destroyers, an SAP shell with very good penetration of 156 mm at 5,000 m that is capable of damaging enemy cruisers, and an HE-VT shell that is very useful for engaging aircraft thanks to the gun's wide coverage and fast reload, especially when used with the anti-air radar that the Mitscher is equipped with.

Penetration statistics
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
1,000 m 2,500 m 5,000 m 7,500 m 10,000 m 15,000 m
HC Mk.41 HE 36 36 36 36 36 36
SP Common Mk.42 SP Common 204 177 140 112 92 70
Mark 41 HC-VT HE-VT 36 36 36 36 36 36
Shell details
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Velocity
(m/s)
Projectile
mass (kg)
Fuse delay
(s)
Fuse sensitivity
(mm)
Explosive mass
(TNT equivalent) (g)
Ricochet
0% 50% 100%
HC Mk.41 HE 810 31.75 0 0.1 3,440 79° 80° 81°
SP Common Mk.42 SP Common 810 31.75 0.01 6 970 48° 63° 71°
Proximity-fused shell details
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Projectile
mass (kg)
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Fuse sensitivity
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Arming
distance (m)
Trigger
radius (m)
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(TNT equivalent) (g)
Ricochet
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Mark 41 HC-VT HE-VT 810 31.75 0 0.1 457 23 3,440 79° 80° 81°

Secondary armament

2 х Turret2 x 3-inch/50 Mk.34 gun
Ammunition3000 rounds
Belt capacity150 rounds
Fire rate50 shots/min
Main article: 3-inch Mk.34 (76 mm)

The Mitscher also has four rapid firing 3-inch guns, placed in two turrets, that provide valuable supplementary firepower. However, the small calibre causes them to lose accuracy over long ranges, which, coupled with their tendency to slowly overheat, means that they are best used in close-range melees to help quickly eliminate threats. The HE-VT shell has less explosive filler than the regular HE shell, so captains should evaluate which one to use as their primary shell, depending on whether they want to focus more on surface or aerial threats

Penetration statistics
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
100 m 1,000 m 2,000 m 3,000 m 4,000 m 5,000 m
HC Mk.27 HE 8 8 8 8 8 8
Shell details
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Velocity
(m/s)
Projectile
mass (kg)
Fuse delay
(s)
Fuse sensitivity
(mm)
Explosive mass
(TNT equivalent) (g)
Ricochet
0% 50% 100%
HC Mk.27 HE 823 5.9 0 0.1 500 79° 80° 81°
Proximity-fused shell details
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Velocity
(m/s)
Projectile
mass (kg)
Fuse delay
(m)
Fuse sensitivity
(mm)
Arming
distance (m)
Trigger
radius (m)
Explosive mass
(TNT equivalent) (g)
Ricochet
0% 50% 100%
AA Mk.31 HE-VT 823 5.85 0 0.1 548 15 352.8 79° 80° 81°

Anti-aircraft armament

4 х Turret2 x 20 mm/70 Oerlikon Mk.II autocannon
Ammunition3600 rounds
Belt capacity60 rounds
Fire rate450 shots/min

With only four 20 mm Oerlikons, the Mitscher's dedicated anti-aircraft armament is quite average for its BR. Although useful as a last line of defense, in most cases these AA guns will only destroy enemy planes after they have dropped their weapons. It's much more advisable to keep an eye on the radar and eliminate aerial threats with the main guns from long range instead.

Additional armament

Setup 14 x 533 mm Mark 35 torpedo
Setup 244 x 320 mm Mark 108 Weapon alfa antisubmarine rocket launcher
Setup 344 x 320 mm Mark 108 Weapon alfa antisubmarine rocket launcher
2 x 533 mm Mark 35 torpedo

The Mitscher can be equipped with four 533 mm Mark 35 torpedoes in fixed mounts. These torpedoes are not powerful compared to contemporary torpedoes, nor are they particularly fast, but still retain sufficient explosive power at the Mitscher's battle rating. The primary limiting factor for these torpedoes are the fixed firing mounts, which means these torpedoes cannot be used with the same level of utility as on other destroyers.

The Mitscher also has access to two 320 mm Alfa antisubmarine rocket launchers. These rockets are very powerful, with an explosive mass of 113 kg of TNT, but are heavily limited by a range of 600 m. These mounts have very exposed ammunition storages, which deal a significant amount of damage to the Mitscher when detonated. However, the relatively high crew count and large size of the Mitscher means that the damage inflicted by a detonation of these rockets will not critically damage or wholly incapacitate the ship. Overall, the Alfa antisubmarine rockets are not recommended in general, but can be taken in some close-range maps.

Usage in battles

Despite her post-war main guns, the Mitscher still has the lowest damage output among other US destroyers at this BR, especially at long ranges, in which case the USS Gearing and USS Sumner would be better choices. Nevertheless, she is an excellent support vessel and overall a fun ship to play with. Stay behind cover or teammates and help eliminate targets that they may have trouble dealing with. Her fast rangefinder allows the Mitscher to deal with agile vessels like torpedo boats with more ease, and her radar and HE-VT shells will keep the skies clear. Even if forced into combat with other bluewater ships, the Mitscher can still hold her own with her large crew count and very high-penetrating SAP shells.

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Rapid-firing 127 mm autocannons capable of delivering continuous damage
  • Main turrets have good coverage and is fully traversable
  • Wide range of autocannons to deal against surface and aerial targets
  • Rockets can prove devastating at close range
  • Radar can calculate lead for anti-air duties with the main guns
  • Very fast rangefinding, only 6 seconds to measure and 3 seconds to update
  • SAP shell can penetrate all ships in her BR range

Cons:

  • The largest destroyer in the game, with the size of a light cruiser, can be easily targeted
  • Only two main guns, its effectiveness is significantly decreased when one or both is disabled
  • Very poor burst damage
  • Rocket ammo racks can be easily detonated
  • Fixed torpedoes mean ship has to be manoeuvred to aim

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Bath Iron Works
Patrol Torpedo Boat (PT) 
89’ Experimental PT  PT-810
Destroyer Escorts (DE) 
Dealey-class  USS Dealey
Gun Destroyers (DD) 
Wickes-class  HMS Montgomery*
Somers-class  USS Davis
Gearing-class  USS Frank Knox
Destroyer Leaders (DL) 
Mitscher-class  USS Mitscher
  *USS Wickes in UK service

USA destroyers
Clemson-class  USS Welborn C. Wood · USS Barker · USS Litchfield
Farragut-class  USS Aylwin
Bagley-class  USS Bagley
Porter-class  USS Porter · USS Phelps · USS Moffett
Somers-class  USS Somers · USS Davis
Fletcher-class  USS Fletcher · USS Bennion · USS Cowell
Allen M. Sumner-class  USS Sumner
Gearing-class  USS Gearing · USS Frank Knox
Mitscher-class  USS Mitscher · USS Wilkinson