Lancia 3Ro (100/17)

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Lancia 3Ro (100/17)
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Lancia 3Ro (100/17)
AB RB SB
2.0 1.7 1.7
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Purchase:6 300 Specs-Card-Lion.png
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Description

The 100/17 su Lancia 3Ro is a rank I Italian tank destroyer with a battle rating of 2.0 (AB) and 1.7 (RB/SB). It was introduced in Update "Danger Zone".

This vehicle was in base a truck mounted Obice da 100/17 model 1916 or Obice da 100/17 model 1914. The truck picked to be used for this vehicle (Lancia 3ro) was picked simply because of it's abundance in Italian military workshops of the area when the Italian general leading the invasion of Egypt at the time noted his need of a quick recon vehicle. Military factories and workshops in Italian occupied Libya quickly started producing these vehicles to satisfy his demand.

The models of the guns it carried (100/17) and the trucks they used for the base of it (Lancia 3ro) is what the Italian army based it's name off of. This vehicle was the same principle than many similar makeshift gun-mounted Lancia 3ro's but the reason of it's popularity was because only the models with 100/17 howitzers were mass produced by local factories. Though it was initially planned to be a repair and recon vehicle, The Lancia 3ro (100/17)'s surprising performances in the anti-tank role led to it being denominated as a tank destroyer.[1]

General info

Survivability and armour

Armourfront / side / back
Hull30 / 15 / 15
Turret30 / 15 / 15
Crew6 people
Visibility97 %

This truck has basically no armour, this is its greatest weak point. The crew can be knocked out even by rifle-calibre machine guns because it is exposed. The truck is quite big so it's an easy target to planes too.

Armour type:

  • Structural steel (cabin, chassis, gun mount)
  • Wood (truck bed, ammo boxes)
  • Wheel (tires)
Armour Front (Slope angle) Sides Rear Roof
Hull 3 x 1 mm Cabin
3 mm Truck bed
1 mm Cabin
15 mm Truck bed
15 mm Truck bed

Notes:

  • Wheels are 10 mm thick.

Mobility

Speedforward / back
AB49 / 13 km/h
RB and SB46 / 12 km/h
Number of gears8 forward
2 back
Weight8.5 t
Engine power
AB177 hp
RB and SB93 hp
Power-to-weight ratio
AB20.8 hp/t
RB and SB10.9 hp/t

The truck itself is quite light and its mobility allows it to reach good spots in battle. The turning circle of the truck is big so it's not easy and fast to turn around in confined spaces.

Game Mode Max Speed (km/h) Weight (tons) Engine power (horsepower) Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
Forward Reverse Stock Upgraded Stock Upgraded
Arcade 49 13 8.5 132 177 15.53 20.82
Realistic 46 12 82 93 9.65 10.94

Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference
AB305 → 380 Sl icon.png
RB329 → 410 Sl icon.png
SB396 → 494 Sl icon.png
Total cost of modifications5 920 Rp icon.png
4 480 Sl icon.png
Talisman cost410 Ge icon.png
Crew training1 800 Sl icon.png
Experts6 300 Sl icon.png
Aces75 Ge icon.png
Research Aces135 000 Rp icon.png
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
20 / 30 / 40 % Sl icon.png
106 / 106 / 106 % Rp icon.png
Modifications
Mobility Protection Firepower
Mods new wheels.png
Tires
Research:
300 Rp icon.png
Cost:
230 Sl icon.png
55 Ge icon.png
Mods new car suspension.png
Suspension
Research:
330 Rp icon.png
Cost:
250 Sl icon.png
65 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank break.png
Brake System
Research:
330 Rp icon.png
Cost:
250 Sl icon.png
65 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank filter.png
Filters
Research:
370 Rp icon.png
Cost:
280 Sl icon.png
70 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank transmission.png
Transmission
Research:
640 Rp icon.png
Cost:
480 Sl icon.png
120 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank engine.png
Engine
Research:
640 Rp icon.png
Cost:
480 Sl icon.png
120 Ge icon.png
Mods tank tool kit.png
Improved Parts
Research:
300 Rp icon.png
Cost:
230 Sl icon.png
55 Ge icon.png
Mods extinguisher.png
Improved FPE
Research:
330 Rp icon.png
Cost:
250 Sl icon.png
65 Ge icon.png
Mods tank reinforcement it.png
Crew Replenishment
Research:
370 Rp icon.png
Cost:
280 Sl icon.png
70 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank horizontal aiming.png
Horizontal Drive
Research:
300 Rp icon.png
Cost:
230 Sl icon.png
55 Ge icon.png
Mods tank ammo.png
100mm_Perforante_APC_ammo_pack
Research:
300 Rp icon.png
Cost:
230 Sl icon.png
55 Ge icon.png
Mods tank cannon.png
Adjustment of Fire
Research:
330 Rp icon.png
Cost:
250 Sl icon.png
65 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank vertical aiming.png
Elevation Mechanism
Research:
370 Rp icon.png
Cost:
280 Sl icon.png
70 Ge icon.png
Mods tank ammo.png
100mm_ep_HESH_ammo_pack
Research:
370 Rp icon.png
Cost:
280 Sl icon.png
70 Ge icon.png
Mods tank ammo.png
100mm_eps_HEAT_ammo_pack
Research:
640 Rp icon.png
Cost:
480 Sl icon.png
120 Ge icon.png

Armaments

Main armament

100 mm Cannone da 100/17 Mod.1914 cannon
Ammunition72 rounds
Reloadbasic crew → aces
13.0 → 10.0 s
Vertical guidance-8° / 48°

The 100 mm Cannone da 100/17 Mod.1914 has a long reload time. It has decent penetration for its BR but it's not that impressive either. The gun traverse is slow. The gun has no depression at front of the truck because of the cabin. Post-penetration damage is good. It usually knocks out opponents with a single shot, but not always.

100 mm Cannone da 100/17 Mod.1914 Turret rotation speed (°/s) Reloading rate (seconds)
Mode Capacity Vertical Horizontal Stabilizer Stock Upgraded Full Expert Aced Stock Full Expert Aced
Arcade 72 -8°/+48° ±180° N/A 12.3 17.1 20.7 22.9 24.4 13.00 11.50 10.60 10.00
Realistic 8.3 9.8 11.9 13.2 14.0

Ammunition

Penetration statistics
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
10 m 100 m 500 m 1,000 m 1,500 m 2,000 m
Granata da 100 Mod.32 HE 27 27 27 27 27 27
Granata da 100 Mod.914 AC 47 46 43 40 38 35
Effetto Pronto da 100 HESH 75 75 75 75 75 75
Effetto Pronto mod.43 HEAT 110 110 110 110 110 110
Shell details
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Velocity
(m/s)
Projectile
Mass (kg)
Fuse delay
(m)
Fuse sensitivity
(mm)
Explosive Mass
(TNT equivalent) (g)
Ricochet
0% 50% 100%
Granata da 100 Mod.32 HE 399 13.49 0 0.1 2,220 79° 80° 81°
Granata da 100 Mod.914 AC 370 16 1.2 19 1,550 47° 60° 65°
Effetto Pronto da 100 HESH 399 10.45 0.1 4 2,110 73° 77° 80°
Effetto Pronto mod.43 HEAT 431 12.5 0.05 0.1 1,540 62° 69° 73°

Ammo racks

Ammo racks of the Lancia 3Ro (100/17)
Full
ammo
1st
rack empty
2nd
rack empty
3rd
rack empty
Visual
discrepancy
72 56 (+16) 20 (+52) (+71) No

Machine guns

Ammunition1 680 rounds
Belt capacity24 rounds
Reloadbasic crew → aces
10.4 → 8.0 s
Fire rate600 shots/min
Main article: Breda Mod. 38 (8 mm)

There is an 8 mm Breda Mod. 38 machine gun on the front of the vehicle. Since it can give away your position, it is best to use it as a last resort weapon. Otherwise, you can use it against low-flying aircraft.

8 mm Breda Mod. 38
Mount Capacity (Belt) Fire rate Vertical Horizontal
Pintle 1,680 (24) 600 -10°/+25° ±20°

Usage in battles

The best way to play the Lancia 3Ro (100/17) is to use it as a flanker and suprise attack vehicle. Due to the vehicle being wheeled, it is able to reach spots at the start of the match that many vehicles on the enemy team will not expect fire from. One needs to have good situational awareness and also great map knowledge to fully take advantage of it. Finding a good spot where one will not be cut down by MG fire will unlock the full potential of the vehicle.

The Lancia 3Ro is an overall very weakly protected tank destroyer so its best to try to keep your distance from enemy vehicles. Any machine gun, artillery, or even air attacks could render the Lancia 3Ro out of combat. Note that the main armament of the vehicle does not have any depression when facing forward, so you are presenting your vehicle with either the side or back to the enemy. This is why it's best to find a good spot early in the match where one can take advantage of the better qualities this vehicle has to offer.

When it comes to other armaments, you have access to an 8 mm Breda Mod. 38 machine gun on the front of the vehicle. This weapon is largely useless except maybe against aircraft or other trucks. That being said, it is the only line of defence when the main gun is loading so keep that in mind when playing the Lancia 3Ro. If spotted, remember that the vehicle has a poor turning circle, so when in position make sure to keep in mind exit points in case ones position is revealed and is forced to retreat or move to another position.

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Has access to HESH and HEAT rounds
  • Fast speed on roads
  • Can hide the driver's compartment, improving chances of surviving an unfavourable encounter
  • Large number of crew

Cons:

  • No armour
  • Exposed ammo rack at the front
  • Can be knocked out by rifle-calibre machine gun fire
  • Not very good mobility offroad
  • Big turning circle
  • Slow gun traverse
  • No gun depression when facing forward
  • Slow muzzle velocity
  • Angle limitation of Breda Mod. 38, pointing only forward

History

The story of the Lancia 3Ro began during the mid-1930s, when Vincenzo Lancia started producing Ro trucks using Junkers diesel 2-cylinder 3.2L engines. In October 1937, the new 3Ro was introduced with a civilian variant (Serie 464) and a military variant (Serie 564). Deliveries began in 1938. It was very reliable and due to its performance on sandy terrain, it was given the nickname "Re del Deserto" (King of the Desert). The 3Ro was so robust and powerful that even the British started using them in North Africa when they had the rare chance of capturing them. The Soviets also allegedly captured some for their own use. It would also primarily been chosen because it was easy to maintain and also had great off road mobility for a vehicle of its class.

The Raggruppamento Esplorante Corpo d'Armata di Manovra (in English: Mobile Army Corps Reconnaissance Battlegroup) or RECAM for short, began to plan out an easy and cheap method to give their side a stronger fighting chance by upgunning several Lancia 3Ro trucks with the Skoda 100/17 howitzer. The cannon originated from the First World War and was captured or given to Italy via reparations by Austria-Hungary. In Italian service it would go under the name of Obice da 100/17 modello 16. Although the gun was old, it still proved its worth and became an extremely potent vehicle. The cannon it used was able to fire a multitude of munitions, including Granata da 100 Mod.32, Granata da 100 Mod.914, Effetto Pronto da 100, and Effetto Pronto mod.43. Interestingly enough, the Effetto Pronto da 100 was one of the first ever HESH-type munitions to ever be made and used in combat. After the First World War, they'd be officially standardised and would be used extensively around multiple Italian theatres. The first units would be made in 1940, and first saw combat a year later in 1941. The Lancia 3Ro proved to be a steady platform and quickly became one of the strongest support vehicles inside the Italian army's arsenal. In terms of mobility, the vehicle used the Lancia Tipo 102 water-cooled engine, which allowed the vehicle to reach speeds of up to 45 km/h. The vehicle was not armoured, the crew was exposed which meant that as soon as an enemy had the vehicle in its sights, chances are that the Lancia 3Ro would not have lasted much longer. During the North African campaign, the vehicle saw usage in many different battles such as the Battle of Marmatica. Sadly however, the Autocannone da 100/17 su Lancia 3Ro was produced in small numbers by the Regio Esercito, by 1943 most units if not all would be wiped out. Some Lancia 3Ro's exist today, but in the civilian variant, displayed in museums or owned by private citizens.

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Italy tank destroyers
  Italy
M41  75/18 M41 · 75/32 M41 · 90/53 M41M
M42  75/34 M42
M43  105/25 M43 · M43 "G.C.Leoncello" · 75/34 M43 · 75/46 M43
Wheeled  Lancia 3Ro (100/17) · AS 42/47 · Breda 90/53 · Breda 501
Other  L3/33 CC · 47/32 L40
Germany  ▄StuG III G
USA  M36B1 · ▄M109G · M113A1 (TOW)
  Hungary
Zrínyi  Zrinyi I · Zrinyi II
USSR  ◔2S1

  1. Autocannone da 100/17 su lancia 3ro, Arturo Giusti, tanks encyclopedia,https://tanks-encyclopedia.com/autocannone-da-100-17-su-lancia-3ro/, June 15th 2022