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{{Specs-Card|code=fr_amx_50_foch}}
 
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{{About
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== Description ==
 
== Description ==
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a Rank {{Specs|rank}} French tank destroyer {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced during [[Update 1.75 "La Résistance"]].
 
The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a Rank {{Specs|rank}} French tank destroyer {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced during [[Update 1.75 "La Résistance"]].
  
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== Armaments ==
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== General info ==
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=== Survivability and armour ===
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{| class="wikitable"
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|-
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! Armour !! Front (Slope angle) !! Sides !! Rear !! Roof
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| Hull || 180mm (55°) ''Front glacis'' <br> 100 mm (60°) ''Lower glacis'' <br> 180-300 (0-72°) + 180 mm ''Gun mantlet'' || 40 mm (15°) ''Top'' <br> 40 mm ''Bottom'' || 40 mm ''Top'' <br> 40 mm (40°) ''Bottom'' || 30 mm ''Fighting compartment'' <br> 20 mm ''Engine deck'' <br> 90 mm ''Gun mantlet''
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|-
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! Armour !! Sides !! Roof
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|-
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| Cupola || 200 mm ''Front'' <br> 30 mm ''Everywhere else'' || 30 mm
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|-
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|}
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'''Notes:'''
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* Suspension wheels and tracks are both 20 mm thick.
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* Road wheels are interleaved and provide cumulative protection for the lower side hull.
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=== Mobility ===
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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|-
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!colspan="3" | Mobility characteristic
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|-
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! Weight (tons)
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!colspan="1" | Add-on Armor<br>weight (tons)
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!colspan="1" | Max speed (km/h)
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|-
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|rowspan="2" | 58.0 || colspan="1" rowspan="2" | N/A || colspan="1" | 54 (AB)
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|-
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|50 (RB/SB)
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|-
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!colspan="3" | Engine power (horsepower)
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|-
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!colspan="1" | Mode
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!Stock
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!Upgraded
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|''Arcade''
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|1,420
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|___
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|''Realistic/Simulator''
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|884
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!colspan="3" | Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
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!colspan="1" | Mode
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!Stock
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!Upgraded
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|''Arcade''
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|24.48
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|-
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|''Realistic/Simulator''
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|15.24
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|-
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|}
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=== Main armament ===
 
=== Main armament ===
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{{main|SA46 (120 mm)}}
  
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=== Additional armament ===
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|-
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! colspan="6" | [[SA46 (120 mm)|120 mm SA46]]
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|-
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! colspan="3" rowspan="1" style="width:5em" |Capacity
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! rowspan="1" | Vertical <br> guidance
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! rowspan="1" | Horizontal <br> guidance
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! rowspan="1" | Stabilizer
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| colspan="3" | 48 || -6°/+16° || ±9° || N/A
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|-
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! colspan="6" | Turret rotation speed (°/s)
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! style="width:4em" |Mode
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! style="width:4em" |Stock
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! style="width:4em" |Upgraded
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! style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
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! style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
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! style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
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| ''Arcade'' || __.__ || __.__ || __.__ || __.__ || __.__
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|-
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| ''Realistic'' || __.__ || __.__ || __.__ || __.__ || __.__
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|-
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! colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
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|-
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! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Stock
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! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Full crew
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! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Expert qualif.
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! colspan="1" style="width:4em" |Prior + Ace qualif.
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|-
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| 19.4 || __.__ || __.__ || __.__
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|}
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===== Ammunition =====
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{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
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! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
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! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
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! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of <br /> warhead
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! colspan="6" | '''Penetration''' '''''in mm''''' '''@ 0° Angle of Attack'''
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! 10m
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! 100m
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! 500m
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! 1000m
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! 1500m
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! 2000m
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| 120 mm Obus de rupture || AP || 303 || 302 || 286 || 267 || 251 || 235
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| 120 mm Obus explosif || HE || 39 || 39 || 39 || 39 || 39 || 39
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|}
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{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
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! colspan="11" | Shell details
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! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
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! rowspan="2" class="unsortable" | Type of <br /> warhead
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! rowspan="2" |Velocity <br /> in m/s
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! rowspan="2" |Projectile<br />Mass in kg
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! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse delay''
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''in m:''
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! rowspan="2" | ''Fuse sensitivity''
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''in mm:''
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! rowspan="2" | ''Explosive Mass in g<br /> (TNT equivalent):''
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! rowspan="2" | ''Normalization At 30° <br> from horizontal:''
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! colspan="3" | ''Ricochet:''
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! 0%
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! 50%
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! 100%
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| 120 mm Obus de rupture || AP || 1,067 || 23 || N/A || N/A || N/A || ° || 48° || 63° || 71°
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| 120 mm Obus explosif || HE || 762 || 23 || 0.1 || 0.1 || 4,650 || +0° || 79° || 80° || 81°
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|}
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===== [[Ammo racks|Ammo racks]] =====
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[[File:Ammoracks_AMX-50_Foch.png|right|thumbnail|x250px|[[Ammo racks|Ammo racks]] of the AMX-50 Foch.]]
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{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center"
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! class="wikitable unsortable" |1st<br />  rack empty
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! class="wikitable unsortable" |2nd<br />  rack empty
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! class="wikitable unsortable" |3rd<br />  rack empty
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! class="wikitable unsortable" |4th<br />  rack empty
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! class="wikitable unsortable" |5th<br />  rack empty
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! class="wikitable unsortable" |Visual<br /> discrepancy
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|| '''48''' || 43&nbsp;''(+5)'' || 31&nbsp;''(+17)'' || 19&nbsp;''(+29)'' || 5&nbsp;''(+43)'' || 1&nbsp;''(+47)'' || style="text-align:left" | yes
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Right side empty: 19&nbsp;(+29)
  
 
=== Machine guns ===
 
=== Machine guns ===
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{{main|MG 151/15 (15 mm)}}
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! colspan="7" | ''Loader's cupola mount''
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! colspan="4" rowspan="1" style="width:5em" |Capacity (Belt capacity)
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! rowspan="1" | Fire rate <br> (shots/minute)
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! rowspan="1" | Vertical <br> guidance
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! rowspan="1" | Horizontal <br> guidance
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| colspan="4" | 500 (500) || 700 || -3°/+20° || -35°/+160°
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== Usage in battles ==
 
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=== Pros and cons ===
 
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'''Pros:'''
 
'''Pros:'''
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* Immense spalling from the AP shells; head-on insta-kills are very likely.
 
* Immense spalling from the AP shells; head-on insta-kills are very likely.
 
* Good mobility.
 
* Good mobility.
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* Rangefinder logs range very quickly
  
 
'''Cons:'''
 
'''Cons:'''
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* Limited ammo choices.
 
* Limited ammo choices.
 
* AP shells will have a hard time killing some opponents from the side.
 
* AP shells will have a hard time killing some opponents from the side.
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* Very thin side armour
  
 
== History ==
 
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== Media ==
 
== Media ==
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[https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicleCountry=france&vehicleType=tank&vehicleClass=tank_destroyer&vehicle=fr_amx_50_foch '''Skins''' and '''camouflages''' for the AMX-50 Foch from live.warthunder.com.]
  
 
== See also ==
 
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* [https://warthunder.com/en/news/5292-vehicle-amx-50-foch-racing-tortoise-en [Vehicles<nowiki>]</nowiki> AMX-50 Foch: Racing Tortoise]
  
 
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Revision as of 17:50, 29 March 2019

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AMX-50 Foch
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AMX-50 Foch
France flag.png France
V Rank
Battle rating:
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7.3 7.3 7.3
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This page is about the tank destroyer AMX-50 Foch. For other uses, see AMX-50 (Family).

Description

GarageImage AMX-50 Foch.jpg


The Canon automoteur AMX-50 Foch is a Rank V French tank destroyer with a battle rating of 7.3 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced during Update 1.75 "La Résistance".

General info

Survivability and armour

Armour Front (Slope angle) Sides Rear Roof
Hull 180mm (55°) Front glacis
100 mm (60°) Lower glacis
180-300 (0-72°) + 180 mm Gun mantlet 		40 mm (15°) Top
40 mm Bottom 		40 mm Top
40 mm (40°) Bottom 		30 mm Fighting compartment
20 mm Engine deck
90 mm Gun mantlet
Armour Sides Roof
Cupola 200 mm Front
30 mm Everywhere else 		30 mm

Notes:

  • Suspension wheels and tracks are both 20 mm thick.
  • Road wheels are interleaved and provide cumulative protection for the lower side hull.

Mobility

Mobility characteristic
Weight (tons) Add-on Armor
weight (tons) 		Max speed (km/h)
58.0 N/A 54 (AB)
50 (RB/SB)
Engine power (horsepower)
Mode Stock Upgraded
Arcade 1,420 ___
Realistic/Simulator 884 ___
Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
Mode Stock Upgraded
Arcade 24.48 __.__
Realistic/Simulator 15.24 __.__

Main armament

Main article: SA46 (120 mm)
120 mm SA46
Capacity Vertical
guidance 		Horizontal
guidance 		Stabilizer
48 -6°/+16° ±9° N/A
Turret rotation speed (°/s)
Mode Stock Upgraded Prior + Full crew Prior + Expert qualif. Prior + Ace qualif.
Arcade __.__ __.__ __.__ __.__ __.__
Realistic __.__ __.__ __.__ __.__ __.__
Reloading rate (seconds)
Stock Prior + Full crew Prior + Expert qualif. Prior + Ace qualif.
19.4 __.__ __.__ __.__
Ammunition
Penetration statistics
Ammunition Type of
warhead 		Penetration in mm @ 0° Angle of Attack
10m 100m 500m 1000m 1500m 2000m
120 mm Obus de rupture AP 303 302 286 267 251 235
120 mm Obus explosif HE 39 39 39 39 39 39
Shell details
Ammunition Type of
warhead 		Velocity
in m/s 		Projectile
Mass in kg 		Fuse delay

in m:

Fuse sensitivity

in mm:

Explosive Mass in g
(TNT equivalent): 		Normalization At 30°
from horizontal: 		Ricochet:
0% 50% 100%
120 mm Obus de rupture AP 1,067 23 N/A N/A N/A ° 48° 63° 71°
120 mm Obus explosif HE 762 23 0.1 0.1 4,650 +0° 79° 80° 81°
Ammo racks
Ammo racks of the AMX-50 Foch.
Full
ammo 		1st
rack empty 		2nd
rack empty 		3rd
rack empty 		4th
rack empty 		5th
rack empty 		Visual
discrepancy
48 43 (+5) 31 (+17) 19 (+29) 5 (+43) 1 (+47) yes

Right side empty: 19 (+29)

Machine guns

Main article: MG 151/15 (15 mm)
15 mm MG151/15
Loader's cupola mount
Capacity (Belt capacity) Fire rate
(shots/minute) 		Vertical
guidance 		Horizontal
guidance
500 (500) 700 -3°/+20° -35°/+160°

Usage in battles

Describe the tactics of playing in the vehicle, the features of using vehicles in the team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view but instead give the reader food for thought. Describe the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Very powerful 120mm gun; can even penetrate the Maus at some points.
  • Reasonably fast.
  • Has an MG-151 for a coaxial weapon.
  • Great armor on the front slope plate (upper glacis).
  • Immense spalling from the AP shells; head-on insta-kills are very likely.
  • Good mobility.
  • Rangefinder logs range very quickly

Cons:

  • No turret; vulnerable to getting flanked.
  • Longer reload than the AMX-50 Surbaisse.
  • Limited ammo choices.
  • AP shells will have a hard time killing some opponents from the side.
  • Very thin side armour

History

Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the ground vehicle in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too big, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/ History" (example: https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History) and add a link to it here using the main template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <ref>, as well as adding them at the end of the article. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under === Encyclopedia Info ===, also if applicable).

Media

Skins and camouflages for the AMX-50 Foch from live.warthunder.com.

See also

Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:

  • reference to the series of the vehicles;
  • links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.

External links


France tank destroyers
Lorraine 40t derivatives  CA Lorraine · Lorraine 155 Mle.50
ATGM  MEPHISTO · AMX-10M
Other  AMR.35 ZT3 · Lorraine 37L · SAu 40 · ARL-44 · ELC bis · AMX-50 Foch · AuF1
USA  ▄M10 GMC · ▄M36B2

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