105/25 M43

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105/25 M43
105/25 M43
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This page is about the Italian tank destroyer 105/25 M43. For premium version, see 105/25 M43 "G.C.Leoncello".


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The Semovente 105/25 M43 is a Rank II Italian tank destroyer with a battle rating of 3.0 (AB/RB/SB). This vehicle was introduced in Update 1.85 "Supersonic".

General info

Survivability and armour

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Main armament

105 mm Cannone Ansaldo da 105/25
Capacity Vertical
48 -10°/+16° ±18° N/A
Turret rotation speed (°/s)
Mode Stock Upgraded Prior + Full crew Prior + Expert qualif. Prior + Ace qualif.
Arcade 12.3 __.__ __.__ __.__ __.__
Realistic 8.3 __.__ __.__ __.__ __.__
Reloading rate (seconds)
Stock Prior + Full crew Prior + Expert qualif. Prior + Ace qualif.
13.0 __.__ __.__ __.__
Penetration statistics
Ammunition Type of
Penetration in mm @ 90°
10m 100m 500m 1000m 1500m 2000m
Granata Perforante da 105 APC 90 88 80 71 63 56
Effeto Pronto mod.43 HEAT 120 120 120 120 120 120
Shell details
Ammunition Type of
in m/s
Mass in kg
Fuse delay

in m:

Fuse sensitivity

in mm:

Explosive Mass in g
(TNT equivalent):
Normalization At 30°
from horizontal:
0% 50% 100%
Granata Perforante da 105 APC 500 16 0.8 28 275 ° 48° 63° 71°
Effeto Pronto mod.43 HEAT 510 14 0.0 0.1 1.8 ° 62° 69° 73°
Ammo racks
rack empty
rack empty
rack empty
XX XX (+XX) XX (+XX) XX (+XX) No

Usage in battles

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Pros and cons

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  • Hard-hitting 105 mm gun
  • Small profile = harder for enemies to spot
  • Has access to HEAT rounds.
  • Respectable frontal armor
  • Decent mobility overall
  • Decent gun depression of -10 degrees.


  • As with all casemate tank destroyers, it is vulnerable to getting flanked.
  • No machine gun
  • Somewhat long reload, can be drastically increased if a crew member gets knocked out.
  • Only 3 crew members
  • Can be vulnerable to planes strafing from above
  • No HE rounds to deal with lightly armored vehicles


In mid-1942, the Italian Army put out a set of requirements for a new vehicle that could double up as both an infantry support vehicle as well as a tank destroyer, depending on the situation. In response to this, Fiat-Ansaldo and OTO both began developing prototypes around these requirements in parallel.

The two competing designs primarily differed in the chassis choice. OTO picked the newer chassis of the P40 heavy tank whilst Fiat-Ansaldo chose to opt for a newer and larger version of the chassis already in production for their Semovente M42.

This decision allowed Fiat-Ansaldo to complete their prototype much sooner. In February 1943, the Semovente 105/25 M43 was presented to military officials and was soon afterwards ordered into production, following successful trials.

Production began in April 1943, with a planned production run of over 800 vehicles. However, with Italy’s industry at this late stage of the war being severely crippled, production was slow and reaching such high production goals was more than unlikely.

Just prior to the signing of the armistice in September, the 30th vehicle rolled off the assembly line. The Semovente 105/25 M43 proved itself in combat during the defence of Rome, where the SPGs successfully engaged German forces trying to retake the city.

After the occupation of northern Italy by German forces, the Fiat-Ansaldo company restarted production of the Semovente 105/25, this time however, for the Germans. Germany only used a limited number of these vehicles under the designation Sturmgeschütz M43 mit 105/25 853(i), of which most were no longer in use by late 1944.

Around 120 Semovente 105/25 M43s were built by 1944, primarily serving with Italian or German forces. By the late stages of the war, only a limited number was still in service and after the end of WW2, the vehicle was retired from service.

- From Devblog


Skin and Camouflages for the 105/25 M43 in Warthunder Live.

See also

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External links

Italy tank destroyers
M41  75/18 M41 · 75/32 M41 · 90/53 M41M
M42  75/34 M42
M43  105/25 M43 · M43 "G.C.Leoncello" · 75/34 M43 · 75/46 M43
Wheeled  Breda 501
Other  L3/33 CC · 47/32 L40
Post-War  Centauro · Centauro ROMOR · Centauro MGS
USA  ▄M18 · M36B1 · M113A1 (TOW)
Germany  ▄StuG III G