CA Lorraine
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Description
The Canon d'assaut Lorraine de 100 mm (100 mm Lorraine assault gun), or abbreviated CA Lorraine, is a Rank IV French tank destroyer
with a battle rating of 5.7 (AB) and 6.0 (RB/SB). It was introduced in Update 1.75 "La Résistance". It presents a very classic TD design: Casemate gun platform and powerful armament. While lacking a bit in terms of armour, it surely compensates with superior mobility.
The CA Lorraine is an intermediate between a SU-85 and a lowered Jagdpanther. It is distinguishable for having rubber road wheels instead of metal ones, two huge fans atop the engine deck (much like the German Jagdpanther), a very pointy gun mantlet pointing outwards from the casemate and quite a large, rounded commander's cupola. In some ways, it is quite similar to the fearsome AMX 50 Foch, this can scare away some cowardly foe.
General info
Survivability and armour
Its sloped, medium thickness frontal armour will not protect you from anything bigger than SPAA shots (some may even get through in close quarters) but it is certainly sufficient for what it is designed to do: protecting from stray bullets in long range engagements. Side and top armour are also quite weak so don't expect to survive any kind of surprise coming from side or top. Still, this tank has 5 crew members, which can often save it from a (too) quick death.
Armour type:
- Rolled homogeneous armour (Casemate hull)
- Cast homogeneous armour (Gun mantlet, Driver's hatch)
| Armour | Front | Sides | Rear | Roof |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Hull | 50 mm (55°) Front glacis 35 mm (60°) Lower glacis 60-150 (0-88°) + 35-60 mm (2-88°) Gun mantlet |
30 mm (15°) Front 30 mm Bottom |
25 mm (23°) Top 25 mm (55°) Bottom |
20 mm 8 mm Engine grille |
| Armour | Sides | Roof | ||
| Cupola | 50 mm | 20 mm |
Notes:
- Suspension wheels and tracks are 20 mm thick.
Mobility
If anyone thought the Lorraine 40t was a sprinter, this is even better. The CA Lorraine is fast. Not only in forward motion is it fast, it can retreat at a decent, constant, -16 km/h and it has ability to neutral steer, these enable fast reaction to quickly changing battlefield odds such as flanking maneuvers or enemy breakthrough. An experimented player can take clear advantage over its foes by achieving good placement and this tank is the perfect tool for this task.
| Mobility characteristic | ||
|---|---|---|
| Weight (tons) | Add-on Armour weight (tons) |
Max speed (km/h) |
| 25.0 | N/A | 68 (AB) |
| 62 (RB/SB) | ||
| Engine power (horsepower) | ||
| Mode | Stock | Upgraded |
| Arcade | 973 | _,___ |
| Realistic/Simulator | 606 | 685 |
| Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton) | ||
| Mode | Stock | Upgraded |
| Arcade | 11.25 | __.__ |
| Realistic/Simulator | 7.00 | 7.92 |
Armaments
Main armament
This gun platform uses the usual French rank IV 100 mm SA47 L/58 cannon with a twist: it has no autoloader mechanism, hence making reload time twice as long. Keep that in mind as your foes get closer and closer to you: these precious 15 seconds of reload time are the perfect time to intent a frontal attack, even more so since you don't even have automatic firepower of any form.
| 100 mm SA47 L/58 | |||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Capacity | Vertical guidance |
Horizontal guidance |
Stabilizer | ||
| 40 | -6°/+16° | ±9° | N/A | ||
| Turret rotation speed (°/s) | |||||
| Mode | Stock | Upgraded | Prior + Full crew | Prior + Expert qualif. | Prior + Ace qualif. |
| Arcade | 5.3 | __.__ | __.__ | __.__ | __.__ |
| Realistic | 3.6 | __.__ | __.__ | __.__ | __.__ |
| Reloading rate (seconds) | |||||
| Stock | Prior + Full crew | Prior + Expert qualif. | Prior + Ace qualif. | ||
| 15.6 | __.__ | __.__ | __.__ | ||
Ammunition
| Penetration statistics | |||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Ammunition | Type of warhead |
Penetration in mm @ 0° Angle of Attack | |||||
| 10m | 100m | 500m | 1000m | 1500m | 2000m | ||
| 100 mm Obus de rupture | APCBC | 295 | 293 | 279 | 263 | 248 | 233 |
| 100 mm Obus explosif | HE | 22 | 22 | 21 | 20 | 20 | 20 |
| Shell details | ||||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Ammunition | Type of warhead |
Velocity in m/s |
Projectile Mass in kg |
Fuse delay
in m: |
Fuse sensitivity
in mm: |
Explosive Mass in g (TNT equivalent): |
Normalization At 30° from horizontal: |
Ricochet: | ||
| 0% | 50% | 100% | ||||||||
| 100 mm Obus de rupture | APCBC | 1,060 | 15 | N/A | N/A | N/A | ° | 48° | 63° | 71° |
| 100 mm Obus explosif | HE | 1,000 | 15 | 0.1 | 0.5 | 1,400 | +0° | 79° | 80° | 81° |
Ammo racks
| Full ammo |
1st rack empty |
2nd rack empty |
3rd rack empty |
4th rack empty |
Visual discrepancy |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 40 | 31 (+9) | 21 (+19) | 11 (+29) | 1 (+39) | no |
Usage in battles
This tank sits with confidence at BR 6.0 as a regular tank destroyer. There is nothing very special to it but it performs good in most situations. Use your good mobility to take a competitive spot and reposition every now and then : once you get spotted, it is already too late. Hopefully, this tank's awesome mobility and neutral steering will make your day easier.
Use this tank as a classic tank destroyer while enjoying its great mobility. Any good move with a casemate TD is a good move with this tank.
Pros and cons
Pros:
- Good firepower, uses the same gun as AMX-50-100 and Lorraine 40t
- Very good reverse speed
- Low profile
- Wide tracks
- Capable of neutral steering
- Strong gun mantlet may bounce shots
- Fast with very good maneuverability
- Awesome power ratio: 38+ HP/ton
Cons:
- Thin armour (50 mm) sloped at 55°
- Very thin side and top armour: not a frontline tank
- Weak LFP at 35mm (60°)
- Reload rate is not impressive
- Poor gun depression (-6)
- Lacks HE filler in AP shots
- No coaxial MG
- Low gun placement
- Only two shell types
- Somewhat weak optic zoom
- Large hull
- Large ammo racks on both sides of the hull
History
The CA Lorraine was developed and tested in the late 1940s, but never saw active service.
Media
Skin and Camouflages for the CA Lorraine in Warthunder Live.
See also
Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:
- reference to the series of the vehicles;
- links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.
External links
Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:
- topic on the official game forum;
- encyclopedia page on the tank;
- other literature.
| France tank destroyers | |
|---|---|
| Lorraine 40t derivatives | CA Lorraine · Lorraine 155 Mle.50 |
| ATGM | MEPHISTO · AMX-10M |
| Other | AMR.35 ZT3 · Lorraine 37L · SAu 40 · ARL-44 · ELC bis · AMX-50 Foch · AuF1 |
| USA | ▄M10 GMC · ▄M36B2 |
