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== General info ==
 
== General info ==
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
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The Sav m/43 has up to 50 mm of armour in front, which is capable of deflecting some guns commonly encountered but is still vulnerable to larger calibers. It has better frontal protection than the [[Ikv 72]], but is still rather lightly armoured from other angles. It should be noted that the engine deck is only 10 mm thick, and can be penetrated by aircraft heavy machine guns and cannon. The side armour is only 15 mm thick at most, and can also be penetrated quite easily by heavy machins guns and autocannon fire.
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The Sav m/43 has up to 50 mm of armour in front, which is capable of deflecting some guns commonly encountered but is still vulnerable to larger calibres. It has better frontal protection than the [[Ikv 72]], but is still rather lightly armoured from other angles. It should be noted that the engine deck is only 10 mm thick, and can be penetrated by aircraft heavy machine guns and cannon. The side armour is only 15 mm thick at most, and can also be penetrated quite easily by heavy machins guns and autocannon fire.
  
 
Due to the cramped crew compartment and scattered ammunition within the compartment, any penetration by a shell is likely to cause critical damage to multiple modules and/or crew members.
 
Due to the cramped crew compartment and scattered ammunition within the compartment, any penetration by a shell is likely to cause critical damage to multiple modules and/or crew members.
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{{tankMobility|abMinHp= 227|rbMinHp= 142}}The Sav m/43 is based on the chassis of the [[Strv m/41 S-II|Strv m/41]] and thus has a similar level of mobility. It is considerably heavier, however, and thus correspondingly more sluggish. While the forward top speed is adequate, the reverse speed is quite poor, making it hard to retreat. It is also noticeably slower than the [[Ikv 72]].
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The Sav m/43 is based on the chassis of the [[Strv m/41 S-II|Strv m/41]] and thus has a similar level of mobility. It is considerably heavier, however, and thus correspondingly more sluggish. While the forward top speed is adequate, the reverse speed is quite poor, making it hard to retreat. It is also noticeably slower than the [[Ikv 72]].
  
 
== Armaments ==
 
== Armaments ==
 
=== Main armament ===
 
=== Main armament ===
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The Sav m/43 is armed with the '''7,5 cm kan m/02''', an older and weaker 75 mm field gun compared to that used in the [[Ikv 72]]. It has wider traverse arcs and higher maximum elevation, but less gun depression than the Ikv 72, though still quite good at -10 degrees. It starts off with the unremarkable '''slpprj m/40''' uncapped AP shot, which is adequate against most opposition it may encounter but tends to suffer ricochets against sloped armour. However, once upgraded, the gun may fire the '''slpgr m/39''' uncapped APHE shell and the '''slpprj m/40B''' APBC shot. The former round has a very lethal 260 g TNT filler but tends to ricochet more and has less penetration, while the latter has better penetration and ricochets less, and is thus more useful in uptiers. It is recommended to carry a mixture of both APHE and APBC unless the Sav m/43 is top tier, in which case the APHE alone is sufficient.  
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{{main|Kan m/02 (75 mm)}}
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The Sav m/43 is armed with the '''7,5 cm kan m/02''', an older and weaker 75 mm field gun compared to that used in the [[Ikv 72]]. It has wider traverse arcs and higher maximum elevation, but less gun depression than the Ikv 72, though still quite good at -10 degrees. It starts off with the unremarkable '''slpprj m/40''' uncapped AP shot, which is adequate against most opposition it may encounter but tends to suffer ricochets against sloped armour. However, once upgraded, the gun may fire the '''slpgr m/39''' uncapped APHE shell and the '''slpprj m/40B''' APBC shot. The former round has a very lethal 260 g TNT filler but tends to ricochet more and has less penetration, while the latter has better penetration and ricochets less, and is thus more useful in uptiers. It is recommended to carry a mixture of both APHE and APBC unless the Sav m/43 is top tier, in which case the APHE alone is sufficient.
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
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|-
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! colspan="5" | [[Kan m/02 (75 mm)|75 mm Kan m/02]] || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
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|-
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! Mode !! Capacity !! Vertical !! Horizontal !! Stabilizer
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! Stock !! Upgraded !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
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! Stock !! Full !! Expert !! Aced
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|-
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! ''Arcade''
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| rowspan="2" | 80 || rowspan="2" | -10°/+25° || rowspan="2" | ±15° || rowspan="2" | N/A || 7.0 || __._ || __._ || __._ || __._ || rowspan="2" | 7.6 || rowspan="2" | _._ || rowspan="2" | _._ || rowspan="2" | _._
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|-
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! ''Realistic''
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| 4.8 || __._ || __._ || __._ || __._
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|-
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|}
  
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=== Additional armament ===
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==== Ammunition ====
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None.
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{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
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! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
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|-
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! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
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! rowspan="2" | Type of<br>warhead
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! colspan="6" | '''Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)'''
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|-
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! 10 m !! 100 m !! 500 m !! 1,000 m !! 1,500 m !! 2,000 m
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|-
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| sgr m/22-38 || HE || 9 || 9 || 9 || 9 || 9 || 9
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|-
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| slpgr m/39 || APHE || 51 || 49 || 43 || 36 || 30 || 25
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|-
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| slpprj m/40 || AP || 69 || 67 || 60 || 52 || 45 || 39
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|-
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| slpprj m/40B || APBC || 68 || 66 || 58 || 50 || 43 || 37
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|-
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|}
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{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
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! colspan="10" | Shell details
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|-
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! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
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! rowspan="2" | Type of<br>warhead
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! rowspan="2" | Velocity<br>(m/s)
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! rowspan="2" | Projectile<br>Mass (kg)
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! rowspan="2" | Fuse delay<br>(m)
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! rowspan="2" | Fuse sensitivity<br>(mm)
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! rowspan="2" | Explosive Mass<br>(TNT equivalent) (g)
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! colspan="3" | Ricochet
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|-
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! 0% !! 50% !! 100%
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|-
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| sgr m/22-38 || HE || 496 || 6.6 || 0.4 || 0.5 || 550 || 79° || 80° || 81°
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|-
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| slpgr m/39 || APHE || 496 || 6.5 || 1.2 || 9.0 || 260 || 47° || 60° || 65°
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|-
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| slpprj m/40 || AP || 501 || 6.6 || N/A || N/A || N/A || 47° || 60° || 65°
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|-
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| slpprj m/40B || APBC || 505 || 6.3 || N/A || N/A || N/A || 48° || 63° || 71°
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|-
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|}
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{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center"
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! colspan="7" | Smoke shell characteristics
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|-
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! Ammunition
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! Velocity<br>(m/s)
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! Projectile<br>Mass (kg)
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! Screen radius<br>(m)
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! Screen deploy time<br>(s)
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! Screen hold time<br>(s)
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! Explosive Mass<br>(TNT equivalent) (g)
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|-
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| rökgr m/22 || 496 || 6.6 || 13 || 5 || 20 || 8
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|-
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|}
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==== [[Ammo racks]] ====
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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|-
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! Full<br>ammo
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! 1st<br>rack empty
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! 2nd<br>rack empty
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! 3rd<br>rack empty
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! 4th<br>rack empty
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! 5th<br>rack empty
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! 6th<br>rack empty
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! Visual<br>discrepancy
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|-
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| '''80''' || __&nbsp;''(+__)'' || __&nbsp;''(+__)'' || __&nbsp;''(+__)'' || __&nbsp;''(+__)'' || __&nbsp;''(+__)'' || __&nbsp;''(+__)'' || __
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|-
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|}
  
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=== Machine guns ===
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==== [[Optics]] ====
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None.
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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! colspan="3" | {{PAGENAME}} Optics
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|-
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!
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! Default magnification
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! Maximum magnification
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|-
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! Main Gun optics
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| X1.8 || X3.5
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|-
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! Comparable optics
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| colspan="2" | ___
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|-
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|}
  
 
== Usage in battles ==
 
== Usage in battles ==
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The Sav m/43 is a more forgiving alternative to the Ikv 72. Like the Ikv 72, it performs best in hull down positions, as it can use the depression to present a steeper angle on the frontal armour to increase its effective thickness. It is somewhat less vulnerable than the Ikv 72, though it is still very weakly armoured from the sides, top, and rear, and must be played accordingly. It is also rather less flexible than the Ikv 72 due to its poorer mobility.
 
The Sav m/43 is a more forgiving alternative to the Ikv 72. Like the Ikv 72, it performs best in hull down positions, as it can use the depression to present a steeper angle on the frontal armour to increase its effective thickness. It is somewhat less vulnerable than the Ikv 72, though it is still very weakly armoured from the sides, top, and rear, and must be played accordingly. It is also rather less flexible than the Ikv 72 due to its poorer mobility.
  
 
While the gun is quite adequate against most enemies, it becomes obsolete in uptiers, where tanks with good armour such as the [[M3 Lee|Medium Tank M3]] and [[Matilda Mk II|Matilda]] can be encountered. The armour on the Sav m/43 also becomes inadequate quite quickly in uptiers.
 
While the gun is quite adequate against most enemies, it becomes obsolete in uptiers, where tanks with good armour such as the [[M3 Lee|Medium Tank M3]] and [[Matilda Mk II|Matilda]] can be encountered. The armour on the Sav m/43 also becomes inadequate quite quickly in uptiers.
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=== Modules ===
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{| class="wikitable"
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! Tier
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! colspan="2" | Mobility
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! Protection
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! colspan="2" | Firepower
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|-
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| I
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| Tracks
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|
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| Parts
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| Horizontal Drive
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|
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|-
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| II
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| Suspension
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| Brake System
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| FPE
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| Adjustment of Fire
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| rökgr m/22
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|-
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| III
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| Filters
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|
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| Crew Replenishment
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| Elevation Mechanism
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| slpgr m/39
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|-
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| IV
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| Transmission
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| Engine
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|
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| slpprj m/40B
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|
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|-
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|}
  
 
=== Pros and cons ===
 
=== Pros and cons ===
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'''Pros:'''
 
'''Pros:'''
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* Decent frontal armour
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* Decent frontal armour.
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* Lethal APHE round
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* Lethal APHE round.
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* Wide gun traverse arc and good gun depression
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* Wide gun traverse arc and good gun depression.
 
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'''Cons:'''
 
'''Cons:'''
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* Low penetration for a 75 mm gun
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* Low penetration for a 75 mm gun.
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* Very thin side, rear, and roof armour
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* Very thin side, rear, and roof armour.
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* Mediocre mobility and poor reverse speed
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* Mediocre mobility and poor reverse speed.
 
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== History ==
 
== History ==
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== See also ==
 
== See also ==
 
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Revision as of 09:17, 5 April 2020

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Sav m/43 (1944)
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Sav m/43 (1944)
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Battle rating:
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Description

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The Stormartillerivagn m/43 (1944) is a rank I Swedish tank destroyer with a battle rating of 1.7 (AB/RB/SB). It was introduced in Update 1.97 "Viking Fury".

General info

Survivability and armour

The Sav m/43 has up to 50 mm of armour in front, which is capable of deflecting some guns commonly encountered but is still vulnerable to larger calibres. It has better frontal protection than the Ikv 72, but is still rather lightly armoured from other angles. It should be noted that the engine deck is only 10 mm thick, and can be penetrated by aircraft heavy machine guns and cannon. The side armour is only 15 mm thick at most, and can also be penetrated quite easily by heavy machins guns and autocannon fire.

Due to the cramped crew compartment and scattered ammunition within the compartment, any penetration by a shell is likely to cause critical damage to multiple modules and/or crew members.

Mobility

Game Mode Max Speed (km/h) Weight (tons) Engine power (horsepower) Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
Forward Reverse Stock Upgraded Stock Upgraded
Arcade 45 7 11.7 227 305 19.4 26.07
Realistic 41 6 142 160 12.14 13.68

The Sav m/43 is based on the chassis of the Strv m/41 and thus has a similar level of mobility. It is considerably heavier, however, and thus correspondingly more sluggish. While the forward top speed is adequate, the reverse speed is quite poor, making it hard to retreat. It is also noticeably slower than the Ikv 72.

Armaments

Main armament

Main article: Kan m/02 (75 mm)

The Sav m/43 is armed with the 7,5 cm kan m/02, an older and weaker 75 mm field gun compared to that used in the Ikv 72. It has wider traverse arcs and higher maximum elevation, but less gun depression than the Ikv 72, though still quite good at -10 degrees. It starts off with the unremarkable slpprj m/40 uncapped AP shot, which is adequate against most opposition it may encounter but tends to suffer ricochets against sloped armour. However, once upgraded, the gun may fire the slpgr m/39 uncapped APHE shell and the slpprj m/40B APBC shot. The former round has a very lethal 260 g TNT filler but tends to ricochet more and has less penetration, while the latter has better penetration and ricochets less, and is thus more useful in uptiers. It is recommended to carry a mixture of both APHE and APBC unless the Sav m/43 is top tier, in which case the APHE alone is sufficient.

75 mm Kan m/02 Turret rotation speed (°/s) Reloading rate (seconds)
Mode Capacity Vertical Horizontal Stabilizer Stock Upgraded Full Expert Aced Stock Full Expert Aced
Arcade 80 -10°/+25° ±15° N/A 7.0 __._ __._ __._ __._ 7.6 _._ _._ _._
Realistic 4.8 __._ __._ __._ __._

Ammunition

Penetration statistics
Ammunition Type of
warhead 		Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
10 m 100 m 500 m 1,000 m 1,500 m 2,000 m
sgr m/22-38 HE 9 9 9 9 9 9
slpgr m/39 APHE 51 49 43 36 30 25
slpprj m/40 AP 69 67 60 52 45 39
slpprj m/40B APBC 68 66 58 50 43 37
Shell details
Ammunition Type of
warhead 		Velocity
(m/s) 		Projectile
Mass (kg) 		Fuse delay
(m) 		Fuse sensitivity
(mm) 		Explosive Mass
(TNT equivalent) (g) 		Ricochet
0% 50% 100%
sgr m/22-38 HE 496 6.6 0.4 0.5 550 79° 80° 81°
slpgr m/39 APHE 496 6.5 1.2 9.0 260 47° 60° 65°
slpprj m/40 AP 501 6.6 N/A N/A N/A 47° 60° 65°
slpprj m/40B APBC 505 6.3 N/A N/A N/A 48° 63° 71°
Smoke shell characteristics
Ammunition Velocity
(m/s) 		Projectile
Mass (kg) 		Screen radius
(m) 		Screen deploy time
(s) 		Screen hold time
(s) 		Explosive Mass
(TNT equivalent) (g)
rökgr m/22 496 6.6 13 5 20 8

Ammo racks

Full
ammo 		1st
rack empty 		2nd
rack empty 		3rd
rack empty 		4th
rack empty 		5th
rack empty 		6th
rack empty 		Visual
discrepancy
80 __ (+__) __ (+__) __ (+__) __ (+__) __ (+__) __ (+__) __

Optics

Sav m/43 (1944) Optics
Default magnification Maximum magnification
Main Gun optics X1.8 X3.5
Comparable optics ___

Usage in battles

The Sav m/43 is a more forgiving alternative to the Ikv 72. Like the Ikv 72, it performs best in hull down positions, as it can use the depression to present a steeper angle on the frontal armour to increase its effective thickness. It is somewhat less vulnerable than the Ikv 72, though it is still very weakly armoured from the sides, top, and rear, and must be played accordingly. It is also rather less flexible than the Ikv 72 due to its poorer mobility.

While the gun is quite adequate against most enemies, it becomes obsolete in uptiers, where tanks with good armour such as the Medium Tank M3 and Matilda can be encountered. The armour on the Sav m/43 also becomes inadequate quite quickly in uptiers.

Modules

Tier Mobility Protection Firepower
I Tracks Parts Horizontal Drive
II Suspension Brake System FPE Adjustment of Fire rökgr m/22
III Filters Crew Replenishment Elevation Mechanism slpgr m/39
IV Transmission Engine slpprj m/40B

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Decent frontal armour
  • Lethal APHE round
  • Wide gun traverse arc and good gun depression

Cons:

  • Low penetration for a 75 mm gun
  • Very thin side, rear, and roof armour
  • Mediocre mobility and poor reverse speed

History

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Media

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See also

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External links

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  • other literature.


Sweden tank destroyers
Strv m/41 derivatives  Spj fm/43-44 · Sav m/43 (1944) · Sav m/43 (1946) · Pvkv II · Pvkv III
Ikv 72/103  Ikv 72 · Ikv 103
Pvkv m/43  Pvkv m/43 (1946) · Pvkv m/43 (1963)
ATGM  UDES 33 · Pbv 302 (BILL) · Pvrbv 551
Other  SAV 20.12.48 · Bkan 1C
Norway  VIDAR

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