CA Lorraine

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CA Lorraine

▄M36B2

ELC bis

CA Lorraine

▄M36B2

ELC bis

France

IV Rank

Battle rating:

AB	RB	SB
5.7	6.0	6.0

Class:

Tank destroyer

Research:54 000

Purchase:185 000

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Description

The Canon d'assaut Lorraine de 100 mm (100 mm Lorraine assault gun), or abbreviated CA Lorraine, is a Rank IV French tank destroyer with a battle rating of 5.7 (AB) and 6.0 (RB/SB). It was introduced in Update 1.75 "La Résistance". It presents a very classic TD design: Casemate gun platform and powerful armament. While lacking a bit in terms of armour, it surely compensates with superior mobility.

The CA Lorraine is an intermediate between a SU-85 and a lowered Jagdpanther. It is distinguishable for having rubber road wheels instead of metal ones, two huge fans atop the engine deck (much like the German Jagdpanther), a very pointy gun mantlet pointing outwards from the casemate and quite a large, rounded commander's cupola. In some ways, it is quite similar to the fearsome AMX 50 Foch, this can scare away some cowardly foe.

Its sloped, medium thickness frontal armour will not protect you from anything bigger than SPAA shots (some may even get through in close quarters) but it is certainly sufficient for what it is designed to do: protecting from stray bullets in long range engagements. Side and top armour are also quite weak so don't expect to survive any kind of surprise coming from side or top. Still, this tank has 5 crew members, which can often save it from a (too) quick death.

If anyone thought the Lorraine 40t was a sprinter, this is even better. Being ~33% lighter, it only loses ~20% of its HP. What does all these numbers means? The CA Lorraine is fast. Not only in forward motion is it fast, it can retreat at a decent, constant, -16 km/h and it has ability to neutral steer, these enable fast reaction to quickly changing battlefield odds such as flanking maneuvers or enemy breakthrough. An experimented player can take clear advantage over its foes by achieving good placement and this tank is the perfect tool for this task.

This gun platform uses the usual French rank IV 100 mm SA47 L/58 cannon with a twist: it has no autoloader mechanism, hence making reload time twice as long. Keep that in mind as your foes get closer and closer to you: these precious 15 seconds of reload time are the perfect time to intent a frontal attack, even more so since you don't even have automatic firepower of any form.

General info

Survivability and armour

Armour type:

• Rolled homogeneous armour (Casemate hull)
• Cast homogeneous armour (Gun mantlet, Driver's hatch)

Armour	Front	Sides	Rear	Roof
Hull	50 mm (55°) Front glacis 35 mm (60°) Lower glacis 60-150 (0-88°) + 35-60 mm (2-88°) Gun mantlet	30 mm (15°) Front 30 mm Bottom	25 mm (23°) Top 25 mm (55°) Bottom	20 mm 8 mm Engine grille
Armour	Sides	Roof
Cupola	50 mm	20 mm

Notes:

• Suspension wheels and tracks are 20 mm thick.

Mobility

Mobility characteristic
Weight (tons)	Add-on Armour weight (tons)	Max speed (km/h)
25.0	N/A	68 (AB)
		62 (RB/SB)
Engine power (horsepower)
Mode	Stock	Upgraded
Arcade	973	_,___
Realistic/Simulator	606	685
Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
Mode	Stock	Upgraded
Arcade	11.25	__.__
Realistic/Simulator	7.00	7.92

Armaments

Main armament

100 mm SA47 L/58
Capacity			Vertical guidance	Horizontal guidance	Stabilizer
40			-6°/+16°	±9°	N/A
Turret rotation speed (°/s)
Mode	Stock	Upgraded	Prior + Full crew	Prior + Expert qualif.	Prior + Ace qualif.
Arcade	5.3	__.__	__.__	__.__	__.__
Realistic	3.6	__.__	__.__	__.__	__.__
Reloading rate (seconds)
Stock	Prior + Full crew	Prior + Expert qualif.	Prior + Ace qualif.
15.6	__.__	__.__	__.__

Ammunition

Penetration statistics
Ammunition	Type of warhead	Penetration in mm @ 90°
		10m	100m	500m	1000m	1500m	2000m
100 mm Obus de rupture	APCBC	295	293	279	263	248	233
100 mm Obus explosif	HE	22	22	21	20	20	20

Shell details
Ammunition	Type of warhead	Velocity in m/s	Projectile Mass in kg	Fuse delay in m:	Fuse sensitivity in mm:	Explosive Mass in g (TNT equivalent):	Normalization At 30° from horizontal:	Ricochet:
								0%	50%	100%
100 mm Obus de rupture	APCBC	1,060	15	N/A	N/A	N/A	°	48°	63°	71°
100 mm Obus explosif	HE	1,000	15	0.1	0.5	1,400	+0°	79°	80°	81°

Ammo racks

Ammo racks of the CA Lorraine.

Full ammo	1st rack empty	2nd rack empty	3rd rack empty	4th rack empty	Visual discrepancy
40	31 (+9)	21 (+19)	11 (+29)	1 (+39)	no

Usage in the battles

This tank sits with confidence at BR 6.0 as a regular tank destroyer. There is nothing very special to it but it performs good in most situations. Use your good mobility to take a competitive spot and reposition every now and then : once you get spotted, it is already too late. Hopefully, this tank's awesome mobility and neutral steering will make your day easier.

Use this tank as a classic tank destroyer while enjoying its great mobility. Any good move with a casemate TD is a good move with this tank.

Pros and cons

Pros:

• Good firepower.
• Very good maneuverability.
• Fast.
• Very good reverse speed.
• Low profile.
• Wide tracks.
• Neutral steering.
• Uses the same gun as AMX-50-100 and Lorraine 40t.
• Strong gun mantlet may bounce shots.
• Awesome power ratio: 38+ HP/ton.

Cons:

• Thin armour (50 mm) sloped at 55°.
• Very thin side and top armour: not a frontline tank.
• Weak LFP at 35mm (60°).
• Reload rate is not impressive.
• Poor gun depression (-6).
• Lacks -HE filler in AP shots.
• No coaxial MG.
• Low gun placement.
• Only two shell types.
• Somewhat weak optic zoom.
• Large hull.
• Large ammo racks on both sides of the hull.

History

The CA Lorraine was developed and tested in the late 1940s, but never saw active service.

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France tank destroyers
Lorraine 40t derivatives	CA Lorraine · Lorraine 155 Mle.50
ATGM	MEPHISTO · AMX-10M
Other	AMR.35 ZT3 · Lorraine 37L · SAu 40 · ARL-44 · ELC bis · AMX-50 Foch · AuF1
USA	▄M10 GMC · ▄M36B2