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== Description ==
 
== Description ==
 
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' (75 mm Self-Propelled Gun SAu 40) is a rank {{Specs|rank}} French tank destroyer {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.75 "La Résistance"]]. It distinguishes itself by its very tall cupola and thick gun barrel. This tank is equipped with APHE rounds, a rare feature in the French tech tree.
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' was developed by SOMUA between 1935 and 1937 alongside the S.35 tank for French cavalry. It featured a redesigned hull to house a 75 mm cannon and a new commander's cupola with a machine gun. The prototype was finished in 1939 after delays in acquiring the cannon. It is uncertain if more vehicles were produced or if it saw combat action. Doctrinally, the vehicle was relegated to a support role, intended to provide cover for heavier tanks like the Char B1.
  
As it was developed from the French [[S.35]], this tank shares many of its characteristics such as the ~40 mm thick cast hull bolted onto the chassis, which is barely a widened version of its original. The track system is mostly the same as on the [[S.35]], with 25 mm plates covering the roller wheels. As for the hull, it's a widened variant of the [[S.35]]'s hull with two 8 mm grilles over the engine compartment and doors on the side.
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It was introduced in [[Update 1.75 "La Résistance"]]. It distinguishes itself by its very tall cupola and thick gun barrel. This tank is equipped with APHE rounds, a rare feature in the French tech tree. As it was developed from the French [[S.35]], this tank shares many of its characteristics such as the ~40 mm thick cast hull bolted onto the chassis, which is barely a widened version of its original. The track system is mostly the same as on the [[S.35]], with 25 mm plates covering the roller wheels. As for the hull, it's a widened variant of the [[S.35]]'s hull with two 8 mm grilles over the engine compartment and doors on the side. The tank features an APHE shell, this increases the chances of one-shots at enemy tanks.  In terms of mobility, it is a pretty slow tank, and it's not very survivable either, it has a very large profile and the commander's cupola is a big weak point that can be exploited by other vehicles.
  
 
== General info ==
 
== General info ==
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{{main|APX (75 mm)}}
 
{{main|APX (75 mm)}}
  
As any casemate SPG, this tank's main feature is its main gun, it is also one of the rare French tanks firing APHE shells. However, the cannon has an average penetration power for its BR. And the APHE round fails to explode when targeting enemies' sides, as the round has a rather high fuze sensitivity. Another concern is its slow horizontal traverse, which makes it hard to react to fast-paced combat situations. The gun placement makes this tank quite vulnerable: being low, it exposes the SAu 40 to enemy fire when popping up a hill.
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As any casemate SPG, this tank's main feature is its main gun, it is also one of the rare French tanks firing APHE shells. However, the cannon has an average penetration power for its BR. And the APHE round fails to explode when targeting enemies' sides, as the round has a rather high fuse sensitivity. Another concern is its slow horizontal traverse, which makes it hard to react to fast-paced combat situations. The gun placement makes this tank quite vulnerable: being low, it exposes the SAu 40 to enemy fire when popping up a hill.
  
 
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==== Ammunition ====
 
==== Ammunition ====
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{{:APX (75 mm)/Ammunition|Mle1910M, Mle1917}}
! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
 
|-
 
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
 
! rowspan="2" | Type of<br>warhead
 
! colspan="6" | Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
 
|-
 
! 10 m !! 100 m !! 500 m !! 1,000 m !! 1,500 m !! 2,000 m
 
|-
 
| Mle1910M || APHE || 77 || 75 || 66 || 57 || 49 || 42
 
|-
 
| Mle1917 || HE || 10 || 10 || 10 || 10 || 10 || 10
 
|-
 
|}
 
{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
 
! colspan="10" | Shell details
 
|-
 
! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
 
! rowspan="2" | Type of<br>warhead
 
! rowspan="2" | Velocity<br>(m/s)
 
! rowspan="2" | Projectile<br>Mass (kg)
 
! rowspan="2" | Fuse delay<br>(m)
 
! rowspan="2" | Fuse sensitivity<br>(mm)
 
! rowspan="2" | Explosive Mass<br>(TNT equivalent) (g)
 
! colspan="3" | Ricochet
 
|-
 
! 0% !! 50% !! 100%
 
|-
 
| Mle1910M || APHE || 570 || 6.4 || 1.2 || 14 || 90 || 47° || 60° || 65°
 
|-
 
| Mle1917 || HE || 577 || 6.13 || 0 || 0.1 || 675 || 79° || 80° || 81°
 
|-
 
|}
 
  
 
==== [[Ammo racks]] ====
 
==== [[Ammo racks]] ====
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'''Pros:'''
 
'''Pros:'''
  
* Firepower
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* 75 mm APHE shell gives it good single-shot knock-out potential
** 75 mm APHE shell with explosive filler gives it good single-shot knock-out potential.
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* Competitive reload time
** Competitive reload time
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* Strong armour on gun mantlet
** Depression and elevation angles are acceptable.
 
* Armour is quite thick on all sides.
 
* Gun mantlet armour is strong
 
  
 
'''Cons:'''
 
'''Cons:'''
  
* Commander's turret is badly designed.
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* Commander's turret is poorly armoured and a shot trap  
** Tall turret with an exposed turret base.
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* Machine gun placement makes AA use difficult
** Turret-mounted MG does not allow for shooting down planes.
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* Poor mobility due to underpowered engine
** Weak, unsloped armour makes it a shot trap
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* Slow gun traverse
** Makes it easy to spot while bringing no tactical advantage.
 
* Poor mobility
 
** Engine is underpowered
 
** Turret traverse is slow
 
** Guns traverse is even slower
 
 
* Frontal armour has many weak spots due to bad sloping
 
* Frontal armour has many weak spots due to bad sloping
* Only three crew members decrease the survivability.
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* Only three crew members decreases survivability
* Huge ammo rack near gunner makes it easy to target and cause detonation.
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* Large ammo rack near gunner makes easy target for ammo rack detonations
  
 
== History ==
 
== History ==
 
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The SAu 40 self-propelled gun was developed by the SOMUA company between 1935 and 1937 as part of the same order the French cavalry placed for the S35 tank.
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The SAu 40 self-propelled gun was developed by the SOMUA company between 1935 and 1937 as part of the same order the French cavalry placed for the S.35 tank.
  
The two tanks combined were intended to equip light mechanized divisions of the French army and support the larger "battle tanks" (chars de bataille). The vehicle inherited the S35's characteristic chassis with a redesigned front section of the hull to accommodate the 75 mm APX cannon. In addition, the rotating turret on top of the fighting compartment was redesigned to a commander's cupola and moved to the side of the vehicle, but the turret's 47 mm cannon was replaced with a single 7.5 mm machine gun.
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The two tanks combined were intended to equip light mechanized divisions of the French army and support the larger "battle tanks" (chars de bataille). The vehicle inherited the S.35's characteristic chassis with a redesigned front section of the hull to accommodate the 75 mm APX cannon. In addition, the rotating turret on top of the fighting compartment was redesigned to a commander's cupola and moved to the side of the vehicle, but the turret's 47 mm cannon was replaced with a single 7.5 mm machine gun.
  
 
The body of the SAu 40 was ready by 1937, but it couldn't be immediately completed. Because the cannon was not yet ready to be installed on the chassis, SOMUA engineers had to wait nearly 2 years before the cannon was finally made available. It wasn't until 1939 that the fully assembled prototype was completed, and orders for mass production were received in October of the same year.
 
The body of the SAu 40 was ready by 1937, but it couldn't be immediately completed. Because the cannon was not yet ready to be installed on the chassis, SOMUA engineers had to wait nearly 2 years before the cannon was finally made available. It wasn't until 1939 that the fully assembled prototype was completed, and orders for mass production were received in October of the same year.
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;Videos
 
;Videos
{{Youtube-gallery|gch68D19_C4|'''{{PAGENAME}}, French, Tier-2, Tank Destroyer''' - ''Angry Nerd Gaming''|9anvMISri-8|'''{{PAGENAME}} Tank Review''' - ''NUSensei''|uhgodizubC4|'''The Shooting Range #77''' - ''Pages of History'' section at 00:31 discusses the {{PAGENAME}}.}}
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{{Youtube-gallery|gch68D19_C4|'''SAu 40, French, Tier-2, Tank Destroyer''' - ''Angry Nerd Gaming''|uhgodizubC4|'''The Shooting Range #77''' - ''Pages of History'' section at 00:31 discusses the {{PAGENAME}}.}}
  
 
== See also ==
 
== See also ==
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;Vehicles equipped with a similar chassis
 
;Vehicles equipped with a similar chassis
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* [[S.35]]
 
* [[S.35]]
  
 
;Other vehicles of similar configuration and role
 
;Other vehicles of similar configuration and role
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* [[Sav m/43 (1944)]]
 
* [[Sav m/43 (1944)]]
  

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SAu 40
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Description

The Canon Automoteur DE 75 mm SAu 40 was developed by SOMUA between 1935 and 1937 alongside the S.35 tank for French cavalry. It featured a redesigned hull to house a 75 mm cannon and a new commander's cupola with a machine gun. The prototype was finished in 1939 after delays in acquiring the cannon. It is uncertain if more vehicles were produced or if it saw combat action. Doctrinally, the vehicle was relegated to a support role, intended to provide cover for heavier tanks like the Char B1.

It was introduced in Update 1.75 "La Résistance". It distinguishes itself by its very tall cupola and thick gun barrel. This tank is equipped with APHE rounds, a rare feature in the French tech tree. As it was developed from the French S.35, this tank shares many of its characteristics such as the ~40 mm thick cast hull bolted onto the chassis, which is barely a widened version of its original. The track system is mostly the same as on the S.35, with 25 mm plates covering the roller wheels. As for the hull, it's a widened variant of the S.35's hull with two 8 mm grilles over the engine compartment and doors on the side. The tank features an APHE shell, this increases the chances of one-shots at enemy tanks. In terms of mobility, it is a pretty slow tank, and it's not very survivable either, it has a very large profile and the commander's cupola is a big weak point that can be exploited by other vehicles.

General info

Survivability and armour

Armourfront / side / back
Hull40 / 40 / 34
Turret38 / 38 / 38
Crew3 people
Visibility99 %

As this tank is based off the S.35, it shares many of its attributes when it comes to armour. A slight angle can defeat most shots this tank will take at this BR, this is useful to know when getting into position: from a distance and not showing neither side nor front to the enemy, you should be safe. As for frontal armour, its 40 mm overall thickness is not strong enough to withstand anything bigger than AA fire. But, a thing to consider with this weird pattern is its "bouncy" behaviour, principally around the gun mantlet: complex angles may just bounce some shots, making them lose some energy before hitting the main armour, this feature is peculiarly distinctive at gun's height.

The main weakness of this tank is its very tall MG turret, which makes it quite easy to spot and destroy, as it is thinner than the main armour. Any APHE penetrating this area will knock out the tank's commander, thus disabling its only MG and some shrapnels may even damage or incapacitate the driver, disabling this tank for good. A way to avoid getting spotted too easily is buying camouflage for the front cupola area, making it look more like a bush popping out a hill than a tank's turret. Try to hide the tank's lower hull part as it is only 34 mm thick.

Armour type:

  • Cast homogeneous armour (hull, turret)
  • Rolled homogeneous armour (side skirts, engine vents, exhaust pipes)
Armour Front (Slope angle) Sides Rear Roof
Hull 40 mm (0-73°) Front glacis
34 mm (1-54°) Lower glacis
60 mm (spherical) Gun mantlet
34 mm (cylindrical) Top - Turret base
40 mm (20-46°) Top - Front
34 mm (43-63°) Top - Roof junction
34 mm (cylindrical) Top - Turret base
40 mm Top - Centre and rear
40 + 25 mm Bottom
34 mm (26°) Upper plate
34 mm (4) Centre plate
34 mm (29-33°) Lower plate
20 mm (9-15°)
8 mm (14°) Engine vents
MG turret 38 mm (15-38°) Turret front
38.5 mm (5°) + 25 mm Machine gun mantlet
38 mm (16-38°) 38 mm (23-32°) 20 mm (8-17°)
Cupola 34 mm (spherical) 34 mm

Notes:

  • Suspension wheels are 15 mm thick while tracks are 20 mm thick.
  • Turret underside is 20 mm thick.
  • Turret ring is 30 mm thick.
  • Hull underside above the tracks is 12.7 mm thick.
  • Belly armour is 12.7 mm thick.

Mobility

Speedforward / back
AB41 / 6 km/h
RB and SB37 / 5 km/h
Number of gears5 forward
1 back
Weight24.0 t
Engine power
AB363 hp
RB and SB190 hp
Power-to-weight ratio
AB15.1 hp/t
RB and SB7.9 hp/t
Game Mode Max Speed (km/h) Weight (tons) Engine power (horsepower) Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
Forward Reverse Stock Upgraded Stock Upgraded
Arcade 41 6 24 270 363 11.25 15.13
Realistic 37 5 168 190 7 7.92

While being mounted on a widened S.35 hull, the heavier SAu 40 has the same engine as its predecessor, making it quite slow and unwieldy, with a very low power-to-weight ratio. In order to fulfill the task of getting into position, one should choose their route wisely and avoid risky spots as this SPG's terrible reverse speed makes it quite bad at hasty retreats. Mobility with the SAu 40 is an issue. It is arguably what makes this tank hard to master as it does not allow for good map placement. One positive of this tank's mobility, however, is that it has a decent hull traverse because of the ability to use both tracks when turning in place.

Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference
AB298 → 368 Sl icon.png
RB332 → 410 Sl icon.png
SB400 → 494 Sl icon.png
Total cost of modifications5 960 Rp icon.png
4 500 Sl icon.png
Talisman cost410 Ge icon.png
Crew training1 800 Sl icon.png
Experts6 300 Sl icon.png
Aces75 Ge icon.png
Research Aces135 000 Rp icon.png
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
20 / 30 / 40 % Sl icon.png
106 / 106 / 106 % Rp icon.png
Modifications
Mobility Protection Firepower
Mods new tank traks.png
Tracks
Research:
400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
300 Sl icon.png
60 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank suspension.png
Suspension
Research:
330 Rp icon.png
Cost:
250 Sl icon.png
50 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank break.png
Brake System
Research:
330 Rp icon.png
Cost:
250 Sl icon.png
50 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank filter.png
Filters
Research:
500 Rp icon.png
Cost:
380 Sl icon.png
75 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank transmission.png
Transmission
Research:
970 Rp icon.png
Cost:
730 Sl icon.png
145 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank engine.png
Engine
Research:
970 Rp icon.png
Cost:
730 Sl icon.png
145 Ge icon.png
Mods tank tool kit.png
Improved Parts
Research:
400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
300 Sl icon.png
60 Ge icon.png
Mods extinguisher.png
Improved FPE
Research:
330 Rp icon.png
Cost:
250 Sl icon.png
50 Ge icon.png
Mods tank reinforcement fr.png
Crew Replenishment
Research:
500 Rp icon.png
Cost:
380 Sl icon.png
75 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank horizontal aiming.png
Horizontal Drive
Research:
400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
300 Sl icon.png
60 Ge icon.png
Mods tank cannon.png
Adjustment of Fire
Research:
330 Rp icon.png
Cost:
250 Sl icon.png
50 Ge icon.png
Mods new tank vertical aiming.png
Elevation Mechanism
Research:
500 Rp icon.png
Cost:
380 Sl icon.png
75 Ge icon.png

Armaments

Main armament

Ammunition101 rounds
Reloadbasic crew → aces
7.2 → 5.5 s
Vertical guidance-10° / 30°
Horizontal guidance-7° / 7°
Main article: APX (75 mm)

As any casemate SPG, this tank's main feature is its main gun, it is also one of the rare French tanks firing APHE shells. However, the cannon has an average penetration power for its BR. And the APHE round fails to explode when targeting enemies' sides, as the round has a rather high fuse sensitivity. Another concern is its slow horizontal traverse, which makes it hard to react to fast-paced combat situations. The gun placement makes this tank quite vulnerable: being low, it exposes the SAu 40 to enemy fire when popping up a hill.

75 mm APX Turret rotation speed (°/s) Reloading rate (seconds)
Mode Capacity Vertical Horizontal Stabilizer Stock Upgraded Full Expert Aced Stock Full Expert Aced
Arcade 101 -10°/+30° ±7° N/A 5.3 7.3 8.9 9.8 10.4 7.15 6.33 5.83 5.50
Realistic 3.6 4.2 5.1 5.6 6.0

Ammunition

Penetration statistics
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
10 m 100 m 500 m 1,000 m 1,500 m 2,000 m
Mle1910M APHE 77 75 66 57 49 42
Mle1917 HE 10 10 10 10 10 10
Shell details
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Velocity
(m/s)
Projectile
mass (kg)
Fuse delay
(m)
Fuse sensitivity
(mm)
Explosive mass
(TNT equivalent) (g)
Ricochet
0% 50% 100%
Mle1910M APHE 570 6.4 1.2 14 90 47° 60° 65°
Mle1917 HE 577 6.13 0 0.1 675 79° 80° 81°

Ammo racks

Ammo racks of the SAu 40
Full
ammo
1st
rack empty
2nd
rack empty
3rd
rack empty
4th
rack empty
5th
rack empty
Visual
discrepancy
101 84 (+17) 66 (+35) 42 (+59) 18 (+83) (+100) No

Notes:

  • As they are modeled by sets of 3 or 4, shells disappear from the rack only after you've fired all shells in the set.
  • Flank racks empty: 18 (+83) shells.

Machine guns

Ammunition3 300 rounds
Belt capacity150 rounds
Reloadbasic crew → aces
6.5 → 5.0 s
Fire rate551 shots/min
Main article: MAC 31 (7.5 mm)
7.5 mm MAC 31
Mount Capacity (Belt) Fire rate Vertical Horizontal
MG turret 3,300 (150) 551 -9°/+20° ±180°

The small calibre of the MAC 31 machine gun makes it largely ineffective against all armoured vehicles but the ones with an open compartment. It still can be used to ping targets as a rangefinding help or to mow down minor obstacles blocking your line of sight. The turret is slow, which also negates the possibility of tracking low-flying aircraft with it.

Usage in battles

The SAu 40 behaves as a classical casemate SPG as it should provide its teammates with superior firepower from medium to far distance, behind the frontlines where it will be harder to flank. As this is its purposed role, this tank has some issues accomplishing it. The first being its relatively low penetration and shell velocity, which makes long range engagements (>750 m)a bit hard to manage. The second being bad mobility, which complicates the task of positioning.

Act as a classical SPG while keeping in mind your slow pace. There is nothing very much interesting nor special you can do with this tank.

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • 75 mm APHE shell gives it good single-shot knock-out potential
  • Competitive reload time
  • Strong armour on gun mantlet

Cons:

  • Commander's turret is poorly armoured and a shot trap
  • Machine gun placement makes AA use difficult
  • Poor mobility due to underpowered engine
  • Slow gun traverse
  • Frontal armour has many weak spots due to bad sloping
  • Only three crew members decreases survivability
  • Large ammo rack near gunner makes easy target for ammo rack detonations

History

The SAu 40 self-propelled gun was developed by the SOMUA company between 1935 and 1937 as part of the same order the French cavalry placed for the S.35 tank.

The two tanks combined were intended to equip light mechanized divisions of the French army and support the larger "battle tanks" (chars de bataille). The vehicle inherited the S.35's characteristic chassis with a redesigned front section of the hull to accommodate the 75 mm APX cannon. In addition, the rotating turret on top of the fighting compartment was redesigned to a commander's cupola and moved to the side of the vehicle, but the turret's 47 mm cannon was replaced with a single 7.5 mm machine gun.

The body of the SAu 40 was ready by 1937, but it couldn't be immediately completed. Because the cannon was not yet ready to be installed on the chassis, SOMUA engineers had to wait nearly 2 years before the cannon was finally made available. It wasn't until 1939 that the fully assembled prototype was completed, and orders for mass production were received in October of the same year.

Whether or not any additional vehicles other than the prototype were built or if the vehicle took part in active fighting is unknown.

-From Devblog

Media

Skins
Videos

See also

Vehicles equipped with a similar chassis
Other vehicles of similar configuration and role

External links


Société d'Outillage Mécanique et d'Usinage d'Artillerie (SOMUA)
Tanks 
Medium tanks  S.35
Heavy tanks  Somua SM
Tank destroyers  SAu 40

France tank destroyers
Lorraine 40t derivatives  CA Lorraine · Lorraine 155 Mle.50
ATGM  MEPHISTO · AMX-10M
Other  AMR.35 ZT3 · Lorraine 37L · SAu 40 · ARL-44 · ELC bis · AMX-50 Foch · AuF1
USA  ▄M10 GMC · ▄M36B2