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== Description ==
 
== Description ==
 
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During WWII, France armoured forces were decimated, suffering heavy losses against German units and especially against their tanks. One of the attempts made to overcome this issue was the conversion of a Lorraine 37L tractor into a tank destroyer, fitted with a 47 mm SA37 anti-tank gun. Even though construction of the prototype was finished quickly, by the time it was ready for production France had already capitulated.
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} French tank destroyer {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "New Power"]].
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It was introduced in [[Update "New Power"]]. Considering the characteristics of this vehicle, mobility of a tractor and no armour at all, the Lorraine 37L is best used in sniping positions, behind hills or bushes. It does have a small size, so in hidden positions it is hard to observe, especially when surrounded by foliage and vegetation. The tank features an SA37 anti-tank gun, with very good penetration values for its BR, and as such, this tank should be played passively, it is a good anti-tank complement for any French rank I line-up.
  
 
== General info ==
 
== General info ==
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
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'''Armour type:'''
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* Rolled homogeneous armour (hull, gun shield)
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* Cast homogeneous armour (transmission carter, gun mount base)
  
 
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| Hull || 9 mm (32-33°) ''Upper plate'' <br> 6 mm (74-75°) ''Upper Glacis'' <br> 9 mm (cylindrical) ''Transmission carter'' || 6 mm (35°) ''Top - Engine compartment'' <br> 6 mm ''Top - Gun platform'' <br> 6 mm ''Bottom'' || 6 mm ''Gun platform'' <br> 6 mm (19°) ''Lower glacis'' || 6 mm (13-14°) ''Driver compartment'' <br> 4 mm ''Engine Compartment''
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| Gun mount || 5 mm ''Gun mount base - Bottom''  <br> 13 mm ''Gun mount base - Top''  <br> 7 mm ''Gun Shield'' || colspan="3" style="text-align:center" | N/A
 
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* Suspension wheels and bogies are 10 mm thick while tracks are 15 mm thick.
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* The gun breech is 150 mm thick.
  
 
=== Mobility ===
 
=== Mobility ===
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=== Modifications and economy ===
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== Armaments ==
 
== Armaments ==
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=== Main armament ===
 
=== Main armament ===
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{{main|SA37 (47 mm)}}
 
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* Shells are modeled individually and disappear after having been shot or loaded.
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* It is recommended to go into battle with a full rack as the ammo capacity is already limited.
  
 
== Usage in battles ==
 
== Usage in battles ==
 
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At the start of the match, use your good mobility to get to a location overlooking enemy movement routes or a sniping spot to engage advancing enemy vehicles. Make sure to change your position every few shots to prevent enemies from tracking you down and targeting you with either artillery strikes or close air support attacks. Even light machine gun fire is a big threat as most of your crew members sit in the open: planes are very dangerous with the {{PAGENAME}} having no anti-aircraft armament to counter them. Therefore, it is best to remain hidden or behind cover.
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=== Pros and cons ===
 
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* Very good penetration for a 47 mm at this battle rating.
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* Fast firing cannon.
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* Very good penetration for a 47 mm at this rank
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* Very good gun depression and good traverse arc.
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* Excellent post-penetration damage even without HE filler, much improved over the 47 mm SA35 common to other French tanks
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* Fast firing cannon
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* The projectile does not have any tracer component in its rounds; enemy players cannot deduce your position from the round's trajectory
  
 
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* 3 crew members out of 4  are located in the back of the vehicle very close to each other and with almost no protection, so artillery and incoming fire from the sides and back are especially dangerous.
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* As you don't have tracer in your shell, it is difficult to see its trajectory and correct your aim accordingly. That's why it is difficult to hit reliably at mid and long ranges.
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* The side and rear of the vehicle have very little armour, leaving three of the four crew members with almost no protection from artillery and incoming fire
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* Mid and long-range shots difficult to correct without any tracer component in the round to visually track the round's trajectory
  
 
== History ==
 
== History ==
 
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=== [[wt:en/news/6899-development-lorraine-37l-antichar-anti-tank-tractor-en|Devblog]] ===
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During the German invasion of France in mid 1940, the French army suffered heavy losses, especially when it came to its armoured vehicles. As a result, several urgent attempts were made to create improvised combat vehicles from resources available to French engineers in order to bolster the strength of the army, which faced a seemingly unstoppable invasion.
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One of these projects was the conversion of the Lorraine 37L tractor into a tank destroyer by fitting it with a 47 mm SA37 anti-tank gun. The conversion took little time, with the prototype being ready in just a few weeks, however by the time construction was completed, France had already fallen. As a result, the prototype never saw combat action and was instead captured by German forces following the occupation.
  
 
== Media ==
 
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{{Youtube-gallery|UWCc_wTVuqU|'''Spade Review. {{PAGENAME}}. A New meme machine''' - ''Joseph 2000''}}
  
 
== See also ==
 
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{{France tank destroyers}}
 
{{France tank destroyers}}

Latest revision as of 10:45, 30 March 2024

Rank 7 USA
F-5C Pack
Lorraine 37L
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GarageImage Lorraine 37L.jpg
ArtImage Lorraine 37L.png
Lorraine 37L
France flag.png France
I Rank
Battle rating:
AB RB SB
1.3 1.3 1.3
Class:
Research:4 000 Specs-Card-Exp.png
Purchase:2 100 Specs-Card-Lion.png
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Description

During WWII, France armoured forces were decimated, suffering heavy losses against German units and especially against their tanks. One of the attempts made to overcome this issue was the conversion of a Lorraine 37L tractor into a tank destroyer, fitted with a 47 mm SA37 anti-tank gun. Even though construction of the prototype was finished quickly, by the time it was ready for production France had already capitulated.

It was introduced in Update "New Power". Considering the characteristics of this vehicle, mobility of a tractor and no armour at all, the Lorraine 37L is best used in sniping positions, behind hills or bushes. It does have a small size, so in hidden positions it is hard to observe, especially when surrounded by foliage and vegetation. The tank features an SA37 anti-tank gun, with very good penetration values for its BR, and as such, this tank should be played passively, it is a good anti-tank complement for any French rank I line-up.

General info

Survivability and armour

Armourfront / side / back
Hull9 / 6 / 6
Turret7 / 0 / 0
Crew4 people
Visibility72 %

Armour type:

  • Rolled homogeneous armour (hull, gun shield)
  • Cast homogeneous armour (transmission carter, gun mount base)
Armour Front (Slope angle) Sides Rear Roof
Hull 9 mm (32-33°) Upper plate
6 mm (74-75°) Upper Glacis
9 mm (cylindrical) Transmission carter 		6 mm (35°) Top - Engine compartment
6 mm Top - Gun platform
6 mm Bottom 		6 mm Gun platform
6 mm (19°) Lower glacis 		6 mm (13-14°) Driver compartment
4 mm Engine Compartment
Gun mount 5 mm Gun mount base - Bottom
13 mm Gun mount base - Top
7 mm Gun Shield 		N/A

Notes:

  • Suspension wheels and bogies are 10 mm thick while tracks are 15 mm thick.
  • The gun breech is 150 mm thick.

Mobility

Speedforward / back
AB38 / 8 km/h
RB and SB35 / 7 km/h
Number of gears5 forward
1 back
Weight7.2 t
Engine power
AB134 hp
RB and SB70 hp
Power-to-weight ratio
AB18.6 hp/t
RB and SB9.7 hp/t
Game Mode Max Speed (km/h) Weight (tons) Engine power (horsepower) Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
Forward Reverse Stock Upgraded Stock Upgraded
Arcade 38 8 7.2 99 134 13.75 18.61
Realistic 35 7 62 70 8.61 9.72

Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference
AB200 → 247 Sl icon.png
RB219 → 270 Sl icon.png
SB253 → 312 Sl icon.png
Total cost of modifications4 450 Rp icon.png
2 680 Sl icon.png
Talisman cost300 Ge icon.png
Crew training600 Sl icon.png
Experts2 100 Sl icon.png
Aces45 Ge icon.png
Research Aces110 000 Rp icon.png
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
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Modifications
Mobility Protection Firepower
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Tracks
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Suspension
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Brake System
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Filters
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Transmission
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Engine
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Improved Parts
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Improved FPE
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Crew Replenishment
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Horizontal Drive
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Adjustment of Fire
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Elevation Mechanism
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Armaments

Main armament

47 mm SA37 cannon
Ammunition22 rounds
Reloadbasic crew → aces
3.9 → 3.0 s
Vertical guidance-13° / 16°
Horizontal guidance-34° / 34°
Main article: SA37 (47 mm)
47 mm SA37 Turret rotation speed (°/s) Reloading rate (seconds)
Mode Capacity Vertical Horizontal Stabilizer Stock Upgraded Full Expert Aced Stock Full Expert Aced
Arcade 22 -13°/+16° ±34° N/A 10.6 14.6 17.8 19.6 20.9 3.90 3.45 3.18 3.00
Realistic 7.1 8.4 10.2 11.3 12.0

Ammunition

The armour-piercing capped round Mle 1936 has a high penetration power for the battle rating but lacks the post-penetration damage with the absence of an explosive filler. The lack of base tracer also makes it difficult to correct your targeting at long distance as you can't properly visualize the trajectory of your shell.

Penetration statistics
Ammunition Type of
warhead 		Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
10 m 100 m 500 m 1,000 m 1,500 m 2,000 m
Mle1936 APCBC 105 102 89 75 63 53
Shell details
Ammunition Type of
warhead 		Velocity
(m/s) 		Projectile
mass (kg) 		Fuse delay Fuse sensitivity
(mm) 		Explosive mass
(TNT equivalent) (g) 		Ricochet
0% 50% 100%
Mle1936 APCBC 855 1.73 - - - 48° 63° 71°

Ammo racks

Ammo racks of the Lorraine 37L
Full
ammo 		1st
rack empty 		Visual
discrepancy
22 1 (+21) No

Notes:

  • Shells are modeled individually and disappear after having been shot or loaded.
  • It is recommended to go into battle with a full rack as the ammo capacity is already limited.

Usage in battles

Combat tactics

Virtually unarmoured, the Lorraine 37L is better used to snipe or ambush the enemy. Its gun has a good rate of fire, but many other guns at this rank will reload as fast as yours. The gun is extremely powerful for its rank, which means you will penetrate almost any target, so there is no need to throw yourself in front of the enemy: position yourself at a safe distance from the frontline action. An open-backed SPG should never be flanked: put at least 500 m between you and your target and watch your sides for sneaking foes. While the gun can be sufficient to destroy most enemies in a single shot, more heavily armoured enemies will need several well-aimed shots to be fully disabled. The gun's ballistics are somewhat tricky without a base tracer and the ammo count is limited, so aim carefully and accurately. At the start of the match, use your good mobility to get to a location overlooking enemy movement routes or a sniping spot to engage advancing enemy vehicles. Make sure to change your position every few shots to prevent enemies from tracking you down and targeting you with either artillery strikes or close air support attacks. Even light machine gun fire is a big threat as most of your crew members sit in the open: planes are very dangerous with the Lorraine 37L having no anti-aircraft armament to counter them. Therefore, it is best to remain hidden or behind cover.

Notable enemies

With its thin armour, any enemy can knock out the Lorraine 37L with prolonged light MG fire. But some stand out by the danger they pose:

  • Tanks and tank destroyers firing HEAT shells: LVT(A)(4), M8 Scott, Pz.IV C, Nb.Fz., 15cm sIG 33 B Sfl, Sd.Kfz. 234/3, Ho-Ro, Chi-Ha Short Gun, M8 HMC (China) and Spj fm/43-44.
  • Fast-firing light tanks which can shower you continuously with bullets: M2A2, Pz.II C, Pz.II C (DAK), Pz.II F, Sd.Kfz.234/1, T-60, AB 41, L3/33 CC, L6/40, AMD.35 and AMR.35 ZT3.
  • Fast-firing SPAA vehicles which can shower you continuously with bullets: M13 MGMC, Flakpanzer I, GAZ-AAA (DShK), GAZ-AAA (4M), Light AA Mk I, Type 94, Ta-Se, AS42, P7T AA and Pvlvv fm/42.
How to defeat a Lorraine 37L
  • Do not attack the tank destroyer frontally as it will most likely hit you first.
  • If alone, flanking the Lorraine 37L undetected and immobilizing it with your first shot remains your best chance to destroy it. But it is difficult because it will position very far from the frontline.
  • Initiate a pincer move on it together with a teammate. As a turretless tank destroyer with weak armour, this will force it to retreat and relocate or face the risk of being destroyed.
  • If you have no other option than to attack the Lorraine 37L frontally, blind it with smoke before closing the gap or force it out of position with indirect fire (artillery strikes).

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Very good penetration for a 47 mm at this rank
  • Excellent post-penetration damage even without HE filler, much improved over the 47 mm SA35 common to other French tanks
  • Fast firing cannon
  • Very good gun depression and traverse arc
  • The projectile does not have any tracer component in its rounds; enemy players cannot deduce your position from the round's trajectory

Cons:

  • The side and rear of the vehicle have very little armour, leaving three of the four crew members with almost no protection from artillery and incoming fire
  • Mid and long-range shots difficult to correct without any tracer component in the round to visually track the round's trajectory

History

Devblog

During the German invasion of France in mid 1940, the French army suffered heavy losses, especially when it came to its armoured vehicles. As a result, several urgent attempts were made to create improvised combat vehicles from resources available to French engineers in order to bolster the strength of the army, which faced a seemingly unstoppable invasion.

One of these projects was the conversion of the Lorraine 37L tractor into a tank destroyer by fitting it with a 47 mm SA37 anti-tank gun. The conversion took little time, with the prototype being ready in just a few weeks, however by the time construction was completed, France had already fallen. As a result, the prototype never saw combat action and was instead captured by German forces following the occupation.

Media

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Images
  • Lorraine 37L Devblog Images
  • Lorrainne 37L WTWallpaper 001.jpg
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Videos
Spade Review. Lorraine 37L. A New meme machine - Joseph 2000

See also

Other vehicles of similar configuration and role

External links


Lorraine
Tanks 
Medium tanks  Lorraine 40t
Tank destroyers  Lorraine 37L · CA Lorraine · Lorraine 155 Mle.50

France tank destroyers
Lorraine 40t derivatives  CA Lorraine · Lorraine 155 Mle.50
ATGM  MEPHISTO · AMX-10M
Other  AMR.35 ZT3 · Lorraine 37L · SAu 40 · ARL-44 · ELC bis · AMX-50 Foch · AuF1
USA  ▄M10 GMC · ▄M36B2

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