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== Description ==
 
== Description ==
 
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Italian motor gun boat {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "Starfighters"]].
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Built as MS-11, the boat was launched on January 31, 1942, and completed and commissioned on April 29, 1942. It was deployed to North Africa on September 3, 1942, where it operated alongside [[MS-15]]. Their mission was to transport a squadron of Guastatori (combat engineers) of the San Marco Regiment from Marsa Matruk to a location near the port of Alexandria. They also conducted anti-submarine surveillance and naval ambush operations with other units. Following the Armistice of Italy on September 8, 1943, MS-11 became part of the 1st Motor Torpedo Squadron stationed in Leros. However, on September 26, 1943, it suffered severe damage from a German air attack. To prevent it from sinking, the crew intentionally ran the boat aground on the beach. After World War II, MS-11 underwent modernization and conversion into a motor gunboat equipped with six 20 mm positions and renamed as MV-611 (MV stands for '''M'''oto '''V'''edetta, in english patrol boat). From 1958, it was deployed in Magdalena for cadet training until it was replaced by MS-444 in 1964. MV-611 was ultimately decommissioned on May 1, 1965.
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Introduced in [[Update "Starfighters"]], the MV-611 is a motor gunboat armed with six 20 mm Breda guns. It is capable of inflicting significant damage to enemy coastal vessels. However, it should be noted that the MV-611 is vulnerable to enemy strikes due to its CRDA 60(t) hull, which is not particularly armoured. Nevertheless, the boat offers good speed and manoeuvrability. The best strategy for operating these boats is to flank the enemy and avoid head-on engagements.
  
 
== General info ==
 
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With a crew of just 22 people and absolutely no armour, the MV-611 will not be able to survive much, if anything. As the battle rating of the ship is high enough to face reserve destroyers, this can become a huge problem, as they can easily knock you out.
  
 
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With a top speed of 61 km/h (Realistic battles) or 82 km/h (Arcade battles), it certainly isn't the slowest ship around. You can keep pace with quite a few torpedo boats and leave sub-chasers and other patrol craft in the dust. Rudder shift time is quite good and it can turn easily. In terms of manoeuvrability, it's definitely a "light gunboat".
  
 
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The MV-611 has 6 x 20 mm Breda autocannons, seen on Italian ships all the way from the reserves. They have tiny clips, a low rate of fire, and don't inflict a lot of damage. On the plus side, they reload extremely fast and their positioning allows you to use at least 3 guns on any surface or air target, depending on their direction. The fast reload time can allow you to dish out an almost unending stream of bullets downrange.
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* Universal: {{Annotation|API-T|Armour-piercing incendiary tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|HEFI-T*|High-explosive fragmentation incendiary tracer (self-destroying)}}
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== Usage in battles ==
 
== Usage in battles ==
 
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The MV-611's playstyle is incredibly dependent on the match's top battle rating - when it is top tier, it can easily shred through the small, wooden hulled boats of 1.3-1.7 with its 6 autocannons, but when uptiered to 3.3, it becomes next to useless against destroyers, anti-aircraft barges and [[PG 02]]s, as the guns lack the damage to sink them in a short enough time. Your best bet is to take out their main armaments and run away before they repair.
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Alternatively you can attempt to play defensively, though in rough seas it would be somewhat hard to keep your guns on target. However, you should always be on the lookout for heavily armed boats (e.g. the [[PT-59]]; especially in uptiers) as even a very short burst from them can mean a free ticket back to the hangar with its awful survivability. Overall, the MV-611 can be incredibly fun or incredibly stressful, depending on the match.
  
 
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* 6 x 20 mm Breda autocannons
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== History ==
 
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After the Second World War, of the initial 36 units of the 'CRDA 60t' type, 14 remained, of which 4 were destined for the USSR and 1 for France due to the 1947 Peace Treaty prohibiting Italy from owning and operating units belonging to the torpedo boat category.
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After the Reconstruction of the Italian Navy, thanks to the American and British motor torpedo boats named GIS (Galleggianti Inseguimento Siluri = Floats Pursuit Torpedoes), the "CRDA 60t" type ships were reclassified MV (Motovedetta = Patrol boat) and with this classification they were to remove all torpedoes present in the MVs but this was not done on all of them for the simple reason that Italy at that time joined NATO and because of the increased tension in the Eastern front.
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In 1952, when the peace clauses were declared null and void, the MVs were reclassified as torpedo boats and finally, in 1954, assumed the new and definitive characteristics MS 471-475 and MS 481-484.
  
 
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Latest revision as of 15:10, 7 January 2024

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This page is about the Italian motor gun boat MV-611. For other versions, see CRDA60t (Family).
MV-611
it_ms471_1a.png
GarageImage MV-611.jpg
MV-611
Italy flag.png Italy
III Rank
Battle rating:
AB RB SB
2.3 2.3 2.3
Class:
Research:36 000 Specs-Card-Exp.png
Purchase:115 000 Specs-Card-Lion.png
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Description

Built as MS-11, the boat was launched on January 31, 1942, and completed and commissioned on April 29, 1942. It was deployed to North Africa on September 3, 1942, where it operated alongside MS-15. Their mission was to transport a squadron of Guastatori (combat engineers) of the San Marco Regiment from Marsa Matruk to a location near the port of Alexandria. They also conducted anti-submarine surveillance and naval ambush operations with other units. Following the Armistice of Italy on September 8, 1943, MS-11 became part of the 1st Motor Torpedo Squadron stationed in Leros. However, on September 26, 1943, it suffered severe damage from a German air attack. To prevent it from sinking, the crew intentionally ran the boat aground on the beach. After World War II, MS-11 underwent modernization and conversion into a motor gunboat equipped with six 20 mm positions and renamed as MV-611 (MV stands for Moto Vedetta, in english patrol boat). From 1958, it was deployed in Magdalena for cadet training until it was replaced by MS-444 in 1964. MV-611 was ultimately decommissioned on May 1, 1965.

Introduced in Update "Starfighters", the MV-611 is a motor gunboat armed with six 20 mm Breda guns. It is capable of inflicting significant damage to enemy coastal vessels. However, it should be noted that the MV-611 is vulnerable to enemy strikes due to its CRDA 60(t) hull, which is not particularly armoured. Nevertheless, the boat offers good speed and manoeuvrability. The best strategy for operating these boats is to flank the enemy and avoid head-on engagements.

General info

Survivability and armour

Armourfront / side / back
Hull40 mm (wood)
Superstructure15 mm (wood)
Number of section3
Displacement63 t
Crew22 people

With a crew of just 22 people and absolutely no armour, the MV-611 will not be able to survive much, if anything. As the battle rating of the ship is high enough to face reserve destroyers, this can become a huge problem, as they can easily knock you out.

Mobility

Speedforward / back
AB82 / 31 km/h
RB61 / 23 km/h

With a top speed of 61 km/h (Realistic battles) or 82 km/h (Arcade battles), it certainly isn't the slowest ship around. You can keep pace with quite a few torpedo boats and leave sub-chasers and other patrol craft in the dust. Rudder shift time is quite good and it can turn easily. In terms of manoeuvrability, it's definitely a "light gunboat".

Mobility Characteristics
Game Mode Upgrade Status Maximum Speed (km/h) Turn Time (s) Turn Radius (m)
Forward Reverse
AB Stock ___ ___
Upgraded 82 31
RB/SB Stock ___ ___
Upgraded 61 23

Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference
AB1 331 → 1 635 Sl icon.png
RB1 808 → 2 222 Sl icon.png
Total cost of modifications35 900 Rp icon.png
77 900 Sl icon.png
Talisman cost1 200 Ge icon.png
Crew training33 000 Sl icon.png
Experts115 000 Sl icon.png
Aces590 Ge icon.png
Research Aces360 000 Rp icon.png
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
100 / 140 / 100 % Sl icon.png
148 / 148 / 148 % Rp icon.png
Modifications
Seakeeping Unsinkability Firepower
Mods new ship hull.png
Dry-Docking
Research:
2 400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
5 200 Sl icon.png
150 Ge icon.png
Mods new ship rudder.png
Rudder Replacement
Research:
2 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
4 300 Sl icon.png
125 Ge icon.png
Mods new ship screw.png
Propeller Replacement
Research:
4 500 Rp icon.png
Cost:
9 800 Sl icon.png
280 Ge icon.png
Mods new ship engine.png
Engine Maintenance
Research:
3 900 Rp icon.png
Cost:
8 500 Sl icon.png
240 Ge icon.png
Mods ship damage control crew.png
Damage Control Division
Research:
2 400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
5 200 Sl icon.png
150 Ge icon.png
Mods ship fire control crew.png
Fire Division
Research:
2 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
4 300 Sl icon.png
125 Ge icon.png
Mods engine smoke screen system.png
Smokescreen
Research:
2 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
4 300 Sl icon.png
125 Ge icon.png
Mods new ship pumps.png
New Pumps
Research:
3 900 Rp icon.png
Cost:
8 500 Sl icon.png
240 Ge icon.png
Mods tank ammo.png
20mm_it_breda_he_ammo_pack
Research:
2 400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
5 200 Sl icon.png
150 Ge icon.png
Mods tank ammo.png
20mm_it_breda_ap_ammo_pack
Research:
2 000 Rp icon.png
Cost:
4 300 Sl icon.png
125 Ge icon.png
Mods new main caliber turrets.png
Primary Armament Targeting
Research:
4 500 Rp icon.png
Cost:
9 800 Sl icon.png
280 Ge icon.png
Mods ship art support.png
Artillery Support
Research:
3 900 Rp icon.png
Cost:
8 500 Sl icon.png
240 Ge icon.png

Armament

Primary armament

6 х Turret20 mm/65 Breda anti-aircraft gun
Ammunition1500 rounds
Belt capacity12 rounds
Fire rate240 shots/min
Vertical guidance-10° / 90°
Main article: 20 mm/65 Breda (20 mm)

The MV-611 has 6 x 20 mm Breda autocannons, seen on Italian ships all the way from the reserves. They have tiny clips, a low rate of fire, and don't inflict a lot of damage. On the plus side, they reload extremely fast and their positioning allows you to use at least 3 guns on any surface or air target, depending on their direction. The fast reload time can allow you to dish out an almost unending stream of bullets downrange.

  • Universal: API-T · HEFI-T*
  • HE belt: HEFI-T* · HEFI-T* · HEFI-T* · API-T
  • AP belt: API-T · API-T · API-T · HEFI-T*

Penetration statistics
Ammunition Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
10 m 100 m 500 m 1,000 m 1,500 m 2,000 m
HEFI-T* 4 4 4 4 4 4
API-T 38 36 27 19 14 10
Shell details
Ammunition Velocity
(m/s) 		Projectile
mass (kg) 		Fuse delay
(s) 		Fuse sensitivity
(mm) 		Explosive mass
(TNT equivalent) (g) 		Ricochet
0% 50% 100%
HEFI-T* 830 0.14 0 0.1 3 79° 80° 81°
API-T 832 0.14 0.001 1 1.7 47° 60° 65°

Usage in battles

The MV-611's playstyle is incredibly dependent on the match's top battle rating - when it is top tier, it can easily shred through the small, wooden hulled boats of 1.3-1.7 with its 6 autocannons, but when uptiered to 3.3, it becomes next to useless against destroyers, anti-aircraft barges and PG 02s, as the guns lack the damage to sink them in a short enough time. Your best bet is to take out their main armaments and run away before they repair.

Alternatively you can attempt to play defensively, though in rough seas it would be somewhat hard to keep your guns on target. However, you should always be on the lookout for heavily armed boats (e.g. the PT-59; especially in uptiers) as even a very short burst from them can mean a free ticket back to the hangar with its awful survivability. Overall, the MV-611 can be incredibly fun or incredibly stressful, depending on the match.

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • 6 x 20 mm Breda autocannons
  • Decently fast
  • When downtiered, can perform exceptionally well

Cons:

  • No armour
  • Low survivability
  • Can face destroyers and is hopeless against them
  • Next to useless in uptiers

History

After the Second World War, of the initial 36 units of the 'CRDA 60t' type, 14 remained, of which 4 were destined for the USSR and 1 for France due to the 1947 Peace Treaty prohibiting Italy from owning and operating units belonging to the torpedo boat category.

After the Reconstruction of the Italian Navy, thanks to the American and British motor torpedo boats named GIS (Galleggianti Inseguimento Siluri = Floats Pursuit Torpedoes), the "CRDA 60t" type ships were reclassified MV (Motovedetta = Patrol boat) and with this classification they were to remove all torpedoes present in the MVs but this was not done on all of them for the simple reason that Italy at that time joined NATO and because of the increased tension in the Eastern front.

In 1952, when the peace clauses were declared null and void, the MVs were reclassified as torpedo boats and finally, in 1954, assumed the new and definitive characteristics MS 471-475 and MS 481-484.

Media

Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.

See also

Related development

External links

Cantieri Riuniti dell'Adriatico (C.R.D.A)
Motor Torpedo/Gun Boats 
Motosilurante CRDA 60 t Type I  MS-15 · MV-611*
Motosilurante CRDA 60 t Type II  MS-53
Motosilurante CRDA 60 t Convertibile  MS-472 · MS-473
Folgore-class  MC-490
Freccia-class  Saetta P-494
Light Cruisers 
Etna-class  RN Etna
  *MS-11 converted to a motovedette (patrol boat)

Italy boats
Motor torpedo boats  MC-490 · Freccia P-493 · MAS 555 · MAS 561 · MAS 569
  MS-15 · MS-53 · MS-472 · Stefano Turr · VAS 201 · GIS 811 · MS 444 · MC 485
Motor gun boats  MAS 441 · MS-473 · MV-611 · Alano · Sparviero
Motor torpedo gun boats  Saetta P-494
Gunboats  Albatros · Alcione

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