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== Description ==
 
== Description ==
 
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The '''7.62 mm DA''' is a Soviet aircraft machine gun. It sees use currently on one Soviet aircraft in the game, the TB-3M-17-32.
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The '''7.62 mm DA''' is a Soviet aircraft machine gun.
  
 
The DA was essentially a modified infantry DP machine gun to accommodate aircraft usage, including a much larger magazine for longer firing time. Both a single-mount and the twin-mount ''DA-2'' can be seen on the TB-3 bomber as well.
 
The DA was essentially a modified infantry DP machine gun to accommodate aircraft usage, including a much larger magazine for longer firing time. Both a single-mount and the twin-mount ''DA-2'' can be seen on the TB-3 bomber as well.
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== General info ==
 
== General info ==
 
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=== Available shells ===
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=== Available ammunition ===
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== History ==
 
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{{main|DT_(7.62_mm)#History|l1=History of the DP machine gun}}
 
{{main|DT_(7.62_mm)#History|l1=History of the DP machine gun}}
  
The '''DA''' (Дегтярёва авиационный, Degtyaryova Aviatsionny (Degtyaryov Aircraft); ДА) was a direct offshoot of the [[DT (7.62 mm)|Degtyaryov machine gun (DP)]] designed to be mounted onto aircraft. Compared to the DP machine gun, the DA had a pistol grip, a shorter butt stock, a bag underneath to capture shell casings, and a different pan magazine.<ref name="Heinz DA">Heinz 2000</ref> The pan magazine differed from the original by holding 63 rounds instead of 47, and was made less wide but taller by having the ammunition arranged in ascending three layers.<ref name="WilliamsFlyingGuns1"/>
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The '''DA''' (Дегтярёва авиационный, Degtyaryova Aviatsionny (Degtyaryov Aircraft); ДА) was a direct offshoot of the [[DT (7.62 mm)|Degtyaryov machine gun (DP)]] designed to be mounted onto aircraft. Compared to the DP machine gun, the DA had a pistol grip, a shorter butt stock, a bag underneath to capture shell casings, and a different pan magazine.<ref name="Heinz DA">Heinz 2000</ref> The pan magazine differed from the original by holding 63 rounds instead of 47, and was made less wide but taller by having the ammunition arranged in ascending three layers.<ref name="WilliamsFlyingGuns1" />
 
[[File:TB-3 Turret Crew with DA-2 Machine Gun.jpg|x300px|right|thumb|none|DA-2 machine guns mounted on the TB-3 bomber.]]
 
[[File:TB-3 Turret Crew with DA-2 Machine Gun.jpg|x300px|right|thumb|none|DA-2 machine guns mounted on the TB-3 bomber.]]
  
The DA was introduced in the late 1920s to the Soviet Union's air force.<ref name="WilliamsFlyingGuns1">Williams and Gustin 2003, pg. 27</ref><ref name="Aranov_DP">Aranov 2018</ref> Production ran until March 1930 up to 1,200 machine guns delivered.<ref name="Heinz DA"/>
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The DA was introduced in the late 1920s to the Soviet Union's air force.<ref name="WilliamsFlyingGuns1">Williams and Gustin 2003, pg. 27</ref><ref name="Aranov_DP">Aranov 2018</ref> Production ran until March 1930 up to 1,200 machine guns delivered.<ref name="Heinz DA" />
  
Some of the Soviet's first service aircraft saw the DA machine gun mounted in flexible mounts, such as the Junkers H21.<ref name="WilliamsFlyingGuns2">Williams and Gustin 2003, pg. 113</ref> Another variation of the DA machine gun, the ''DA-2'', was also developed as a twin-combination version of the DA from 1930 onwards.<ref name="Heinz DA"/> This configuration can be seen on later Soviet planes such as the [[TB-3M-17-32|TB-3]] bomber.
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Some of the Soviet's first service aircraft saw the DA machine gun mounted in flexible mounts, such as the Junkers H21.<ref name="WilliamsFlyingGuns2">Williams and Gustin 2003, pg. 113</ref> Another variation of the DA machine gun, the ''DA-2'', was also developed as a twin-combination version of the DA from 1930 onwards.<ref name="Heinz DA" /> This configuration can be seen on later Soviet planes such as the [[TB-3M-17-32|TB-3]] bomber.
  
However, the rate of fire of the DA machine gun (600 rounds per minute) was deemed unsatisfactory for its role in the Soviet air force. The magazine-fed system of the DA also means the machine gun is only useful as a defensive mount. As such in 1933, the DA machine gun basis was heavily modified into the ''DAS'' (Degtyaryov Aircraft Rapid-Fire), which only retained the gas operating system and barrel length from the DP machine gun. This machine gun had a fire rate of 1,200 RPM and could fire in a synchronized forward mount or in a defensive mount.<ref name="Aranov_DP"/>
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However, the rate of fire of the DA machine gun (600 rounds per minute) was deemed unsatisfactory for its role in the Soviet air force. The magazine-fed system of the DA also means the machine gun is only useful as a defensive mount. As such in 1933, the DA machine gun basis was heavily modified into the ''DAS'' (Degtyaryov Aircraft Rapid-Fire), which only retained the gas operating system and barrel length from the DP machine gun. This machine gun had a fire rate of 1,200 RPM and could fire in a synchronized forward mount or in a defensive mount.<ref name="Aranov_DP" />
  
However, the DA and the DAS prototype were superseded by the [[ShKAS (7.62 mm)|ShKAS]] machine gun, which had a fire rate of 1,800 RPM despite the increased weight and technical compelxity.<ref name="Aranov_DP"/>
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However, the DA and the DAS prototype were superseded by the [[ShKAS (7.62 mm)|ShKAS]] machine gun, which had a fire rate of 1,800 RPM despite the increased weight and technical compelxity.<ref name="Aranov_DP" />
  
 
== Media ==
 
== Media ==
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''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.''
  
 
== See also ==
 
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* Aranov, Evgeny. "The prewar experimental aircraft MGs of Vasily Degtyarev". ''Military Guns & Ammunition'', Mar. 2018, [https://www.quarryhs.co.uk/Degtyarev.pdf PDF link]. Accessed 30 Mar. 2021 ([https://web.archive.org/web/20210526122944/https://www.quarryhs.co.uk/Degtyarev.pdf Archive]).
 
* Aranov, Evgeny. "The prewar experimental aircraft MGs of Vasily Degtyarev". ''Military Guns & Ammunition'', Mar. 2018, [https://www.quarryhs.co.uk/Degtyarev.pdf PDF link]. Accessed 30 Mar. 2021 ([https://web.archive.org/web/20210526122944/https://www.quarryhs.co.uk/Degtyarev.pdf Archive]).
 
* Heinz, Thomas. "DA 7.62mm machine gun". ''Russian Aviation Museum'', 05 May 2000, [http://ram-home.com/ram-old/mgun-da.html Website]. Accessed 30 Mar. 2021 ([https://web.archive.org/web/20210402170714/http://ram-home.com/ram-old/mgun-da.html Archive]).
 
* Heinz, Thomas. "DA 7.62mm machine gun". ''Russian Aviation Museum'', 05 May 2000, [http://ram-home.com/ram-old/mgun-da.html Website]. Accessed 30 Mar. 2021 ([https://web.archive.org/web/20210402170714/http://ram-home.com/ram-old/mgun-da.html Archive]).

Latest revision as of 23:59, 1 November 2022

Description

The 7.62 mm DA is a Soviet aircraft machine gun.

The DA was essentially a modified infantry DP machine gun to accommodate aircraft usage, including a much larger magazine for longer firing time. Both a single-mount and the twin-mount DA-2 can be seen on the TB-3 bomber as well.

Vehicles equipped with this weapon

General info

Tell us about the tactical and technical characteristics of the cannon or machine gun.

Available ammunition

Describe the shells that are available for the weapon and their features and purpose. If it concerns autocannons or machine guns, write about different ammo belts and what is inside (which types of shells).

Comparison with analogues

Give a comparative description of cannons/machine guns that have firepower equal to this weapon.

Usage in battles

Describe the cannon/machine gun in the game - its distinctive features, tactics of usage against notable opponents. Please don't write a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but give the reader food for thought.

Pros and cons

Summarise and briefly evaluate the weaponry in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark pros and cons as a list.

Pros:

Cons:

History

The DA (Дегтярёва авиационный, Degtyaryova Aviatsionny (Degtyaryov Aircraft); ДА) was a direct offshoot of the Degtyaryov machine gun (DP) designed to be mounted onto aircraft. Compared to the DP machine gun, the DA had a pistol grip, a shorter butt stock, a bag underneath to capture shell casings, and a different pan magazine.[1] The pan magazine differed from the original by holding 63 rounds instead of 47, and was made less wide but taller by having the ammunition arranged in ascending three layers.[2]

DA-2 machine guns mounted on the TB-3 bomber.

The DA was introduced in the late 1920s to the Soviet Union's air force.[2][3] Production ran until March 1930 up to 1,200 machine guns delivered.[1]

Some of the Soviet's first service aircraft saw the DA machine gun mounted in flexible mounts, such as the Junkers H21.[4] Another variation of the DA machine gun, the DA-2, was also developed as a twin-combination version of the DA from 1930 onwards.[1] This configuration can be seen on later Soviet planes such as the TB-3 bomber.

However, the rate of fire of the DA machine gun (600 rounds per minute) was deemed unsatisfactory for its role in the Soviet air force. The magazine-fed system of the DA also means the machine gun is only useful as a defensive mount. As such in 1933, the DA machine gun basis was heavily modified into the DAS (Degtyaryov Aircraft Rapid-Fire), which only retained the gas operating system and barrel length from the DP machine gun. This machine gun had a fire rate of 1,200 RPM and could fire in a synchronized forward mount or in a defensive mount.[3]

However, the DA and the DAS prototype were superseded by the ShKAS machine gun, which had a fire rate of 1,800 RPM despite the increased weight and technical compelxity.[3]

Media

Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.

See also

Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:

  • reference to the article about the variant of the cannon/machine gun;
  • references to approximate analogues by other nations and research trees.

External links

References

Citations
  1. 1.0 1.1 1.2 Heinz 2000
  2. 2.0 2.1 Williams and Gustin 2003, pg. 27
  3. 3.0 3.1 3.2 Aranov 2018
  4. Williams and Gustin 2003, pg. 113
Bibliography
  • Aranov, Evgeny. "The prewar experimental aircraft MGs of Vasily Degtyarev". Military Guns & Ammunition, Mar. 2018, PDF link. Accessed 30 Mar. 2021 (Archive).
  • Heinz, Thomas. "DA 7.62mm machine gun". Russian Aviation Museum, 05 May 2000, Website. Accessed 30 Mar. 2021 (Archive).
  • Williams, Anthony G; Gustin, Emmanuel. Flying Guns World War I - Development of Aircraft Guns, Ammunition and Installations 1914-1932, Airlife Publishing, 2003.


Aircraft machine guns
USA 
7.62 mm  Browning · M134 Minigun
12.7 mm  GAU-19 · M2 Browning · M3 Browning
Germany 
7.62 mm  MG3
7.92 mm  MG 15 · MG 17 · MG 81
12.7 mm  FN M3P
13 mm  MG 131
USSR 
7.62 mm  DA · GShG-7.62 · PKT · PV-1 · ShKAS
12.7 mm  A-12.7 · Berezin UB · TKB-481 · YaK-B
Britain 
7.62 mm  FN 60.30 · L8A1
7.7 mm  Browning · Lewis · Vickers E · Vickers K
Japan 
7.7 mm  Te-1 · Type 89 · Type 89 'special' · Type 92 · Type 97 navy
7.92 mm  Type 1 · Type 98
12.7 mm  Ho-103 · Ho-104
13 mm  Type 2
13.2 mm  Type 3
China 
12.7 mm  QJK99-12.7-1
Italy 
7.7 mm  Breda-SAFAT · Lewis
7.92 mm  FN Browning
12.7 mm  Breda-SAFAT · FN M3M · Scotti
France 
7.5 mm  Darne 1933 · Fabrique Nationale Mle 38 · FN Browning · MAC 1934 · MAC 1934T · Mle 33 · Mle 1923
7.62 mm  PKA
7.92 mm  FN-Browning M.36 No.3 · FN-Browning M.36 No.4
Sweden 
7.7 mm  FN-Browning M.36 No.3
8 mm  Ksp m/22 · Ksp m/22 Fh · Ksp m/22 Fv · Ksp m/22-37 R
12.7 mm  Akan m/39A · Akan m/40 · Akan m/45 · LKk/42
13.2 mm  Akan m/39 · Akan m/39A