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Pr.191M

Pr.191M

AB	RB	SB
3.0	3.0	3.0

Class:

Armored gun boat

Heavy boat

Boat

Research:48 000

Purchase:180 000

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Description

The Pr.191M is an upgraded, production version of the Pr.191. It features new M-50 engines, making the boat slightly faster, addressing a key issue with the previous version. It is also equipped with new 14.5 mm KPV heavy machine guns, replacing the older 12.7 mm model. The boat entered production in 1947, although there were initial issues with the hull's bottom, which were later resolved. A total of 188 Pr.191M units were produced between 1947 and 1954, with most being assigned to the river patrol fleet.

In the game, this boat was introduced during Update 1.79 "Project X" when the Soviet fleet was implemented into the game. It retains the same crew count and armour layout as the previous version but has a faster speed. The boat still uses the 85 mm cannon but now comes equipped with a 14.5 mm KPV heavy machine gun that can penetrate up to 40 mm of armor at close range, making it effective at destroying enemy boats and some armoured targets. It also has magnetic mines, though they are not particularly effective at sinking enemy destroyers.

General info

Survivability and armour

Armourfront / side / back

Citadel7 / 7 / 10 mm

Main fire tower30 / 30 / 30 mm

Hull6 mm (steel)

Superstructure4 mm (steel)

Number of section3

Displacement53 t

Crew14 people

Positive aspects:

The hull is made of 6 mm steel, this can stop some small calibre HE rounds and the occasional shrapnel.
The armoured sections were designed to withstand rifle-calibres, and will not protect you against 20 mm AP and larger rounds.

Negative aspects:

Armour doesn't cover 100% of any compartments, meaning any HE that pierces more than 5 mm can destroy any compartments except the superstructure
Low crew of 14
85 mm ammo isn't protected by any armour plates

Mobility

Speedforward / back

AB52 / 19 km/h

RB39 / 14 km/h

Write about the ship's mobility. Evaluate its power and manoeuvrability, rudder rerouting speed, stopping speed at full tilt, with its maximum forward and reverse speed.

Mobility Characteristics
Game Mode	Upgrade Status	Maximum Speed (km/h)		Turn Time (s)	Turn Radius (m)
Game Mode	Upgrade Status	Forward	Reverse	Turn Time (s)	Turn Radius (m)
AB	Stock	___	___
AB	Upgraded	52	19
RB/SB	Stock	___	___
RB/SB	Upgraded	39	14

Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference

AB1 693 → 2 090

RB2 181 → 2 693

Total cost of modifications45 300

95 400

Talisman cost1 300

Crew training52 000

Experts180 000

Aces700

Research Aces390 000

Reward for battleAB / RB / SB

100 / 150 / 100 %

154 / 154 / 154 %

Modifications

Seakeeping

Unsinkability

Firepower

Dry-Docking

Research:

2 300

Cost:

4 900

150

Rudder Replacement

Research:

2 000

Cost:

4 300

130

Propeller Replacement

Research:

3 800

Cost:

8 100

250

Engine Maintenance

Research:

4 900

Cost:

10 000

320

Damage Control Division Research: 2 300 Cost: 4 900 150
Fire Division Research: 2 000 Cost: 4 300 130	Smokescreen Research: 2 000 Cost: 4 300 130

New Pumps Research: 4 900 Cost: 10 000 320

85mm_ussr_navy_AP_ammo_pack Research: 2 300 Cost: 4 900 150	14mm_ussr_KPVT_HEI_ammo_pack Research: 2 300 Cost: 4 900 150
Auxiliary Armament Targeting Research: 2 000 Cost: 4 300 130	14mm_ussr_KPVT_API_ammo_pack Research: 2 000 Cost: 4 300 130
Primary Armament Targeting Research: 3 800 Cost: 8 100 250	Improved Rangefinder Research: 3 800 Cost: 8 100 250
Mines Research: 4 900 Cost: 10 000 320

Armament

Primary armament

Turret85 mm/54.6 ZIS-C-53 cannon

Ammunition180 rounds

Vertical guidance-8° / 77°

Main article: 85 mm/54.6 ZIS-C-53 (85 mm)

The 85 mm/54.6 ZIS-C-53 gun is one of the best guns you will ever find at this battle rating. This gun's HE is able to penetrate most if not all ships it faces, but it is recommended to keep a few APHE just in case.

Penetration statistics
Ammunition	Type of warhead	Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
Ammunition	Type of warhead	100 m	1,000 m	2,000 m	3,000 m	4,000 m	5,000 m
O-365K	HE	11	11	11	11	11	11
BR-365	APHEBC	133	112	92	76	63	52

Shell details
Ammunition	Type of warhead	Velocity (m/s)	Projectile mass (kg)	Fuse delay (m)	Fuse sensitivity (mm)	Explosive mass (TNT equivalent) (g)	Ricochet
Ammunition	Type of warhead	Velocity (m/s)	Projectile mass (kg)	Fuse delay (m)	Fuse sensitivity (mm)	Explosive mass (TNT equivalent) (g)	0%	50%	100%
O-365K	HE	785	9.54	0	1	741	79°	80°	81°
BR-365	APHEBC	792	9.2	1.2	14	164	48°	63°	71°

Secondary armament

2 х Turret2 x 14.5 mm KPV machine gun

Ammunition3000 rounds

Belt capacity50 rounds

Fire rate600 shots/min

Main article: KPV (14.5 mm)

Secondary armament consists of 2 turrets equipped with dual 14.5 mm KPVT heavy machine guns. The KPVT was designed to destroy light vehicles, and can penetrate up to 40 mm of RHA close up. This is not to be ignored, the round will go through the aircraft's armour and engines like butter, wrecking anything in its way. This also means the KPVT can deal significant damage to other PT boats.

As AA guns, these will do well at close ranges up to 2,000 m. They will have difficulty against anything further away, and aren't well suited to attacking medium and large bombers.

Universal: API-T · IAI · AP-I(c) · IAI
API-T: API-T · AP-I(c) · AP-I · IAI
IAI: IAI · IAI · IAI · API-T

Penetration statistics
Ammunition	Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
Ammunition	10 m	100 m	500 m	1,000 m	1,500 m	2,000 m
API-T	38	35	25	17	11	7
IAI	8	8	7	5	4	4
AP-I(c)	40	37	27	19	13	9
AP-I	40	39	34	29	24	20

Shell details
Ammunition	Velocity (m/s)	Projectile mass (kg)	Fuse delay (m)	Fuse sensitivity (mm)	Explosive mass (TNT equivalent) (g)	Ricochet
Ammunition	Velocity (m/s)	Projectile mass (kg)	Fuse delay (m)	Fuse sensitivity (mm)	Explosive mass (TNT equivalent) (g)	0%	50%	100%
API-T	1,000	0.06	-	-	-	47°	56°	65°
IAI	1,000	0.06	0	0.1	1.5	47°	56°	65°
AP-I(c)	1,000	0.06	-	-	-	47°	56°	65°
AP-I	1,000	0.06	-	-	-	47°	56°	65°

Additional armament

Setup 112 x MIRAB magnetic ground mine

Main article: MIRAB mine

The ship comes with 12 MIRAB mines. These mines are rather small, and should be used mostly against corvettes and smaller vessel. A destroyer will survive a hit without issue, and anything hitting a torpedo bulge won't deal any damage. These are best used in small capture points against other PT boats.

Usage in battles

Describe the technique of using this ship, the characteristics of her use in a team and tips on strategy. Abstain from writing an entire guide – don't try to provide a single point of view, but give the reader food for thought. Talk about the most dangerous opponents for this vehicle and provide recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of playing with this vehicle in various modes (AB, RB, SB).

Pros and cons

Pros:

85 mm main gun will be useful against all types of targets up to destroyer size while 14.5 mm KPVT gun will help against close aircraft and PT boats
Armour can withstand up to 12.7 mm rounds, this will stop shrapnel and many aircraft guns

Cons:

Low crew of 14, the compartment aren't fully covered in armour, meaning some HE salvoes may knock you out instantly
Low speed of barely over 30 km/h, making you a great target for canons
Lacks any decent medium/long range AA
Shallow draught causes the boat to constantly rock in sea conditions, hampering accuracy

History

Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the ship in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the ship and adding a block "/History" (example: https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Ship-name)/History) and add a link to it here using the main template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <ref></ref>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <references />. This section may also include the ship's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under === In-game description ===, also if applicable).

Media

Skins

Skins and camouflages for the Pr.191M from live.warthunder.com.

External links

Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:

topic on the official game forum;
other literature.

USSR boats
Motor torpedo boats	D-3 · G-5 · G-5 (ShVAK) · Pr.123-bis · Pr.123K (A-10bis) · Pr.123K · Pr.183
Motor gun boats	TKA-412 · MO-4 · OD-200 · Pr.253L · Pr.183 BM-21 · Ya-5M
Motor torpedo gun boats	Pr. 206 · Pr.206-M · MPK Pr.12412 · MPK Pr.12412P · MPK Pr.11451
Gunboats	Groza
Armoured gun boats	BMO · MBK-161 early · MBK-161 late · MBK pr.186 · MBK pr.186 (MK 85) · Pr.1124 early · Pr.1124 late · Pr.1124 MLRS
	Pr.191 · Pr.191M · Pr.1204 · Pr.1204 late

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-{{Specs-Card|code=ussr_pr_191m}}
+{{About
+| about = Soviet armoured gun boat '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
+| usage = the other version
+| link = Pr.191
+}}
+{{Specs-Card
+|code=ussr_pr_191m
+|images={{Specs-Card-Image|GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg}}
+}}
 == Description ==
-<!--''In the first part of the description, cover the history of the ship’s creation and military application. In the second part, tell the reader about using this ship in the game. Add a screenshot. If a beginner player has a hard time remembering vehicles by name, a picture will help them understand which ship is being discussed.''-->
+<!-- ''In the first part of the description, cover the history of the ship's creation and military application. In the second part, tell the reader about using this ship in the game. Add a screenshot: if a beginner player has a hard time remembering vehicles by name, a picture will help them identify the ship in question.'' -->
-[[File:GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
+The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is an upgraded, production version of the [[Pr.191]]. It features new M-50 engines, making the boat slightly faster, addressing a key issue with the previous version. It is also equipped with new 14.5 mm [[KPV (14.5 mm)|KPV]] heavy machine guns, replacing the older 12.7 mm model. The boat entered production in 1947, although there were initial issues with the hull's bottom, which were later resolved. A total of 188 Pr.191M units were produced between 1947 and 1954, with most being assigned to the river patrol fleet.
-{{break}}
-The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Soviet armoured gun boat {{Battle-rating|1}}. It was introduced during [[Update 1.79 "Project X"]] when the Soviet fleet was implemented into the game.
+In the game, this boat was introduced during [[Update 1.79 "Project X"]] when the Soviet fleet was implemented into the game. It retains the same crew count and armour layout as the previous version but has a faster speed. The boat still uses the 85 mm cannon but now comes equipped with a 14.5 mm KPV heavy machine gun that can penetrate up to 40 mm of armor at close range, making it effective at destroying enemy boats and some armoured targets. It also has magnetic mines, though they are not particularly effective at sinking enemy destroyers.
 == General info ==
 === Survivability and armour ===
+{{Specs-Fleet-Armour}}
+<!-- ''Talk about the vehicle's armour. Note the most well-defended and most vulnerable zones, e.g. the ammo magazine. Evaluate the composition of components and assemblies responsible for movement and manoeuvrability. Evaluate the survivability of the primary and secondary armaments separately. Don't forget to mention the size of the crew, which plays an important role in fleet mechanics. Save tips on preserving survivability for the "Usage in battles" section. If necessary, use a graphical template to show the most well-protected or most vulnerable points in the armour.'' -->
 Positive aspects:
-* Hull is made of steel 6mm, this can stop some small caliber HE rounds and the occasional shrapnel.
+* The hull is made of 6 mm steel, this can stop some small calibre HE rounds and the occasional shrapnel.
-* The armored sections were designed to withstand rifle caliber, and will not protect you against 20mm AP and larger rounds.
+* The armoured sections were designed to withstand rifle-calibres, and will not protect you against 20 mm AP and larger rounds.
-* The dual 14.5mm turrets are however a serious threat to aircraft, a good salvo can seriously damage it, but that doesn't mean he won't be able to attack.
 Negative aspects:
-* Speed is rather slow at roughly 35kph, making you a great target for destroyers
+* Armour doesn't cover 100% of any compartments, meaning any HE that pierces more than 5 mm can destroy any compartments except the superstructure
-* Armor doesn't cover 100% of any compartments, meaning any HE that pierces more than 5mm can destroy any compartments except the superstructure
 * Low crew of 14
-* 85mm ammo isn't protected by any armor plates
+* 85 mm ammo isn't protected by any armour plates
 === Mobility ===
-''Write about the ship’s mobility. Evaluate its power and manoeuvrability, rudder rerouting speed, stopping speed at full tilt, with its maximum forward speed and reverse speed.''
+{{Specs-Fleet-Mobility}}
+''Write about the ship's mobility. Evaluate its power and manoeuvrability, rudder rerouting speed, stopping speed at full tilt, with its maximum forward and reverse speed.''
+{{NavalMobility}}
+=== Modifications and economy ===
+{{Specs-Economy}}
 == Armament ==
+{{Specs-Fleet-Armaments}}
 === Primary armament ===
-{{main|85 mm/54,6 ZIS-C-53 (85 mm)}}
+{{Specs-Fleet-Primary}}
-The 85mm/54.6 zis-C-53 gun is one of the best guns you will ever find at this  . This gun's HE is able to penetrate most if not all ships it faces, but it is recommended to keep a few APHE just in case.
+<!-- ''Provide information about the characteristics of the primary armament. Evaluate their efficacy in battle based on their reload speed, ballistics and the capacity of their shells. Add a link to the main article about the weapon: <code><nowiki>{{main|Weapon name (calibre)}}</nowiki></code>. Broadly describe the ammunition available for the primary armament, and provide recommendations on how to use it and which ammunition to choose.'' -->
+{{main|85 mm/54.6 ZIS-C-53 (85 mm)}}
+The 85 mm/54.6 ZIS-C-53 gun is one of the best guns you will ever find at this battle rating. This gun's HE is able to penetrate most if not all ships it faces, but it is recommended to keep a few APHE just in case.
+{{:85 mm/54.6 ZIS-C-53 (85 mm)/Ammunition|85 mm O-365K, 85 mm BR-365}}
 === Secondary armament ===
-Secondary armament consists of 2 turrets equipped with dual 14.5mm KPV heavy machineguns. The KPV was designed to destroy light vehicles, and can penetrate up to 40mm of RHA close up. This is not to be ignored, the round will go through aircraft's armor and engines like butter, wrecking anything in its way. This also means the KPV can deal significant damages to other PT boats, should the 85mm get knocked out.
+{{Specs-Fleet-Secondary}}
+<!-- ''Some ships are fitted with weapons of various calibres. Secondary armaments are defined as weapons chosen with the control <code>Select secondary weapon</code>. Evaluate the secondary armaments and give advice on how to use them. Describe the ammunition available for the secondary armament. Provide recommendations on how to use them and which ammunition to choose. Remember that any anti-air armament, even heavy calibre weapons, belong in the next section. If there is no secondary armament, remove this section.'' -->
+{{main|KPV (14.5 mm)}}
+Secondary armament consists of 2 turrets equipped with dual 14.5 mm KPVT heavy machine guns. The KPVT was designed to destroy light vehicles, and can penetrate up to 40 mm of RHA close up. This is not to be ignored, the round will go through the aircraft's armour and engines like butter, wrecking anything in its way. This also means the KPVT can deal significant damage to other PT boats.
+As AA guns, these will do well at close ranges up to 2,000 m. They will have difficulty against anything further away, and aren't well suited to attacking medium and large bombers.
+* '''Universal:''' {{Annotation|API-T|Armour-piercing incendiary tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|IAI|Immediate-action incendiary}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AP-I(c)|Armour-piercing incendiary (cermet core)}}{{-}}{{Annotation|IAI|Immediate-action incendiary}}
+* '''API-T:''' {{Annotation|API-T|Armour-piercing incendiary tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AP-I(c)|Armour-piercing incendiary (cermet core)}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AP-I|Armour-piercing incendiary}}{{-}}{{Annotation|IAI|Immediate-action incendiary}}
+* '''IAI:''' {{Annotation|IAI|Immediate-action incendiary}}{{-}}{{Annotation|IAI|Immediate-action incendiary}}{{-}}{{Annotation|IAI|Immediate-action incendiary}}{{-}}{{Annotation|API-T|Armour-piercing incendiary tracer}}
-As AA guns, these will do well at close ranges up to 2000m. They will have difficulty against anything further away, and aren't well suited to attack medium and large bombers.
+{{:KPV (14.5 mm)/Ammunition|API-T, IAI, AP-I(c), AP-I}}
-=== Special armament ===
+=== Additional armament ===
-<!--''Depth charges, mines, rocket launchers and missiles are also effective in skilled hands and can take an off-guard opponent by surprise. Evaluate the ammunition of this type of armament and rate its performance in combat. If there are no special armaments, remove this section.'-->
+{{Specs-Fleet-Additional}}
+<!-- ''Describe the available additional armaments of the ship: depth charges, mines, torpedoes. Talk about their positions, available ammunition and launch features such as dead zones of torpedoes. If there is no additional armament, remove this section.'' -->
 {{main|MIRAB mine}}
-The ship comes with 12 MIRAB mines. These mins are rather small, and should be used mostly against corvettes and smaller vessel. A destroyer will survive a hit without issue, and anything hitting a torpedo bulge won't deal any damages. These are best used in small capture points against other PT boats.
+The ship comes with 12 MIRAB mines. These mines are rather small, and should be used mostly against corvettes and smaller vessel. A destroyer will survive a hit without issue, and anything hitting a torpedo bulge won't deal any damage. These are best used in small capture points against other PT boats.
 == Usage in battles ==
-This ship is mainly a sniper, stay between 2000m and 4000m from PT boats and you'll be fine.
+''Describe the technique of using this ship, the characteristics of her use in a team and tips on strategy. Abstain from writing an entire guide – don't try to provide a single point of view, but give the reader food for thought. Talk about the most dangerous opponents for this vehicle and provide recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of playing with this vehicle in various modes (AB, RB, SB).''
-=== Modules ===
-{| class="wikitable"
-!Tier
-!Seakeeping
-! colspan="2" |Unsinkability
-! colspan="3" |Firepower
-|-
-| I
-| Dry-Docking
-| Tool Set
-|
-| IAI
-| 85 mm BR-365
-|
-|-
-| II
-| Rudder Replacement
-| Fire Protection System
-| Smokescreen
-| API-T
-| Auxiliary Armament Targeting
-|
-|-
-| III
-| Propeller Replacement
-|
-|
-|
-| Primary Armament Targeting
-| Improved Rangefinder
-|-
-| IV
-| Engine Maintenance
-| New Pumps
-|
-|Mines
-|
-|
-|}
 === Pros and cons ===
-''Summarize and briefly evaluate the vehicle in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark its pros and cons in the bulleted list. Try not to use more than 6 points for each of the characteristics. Avoid using categorical definitions such as "bad", "good" and the like - they have a substitution in the form of softer "inadequate", "effective".''
+<!-- ''Summarise and briefly evaluate the vehicle in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark its pros and cons in the bulleted list. Try not to use more than 6 points for each of the characteristics. Avoid using categorical definitions such as "bad", "good" and the like - use substitutions with softer forms such as "inadequate" and "effective".'' -->
 '''Pros:'''
-* 85mm main gun will be useful against all types of targets up to destroyer sized. 14.5mm KPV will help against close aircraft and PT boats
+* 85 mm main gun will be useful against all types of targets up to destroyer size while 14.5 mm KPVT gun will help against close aircraft and PT boats
-* Armor can withstand up to 12.7mm rounds, this will stop shrapnel and most aircraft guns
+* Armour can withstand up to 12.7 mm rounds, this will stop shrapnel and many aircraft guns
-*
 '''Cons:'''
-* Low crew of 14, the compartment aren't fully covered in armor, meaning some HE salvos may knock you out instantly
+* Low crew of 14, the compartment aren't fully covered in armour, meaning some HE salvoes may knock you out instantly
-* low speed of barely over 30kph, making you a great target for canons
+* Low speed of barely over 30 km/h, making you a great target for canons
-* lacks any decent medium/long range AA
+* Lacks any decent medium/long range AA
+* Shallow draught causes the boat to constantly rock in sea conditions, hampering accuracy
-*
 == History ==
-''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the ship in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too big, take it to a separate article, taking a link to an article about the vehicle and adding a block "/ History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article.''
+''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the ship in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the ship and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Ship-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the ship's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).''
 == Media ==
-''An excellent addition to the article will be video guides, as well as screenshots from the game and photos.''
+<!-- ''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.'' -->
+;Skins
+* [https://live.warthunder.com/feed/camouflages/?vehicle=ussr_pr_191m Skins and camouflages for the {{PAGENAME}} from live.warthunder.com.]
 == See also ==
-''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
+<!-- ''Links to articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:''
+* ''reference to the series of the ship;''
+* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.'' -->
-* ''reference to the series of the ship;''
+* [[Pr.191]]
-* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.''
 == External links ==
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 * ''topic on the official game forum;''
-* ''encyclopedia page on ship;''
 * ''other literature.''
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Difference between revisions of "Pr.191M"

Latest revision as of 05:45, 27 September 2024

Contents

Description

General info

Survivability and armour

Mobility

Modifications and economy

Armament

Primary armament

Secondary armament

Additional armament

Usage in battles

Pros and cons

History

Media

See also

External links