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[[File:Model 1923DT.jpg|thumb|x250px|550 mm Model 1923DT torpedo about to enter water]]
 
== Description ==
 
== Description ==
 
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'''Model 1923DT''' is a French torpedo used on a wide range of ''La Royale'' bluewater naval vessels. It features a combination of a large warhead, good range and speed.
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The '''Model 1923DT''' is a French torpedo used on a wide range of French bluewater naval vessels. It features a combination of a large warhead, good range and speed.
  
 
=== Vehicles equipped with this weapon ===
 
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! Torpedo Mode !! Mass (kg) !! Maximum speed in water (km/h) !! Travel distance (km) !! Depth stroke (m) !! Arming distance (m) !! Explosive type !! Explosive mass (kg) !! TNT equivalent (kg)
 
! Torpedo Mode !! Mass (kg) !! Maximum speed in water (km/h) !! Travel distance (km) !! Depth stroke (m) !! Arming distance (m) !! Explosive type !! Explosive mass (kg) !! TNT equivalent (kg)
 
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| {{Annotation|No|'Torpedo Mode' modification uninstalled}} || 2100 || 72 || 9 || 1 || 50 || TNT || 308 || 308
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| {{Annotation|No|'Torpedo Mode' modification uninstalled}} || 2,100 || 72 || 9 || 1 || 50 || TNT || 308 || 308
 
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| {{Annotation|Yes|'Torpedo Mode' modification installed}} || 2100 || 64.8 || 13 || 1 || 50 || TNT || 308 || 308
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| {{Annotation|Yes|'Torpedo Mode' modification installed}} || 2,100 || 64.8 || 13 || 1 || 50 || TNT || 308 || 308
 
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[[File:Model 1923DT fuse.png|thumb|right|Contact fuse of the torpedo]]
 
=== Effective damage ===
 
=== Effective damage ===
 
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308 kilogram high explosive warhead is typically able to take down any destroyer and most of the light cruisers in a single hit, if it's done near the ammunition storage. It will struggle, however, against any vessel equipped with a torpedo bulkheads.
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The 308 kilogram high explosive warhead is typically able to take down any destroyer and most of the light cruisers in a single hit, if it's done near the ammunition storage. It will struggle, however, against any vessel equipped with a torpedo bulkheads.
  
 
=== Comparison with analogues ===
 
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Compared to its peers Model 1923DT features above-average warhead, while maintaining decent speed at a very good range of 9 km even before the Torpedo Mode is unlocked.
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Compared to its peers, the Model 1923DT features above-average warhead, while maintaining decent speed at a very good range of 9 km even before the Torpedo Mode is unlocked.
  
 
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== Usage in battles ==
 
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=== Pros and cons ===
 
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'''Pros:'''
 
'''Pros:'''
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* Large explosive filler
 
* Large explosive filler
 
* Above-average range while still maintaining average speed
 
* Above-average range while still maintaining average speed
  
 
'''Cons:'''
 
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* Speed while good, even excellent considering the range, but remains somewhat lacklustre compared to a more modern equivalents
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* Speed, while good, even excellent considering the range, remains somewhat lacklustre compared to a more modern equivalents
  
 
== History ==
 
== History ==
 
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The 550 mm torpedo Modèle 1923D and Modèle 1923DT were a further development of the 550 mm Modèle 1919V and featured an impressive performance in range, speed and destructive power. The 415 kg AG 329 warhead had a contact fuse with a 1.5kg picric acid detonator. Main body contained 195kg of compressed air at 196 bar pressure and a supply of Schneider alcohol used as a fuel for a 4-cilinder radial engine with two contra-rotating propellers at the aft of the torpedo. At the time of introduction to service only [[Type 8 No.2 (610 mm)|Japanese Type 8]] torpedoes were more massive than the 1923DT.
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[[File:Mle 1922T launch tube.png|thumb|right|Modèle 1922T tube launching Mle 1923DT off [[Emile Bertin]]]]
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The 550 mm torpedo Modèle 1923D and Modèle 1923DT were a further development of the 550 mm Modèle 1919V and featured an impressive performance in range, speed and destructive power. The 415 kg AG 329 warhead had a contact fuse with a 1.5 kg picric acid detonator. The main body contained 195 kg of compressed air at 196 bar pressure and a supply of Schneider alcohol used as a fuel for a 4-cylinder radial engine with two contra-rotating propellers at the aft of the torpedo. At the time of introduction to service, only [[Type 8 No.2 (610 mm)|Japanese Type 8]] torpedoes were more massive than the 1923DT.
  
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Torpedo design allowed to have warheads stored separately, in a designated steel lockers on the edge of the hull, so that any secondary explosion would be directed outwards, away from the vessel that carried them. [[Duguay-Trouin (Family)|Duguay-Trouin-class]] also had an unique feature where the lockers could be tilted to jettison explosives into the sea in case of a fire.
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The torpedo design allowed to have warheads stored separately, in designated steel lockers on the edge of the hull, so that any secondary explosion would be directed outwards, away from the vessel that carried them. The [[Duguay-Trouin (Family)|Duguay-Trouin class]] also had an unique feature where the lockers could be tilted to jettison explosives into the sea in case of a fire.
  
 
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* ''topic on the official game forum;''
 
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* [http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WTFR_Main.php <nowiki>[NavWeaps]</nowiki> Torpedoes of France]
 
* [http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WTFR_Main.php <nowiki>[NavWeaps]</nowiki> Torpedoes of France]
 
* Jordan John and Jean Moulin. 2013. French Cruisers 1922-1956. Annapolis Maryland: Naval Institute Press.
 
* Jordan John and Jean Moulin. 2013. French Cruisers 1922-1956. Annapolis Maryland: Naval Institute Press.

Latest revision as of 11:39, 17 September 2024

550 mm Model 1923DT torpedo about to enter water

Description

The Model 1923DT is a French torpedo used on a wide range of French bluewater naval vessels. It features a combination of a large warhead, good range and speed.

Vehicles equipped with this weapon

Vehicles equipped with this weapon
Destroyers  Aigle · Bourrasque · Chacal · Le Malin · Le Triomphant · Leopard · Milan · Mogador · Panthere · Tornade · Vauquelin · Vautour
Light cruisers  Emile Bertin · Primauguet
Heavy cruisers  Colbert · Dupleix

General info

Torpedo characteristics
Torpedo Mode Mass (kg) Maximum speed in water (km/h) Travel distance (km) Depth stroke (m) Arming distance (m) Explosive type Explosive mass (kg) TNT equivalent (kg)
No 2,100 72 9 1 50 TNT 308 308
Yes 2,100 64.8 13 1 50 TNT 308 308
Contact fuse of the torpedo

Effective damage

The 308 kilogram high explosive warhead is typically able to take down any destroyer and most of the light cruisers in a single hit, if it's done near the ammunition storage. It will struggle, however, against any vessel equipped with a torpedo bulkheads.

Comparison with analogues

Compared to its peers, the Model 1923DT features above-average warhead, while maintaining decent speed at a very good range of 9 km even before the Torpedo Mode is unlocked.

Name Country
of origin 		Diameter
(mm) 		Mass (kg) Explosive
type 		TNT equivalent
(kg) 		Max speed
(km/h) 		Max range
(km)
12.75 inch Mark 44 USA flag.png 324 235 HBX 54.4 56 5.49
12.75 inch Mark 46 USA flag.png 324 235 TNT 44.5 91 7.30
18 inch Mark XII Britain flag.png 450 702 TNT 176 74 1.37
18 inch Mark XV Britain flag.png 450 817 Torpex 395.2 61 3.20
18 inch Type 38 No.2 B Japan flag.png 450 663 Shimose 104.5 59 2.00
18-inch Mk.7 USA flag.png 450 720 TNT 93 59 3.65
21 in Mk.8 USA flag.png 533 1,252 TNT 146 50 9.14
21 inch Mark I Britain flag.png 533 1,270 TNT 102 56 11.00
21 inch Mk.20 Bidder Britain flag.png 533 821 TNT 89 37 11.00
21 inch Type 43 (1910) Japan flag.png 533 1,187 Shimose 143 50 8.00
45-36NU USSR flag.png 450 951 TNT 200 76 4.00
53-38 USSR flag.png 533 1,615 TNT 300 82 4.00
53-39 USSR flag.png 533 1,780 TNT 317 94 4.00
53-56 USSR flag.png 533 2,000 TNT 400 93 8.00
53-57 USSR flag.png 533 2,000 TNT 306 83 18.00
53-65 USSR flag.png 533 2,070 TNT 300 126 12.00
Bliss-Leavitt Mk.1 USA flag.png 533 680 TNT 91 50 3.66
C/06D Germany flag.png 450 810 TNT 122.6 50 5.90
G6c Germany flag.png 533 1,008 TNT 160 50 5.00
G7 Germany flag.png 500 1,365 TNT 249.6 69 4.00
G7a Germany flag.png 533 1,528 SW39a 358.4 81 6.00
H/8 Germany flag.png 600 2,160 SW39a 268.8 67 6.00
LT 1A/1 Germany flag.png 450 812 TNT 250 74 2.00
Mark 35 USA flag.png 533 803 Torpex 196 50 13.71
Mk.8-3 C/D USA flag.png 533 1,373 TNT 174.2 50 12.35
Mk.13 USA flag.png 569 884 TNT 178 56 5.21
Mk.15 USA flag.png 533 1,559 TNT 224 83 5.50
Mk.16 USA flag.png 533 1,766 Torpex 915.2 85 6.40
Mk.IV Britain flag.png 533 1,454 TNT 234 65 7.30
Mk.IX Britain flag.png 533 1,693 TNT 340 67 9.60
Mk.IX** Britain flag.png 533 1,693 Torpex 587.2 76 10.00
Mk.V Britain flag.png 533 1,736 TNT 305 74 4.57
Mk.VIII Britain flag.png 533 1,566 TNT 327 84 4.57
1909R France flag.png 450 716 TNT 144 61 2.00
Model 1919V France flag.png 550 1,358 Picric acid 261.8 80 2.00
Model 1923DT France flag.png 550 2,100 TNT 308 72 9.00
1926V France flag.png 400 674 TNT 144 81 2.00
L3 France flag.png 550 910 TNT 200 46 5.00
Pattern 1910 USSR flag.png 450 665 TNT 100 54 3.00
Pattern 1912 USSR flag.png 450 810 TNT 100 80 2.00
R.G.F. Mark VI** Britain flag.png 450 700 TNT 134 56 5.49
S.I.170/450X5,25 Italy flag.png 450 860 TNT 170 76 4.00
S.I.270 Italy flag.png 533 1,715 TNT 270 74 4.00
S.I. 250/533,4X7,5 Tipo A Italy flag.png 533 1,781 TNT 250 76 4.00
S.I. 270/533,4X7,2 Tipo I Italy flag.png 533 1,700 TNT 270 89 4.00
S.I. 270/533,4X7,2 Tipo M Italy flag.png 533 1,715 TNT 270 93 4.00
S.I. 270/533X6.84 Tipo L Italy flag.png 533 1,700 TNT 270 93 4.00
Seal DM2A1 Germany flag.png 533 1,370 TNT 250 61 20.00
SET-40 USSR flag.png 400 550 TNT 80 54 8.00
SET-53M USSR flag.png 533 1,480 TNT 100 54 14.00
SET-65 USSR flag.png 533 1,740 TNT 205 74 16.00
SET-72 USSR flag.png 400 730 TNT 80 74 8.00
Type 2 Japan flag.png 450 1,000 Type 97 448 72 3.00
Type 6 Japan flag.png 533 1,432 Shimose 223.3 65 7.00
Type 8 No.2 Japan flag.png 610 2,362 Shimose 380.6 70 10.00
Type 43 Japan flag.png 450 663 Shimose 104.5 48 5.00
Type 44 No.2 Japan flag.png 450 750 Shimose 121 65 4.00
Type 54 model 3 Japan flag.png 533 1,600 TNT 100 44 6.00
Type 72 mod.1 Japan flag.png 533 1,760 TNT 300 120 10.00
Type 89 Japan flag.png 533 1,660 Type 97 384 83 5.50
Type 90 Japan flag.png 610 2,540 Type 97 480 85 7.00
Type 93 Model 1, Mod 2 Japan flag.png 610 2,700 Type 97 627.2 91 20.00
Type 93 Model 3 Japan flag.png 610 2,800 Type 97 998.4 91 15.00
W.200/450X5,75 Italy flag.png 450 930 TNT 200 81 3.00
Whitehead A 110/450 Italy flag.png 450 936 TNT 110 56 4.00

Usage in battles

Describe situations when you would utilise this torpedo in-game (vehicle, pillbox, base, etc)

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Large explosive filler
  • Above-average range while still maintaining average speed

Cons:

  • Speed, while good, even excellent considering the range, remains somewhat lacklustre compared to a more modern equivalents

History

Modèle 1922T tube launching Mle 1923DT off Emile Bertin

The 550 mm torpedo Modèle 1923D and Modèle 1923DT were a further development of the 550 mm Modèle 1919V and featured an impressive performance in range, speed and destructive power. The 415 kg AG 329 warhead had a contact fuse with a 1.5 kg picric acid detonator. The main body contained 195 kg of compressed air at 196 bar pressure and a supply of Schneider alcohol used as a fuel for a 4-cylinder radial engine with two contra-rotating propellers at the aft of the torpedo. At the time of introduction to service, only Japanese Type 8 torpedoes were more massive than the 1923DT.

The torpedo design allowed to have warheads stored separately, in designated steel lockers on the edge of the hull, so that any secondary explosion would be directed outwards, away from the vessel that carried them. The Duguay-Trouin class also had an unique feature where the lockers could be tilted to jettison explosives into the sea in case of a fire.

Media

Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.

See also

Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:

  • reference to the article about the variant of the weapon;
  • references to approximate analogues by other nations and research trees.

External links


Torpedoes
USA 
450 mm  Mk.7
533 mm  Bliss-Leavitt Mk.1 · Mark 35 · Mk.8 · Mk.8-3 C/D · Mk.15 · Mk.16
569 mm  Mk.13 · Mk.13-6† · Mk.13-6 Case†
Germany 
324 mm  Mark 44
450 mm  C/06D · LT 1A/1 · F5W† · F5b†
500 mm  G7 · G6c
533 mm  G7a · Seal DM2A1
600 mm  H/8
USSR 
400 mm  SET-40 · SET-72
450 mm  Pattern 1910 · Pattern 1912 · 45-36NU‡ · 45-36AN† · 45-36MAN†
533 mm  53-38 · 53-39 · 53-56 · 53-57 · 53-65 · SET-53M · SET-65
Britain 
450 mm  R.G.F. Mark VI** · Mark XII‡ · Mark XV‡
533 mm  Mark I · Mk.IV · Mk.V · Mk.VIII · Mk.IX · Mk.IX** · 21 inch Mk.20 Bidder
Japan 
324 mm  Mark 46
450 mm  Type 2 · Type 38 No.2 B · Type 43 · Type 44 No.2 · Type 91 Model 2† · Type 91 Model 3†
533 mm  Type 6 · Type 43 (1910) · Type 54 Model 3 · Type 72 Model 1 · Type 89
610 mm  Type 8 No.2 · Type 90 · Type 93 Model 1, Mod 2 · Type 93 Model 3
Italy 
450 mm  F200/450† · S.I.170/450X5,25 · W.200/450X5,75 · Whitehead A 110/450
533 mm  S.I.270 · S.I. 250/533,4X7,5 Tipo A · S.I. 270/533,4X7,2 Tipo I · S.I. 270/533X6.84 Tipo L · S.I. 270/533,4X7,2 Tipo M
France 
400 mm  1926DA†
450 mm  1909R
550 mm  L3 · Model 1919V · Model 1923DT
Sweden 
450 mm  m/38† · m/41†
  † = Aerial torpedo
‡ = Aerial and ship-launched torpedo

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