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The '''USS Candid''' was a minesweeper of the Admirable class built by the US Navy during World War II, in service between 1943 and 1945. The USS Candid was sent in 1944 to Alaska, to help in convoy escorts and to sweep mines in the area. She also supported the US Army in the Kuril islands and other areas on the north of Japan. The USS Candid also served in the Marshall Islands and the Mariana Islands providing escort services. As part of a secret program, she was transferred to the Soviet Union in 1945 under the designation '''T-283''' and served up until 1958. While the US required the return of most ships sent to the Soviet Union, the USS Candid was never returned and stayed with the USSR until it was removed from Soviet naval registers in 1958. Its fate is still uncertain.
 
The '''USS Candid''' was a minesweeper of the Admirable class built by the US Navy during World War II, in service between 1943 and 1945. The USS Candid was sent in 1944 to Alaska, to help in convoy escorts and to sweep mines in the area. She also supported the US Army in the Kuril islands and other areas on the north of Japan. The USS Candid also served in the Marshall Islands and the Mariana Islands providing escort services. As part of a secret program, she was transferred to the Soviet Union in 1945 under the designation '''T-283''' and served up until 1958. While the US required the return of most ships sent to the Soviet Union, the USS Candid was never returned and stayed with the USSR until it was removed from Soviet naval registers in 1958. Its fate is still uncertain.
  
It was introduced in [[Update "Red Skies"]]. The USS Candid works as a gun boat, being relatively large compared to other coastal ships of its rank like the US PT boats. The armour is nothing special, though due to her large displacement, the Candid has a detailed damage model which allows her to take a lot of hits from autocannons and is immune to any machine guns. In addition, she is very capable of dealing with other coastal ships, thanks to her powerful armament, a 3 inch Mk 10 cannon, two 40 mm Bofors L/60 cannons, and four 20 mm/70 Oerlikon Mk.II autocannon that are a big threat to enemy aircraft and smaller vessels. The USS Candid works very good defending capture points from smaller but more agile boats, and protecting destroyers and larger ships from aircraft and torpedo boats.
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It was introduced in [[Update "Red Skies"]]. The USS Candid works as a gun boat, being relatively large compared to other coastal ships of its rank like the US PT boats. The armour is nothing special, and it has a relatively small crew of 95 sailors, a hit by an enemy plane with a small 500 kg bomb could be enough to destroy the ship, and it is also very vulnerable to cannon fire from aircraft and other boats even without AP belts. However, it is very capable of dealing with other coastal ships, thanks to its powerful armament, a 3 inch Mk 10 cannon, two 40 mm Bofors L/60 cannons, and four 20 mm/70 Oerlikon Mk.II autocannon that are a big threat to enemy aircraft and smaller vessels. The USS Candid works very good defending capture points from smaller but more agile boats, and protecting destroyers and larger ships from aircraft and torpedo boats.
  
 
== General info ==
 
== General info ==
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With nearly 900 tons of displacement, the Candid has a detailed damage model. This alone makes her much more durable than her nominal "upgrade" the [[LCS(L)(3)]], as she is capable of shrugging off any machine gun rounds with little to no damage, and requiring a lot of hits from large caliber autocannons to take her down. In addition, the Candid's sizable crew of 95 is well spread out along the relatively large and spacious hull of the ship, allowing her to take absorb a lot of damage.
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The USS Candid has poor survivability and armour. While its armour is enough to stop 12.7 mm HMG rounds in critical areas, it is not enough to stop 40 mm autocannon shots. The depth charges are a big weak point, and can cause an explosion in the rear of the vessel if impacted directly, damaging the propulsion systems. Its good crew size however, improves survivability against catastrophic explosions and destruction of a particular section.
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=== Mobility ===
 
=== Mobility ===
 
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In terms of mobility, the USS Candid is quite slow, since she was designed as a minesweeper. She is lighter than a destroyer but heavier than PT boats, however she manages to be slower than all of them, with a top speed of 24 km/h, while most other US ships have top speeds above 30-40 km/h. This will not help her to evade incoming fire or torpedoes at close range.
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In terms of mobility, the USS Candid is quite slow, since it was designed as a minesweeper. It is lighter than a destroyer but heavier than PT boats, however it manages to be slower than all of them, with a top speed of 24 km/h, while most other US ships have top speeds above 30-40 km/h.
  
 
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'''Pros:'''
 
'''Pros:'''
* Detailed damage model; immune to HMG fire and resistant to 20 mm autocannons
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* Powerful secondary armament
 
* Powerful secondary armament
 
* Large crew for increased survivability
 
* Large crew for increased survivability
 
* Spaced interior which decreases the chances of critical damage
 
* Spaced interior which decreases the chances of critical damage
 
* Good anti aircraft armament for close ranges
 
* Good anti aircraft armament for close ranges
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* Immune to HMG fire and resistant to 20 mm autocannons
  
 
'''Cons:'''
 
'''Cons:'''
  
* Large target, vulnerable to torpedoes and artillery strikes
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* Exposed depth charges which decrease survivability
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* No torpedoes
 
* Poor main armament
 
* Poor main armament
* Poor top speed and mobility
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* Poor top speed for its BR
* Will be frequently matched against early destroyers that can easily outgun the ship
 
  
 
== History ==
 
== History ==

Revision as of 11:03, 29 February 2024

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Description

The USS Candid was a minesweeper of the Admirable class built by the US Navy during World War II, in service between 1943 and 1945. The USS Candid was sent in 1944 to Alaska, to help in convoy escorts and to sweep mines in the area. She also supported the US Army in the Kuril islands and other areas on the north of Japan. The USS Candid also served in the Marshall Islands and the Mariana Islands providing escort services. As part of a secret program, she was transferred to the Soviet Union in 1945 under the designation T-283 and served up until 1958. While the US required the return of most ships sent to the Soviet Union, the USS Candid was never returned and stayed with the USSR until it was removed from Soviet naval registers in 1958. Its fate is still uncertain.

It was introduced in Update "Red Skies". The USS Candid works as a gun boat, being relatively large compared to other coastal ships of its rank like the US PT boats. The armour is nothing special, and it has a relatively small crew of 95 sailors, a hit by an enemy plane with a small 500 kg bomb could be enough to destroy the ship, and it is also very vulnerable to cannon fire from aircraft and other boats even without AP belts. However, it is very capable of dealing with other coastal ships, thanks to its powerful armament, a 3 inch Mk 10 cannon, two 40 mm Bofors L/60 cannons, and four 20 mm/70 Oerlikon Mk.II autocannon that are a big threat to enemy aircraft and smaller vessels. The USS Candid works very good defending capture points from smaller but more agile boats, and protecting destroyers and larger ships from aircraft and torpedo boats.

General info

Survivability and armour

Armourfront / side / back
Hull16 mm (steel)
Superstructure4 mm (steel)
Number of section4
Displacement877 t
Crew95 people

The USS Candid has poor survivability and armour. While its armour is enough to stop 12.7 mm HMG rounds in critical areas, it is not enough to stop 40 mm autocannon shots. The depth charges are a big weak point, and can cause an explosion in the rear of the vessel if impacted directly, damaging the propulsion systems. Its good crew size however, improves survivability against catastrophic explosions and destruction of a particular section.

Mobility

Speedforward / back
AB38 / 19 km/h
RB28 / 14 km/h

In terms of mobility, the USS Candid is quite slow, since it was designed as a minesweeper. It is lighter than a destroyer but heavier than PT boats, however it manages to be slower than all of them, with a top speed of 24 km/h, while most other US ships have top speeds above 30-40 km/h.

Mobility Characteristics
Game Mode Upgrade Status Maximum Speed (km/h) Turn Time (s) Turn Radius (m)
Forward Reverse
AB Stock ___ ___
Upgraded 38 19
RB/SB Stock ___ ___
Upgraded 28 14

Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference
AB3 175 → 3 990 Sl icon.png
RB4 074 → 5 121 Sl icon.png
Total cost of modifications90 200 Rp icon.png
155 200 Sl icon.png
Talisman cost1 700 Ge icon.png
Crew training87 000 Sl icon.png
Experts300 000 Sl icon.png
Aces1 100 Ge icon.png
Research Aces520 000 Rp icon.png
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
120 / 190 / 100 % Sl icon.png
172 / 172 / 172 % Rp icon.png
Modifications
Seakeeping Unsinkability Firepower
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Dry-Docking
Research:
3 600 Rp icon.png
Cost:
6 200 Sl icon.png
180 Ge icon.png
Mods new ship rudder.png
Rudder Replacement
Research:
3 400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
5 800 Sl icon.png
170 Ge icon.png
Mods new ship screw.png
Propeller Replacement
Research:
5 600 Rp icon.png
Cost:
9 600 Sl icon.png
280 Ge icon.png
Mods new ship engine.png
Engine Maintenance
Research:
9 800 Rp icon.png
Cost:
17 000 Sl icon.png
500 Ge icon.png
Mods ship damage control crew.png
Damage Control Division
Research:
3 600 Rp icon.png
Cost:
6 200 Sl icon.png
180 Ge icon.png
Mods ship fire control crew.png
Fire Division
Research:
3 400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
5 800 Sl icon.png
170 Ge icon.png
Mods engine smoke screen system.png
Smokescreen
Research:
3 400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
5 800 Sl icon.png
170 Ge icon.png
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New Pumps
Research:
9 800 Rp icon.png
Cost:
17 000 Sl icon.png
500 Ge icon.png
Mods new aa caliber turrets.png
Anti-Air Armament Targeting
Research:
3 600 Rp icon.png
Cost:
6 200 Sl icon.png
180 Ge icon.png
Mods ammo.png
40 mm HE clips
Research:
3 600 Rp icon.png
Cost:
6 200 Sl icon.png
180 Ge icon.png
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76 mm AP
Research:
3 600 Rp icon.png
Cost:
6 200 Sl icon.png
180 Ge icon.png
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Auxiliary Armament Targeting
Research:
3 400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
5 800 Sl icon.png
170 Ge icon.png
Mods ammo.png
40 mm AP clips
Research:
3 400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
5 800 Sl icon.png
170 Ge icon.png
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76 mm HE-RF
Research:
3 400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
5 800 Sl icon.png
170 Ge icon.png
Mods new main caliber turrets.png
Primary Armament Targeting
Research:
5 600 Rp icon.png
Cost:
9 600 Sl icon.png
280 Ge icon.png
Mods ship rangefinder.png
Improved Rangefinder
Research:
5 600 Rp icon.png
Cost:
9 600 Sl icon.png
280 Ge icon.png
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Depth Charges
Research:
5 600 Rp icon.png
Cost:
9 600 Sl icon.png
280 Ge icon.png
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Bomb mortar
Research:
9 800 Rp icon.png
Cost:
17 000 Sl icon.png
500 Ge icon.png

Most important modifications for the USS Candid are the mobility, the 76 mm APCBC and HE shells, the smoke screen, and the range finder, for better target acquisition.

Armament

Primary armament

Turret3-inch Mark 10 cannon
Ammunition400 rounds
Vertical guidance-10° / 85°

The main armament of the USS Candid is its 76 mm Mark 10 cannon, with APCBC and HE as its main shells. The HE shells can be used with a proximity fuse, which increases effectiveness against aircraft. The only problem is that it only has 1 cannon of this type, which is not the best option to deal with heavier opponents.

Penetration statistics
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
100 m 1,000 m 2,000 m 3,000 m 4,000 m 5,000 m
HC Mk.27 HE 8 8 8 8 8 8
AP Mk.29 APCBC 111 90 71 56 44 36
AA Mk.31 HE-VT 7 7 7 7 7 7
Shell details
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Velocity
(m/s)
Projectile
mass (kg)
Fuse delay
(s)
Fuse sensitivity
(mm)
Explosive mass
(TNT equivalent) (g)
Ricochet
0% 50% 100%
HC Mk.27 HE 823 5.9 0 0.1 500 79° 80° 81°
AP Mk.29 APCBC 823 5.9 0.01 4 133.28 48° 63° 71°
Proximity-fused shell details
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Velocity
(m/s)
Projectile
mass (kg)
Fuse delay
(m)
Fuse sensitivity
(mm)
Arming
distance (m)
Trigger
radius (m)
Explosive mass
(TNT equivalent) (g)
Ricochet
0% 50% 100%
AA Mk.31 HE-VT 823 5.85 0 0.1 548 15 352.8 79° 80° 81°

Secondary armament

2 х Turret40 mm Bofors L/60 Mark 3 gun
Ammunition2000 rounds
Belt capacity4 rounds
Fire rate160 shots/min

The USS Candid has two 40 mm Bofors cannons as its secondary armament, one on each side of the ship and located at the rear. These can be used effectively against lighter ships, such as torpedo boats, and cause a lot of damage.

  • Universal: AP-T · HEFI-T
  • 40 mm HE clips: HEFI-T · HEFI-T · HEFI-T · AP-T
  • 40 mm AP clips: AP-T · AP-T · AP-T · HEFI-T

Penetration statistics
Ammunition Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
10 m 100 m 500 m 1,000 m 1,500 m 2,000 m
HEFI-T 3 3 3 3 3 3
AP-T 81 78 68 58 49 41
Shell details
Ammunition Velocity
(m/s)
Projectile
mass (kg)
Fuse delay
(m)
Fuse sensitivity
(mm)
Explosive mass
(TNT equivalent) (g)
Ricochet
0% 50% 100%
HEFI-T 874 0.9 0 0.1 67.13 79° 80° 81°
AP-T 874 0.89 - - - 47° 60° 65°

Anti-aircraft armament

4 х Turret20 mm/70 Oerlikon Mk.II autocannon
Ammunition1800 rounds
Belt capacity60 rounds
Fire rate450 shots/min

For anti-aircraft armament the USS Candid relies on its four Oerlikon 20 mm cannons, although the rest of the armament can also be used for anti-aircraft duties. The Oerlikon cannons offer good enough protection against slow aircraft at close ranges, but are not powerful enough to consistently destroy them at long range, instead, they are better used against scout aircraft or torpedo bombers flying low and slow.

Additional armament

Setup 120 x Mk.6 depth charge
Setup 224 x Mk.10 "Hedgehog" mortar
2 x Mk.6 mortar depth charge
Setup 324 x Mk.10 "Hedgehog" mortar
2 x Mk.6 mortar depth charge
20 x Mk.6 depth charge

The USS Candid lacks torpedoes, which does hamper its ability to engage heavier targets such as destroyers or light cruisers. It does however have depth charges and can be fitted with a Mk.10 Hedgehog mortar and a Mk.6 mortar depth charge, which can be used to some extent against light targets, but are not as effective against heavier cruisers.

Usage in battles

The USS Candid is a good support ship, is not the fastest nor the most armed, it has enough armament to deal with torpedo boats and protect more important assets like destroyers or cruisers from light targets. It can also provide decent anti-aircraft coverage for the fleet, however it struggles against heavy opponents due to its lack of heavy armament or torpedoes, for that reason, is highly recommended that you stay close to your team and don't engage with the main enemy fleet.

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Powerful secondary armament
  • Large crew for increased survivability
  • Spaced interior which decreases the chances of critical damage
  • Good anti aircraft armament for close ranges
  • Immune to HMG fire and resistant to 20 mm autocannons

Cons:

  • Exposed depth charges which decrease survivability
  • No torpedoes
  • Poor main armament
  • Poor top speed for its BR

History

The USS Candid was an Admirable-class minesweeper built for the US Navy during World War 2. Commissioned in 1943, the vessel was originally classified as a coastal minesweeper, but was reclassified as a normal minesweeper. It was first deployed in 1944 for duty in the waters of Alaska and called upon to escort convoys and conduct patrols as well as to sweep mines in the area.

She was part of the US attacks on the Kuril Islands in the north of Japan and returned to San Francisco in August of 1944. Two weeks later she participated in operations in the Marshall Islands and the Mariana islands providing escort services in the area and support for the troops in the islands while the region was being developed to facilitate naval and air strikes against the Japanese forces.

In 1945, the USS Candid was transferred to the Soviet Navy, as part of a secret plan to rearm the Soviet Navy in case that the Soviet Union decided to join the war against the Japanese forces alongside the United States. After the completion of the training of Soviet crews, the USS Candid was decommissioned from the US navy and transferred under the Lend Lease program. Under Soviet service, the USS Candid was also classified as minesweeper. In February 1946, when the Cold War was beginning, the USA began negotiations for the return of all those ships loaned to the USSR for use during World War 2. The US Navy was not particularly interested in receiving very old ships that were outmatched by more modern designs, so many American ships were merely administratively returned to the USA and instead sold for scrap in the Soviet Union. The USS Candid however was never returned, but the US Navy reclassified her as a fleet minesweeper and re-designated her as MSF 154 in 1955. Its destiny is uncertain and it disappeared from Soviet battle registries in 1958.

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  PT-200 · PT-314 · Thunderbolt (PT-556) · PT-565 · PT-658 · PT-810 · PT-811 · PT-812
Motor gun boats  Kim Qui · LCS(L)(3) · PT-59 · PTF-7 · USS Candid · USS Asheville · USS Douglas · USS Flagstaff · USS Tucumcari · USS Cyclone
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