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Revision as of 14:53, 28 January 2020

Rank 7 USA
F-5C Pack
Maus
germ_pzkpfw_maus.png
Maus
AB RB SB
8.0 7.7 7.7
Class:
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Description

GarageImage Maus.jpg


The Pz.Kpfw. VIII Maus is a rank V German heavy tank with a battle rating of 8.0 (AB) and 7.7 (RB/SB). It was introduced in Update 1.47 "Big Guns" as a main tree vehicle, however as of Update 1.91 "Night Vision" it was shifted to become a gift vehicle for players who previously owned it. The Maus is the definitive tank of heavy armour in Rank V and is the largest ground vehicle in game. The Maus can be a menace in the battlefield and conversely also a bullet magnet, a double-edged sword that must be played correctly or else fall victim to heavy enemy fire.

The "Maus" lives up to its reputation as a mobile bunker. The dual guns do great damage, however, against high-rank tanks it is best to use the 128 mm main gun. It is important to protect the back armour on the Maus and to make sure it does not get outflanked. Preferable used at long range and choke points. Best used as an armoured beast able to destroy vehicles and take any shot.

Speed on the vehicle is roughly 20 kph. The sheer mass of the vehicle and its speed makes the mobility difference from the road to off-road negligible. The vehicle can actually turn pretty fast once at Gear 6, which is better than the Jagdtiger and some other Rank V heavy counterparts. Keep that in mind and use it as an advantage in CQC.

The 128 mm is a great gun in-game, very accurate and perfect for mid to long range engagements. The reload is very good too for its calibre (23-second stock) that is a big advantage versus IS-4s, because the Maus has three seconds for an extra shot. KwK44 has the best penetration value of any APHE shell in-game. However, the APCR and HEAT shells of the T-54 and late US vehicles surpasses it. Damage wise the 128mm PzGr.43 is equivalent to the 122mm BR-471 of the D-25T, where penetration usually means a knock-out.

Coaxial LMG? Pff, that's for normal tanks (But it is there anyway). On the Maus, everything is bigger. The short 75 mounted alongside the main 128 originally served as anti-infantry and soft target weapon of choice. In War Thunder, these vehicle types are either not found on the battlefield or as latter only on certain maps. It comes without question that the 75mm should be used against AAA, trucks and SPAA. However, the HEAT shell can be used to harass the enemy, lure them out/in of cover, or just damage medium tank's sides (T-54 and M46 do not exceed 80mm of armour) tracks and even hull break some lightly armored vehicles such as the BMP 1

. In addition, the secondary cannon has a good reload rate of around 5 sec, thus it can be used to defeat light tanks and SPAA without wasting the precious 128 mm ammo for more heavily armoured targets.

General info

Survivability and armour

Armour type:

  • Rolled homogeneous armour
  • Cast homogeneous armour (Gun mantlet)
Armour Front Sides Rear Roof
Hull 200 mm (55°) Front glacis
200 mm (35°) Lower glacis
180 mm Top
100 mm Bottom
300 mm Weld joints
150 mm (36°) Top
150 mm (31°) Bottom
50 mm General area
100 mm Front roof
Turret 220 mm (3-53°)Turret front
240 mm Gun mantlet
200 mm (30°) 200 mm (15°) 60 mm

Notes:

  • Armour on the Maus is quite complex, and definitely does not end with the above-mentioned values
    • Gun mantlet is 240 mm thick and nicely rounded, right around both guns the armour is 300 mm thick
    • Tracks at the front are protected by 100+60 mm plates (100mm basic plate + attached tracks)
    • Behind the frontal upper plate on deck armour, there are many 60mm highly sloped plates of armour, protecting the engine vents and turret ring from HEAT/HE shells and some small-calibre fire
    • Frontal part of the belly is also 100 mm thick (Would be probably good against mines/other explosives), the rest is 50mm
    • Deck armour in front of these plates is also strengthened to an impressive 100 mm
    • Side armour is split to two parts, top with 180 mm and bottom with 100 mm + tracks
    • Even inside the tank there is armour - there are many 20 mm plates inside the tank, separating crew compartments from various modules, and partially protecting the interior from shrapnel that penetrated the tank from other areas
      • One plate is at the rear of the tank, between the enormous transmission and the fighting compartment
      • Second one is more to the front, separating fighting compartment from the middle-mounted Engine and its radiators
      • Third is in the front between the driver's compartment and the Engine
      • Around the driver there are many more 20 mm plates, adding some protection to Fuel Tanks located there

Mobility

Mobility characteristic
Weight (tons) Add-on Armor
weight (tons)
Max speed (km/h)
188.0 N/A 22 (AB)
20.7 (RB/SB)
Engine power (horsepower)
Mode Stock Upgraded
Arcade 1,549 ____
Realistic/Simulator 1,061 ____
Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
Mode Stock Upgraded
Arcade 8.24 __.__
Realistic/Simulator 5.64 __.__

Armaments

Main armament

Main article: KwK 44 (128 mm)
128 mm KwK 44
Capacity Vertical
guidance
Horizontal
guidance
Stabilizer
68 -7°/+23° ±180° N/A
Turret rotation speed (°/s)
Mode Stock Upgraded Prior + Full crew Prior + Expert qualif. Prior + Ace qualif.
Arcade 4.50 _.__ _.__ _.__ _.__
Realistic 4.50 _.__ _.__ _.__ _.__
Reloading rate (seconds)
Stock Prior + Full crew Prior + Expert qualif. Prior + Ace qualif.
23.6 _.__ _.__ _.__
Ammunition
Penetration statistics
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Penetration in mm @ 90°
10m 100m 500m 1000m 1500m 2000m
PzGr APC 227 224 213 200 188 176
PzGr 43 APCBC 267 265 253 238 224 211
Sprgr. L/4,5 HE 45 45 44 43 41 40
Shell details
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Velocity
in m/s
Projectile
Mass in kg
Fuse delay

in m:

Fuse sensitivity

in mm:

Explosive Mass in g
(TNT equivalent):
Normalization At 30°
from horizontal:
Ricochet:
0% 50% 100%
PzGr APC 930 28 0.8 28 786.5 -1° 48° 63° 71°
PzGr 43 APCBC 940 28 0.8 28 786.5 +4° 48° 63° 71°
Sprgr. L/4,5 HE 750 28 0.1 0.5 3,700 +0° 79° 80° 81°
Ammo racks
Ammo racks for the Maus.
Ammo
parts
Full
ammo
1st
rack empty
2nd
rack empty
3rd
rack empty
4th
rack empty
5th
rack empty
6th
rack empty
7th
rack empty
8th
rack empty
9th
rack empty
10th
rack empty
Visual
discrepancy
Projectiles
Propellants
68
68
62 (+6)
62 (+6)
55 (+13)
55 (+13)
50 (+18)
50 (+18)
45 (+23)
45 (+23)
39 (+29)
39 (+29)
33 (+35)
33 (+35)
25 (+43)
25 (+43)
17 (+51)
17 (+51)
(+59)
(+59)
(+67)
(+67)
no

Turret empty: 45 (+23)

Additional armament

Main article: KwK 44 (75 mm)
75 mm KwK 44
Coaxial mount
Capacity Vertical
guidance
Horizontal
guidance
Stabilizer
68 N/A N/A N/A
Turret rotation speed (°/s)
Mode Stock Upgraded Prior + Full crew Prior + Expert qualif. Prior + Ace qualif.
Arcade 11.30 _.__ _.__ _.__ _.__
Realistic 11.30 _.__ _.__ _.__ _.__
Reloading rate (seconds)
Stock Prior + Full crew Prior + Expert qualif. Prior + Ace qualif.
4.80 _.__ _.__ _.__
Ammunition
Penetration statistics
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Penetration in mm @ 90°
10m 100m 500m 1000m 1500m 2000m
Hl.Gr. 38B HEAT 80 80 80 80 80 80
Hl.Gr. 38C HEAT 100 100 100 100 100 100
Sprgr. 34 HE 10 10 10 10 10 10
Shell details
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Velocity
in m/s
Projectile
Mass in kg
Fuse delay

in m:

Fuse sensitivity

in mm:

Explosive Mass in g
(TNT equivalent):
Normalization At 30°
from horizontal:
Ricochet:
0% 50% 100%
Hl.Gr. 38B HEAT 450 4.4 0.0 0.1 872.1 +0° 62° 69° 73°
Hl.Gr. 38C HEAT 450 4.8 0.0 0.1 875.5 +0° 62° 69° 73°
Sprgr. 34 HE 570 5.7 0.1 0.1 715 +0° 79° 80° 81°
Smoke characteristic
Ammunition Velocity
in m/s
Projectile
Mass in kg
Screen radius
in m
Screen time
in s
Screen hold time
in s:
Explosive Mass in g
(TNT equivalent):
K.Gr.Rot Nb. 423 6.8 13 5 20 50
Ammo racks
Full
ammo
1st
rack empty
2nd
rack empty
3rd
rack empty
4th
rack empty
Visual
discrepancy
100 76 (+24) 51 (+49) 26 (+74) (+99) no

Turret empty: 76 (+24)

Machine guns

Main article: MG 34 (7.92 mm)
7.92 mm MG 34
Coaxial mount
Capacity (Belt capacity) Fire rate
(shots/minute)
Vertical
guidance
Horizontal
guidance
1,000 (150) 900 N/A N/A

Usage in the battles

Versus heavy tanks, the Maus has all the advantages. While slower it can make up for this in close combat thanks to the good turn rate of both tracks and turret. Just quickly angle the Maus (both turret and hull!) and turn it almost invincible heat shells can still penetrate the angled turret, be advised. Try angling the front drive wheel at the enemy tank and turn the turret so that the armour is at ~45 degrees to the enemy fire. The tanks that posses a threat are the m103, the m48, the chinese t62, and especially the bmp,s and the object 120 basically every tank that has got heatfs, atgm, and the apdsfs that can penetrate more than 320mm of armor

Versus medium tanks, the Panzerkampfwagen VIII can fight in CQC with its great turret rotation speed, but at the cost of exposing the side armour and getting flanked, this should be kept as one's last and or only option. Distance is the ally of the Maus, which should be easy to do considering that the top speed is 20 kph.

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Most armoured tank of the game
  • Nigh invincible, if angled properly
  • Capable of soaking a large amount of damage
  • Powerful 128 mm cannon
  • Nigh invulnerable to arty and large HE shells
  • Very resilient to bombs and rockets
  • Access to smoke grenades
  • Surprisingly good off-road manoeuvrability
  • Secondary 75 mm coaxial cannon to use when 128 mm is not necessary
  • Turns pretty well in high gear movement or in neutral steer
  • Very difficult to immobilize
  • Turret sides are strong as, if not stronger than, the front of the turret

Cons:

  • Very slow, though still faster than the T28/95
  • Takes a while to reach the action zone
  • Requires good teamwork to perform adequately
  • Slow turret rotation
  • The sides of the Maus is littered with ammo racks
  • Very loud engine, players with 3D sound will be able to locate the Maus just by listening for the engine
  • Vulnerable at all ranges to end rank American and Russian tanks using Sabot and HEAT rounds
  • Extremely heavy, makes towing near impossible unless it is another Maus
  • Vulnerable to 152 mm HE
  • Resilient to bombs, but a large bomb will still have a high chance to destroy the Maus
  • Optics have little zoom capability, difficult hitting long range targets
  • Big target for ATGM

History

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Development

This monster of a tank started development in 1942 on the suggestion of Ferdinand Porsche to Hitler, which was approved. The first prototype was to be completed by 1943 and the project vehicle was designated the Mammut (Mammoth). The name changed in December 1942 to Mäuschen (Little Mouse), then once more to the Maus (Mouse) in February 1943, which stayed as its designation (and perhaps proving that Germany does have a sense of humour).

The prototype used Ferdinand's "electric transmission" that was previously used on the rejected Tiger(P), the vehicle would be powered by an MB 517 diesel engine. The Maus has a suspension design with 24 wheels on each side, 2 per bogie with two bogies side by side and six bogies lining up from front and back. The armour was perhaps the most defining feature at 220 mm thick at the hull front, the sides and rear were 190 mm thick. The turret was even thicker at 240 mm on the front and 200 mm on the sides and rear. The vehicle was to also have a 128 mm KwK 44 main gun with a 75 mm KwK 44 gun as a coaxial. The overwhelming design was approximated to weight 100 tons.

The production plan was to have the prototype completed by mid-1943 and for 10 vehicles per month after the prototype delivery. Work would be divided between Krupp and Alkett for the production of the machine. The wooden model of the tank was presented on May 1943 to Hitler. It was then approved for production and 150 of them were to be built. With the final design finished, it was estimated to weight 188 tons now. Though Hitler and his peers saw it with much favour, Heinz Guderian criticised the Maus design because there was a lack of machine guns, thus it was extremely vulnerable to infantry attacks at close-quarters for the same reason as the Ferdinand tank destroyer. The anti-infantry problem was solved with the addition of a coaxial machine gun and a Nahverteidigungswaffe dischargers, firing smoke or high-explosive shells in its surrounding area, installed on the turret.

Production and cancellation

Two prototypes of the Maus were made in 1943 and 1944. The first one, called V1 was turretless and assembled by Alkett in December 1943, it was fitted with a mock turret that helped finalise the turret design in 1944. Here they determine the Maus was definitely too heavy for any bridges in existence so the Maus would ford rivers with a snorkel. The second prototype called V2 by Alkett again had the first produced Maus turret attached with the 128 mm gun, coaxial 75 mm gun, and coaxial machine gun. In July 1944, Krupp was producing four more hulls, but these were scrapped and the whole project stopped on August 1944, though tests with the V2 continued. The weight of the tank meant that the power-to-weight ratio was extremely poor, resulting in the Maus' ideal speed of about 8 miles per hour maximum in ideal conditions.

However, by 1944, the Red Army was advancing deeper and deeper into what was previously German-controlled territory. The vision that the Red Army might capture the testing grounds of the Maus prototypes and the prototypes themselves seem to come closer to reality. The Germans were forced to destroy the prototypes to prevent their capture by the Soviets, placing charges onto the V2 prototype (the V1 was only a hull so it wasn't combat-effective). The second prototype had the entire hull damaged as there was ammunition still in the tank when the charges went off, but the turret was mostly intact. The Russians captured the damaged prototypes and held them until the end of the war. After World War II, the Soviet Commander of Armoured and Mechanized troops ordered for the V1 hull to be attached with the turret from the V2 prototype. They had to use six Sd.Kfz. 9, the largest half-track vehicles produced by Germany, to move the 55-ton turret to the hull. The fixed prototype was sent back to the Soviet Union for testing and arrive on May 4, 1946. Once this is done, the prototype was sent to Kubinka Tank museum where it lays today on display for the public.

In-game description

"An experimental super-heavy tank built in Germany towards the end of the war. The project was developed by Ferdinand Porsche. The first tank was assembled at the Alkett factory in Berlin on August 1, 1943.

The first trial run of the Type 205/1 tank was conducted on December 24, 1943. The turret still wasn’t ready, so a load equal to the weight of the turret was placed on top of the tank. The prototype turned out to be quite maneuverable once it was able to leave the assembly area, where it had been rather cramped. According to those who had the opportunity to drive the tank, the Maus was easier to drive than the Pz.Kpfw. IV.

In November, 1943 a 44 caliber, 128mm KwK 44 cannon was built that was intended for the tank. The cannon’s designation was later changed to 12.8 cm KwK 82. The weapon was tested at the Meppen training ground. The turret was installed on the 205/1 prototype on July 6, 1944, and on October 3, 1944 the armament was installed and the fully-outfitted tank was tested at the training ground in Kummersdorf.

Both prototypes were tested in Kummersdorf, but no reliable information on these tests is available. Whether or not experimental firing was conducted is also unknown.

Toward the end of the war, bodies and turrets had begun to be produced in addition to the prototypes that had been built.

As the Soviet troops were approaching in 1945 both prototypes were blown up. Soviet specialists were able to reconstruct one Maus from the wreckage. This rebuilt tank was delivered to the training ground in Kubinka in 1946, where various tests were performed.

The Panzerkampfwagen Maus can currently be viewed on display at the tank museum in Kubinka."

Media

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History

Gameplay

Read also

[Devblog] Panzerkampfwagen VIII «Maus»
Official War Thunder forum article: [Historical] Panzerkampfwagen VIII "Maus", Part I, Part II, and Part III

Sources

Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:

  • topic on the official game forum;
  • other literature.


Germany heavy tanks
Tiger 1 (Henschel)  Tiger H1 · Tiger E · ␠Tiger
Tiger 1 (Porsche)  VK 45.01 (P) · Pz.Bef.Wg.VI P
Tiger 2  Tiger II (P) · Tiger II (H) · Tiger II (H) Sla.16 · Tiger II (10.5 cm Kw.K)
Super heavy tanks  Maus · E-100
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USSR  ▀KV-IB · ▀KW I C 756 (r) · ▀KW II 754 (r)