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=== Available shells ===
 
=== Available shells ===
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The NS-23 has the following shells available :
 
The NS-23 has the following shells available :
  
 
* '''AP-I'''   
 
* '''AP-I'''   
  
Armor piercing incendiary shells with 29mm penetration, shell velocity: ca 610 m/s
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Armor piercing incendiary shells with 29 mm penetration, shell velocity: ~610 m/s
  
 
* '''FI-T'''     
 
* '''FI-T'''     
  
Fragmentation incendiary tracer shells with ca 3mm penetration, shell velocity ca 690 m/s
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Fragmentation incendiary tracer shells with ~3 mm penetration, shell velocity: ~690 m/s
  
 
The following belts are available:  
 
The following belts are available:  
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* '''Stealth belts'''                  (AP-I, AP-I, AP-I, AP-I)
 
* '''Stealth belts'''                  (AP-I, AP-I, AP-I, AP-I)
  
It's recommended to use Air targets belts as the FI-T shells are way more effective against planes than the AP-I shells. Although if one haven't researched the "Offensive 23mm" modification yet the default belts will usually get the job done just fine. The Ground target belts or Stealth belts are well suited for top down approaches on tanks because of the 29mm penetration on the AP-I shells which makes it possible to penetrate most tanks engine deck from a top down approach. Bear in mind that the AP-I shells doesn't have any tracer elements so it can be tricky to hit sometimes.
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It's recommended to use Air targets belts as the FI-T shells are way more effective against planes than the AP-I shells. Although if one haven't researched the "Offensive 23mm" modification yet, the default belts will usually get the job done just fine. The Ground target belts or Stealth belts are well suited for top-down approaches on tanks because of the 29 mm penetration on the AP-I shells, which makes it possible to penetrate most tanks engine deck from a top-down approach. Bear in mind that the AP-I shells doesn't have any tracer elements so it can be tricky to hit sometimes.
  
 
=== Comparison with analogues ===
 
=== Comparison with analogues ===
The 23mm shells weight approximately 200gr e.a compared to the 20mm [[ShVAK (20 mm)|ShVAK]]-shells that weights only 90 gr e.a so even though the ShVAK offers a higher fire rate the damage of the NS-23 can make up for the loss of fire rate.  
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The 23mm shells weight approximately 200 gram each compared to the 20 mm [[ShVAK (20 mm)|ShVAK]]-shells that weights only 90 gr e.a so even though the ShVAK offers a higher fire rate the damage of the NS-23 can make up for the loss of fire rate.  
  
 
The NS-23 is identical to the [[NR-23 (23 mm)|NR-23]] except for the lower fire rate. The NS-23 has a fire rate of ca 600 rpm whereas the [[NR-23 (23 mm)|NR-23]] has a 50% higher fire rate of 900 rpm, but with that comes higher ammo consumption and recoil.
 
The NS-23 is identical to the [[NR-23 (23 mm)|NR-23]] except for the lower fire rate. The NS-23 has a fire rate of ca 600 rpm whereas the [[NR-23 (23 mm)|NR-23]] has a 50% higher fire rate of 900 rpm, but with that comes higher ammo consumption and recoil.
  
 
== Usage in battles ==
 
== Usage in battles ==
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Due to the high damage of the 23mm cannons firing short bursts is usually enough because only a few rounds need to connect to eliminate an enemy fighter, this also saves ammo which is usually in short supply for the planes using the NS-23s. For taking down bombers one should, as with most guns, aim for critical points to avoid wasting ammo and securing a quick kill.
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Due to the high damage of the 23 mm cannons, firing short bursts is usually enough because only a few rounds need to connect to eliminate an enemy fighter, this also saves ammo which is usually in short supply for the planes using the NS-23s. For taking down bombers one should, as with most guns, aim for critical points to avoid wasting ammo and down the plane quickly.
  
Because the shells have a lower velocity than most guns (eg [[ShVAK (20 mm)|ShVAK]] having around 800-900m/s compared to NS-23 600-700 m/s) a bit more lead must be used for the shells to connect. This is more of a problem in jet matches because the lead can be hard to approximate when targets are moving fast. Though this is likely not going to be a huge problem because of the tracer rich ammo belts, especially when going against slower propeller planes.
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Because the shells have a lower velocity than most guns (e.g. [[ShVAK (20 mm)|ShVAK]] having around 800-900 m/s compared to NS-23 600-700 m/s), a bit more lead must be used for the shells to connect. This is more of a problem in jet matches because the lead can be hard to approximate when targets are moving fast. Though this is likely not going to be a huge problem because of the tracer rich ammo belts, especially when going against slower propeller planes.
  
 
=== Pros and cons ===
 
=== Pros and cons ===
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* Lower fire rate can help conserve ammo and lower the recoil
 
* Lower fire rate can help conserve ammo and lower the recoil
* High damage shells, no need to shoot for longer durations
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* High damage shells, no need to shoot for longer duration
 
* High fire rate for gun of caliber
 
* High fire rate for gun of caliber
* Has enough penetration for top down attacks on most tanks
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* Has enough penetration for top-down attacks on most tanks
  
 
'''Cons:'''
 
'''Cons:'''
  
 
* Low velocity
 
* Low velocity
* Low rate of fire, planes can sometimes "pass between the shells" during continuous fire
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* Low overall rate of fire, planes can sometimes "pass between the shells" during continuous fire
 
* No stealth belts for air targets (if one doesn't want to use AP-I shells)
 
* No stealth belts for air targets (if one doesn't want to use AP-I shells)
  
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== See also ==
 
== See also ==
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* [[ShVAK (20 mm)|ShVAK]]
 
* [[ShVAK (20 mm)|ShVAK]]

Revision as of 16:18, 3 May 2019

Description

The NS-23 is a 23 mm autocannon which can be found on some Russian props and jets.

Vehicles equipped with this weapon

Vehicles equipped with this weapon
Fighters  La-9 · La-11 · Yak-9P
(Modification) · Yak-9UT
Jet fighters  MiG-9 · MiG-15 · MiG-15bis ISh · Yak-15 · Yak-17
Attacker  IL-10 (1946)

General info

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Available shells

The NS-23 has the following shells available :

  • AP-I

Armor piercing incendiary shells with 29 mm penetration, shell velocity: ~610 m/s

  • FI-T

Fragmentation incendiary tracer shells with ~3 mm penetration, shell velocity: ~690 m/s

The following belts are available:

  • Default belts (AP-I, FI-T, AP-I, FI-T)
  • Ground target belts (AP-I, AP-I, AP-I, FI-T)
  • Air targets belts (FI-T, FI-T , FI-T, AP-I)
  • Stealth belts (AP-I, AP-I, AP-I, AP-I)

It's recommended to use Air targets belts as the FI-T shells are way more effective against planes than the AP-I shells. Although if one haven't researched the "Offensive 23mm" modification yet, the default belts will usually get the job done just fine. The Ground target belts or Stealth belts are well suited for top-down approaches on tanks because of the 29 mm penetration on the AP-I shells, which makes it possible to penetrate most tanks engine deck from a top-down approach. Bear in mind that the AP-I shells doesn't have any tracer elements so it can be tricky to hit sometimes.

Comparison with analogues

The 23mm shells weight approximately 200 gram each compared to the 20 mm ShVAK-shells that weights only 90 gr e.a so even though the ShVAK offers a higher fire rate the damage of the NS-23 can make up for the loss of fire rate.

The NS-23 is identical to the NR-23 except for the lower fire rate. The NS-23 has a fire rate of ca 600 rpm whereas the NR-23 has a 50% higher fire rate of 900 rpm, but with that comes higher ammo consumption and recoil.

Usage in battles

Due to the high damage of the 23 mm cannons, firing short bursts is usually enough because only a few rounds need to connect to eliminate an enemy fighter, this also saves ammo which is usually in short supply for the planes using the NS-23s. For taking down bombers one should, as with most guns, aim for critical points to avoid wasting ammo and down the plane quickly.

Because the shells have a lower velocity than most guns (e.g. ShVAK having around 800-900 m/s compared to NS-23 600-700 m/s), a bit more lead must be used for the shells to connect. This is more of a problem in jet matches because the lead can be hard to approximate when targets are moving fast. Though this is likely not going to be a huge problem because of the tracer rich ammo belts, especially when going against slower propeller planes.

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Lower fire rate can help conserve ammo and lower the recoil
  • High damage shells, no need to shoot for longer duration
  • High fire rate for gun of caliber
  • Has enough penetration for top-down attacks on most tanks

Cons:

  • Low velocity
  • Low overall rate of fire, planes can sometimes "pass between the shells" during continuous fire
  • No stealth belts for air targets (if one doesn't want to use AP-I shells)

History

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Media

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See also

External links

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USSR aircraft cannons
20 mm  B-20E · B-20M · B-20S · ShVAK
23 mm  GSh-6-23M · GSh-23L · NR-23 · NS-23 · NS-23K · PTB-23 · VYa-23
30 mm  2A42 · GSh-6-30 · GSh-30-1 · GSh-30-2 · GSh-30-2K · NR-30
37 mm  N-37 · N-37D · NS-37 · SH-37
45 mm  NS-45
  Foreign:
20 mm  Hispano Mk.II (Britain) · MG 151 (Germany)
37 mm  M4 (USA) · M10 (USA)