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[[File:65 mm 64 Ansaldo-Terni Mod.1939.jpg|thumb|x250px|Three single-mount '''65 mm/64 Ansaldo-Terni Mod.1939''' on [[RN Etna]]]]
 
== Description ==
 
== Description ==
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'''65 mm/64 Ansaldo-Terni Mod.1939''' is an Italian high-calibre, long-range anti-aircraft gun, combining an excellent rate of fire with great vertical guidance and high muzzle velocity.
  
 
=== Vehicles equipped with this weapon ===
 
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* {{Specs-Link|it_battleship_conte_di_cavour}}
 
* {{Specs-Link|it_cruiser_etna_class}}
 
* {{Specs-Link|it_cruiser_etna_class}}
  
 
== General info ==
 
== General info ==
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=== Available ammunition ===
 
=== Available ammunition ===
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{{:{{PAGENAME}}/Ammunition|65 mm HE-TF Contro Aerea, 65 mm HE Dirompente}}
  
 
=== Comparison with analogues ===
 
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|-
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! colspan="2" rowspan="2" |Cannon
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! rowspan="2" |Sample Ship
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! rowspan="2" |Ammo
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! rowspan="2" |Calibre<br>(mm)
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! rowspan="2" |Muzzle Velocity<br>(m/s)
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! rowspan="2" |Sustained rate of fire<br>(rounds/min)
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! colspan="2" |Targeting speed<br>(°/s)
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! rowspan="2" |TNT Equivalent<br>(kg)
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! colspan="3" |Penetration<br>@ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
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|-
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!Horizontal!!Vertical!!1,000 m!!5,000 m!!10,000 m
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|-
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|[[File:Italy flag.png|link=|25x25px]]
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| 65 mm/64 Ansaldo-Terni Mod.1939
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| [[RN Etna]] || HE-TF || 65 || 950 || 30 || 15 || 22 || 0.45 || 8 || 8 || 8
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|-
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|[[File:USA flag.png|link=|25x25px]]
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| [[3 inch/23 Mk.4 (76 mm)]]
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| [[USS Barker]] || HE-TF || 76 || 503 || 9 || 8.5 || 13 || 0.34 || 7 || 7 || 7
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|-
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|[[File:USA flag.png|link=|25x25px]]
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| [[3-inch Mk.34 (76 mm)]]
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| [[USS Roanoke]] || HE-VT || 76 || 823 || 6 || 20 || 26 || 0.3528 || 7 || 7 || 7
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|-
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|[[File:Germany flag.png|link=|25x25px]]
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| [[88 mm/45 SK L/45 (88 mm)]]
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| [[Drache]] || HEF-I || 88 || 823 || 14 || 8.5 || 8.5 || 0.698 || 11 || 11 || 11
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|[[File:USSR flag.png|link=|25x25px]]
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| [[39-K (76 mm)]]
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| [[Tashkent]] || HE-TF || 76 || 810 || 20 || 18 || 11 || 0.182 || 5 || 5 || 5
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|[[File:USSR flag.png|link=|25x25px]]
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| [[34-K (76 mm)]]
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| [[Moskva]] || HE-TF || 76 || 810 || 27 || 12 || 8 || 0.182 || 5 || 5 || 5
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|-
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|[[File:Japan flag.png|link=|25x25px]]
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| [[Type 88 AA (75 mm)]]
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| [[Type 5]] || HE-TF || 75 || 720 || 20 || 21 || 20 || 0.42 || 7 || 7 || 7
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|-
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|[[File:Japan flag.png|link=|25x25px]]
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| [[8 cm/60 Type 98 (76 mm)]]
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| [[IJN Agano]] || HE-TF || 76 || 902 || 25 || 18 || 16 || 0.399 || 7 || 7 || 7
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|[[File:France flag.png|link=|25x25px]]
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| [[75 mm/50 model 1922 (75 mm)]]
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| [[Primauguet]] || HE || 75 || 850 || 15 || 19 || 18 || 0.45 || 8 || 8 || 8
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|}
  
 
== Usage in battles ==
 
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[[File:65 mm 64 Ansaldo-Terni Mod.1939 on Etna.jpg|thumb|'''65 mm/64 Ansaldo-Terni Mod.1939''' engaging enemy airplane]]
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65 mm/64 Ansaldo-Terni Mod.1939 is an exceptional high-calibre anti-air gun. With 80° vertical guidance, it can intercept enemy dive bombers, while its high rate of fire (one shell every 2 seconds) increases the chance to hit the enemy. Being such a high calibre gun, AI will engage enemy airplanes from a very long distance, passively discouraging enemies from even approaching your vessel.
  
 
=== Pros and cons ===
 
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* Rate of fire
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* Muzzle velocity
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* Explosive filler
  
 
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* No access to HE-VT shells
  
 
== History ==
 
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65 mm was the calibre of choice for the new semi-automatic cannon of choice for the Italian vessels introduced during the WW2. The design of the 65 mm/64 originated from the collaboration between Ansaldo and Tenri, which begun in 1939 and continued until armistice in 1943, when the gun was cancelled before entering the mass production.
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Initial prototypes had a gun length of 56 calibres, but in pursuit of performance, the barrel was extended to 62 and eventually 64 calibres. The challenges with development and pursuit for perfection at the expense of time and budget lead to eventual suggestion being put forward to eliminate the autoloading mechanism.
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The first vessels planned to use the gun were the [[RN Attilio Regolo|Capitani Romani-class]] cruisers, but due to delays the guns were replaced by readily-available [[37 mm/54 Breda Mod.39 (37 mm)|37 mm/54]]. The first production-grade 65 mm/64 were completed in Autumn 1943 and mounted on the RN Aquila, with further production stock being envisioned for [[RN Etna]], but never actually delivered to the CRDA shipyard in Trieste.
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To this date, a single 65 mm/64 survived in the Museo tecnico navale in La Spezia, it came from the Aquila carrier.
  
 
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* [https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/65/64_Mod._1939 <nowiki>[Italian Wikipedia]</nowiki> 65/64 Mod. 1939]
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* [http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNIT_65mm-64_m1939.php <nowiki>[NavWeaps]</nowiki> 65 mm/64 (2.56") Model 1939]
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* The Weapons of the Italian Ships (Le armi delle Navi Italiane) by Erminio Bagnasco, page 71
  
 
{{Italy naval cannons}}
 
{{Italy naval cannons}}
  
 
[[Category:Naval cannons]]
 
[[Category:Naval cannons]]

Latest revision as of 21:09, 9 April 2024

Three single-mount 65 mm/64 Ansaldo-Terni Mod.1939 on RN Etna

Description

65 mm/64 Ansaldo-Terni Mod.1939 is an Italian high-calibre, long-range anti-aircraft gun, combining an excellent rate of fire with great vertical guidance and high muzzle velocity.

Vehicles equipped with this weapon

General info

Available ammunition

Penetration statistics
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Penetration @ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
100 m 1,000 m 2,000 m 3,000 m 4,000 m 5,000 m
HE-TF Contro Aerea HE-TF 8 8 8 8 8 8
HE Dirompente HE 8 8 8 8 8 8
Shell details
Ammunition Type of
warhead
Velocity
(m/s)
Projectile
mass (kg)
Fuse delay
(m)
Fuse sensitivity
(mm)
Explosive mass
(TNT equivalent) (g)
Ricochet
0% 50% 100%
HE-TF Contro Aerea HE-TF 950 4.08 0 0.1 450 79° 80° 81°
HE Dirompente HE 950 4.08 0 0.1 450 79° 80° 81°

Comparison with analogues

Cannon Sample Ship Ammo Calibre
(mm)
Muzzle Velocity
(m/s)
Sustained rate of fire
(rounds/min)
Targeting speed
(°/s)
TNT Equivalent
(kg)
Penetration
@ 0° Angle of Attack (mm)
Horizontal Vertical 1,000 m 5,000 m 10,000 m
Italy flag.png 65 mm/64 Ansaldo-Terni Mod.1939 RN Etna HE-TF 65 950 30 15 22 0.45 8 8 8
USA flag.png 3 inch/23 Mk.4 (76 mm) USS Barker HE-TF 76 503 9 8.5 13 0.34 7 7 7
USA flag.png 3-inch Mk.34 (76 mm) USS Roanoke HE-VT 76 823 6 20 26 0.3528 7 7 7
Germany flag.png 88 mm/45 SK L/45 (88 mm) Drache HEF-I 88 823 14 8.5 8.5 0.698 11 11 11
USSR flag.png 39-K (76 mm) Tashkent HE-TF 76 810 20 18 11 0.182 5 5 5
USSR flag.png 34-K (76 mm) Moskva HE-TF 76 810 27 12 8 0.182 5 5 5
Japan flag.png Type 88 AA (75 mm) Type 5 HE-TF 75 720 20 21 20 0.42 7 7 7
Japan flag.png 8 cm/60 Type 98 (76 mm) IJN Agano HE-TF 76 902 25 18 16 0.399 7 7 7
France flag.png 75 mm/50 model 1922 (75 mm) Primauguet HE 75 850 15 19 18 0.45 8 8 8

Usage in battles

65 mm/64 Ansaldo-Terni Mod.1939 engaging enemy airplane

65 mm/64 Ansaldo-Terni Mod.1939 is an exceptional high-calibre anti-air gun. With 80° vertical guidance, it can intercept enemy dive bombers, while its high rate of fire (one shell every 2 seconds) increases the chance to hit the enemy. Being such a high calibre gun, AI will engage enemy airplanes from a very long distance, passively discouraging enemies from even approaching your vessel.

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Rate of fire
  • Muzzle velocity
  • Explosive filler

Cons:

  • No access to HE-VT shells

History

65 mm was the calibre of choice for the new semi-automatic cannon of choice for the Italian vessels introduced during the WW2. The design of the 65 mm/64 originated from the collaboration between Ansaldo and Tenri, which begun in 1939 and continued until armistice in 1943, when the gun was cancelled before entering the mass production.

Initial prototypes had a gun length of 56 calibres, but in pursuit of performance, the barrel was extended to 62 and eventually 64 calibres. The challenges with development and pursuit for perfection at the expense of time and budget lead to eventual suggestion being put forward to eliminate the autoloading mechanism.

The first vessels planned to use the gun were the Capitani Romani-class cruisers, but due to delays the guns were replaced by readily-available 37 mm/54. The first production-grade 65 mm/64 were completed in Autumn 1943 and mounted on the RN Aquila, with further production stock being envisioned for RN Etna, but never actually delivered to the CRDA shipyard in Trieste.

To this date, a single 65 mm/64 survived in the Museo tecnico navale in La Spezia, it came from the Aquila carrier.

Media

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See also

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  • reference to the article about the variant of the cannon/machine gun;
  • references to approximate analogues by other nations and research trees.

External links


Italy naval cannons
20 mm  20 mm/65 Breda · 20 mm/70 Oerlikon 3S · 20 mm/70 Scotti-Isotta Fraschini mod.1939
37 mm  37 mm/54 Breda Mod.32 · 37 mm/54 Breda Mod.38 · 37 mm/54 Breda Mod.39
40 mm  40 mm/39 Vickers-Terni mod.1915/1917 · 40 mm/39 Vickers-Terni mod.1915/1917, Modif.1930 · 40 mm/70 Breda-Bofors type 107
65 mm  65 mm/64 Ansaldo-Terni Mod.1939
76 mm  76 mm/40 Armstrong mod.1897/1910 · 76 mm/40 Armstrong mod.1897/1912 · 76 mm/40 Ansaldo mod.1917 · 76 mm/45 Schneider mod.1911 · 76 mm/50 Vickers mod.1909 · 76 mm/62 OTO-Melara Compact · 76-mm/62 SMP 3
90 mm  90 mm/50 Ansaldo model 1939
100 mm  100 mm/47 O.T.O. Mod. 1928 · 100 mm/47 O.T.O. Mod. 1937
120 mm  120 mm/45 Canet-Schneider-Armstrong mod.1918-19 · 120 mm/50 Armstrong model 1909 · 120 mm/45 O.T.O. Mod. 1926 · 120 mm/50 Ansaldo mod.1926 · 120 mm/50 O.T.O. Mod.1936
135 mm  135 mm/45 O.T.O. Mod. 1937
152 mm  152 mm/45 Schneider mod.1911 · 152/53 mm Ansaldo mod.1926 · 152/53 mm O.T.O. Mod.1929
203 mm  203 mm/50 Ansaldo mod.1924 · 203 mm/53 Ansaldo mod.1927
305 mm  305 mm/46 Armstrong model 1909 · 305 mm/46 Vickers model 1909
320 mm  320 mm/44 OTO model 1934 · 320 mm/44 Ansaldo model 1936
  Foreign:
20 mm  2 cm/65 Flakvierling 38 (Germany) · 20 mm/70 Oerlikon Mk.II (USA)
40 mm  Bofors L/60 Mark 1 (USA) · Bofors L/60 Mark 3 (USA)
76 mm  76 mm/50 Mk.33 (USA)
127 mm  127 mm/38 Mk.12 (USA)