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== Description ==
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[[File:GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|420px|thumb|left]]
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} German self-propelled anti-aircraft gun {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.91 "Night Vision"]], replacing the [[Flakpanzer 341]] in the German tech tree.
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The {{PAGENAME}} is an average SPAAG which definitely has nothing to look for on the front line, however, there is a great advantage with its double cannon which becomes extremely dangerous for enemy aircraft which fly within range.
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The {{PAGENAME}} has sufficient penetrating power to destroy [[M18 GMC|M18]]s or other light armoured vehicles, however, one should rather concentrate on enemy aircraft. The reasoning behind this is because the turret is open from above and weakly armoured on the sides and is vulnerable to enemy aircraft fire and the .50 calibre machine guns on vehicles such as the [[M2HB (12.7 mm)|M2HB]] vehicle.
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== General info ==
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=== Survivability and armour ===
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The frontal hull armour (80 mm) is quite well protected against small-calibre weapons and [[M2HB (12.7 mm)|.50 caliber BMG]]s, the sides (30 mm) and rear (20 mm) are not as well protected.
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The turret is open at the top and has a rectangular recess in the right, frontal turret armour, because of the optics.
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In addition, the steel of the turret (25 mm) is very weakly armoured, as well as the hull roof (10-12 mm).
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Since the vehicle has a crew of five, it usually survives the first attack from enemy aircraft (because of the driver and the machine gunner(/radio operator) in the hull), as well as a shot into the turret.
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=== Mobility ===
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The vehicle does not have that great average speed, which means that the 39 km/h will be rare on the battlefield. Forget about trying to turn on the spot as this vehicle does not have neutral steering. Even worse is attempting to use the reverse gear (-7km/h) is extremely insufficient presenting an easy target if having to back out of a tight situation.
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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|-
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! colspan="3" | Mobility characteristic
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|-
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! Weight (tons)
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! Add-on armour<br>weight (tons)
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! Max speed (km/h)
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|-
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| rowspan="2" | 25.0 || rowspan="2" | N/A
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| 42 (AB)
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|-
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| 39 (RB/SB)
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|-
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! colspan="3" | Engine power (horsepower)
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|-
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! Mode !! Stock !! Upgraded
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|-
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| ''Arcade'' || 426 || ???
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|-
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| ''Realistic/Simulator'' || 265 || 300
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|-
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! colspan="3" | Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
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|-
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! Mode !! Stock !! Upgraded
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|-
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| ''Arcade'' || 17.04 || ??.??
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|-
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| ''Realistic/Simulator'' || 10.6 || 12.0
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|-
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|}
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== Armaments ==
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=== Main armament ===
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{{main|FlaK 44 (37 mm)}}
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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|-
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! colspan="6" | [[FlaK 44 (37 mm)|37 mm FlaK 44]]
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|-
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! colspan="3" | Capacity
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! Vertical<br>guidance
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! Horizontal<br>guidance
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! Stabilizer
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|-
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| colspan="3" | 1,000 || -10°/+87° || ±180° || N/A
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|-
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! colspan="6" | Turret rotation speed (°/s)
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|-
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! Mode
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! Stock
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! Upgraded
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! Prior +<br>Full crew
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! Prior +<br>Expert qualif.
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! Prior +<br>Ace qualif.
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|-
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| ''Arcade'' || 30.8 || ??.?? || ??.?? || ??.?? || ??.??
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|-
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| ''Realistic'' || 20.8 || ??.?? || ??.?? || ??.?? || 35.00
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|-
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! colspan="4" | Reloading rate (seconds)
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|-
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! Stock
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! Prior +<br>Full crew
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! Prior +<br>Expert qualif.
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! Prior +<br>Ace qualif.
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|-
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| 0.3 || ??.?? || ??.?? || 0.2
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|-
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|}
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==== Ammunition ====
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{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
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! colspan="8" | Penetration statistics
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|-
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! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
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! rowspan="2" | Type of<br>warhead
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! colspan="6" | '''Penetration @ 90° (mm)'''
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|-
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! 10 m !! 100 m !! 500 m !! 1,000 m !! 1,500 m !! 2,000 m
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|-
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| M.Gr.18 || FI-T || 4 || 4 || 4 || 4 || 4 || 4
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|-
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| PzGr || APHE || 46 || 43 || 31 || 21 || 14 || 9
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|-
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| Sprgr. 18 || FI-T || 3 || 3 || 3 || 3 || 3 || 3
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|-
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|}
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{| class="wikitable sortable" style="text-align:center" width="100%"
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! colspan="11" | Shell details
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|-
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! rowspan="2" data-sort-type="text" | Ammunition
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! rowspan="2" | Type of<br>warhead
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! rowspan="2" | Velocity<br>(m/s)
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! rowspan="2" | Projectile<br>Mass (kg)
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! rowspan="2" | Fuse delay<br>(m)
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! rowspan="2" | Fuse sensitivity<br>(mm)
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! rowspan="2" | Explosive Mass<br>(TNT equivalent) (g)
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! rowspan="2" | Normalisation at 30°<br>from horizontal
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! colspan="3" | Ricochet
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|-
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! 0% !! 50% !! 100%
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| M.Gr.18 || FI-T || 914 || 0.55 || 0.3 || 0.1 || 108 || ?.?° || ??° || ??° || ??°
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|-
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| PzGr || APHE || 770 || 0.69 || 1.2 || 9.0 || 22.1 || -1.0° || 47° || 60° || 65°
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|-
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| Sprgr. 18 || FI-T || 820 || 0.62 || 0.3 || 0.1 || 49.3 || ?.?° || ??° || ??° || ??°
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|-
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|}
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==== [[Ammo racks]] ====
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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|-
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! Full<br>ammo
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! 1st<br>rack empty
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! 2nd<br>rack empty
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! 3rd<br>rack empty
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! 4th<br>rack empty
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! 5th<br>rack empty
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! Visual<br>discrepancy
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|-
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| '''1,000''' || 75 ''(+50)'' || 55 ''(+70)'' || 25 ''(+100)'' || 5 ''(+120)'' || 0 ''(+125)'' || ??
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|-
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|}
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[[File:Ammo racks of Ostwind II.jpg|thumb|335x335px|[[Ammo racks]] of Ostwind II]]
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==== [[Optics]] ====
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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! colspan="3" | {{PAGENAME}} Optics
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|-
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!
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! Default magnification
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! Maximum magnification
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|-
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! Main Gun optics
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| X2.1 || X3.7
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|-
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! Comparable optics
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| colspan="2" | ???
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|-
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|}
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=== Machine guns ===
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{{main|MG 34 (7.92 mm)}}
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center"
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|-
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! colspan="4" | [[MG 34 (7.92 mm)|7.92 mm MG 34]]
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|-
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! colspan="4" | '' mount''
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|-
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! Capacity<br>(Belt capacity)
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! Fire rate<br>(shots/minute)
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! Vertical<br>guidance
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! Horizontal<br>guidance
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|-
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| 1,800 (150) || 900 || N/A || N/A
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|-
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|}
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== Usage in battles ==
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;Realistic Battles
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The {{PAGENAME}} should be held in reserve towards the end of the game when there tends to be a significant amount of enemy aircraft flying. It is best to avoid the front lines or beating feet toward the enemy tanks as the {{PAGENAME}} tends to be an easy target for a majority of the other tanks in the game.
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If your own team is about to lose or it gets very exciting towards the end and there are no many enemies left alive, you can place your {{PAGENAME}} inside an allied capture-point to defend it from enemy light tanks. Due to the location, it is more central to the battlefield and presents a difficult challenge for enemy aircraft to attempt to fly over.
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=== Modules ===
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{| class="wikitable"
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! Tier
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! colspan="2" |Mobility
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! Protection
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! colspan="2" |Firepower
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|-
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| I
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| Tracks
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|
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| Parts
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| Sprgr. 18
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| Horizontal Drive
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|-
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| II
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| Suspension
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| Brake System
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| FPE
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| PzGr
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| Adjustment of Fire
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|-
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| III
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| Filters
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|
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| Crew Replenishment
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| M.Gr.18
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| Elevation Mechanism
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|-
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| IV
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| Transmission
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| Engine
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|
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| Artillery Support
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|
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|-
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=== Pros and cons ===
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'''Pros:'''
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* 2 x 3.7 cm FlaK 44 cannons
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* Does not need to reload until it is completely out of ammunition
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* Enough penetration to destroy enemy light armoured vehicles
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'''Cons:'''
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* Built on Panzer IV chassis and is a contemporary of it
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* Quite slow average speed
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* Inadequate penetration against many enemy vehicles (best against aircraft)
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== History ==
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The Ostwind II was a development of the [[Ostwind]].  First conceived as early as October 1943, the Ostwind II saw the single 3.7 cm FLaK 43 replaced by a twinned 3.7 cm FLaK Zwilling 44 built by the ''Gustloff-Werke'' in Suhl.  One single prototype was delivered to the ''Panzerflak-Ersatz und Ausbildungsabteilung Ohrsdurf/Thühringen'' in January of 1945 for evaluation purposes, but due to the rapid events of the war it was never taken into production.
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== Media ==
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== See also ==
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* [[Ostwind]] - Predecessor with a single 37 mm FlaK 43 autocannon.
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* [[Flakpanzer 341]] - Gift vehicle that the Ostwind II substituted in the main tech tree.
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== External links ==
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* [[wt:en/news/6317-development-changes-and-optimization-in-the-german-tech-tree-en|[Development<nowiki>]</nowiki> Changes and optimization in the German tech-tree]]
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{{Germany anti-aircraft vehicles}}

Revision as of 11:58, 1 November 2019

Rank VI USSR | Premium | Golden Eagles
Su-25K Pack
Ostwind II
germ_flakpanzer_iv_ostwind_2.png
Ostwind II
Germany flag.png Germany
IV Rank
Battle rating:
AB RB SB
5.7 5.3 5.3
Class:
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Description

GarageImage Ostwind II.jpg


The Flakpanzer IV Ostwind II is a rank IV German self-propelled anti-aircraft gun with a battle rating of 5.7 (AB) and 5.3 (RB/SB). It was introduced in Update 1.91 "Night Vision", replacing the Flakpanzer 341 in the German tech tree.

The Ostwind II is an average SPAAG which definitely has nothing to look for on the front line, however, there is a great advantage with its double cannon which becomes extremely dangerous for enemy aircraft which fly within range.

The Ostwind II has sufficient penetrating power to destroy M18s or other light armoured vehicles, however, one should rather concentrate on enemy aircraft. The reasoning behind this is because the turret is open from above and weakly armoured on the sides and is vulnerable to enemy aircraft fire and the .50 calibre machine guns on vehicles such as the M2HB vehicle.

General info

Survivability and armour

The frontal hull armour (80 mm) is quite well protected against small-calibre weapons and .50 caliber BMGs, the sides (30 mm) and rear (20 mm) are not as well protected.

The turret is open at the top and has a rectangular recess in the right, frontal turret armour, because of the optics.

In addition, the steel of the turret (25 mm) is very weakly armoured, as well as the hull roof (10-12 mm).

Since the vehicle has a crew of five, it usually survives the first attack from enemy aircraft (because of the driver and the machine gunner(/radio operator) in the hull), as well as a shot into the turret.

Mobility

The vehicle does not have that great average speed, which means that the 39 km/h will be rare on the battlefield. Forget about trying to turn on the spot as this vehicle does not have neutral steering. Even worse is attempting to use the reverse gear (-7km/h) is extremely insufficient presenting an easy target if having to back out of a tight situation.

Mobility characteristic
Weight (tons) Add-on armour
weight (tons) 		Max speed (km/h)
25.0 N/A 42 (AB)
39 (RB/SB)
Engine power (horsepower)
Mode Stock Upgraded
Arcade 426  ???
Realistic/Simulator 265 300
Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
Mode Stock Upgraded
Arcade 17.04  ??.??
Realistic/Simulator 10.6 12.0

Armaments

Main armament

Main article: FlaK 44 (37 mm)
37 mm FlaK 44
Capacity Vertical
guidance 		Horizontal
guidance 		Stabilizer
1,000 -10°/+87° ±180° N/A
Turret rotation speed (°/s)
Mode Stock Upgraded Prior +
Full crew 		Prior +
Expert qualif. 		Prior +
Ace qualif.
Arcade 30.8  ??.??  ??.??  ??.??  ??.??
Realistic 20.8  ??.??  ??.??  ??.?? 35.00
Reloading rate (seconds)
Stock Prior +
Full crew 		Prior +
Expert qualif. 		Prior +
Ace qualif.
0.3  ??.??  ??.?? 0.2

Ammunition

Penetration statistics
Ammunition Type of
warhead 		Penetration @ 90° (mm)
10 m 100 m 500 m 1,000 m 1,500 m 2,000 m
M.Gr.18 FI-T 4 4 4 4 4 4
PzGr APHE 46 43 31 21 14 9
Sprgr. 18 FI-T 3 3 3 3 3 3
Shell details
Ammunition Type of
warhead 		Velocity
(m/s) 		Projectile
Mass (kg) 		Fuse delay
(m) 		Fuse sensitivity
(mm) 		Explosive Mass
(TNT equivalent) (g) 		Normalisation at 30°
from horizontal 		Ricochet
0% 50% 100%
M.Gr.18 FI-T 914 0.55 0.3 0.1 108  ?.?°  ??°  ??°  ??°
PzGr APHE 770 0.69 1.2 9.0 22.1 -1.0° 47° 60° 65°
Sprgr. 18 FI-T 820 0.62 0.3 0.1 49.3  ?.?°  ??°  ??°  ??°

Ammo racks

Full
ammo 		1st
rack empty 		2nd
rack empty 		3rd
rack empty 		4th
rack empty 		5th
rack empty 		Visual
discrepancy
1,000 75 (+50) 55 (+70) 25 (+100) 5 (+120) 0 (+125)  ??
File:Ammo racks of Ostwind II.jpg
Ammo racks of Ostwind II

Optics

Ostwind II Optics
Default magnification Maximum magnification
Main Gun optics X2.1 X3.7
Comparable optics  ???

Machine guns

Main article: MG 34 (7.92 mm)
7.92 mm MG 34
mount
Capacity
(Belt capacity) 		Fire rate
(shots/minute) 		Vertical
guidance 		Horizontal
guidance
1,800 (150) 900 N/A N/A

Usage in battles

Realistic Battles

The Ostwind II should be held in reserve towards the end of the game when there tends to be a significant amount of enemy aircraft flying. It is best to avoid the front lines or beating feet toward the enemy tanks as the Ostwind II tends to be an easy target for a majority of the other tanks in the game.

If your own team is about to lose or it gets very exciting towards the end and there are no many enemies left alive, you can place your Ostwind II inside an allied capture-point to defend it from enemy light tanks. Due to the location, it is more central to the battlefield and presents a difficult challenge for enemy aircraft to attempt to fly over.

Modules

Tier Mobility Protection Firepower
I Tracks Parts Sprgr. 18 Horizontal Drive
II Suspension Brake System FPE PzGr Adjustment of Fire
III Filters Crew Replenishment M.Gr.18 Elevation Mechanism
IV Transmission Engine Artillery Support

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • 2 x 3.7 cm FlaK 44 cannons
  • Does not need to reload until it is completely out of ammunition
  • Enough penetration to destroy enemy light armoured vehicles

Cons:

  • Built on Panzer IV chassis and is a contemporary of it
  • Quite slow average speed
  • Inadequate penetration against many enemy vehicles (best against aircraft)

History

The Ostwind II was a development of the Ostwind. First conceived as early as October 1943, the Ostwind II saw the single 3.7 cm FLaK 43 replaced by a twinned 3.7 cm FLaK Zwilling 44 built by the Gustloff-Werke in Suhl. One single prototype was delivered to the Panzerflak-Ersatz und Ausbildungsabteilung Ohrsdurf/Thühringen in January of 1945 for evaluation purposes, but due to the rapid events of the war it was never taken into production.

Media

Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.

See also

  • Ostwind - Predecessor with a single 37 mm FlaK 43 autocannon.
  • Flakpanzer 341 - Gift vehicle that the Ostwind II substituted in the main tech tree.

External links


Germany anti-aircraft vehicles
Wheeled  Sd.Kfz.222
Half-track  Sd.Kfz.251/21 · Sd.Kfz. 6/2
Flakpanzer IV  Wirbelwind · Ostwind · Ostwind II · Kugelblitz · Zerstörer 45
Other Flakpanzers  Flakpanzer I · Flakpanzer 38 · Flakpanzer 341
Wiesel AWC  Wiesel 1A4 · Ozelot
Radar SPAAG  Gepard · Gepard 1A2
Missile SPAA  FlaRakPz 1 · FlaRakRad

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