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{{About
 
| about = Soviet autocannon '''{{PAGENAME}}'''
 
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| link = NS-23K (23 mm)
 
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== Description ==
 
== Description ==
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''A 23 mm gun which can be found on some Russian jets, (Mainly lower tier jets), that are identical to the NR-23 found on the higher tier Russian jets except fire rate.''<!-- When concerning fire rate the NS-23 is like an M2 .50 and the NR-23 is like the M3 .50 (.50 cals do not have the same fire rate as these to avoid confusion.)  -->
The NS-23 is a 23 mm autocannon which can be found on some Russian props and jets.
 
  
 
=== Vehicles equipped with this weapon ===
 
=== Vehicles equipped with this weapon ===
 
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{{Navigation-Start|Vehicles equipped with this weapon}}
 
{{Navigation-Start|Vehicles equipped with this weapon}}
 
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{{Navigation-First-Line|Fighters}}{{Specs-Link|la-9}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|la-11}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|yak-9p}}
{{Navigation-First-Line|'''Fighters'''}}{{Specs-Link|la-9}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|la-9_china}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|la-11}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|la-11_china}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|yak-9p}}&nbsp;(Modification){{-}}{{Specs-Link|yak-9p_hungary}}&nbsp;(Modification){{-}}{{Specs-Link|yak-9ut}}
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(Modification){{-}}{{Specs-Link|yak-9ut}}
 
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{{Navigation-Line|Jet fighters}}{{Specs-Link|mig-9}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|mig-15_ns23}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|mig-15bis_ish}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|yak-15}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|yak-17}}
{{Navigation-Line|'''Jet fighters'''}}{{Specs-Link|mig-9}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|mig-9_china}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|mig-15_ns23}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|su-9}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|su-11}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|yak-15}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|yak-17}}
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{{Navigation-Line|Attacker}}{{Specs-Link|il-10_1946}}
 
 
{{Navigation-Line|'''Strike aircraft'''}}{{Specs-Link|il-10_1946}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|il-10_1946_china}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|il-10_1946_hungary}}{{-}}{{Specs-Link|tu-1}}
 
 
 
 
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''Tell us about the tactical and technical characteristics of the cannon or machine gun.''
 
''Tell us about the tactical and technical characteristics of the cannon or machine gun.''
  
=== Available ammunition ===
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=== Available shells ===
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''Describe the shells that are available for the cannon and their features and purpose. If it concerns autocannons or machine guns, write about different ammo belts and what is inside (which types of shells).''
 
 
* '''Default:''' {{Annotation|AP-I|Armour-piercing incendiary}}{{-}}{{Annotation|FI-T|Fragmentation incendiary tracer}}
 
* '''Armoured targets:''' {{Annotation|FI-T|Fragmentation incendiary tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AP-I|Armour-piercing incendiary}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AP-I|Armour-piercing incendiary}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AP-I|Armour-piercing incendiary}}
 
* '''Air targets:''' {{Annotation|FI-T|Fragmentation incendiary tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|FI-T|Fragmentation incendiary tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|FI-T|Fragmentation incendiary tracer}}{{-}}{{Annotation|AP-I|Armour-piercing incendiary}}
 
* '''Stealth:''' {{Annotation|AP-I|Armour-piercing incendiary}}
 
 
 
It's recommended to use Air targets belt as the FI-T shells are far more effective against planes than the AP-I shells, although if one hasn't researched the "Offensive 23 mm" modification yet, the default belt will usually get the job done just fine. The Armoured targets belt or Stealth belt are well suited for top-down approaches on tanks because of the 29 mm penetration on the AP-I shells, which makes it possible to penetrate most tanks' engine decks from a top-down approach. Bear in mind that the AP-I shells doesn't have any tracer elements so it can be tricky to hit sometimes.
 
 
 
{{:{{PAGENAME}}/Ammunition|FI-T, AP-I}}
 
  
 
=== Comparison with analogues ===
 
=== Comparison with analogues ===
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''Give a comparative description of cannons/machine guns, that have firepower equal to these type of weapons.''
The 23 mm shells weigh approximately 200 g each compared to the 20 mm [[ShVAK (20 mm)|ShVAK]] shells that weigh only 90 g, so even though the ShVAK offers a higher fire rate, the damage of the NS-23 can make up for the loss of fire rate.
 
 
 
The NS-23 is identical to the [[NR-23 (23 mm)|NR-23]] except for the lower fire rate. The NS-23 has a fire rate of ca 600 rpm whereas the [[NR-23 (23 mm)|NR-23]] has a 50% higher fire rate of 900 rpm, but with that comes higher ammo consumption and recoil.
 
  
 
== Usage in battles ==
 
== Usage in battles ==
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''Describe the cannon/machine gun in the game - its distinctive features, tactics of usage against the main opponents. Please don't write a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but give the reader food for thought.''
Due to the high damage of the 23 mm cannons, firing short bursts is usually enough because only a few rounds need to connect to eliminate an enemy fighter, this also saves ammo which is usually in short supply for the planes using the NS-23s. For taking down bombers one should, as with most guns, aim for critical points to avoid wasting ammo and down the plane quickly.
 
 
 
Because the shells have a lower velocity than most guns (e.g. [[ShVAK (20 mm)|ShVAK]] having around 800-900 m/s compared to NS-23 600-700 m/s), a bit more lead must be used for the shells to connect. This is more of a problem in jet matches because the lead can be hard to approximate when targets are moving fast. Though this is likely not going to be a huge problem because of the tracer rich ammo belts, especially when going against slower propeller planes.
 
  
 
=== Pros and cons ===
 
=== Pros and cons ===
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''Summarize and briefly evaluate the weaponry in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark pros and cons as a list.''
  
 
'''Pros:'''
 
'''Pros:'''
* Lower fire rate can help conserve ammo and lower the recoil
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* High damage shells, no need to shoot for longer durations
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* '''Lower fire rate (compared to NR-23) can help conserve ammo'''
* High fire rate for gun of calibre
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* '''Decent damage per burst of  shells (About 4 or more shells) (3 works about 50% of the time)'''
* Has enough penetration for top-down attacks on most tanks
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* '''High fire rate for gun of caliber'''
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'''Cons:'''
 
'''Cons:'''
* Low velocity
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* Low overall rate of fire, planes can sometimes "pass between the shells" during continuous fire
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* '''Low velocity'''
* No stealth belts for air targets (if one doesn't want to use AP-I shells)
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* '''One or two shells usually wont Crit or Kill an enemy (Two can effect performance for a follow-up)'''
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* '''Slightly different velocity than gun usually paired with (N-37D)'''
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* '''occasional "sparks"'''
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* '''Lower fire rate can lead to "scissoring" the shots between the enemy'''
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== History ==
 
== History ==
''Examine the history of the creation and combat usage of the weapon in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the weapon and adding a block "/History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Weapon-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>.''
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''Examine the history of the creation and combat usage of this weapon. If the historical reference turns out to be too big, take it to a separate article, taking a link to an article about the vehicle and adding a block "/ History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(weapon-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article.''
  
 
== Media ==
 
== Media ==
''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.''
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''An excellent addition to the article would be a video guide, as well as screenshots from the game and photos.''
  
 
== See also ==
 
== See also ==
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* ''references to approximate analogues by other nations and research trees.''
* [[ShVAK (20 mm)|ShVAK]]
 
* [[NR-23 (23 mm)|NR-23]]
 
  
 
== External links ==
 
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* ''topic on the official game forum;''
 
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* ''other literature.''
 
* ''other literature.''
  
 
{{USSR aircraft cannons}}
 
{{USSR aircraft cannons}}
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{{Italy aircraft cannons}}
 
  
 
[[Category:Aircraft cannons]]
 
[[Category:Aircraft cannons]]

Revision as of 19:48, 7 April 2019

Description

A 23 mm gun which can be found on some Russian jets, (Mainly lower tier jets), that are identical to the NR-23 found on the higher tier Russian jets except fire rate.

Vehicles equipped with this weapon

Vehicles equipped with this weapon
Fighters  La-9 · La-11 · Yak-9P
(Modification) · Yak-9UT
Jet fighters  MiG-9 · MiG-15 · MiG-15bis ISH · Yak-15 · Yak-17
Attacker  IL-10 (1946)

General info

Tell us about the tactical and technical characteristics of the cannon or machine gun.

Available shells

Describe the shells that are available for the cannon and their features and purpose. If it concerns autocannons or machine guns, write about different ammo belts and what is inside (which types of shells).

Comparison with analogues

Give a comparative description of cannons/machine guns, that have firepower equal to these type of weapons.

Usage in battles

Describe the cannon/machine gun in the game - its distinctive features, tactics of usage against the main opponents. Please don't write a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but give the reader food for thought.

Pros and cons

Summarize and briefly evaluate the weaponry in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark pros and cons as a list.

Pros:

  • Lower fire rate (compared to NR-23) can help conserve ammo
  • Decent damage per burst of shells (About 4 or more shells) (3 works about 50% of the time)
  • High fire rate for gun of caliber

Cons:

  • Low velocity
  • One or two shells usually wont Crit or Kill an enemy (Two can effect performance for a follow-up)
  • Slightly different velocity than gun usually paired with (N-37D)
  • occasional "sparks"
  • Lower fire rate can lead to "scissoring" the shots between the enemy

History

Examine the history of the creation and combat usage of this weapon. If the historical reference turns out to be too big, take it to a separate article, taking a link to an article about the vehicle and adding a block "/ History" (example: https://wiki.warthunder.com/(weapon-name)/History) and add a link to it here using the main template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <ref>, as well as adding them at the end of the article.

Media

An excellent addition to the article would be a video guide, as well as screenshots from the game and photos.

See also

Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:

  • reference to the article about the variant of the cannon/machine gun;
  • references to approximate analogues by other nations and research trees.

External links

Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:

  • topic on the official game forum;
  • encyclopedia page on the weapon;
  • other literature.


USSR aircraft cannons
20 mm  B-20E · B-20M · B-20S · ShVAK
23 mm  GSh-23L · NR-23 · NS-23 · NS-23K · PTB-23 · VYa-23
30 mm  2A42 · GSh-6-30 · GSh-30-1 · GSh-30-2 · GSh-30-2K · NR-30
37 mm  N-37 · N-37D · NS-37 · SH-37
45 mm  NS-45
  Foreign:
20 mm  Hispano Mk.II (Britain) · MG 151 (Germany)
37 mm  M4 (USA) · M10 (USA)