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== Description ==
 
== Description ==
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In the late 1940s, French engineers initiated the development of the Lorraine 40t, a lighter tank project intended to complement the AMX-50 heavy tank. Mounted on the chassis of the Canon d'Assaut Lorraine, the tank featured an oscillating turret and utilized advanced technologies from previous experimental projects like the CA Lorraine and the AMX-50 prototype, including the revolver autoloader. Despite its maximum 45 mm armour thickness, the Lorraine 40t compensated with cleverly angled armour and a distinctive chevron-shaped front hull design that effectively provided the equivalent protection of 90 mm armour. The strategic use of lighter armour facilitated increased speed and manoeuvrability, paired with steel roller wheels and bulletproof tires powered by an 850 horsepower German Maybach engine, enabling the tank to reach speeds of 60 km/h. Although two prototypes were completed in 1952, the Lorraine 40t never entered production due to geopolitical shifts linked to the formation of NATO, France's integration into the alliance, and the supply of M47 Patton tanks by the US during the Korean War.
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The '''{{specs|name}}''' (40 tons battle tank), also known as the '''{{specs|pseudonym}}''' (Lorraine is both a region of France and the company that made this tank), is a Rank {{specs|rank}} French medium tank {{Battle-rating|5}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.75 "La Résistance"]]. Introducing tremendous firepower at its BR with its 100 mm SA46 L/58 gun on a highly mobile chassis. Unfortunately, it is plagued with poor armour, which encourages a battle role more similar to that of a light tank.
  
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It was introduced in [[Update 1.75 "La Résistance"]]. The Lorraine is one of the best representative of rank IV French medium tanks: it has good mobility, an oscillating turret (fitted with an autoloader), sloped armour in front and back, high hull, high gun placement, good gun depression, 4 crew member, a coaxial MAC 31 machine gun and large tracks. The Lorraine distinguishes itself by having a pike nose, similar to that of an [[IS-3]], road wheels instead of metal ones and it is the first French vehicle to be able to consistently pierce more than 200 mm of armour at standard combat ranges and it can do it seven times a minute. This tank offers high top speed and acceleration, good turning rate (neutral steering) and awesome hill climbing capacity. Use its mobility to follow light tanks into large flanking manoeuvres, providing them an extra punch for scouted targets. In a more passive playstyle, its good reverse speed should get it fast enough into cover and out of bad situations if required.
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The Lorraine is one of the best representative of rank IV French medium tanks: it has good mobility, an oscillating turret (fitted with an autoloader), sloped armour in front and back, high hull, high gun placement, good gun depression, 4 crew member, a coaxial MAC 31 machinegun and large tracks. Specifically, the Lorraine distinguishes itself by having a pike nose, similar to that of an [[IS-3]], road wheels instead of metal ones ''and'' it is the first French vehicle to be able to consistently pierce ''more than 200 mm of armour'' at standard combat ranges and it can do it seven times a minute.
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Even if its armour pattern is very efficient, with strong and well-designed angles, it is only at most 40 mm thick, meaning it will only bounce HMG fire. The best way to protect this tank is staying away from the action and taking down its foes as far as possible.
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This "medium" tank actually behaves as a light one: high top speed and acceleration, good turning rate (neutral steering) and awesome hill climbing capacity. Use its mobility to follow light tanks into large flanking manoeuvres, providing them an extra punch for scouted targets. In a more "static" usage (i.e. once in good position), its good reverse speed should get it fast enough into cover and out of bad situations if required.
  
 
== General info ==
 
== General info ==
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
 
=== Survivability and armour ===
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'''Armour type:'''
 
'''Armour type:'''
  
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| Turret || 45 mm (52-64°) ''Turret front'' <br> 30 mm (20-53°) ''Turret base'' <br> 50 mm (9-83°) ''Barrel shroud'' || 30 mm (0-56°) ''Turret'' <br> 30 mm (0-28°) ''Turret base'' || 30 mm (1-29°) ''Turret bustle'' <br> 30 mm (6-22°) ''Pivot ball'' <br> 20 mm (72-89°) ''Turret underside'' || 20 mm
 
| Turret || 45 mm (52-64°) ''Turret front'' <br> 30 mm (20-53°) ''Turret base'' <br> 50 mm (9-83°) ''Barrel shroud'' || 30 mm (0-56°) ''Turret'' <br> 30 mm (0-28°) ''Turret base'' || 30 mm (1-29°) ''Turret bustle'' <br> 30 mm (6-22°) ''Pivot ball'' <br> 20 mm (72-89°) ''Turret underside'' || 20 mm
 
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| Cupola || 30 mm || 30 mm || 30 mm || 20 mm
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! Armour !! Sides !! Roof
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| Cupola || 30 mm || 20 mm
 
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=== Mobility ===
 
=== Mobility ===
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! colspan="3" | Mobility characteristic
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=== Modifications and economy ===
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! Weight (tons)
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! colspan="1" | Add-on Armour<br>weight (tons)
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! colspan="1" | Max speed (km/h)
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| rowspan="2" | 39.7 || colspan="1" rowspan="2" | N/A || colspan="1" | 66 (AB)
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|60 (RB/SB)
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! colspan="3" | Engine power (horsepower)
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! colspan="1" | Mode
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!Stock
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!Upgraded
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|''Arcade''
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|1,317
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|1,622
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|''Realistic/Simulator''
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|752
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|850
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! colspan="3" | Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
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!Stock
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!Upgraded
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|''Arcade''
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|33.17
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|''Realistic/Simulator''
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|18.94
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== Armaments ==
 
== Armaments ==
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=== Main armament ===
 
=== Main armament ===
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{{main|SA47 L/58 (100 mm)}}
 
{{main|SA47 L/58 (100 mm)}}
  
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! colspan="5" | [[SA47 L/58 (100 mm)|100 mm SA47 L/58]] || colspan="5" | Turret rotation speed (°/s) || Reloading rate (seconds)
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! colspan="6" | [[SA47 L/58 (100 mm)|100 mm SA47 L/58]]
 
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| rowspan="2" | 49 || rowspan="2" | -8°/+15° || rowspan="2" | ±180° || rowspan="2" | N/A || 28.6 ||39.5||48.0||53.1||56.5|| rowspan="2" | 4.00
 
 
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| 17.9 ||21.0||25.5||28.2||30.0
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==== Ammunition ====
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{{:SA47 L/58 (100 mm)/Ammunition|100 mm Obus de rupture, 100 mm Obus explosif}}
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| 100 mm Obus de rupture || APCBC || 273 || 270 || 257 || 242 || 228 || 215
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! rowspan="2" |Velocity <br /> in m/s
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! rowspan="2" | ''Normalization At 30° <br> from horizontal:''
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| 100 mm Obus de rupture || APCBC || 1,060 || 15 || N/A || N/A || N/A || ° || 48° || 63° || 71°
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| 100 mm Obus explosif || HE || 1,000 || 14.8 || 0.1 || 0.5 || 1,400 || +0° || 79° || 80° || 81°
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|| '''49''' || 46&nbsp;''(+3)'' || 41&nbsp;''(+8)'' || 35&nbsp;''(+14)'' || 29&nbsp;''(+20)'' || 24&nbsp;''(+25)'' || 19&nbsp;''(+30)'' || 14&nbsp;''(+35)'' || 7&nbsp;''(+42)'' || 1&nbsp;''(+48)'' || style="text-align:left" | no
 
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=== Machine guns ===
 
=== Machine guns ===
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{{main|MAC 31 (7.5 mm)}}
 
{{main|MAC 31 (7.5 mm)}}
  
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! colspan="7" | ''Coaxial mount''
 
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! colspan="4" rowspan="1" style="width:5em" |Capacity (Belt capacity)
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! rowspan="1" | Fire rate <br> (shots/minute)
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! rowspan="1" | Vertical <br> guidance
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| Coaxial || 4,800 (150) || 551 || N/A || N/A
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== Usage in battles ==
 
== Usage in battles ==
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The Lorraine 40t can be used in a lot of combat roles as it has great mobility, weapon, silhouette and has an autoloader. When it comes to medium tanks at the battle rating, it is one of the tanks which has a relative low armour penetration, but this does not stop the Lorraine from performing excellently at some roles.
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Use it as a sniper tank. Don't engage close quarters combat: it will only result in a 19 498 SL pile of scrap. Even if spalling damage is very good, one-shots are a bit rare: in order to destroy an enemy, immobilize it first, snipe the fire control group (gunner, gun breech, barrel,etc.) and then finish off the rest of the crew. In an average engagement, you will need ~3-4 shots per enemy: the first shot misses, it is the ranging shot, the second hits (disables mobility) the third and fourth finish the job. If lucky, penetrating frontal shots can do enough spalling damage to incapacitate the entire crew.
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The Lorraine just lacks stabilizer to be one of the best tanks in urban combat. It is capable of doing everything but being an assault tank when it comes to urban maps. The Lorraine should be used as a support vehicle for heavier vehicles, flanker or sniper (in maps like Eastern Europe). Thanks to the 4.0 second reload with autoloader, the Lorraine is able of engaging multiple targets at a time with its turret rotation speed of 21.0°/s, be aware that the autoloader is a revolver autoloader, meaning the barrel has to be replenished after all the rounds have been fired. You can also use your quick reload as bait, meaning you can fire a single round at the air to make enemies push as they will think you will be reloading slowly but by the time they have sight on you you will be able to fire them multiple times and incapacitate or destroy them. It also should be noted that the autoloader will reload regardless of if you are on fire or the loader is has been knocked, only 1 crew member needs to be alive in the turret in order to reload. Thanks to its speed and agility, the Lorraine is able to "Hit N' Run" when flanking and engaging multiple targets at a time.
 
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The Lorraine has almost the mobility of an M18 but with greater firepower. The relatively high muzzle velocity of the gun makes the Lorraine capable of doing sniping attacks and hit them continuously thanks to the autoloader. Thanks to its mobility, it is able to travel with great speed to one side of the map to another in little time. When sniping, always stay on the move after firing. Fire and move, hence and repeat. This is to maintain the Lorraine's reduced profile when enemy players try to take revenge with tanks or aircraft. Do not stray too far from friendly tanks as they will be your main line of defence as you do not have great armour. Always stay aware of your surroundings.
 
  
 
=== Pros and cons ===
 
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'''Pros:'''
 
'''Pros:'''
  
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* One of the fastest and most agile medium tank in the game. Can legitimately outrun and outmanoeuvre many of the light tanks at the BR
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* Very mobile
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* Excellent 100 mm gun that has great penetration and damage potential
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* Excellent penetration from the gun
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* Equipped with an 8-shot autoloader, giving this tank an outstanding 4 second reload
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* High top speed
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* The excellent speed and manoeuvrability coupled with the 8-shot autoloader makes the Lorraine one of the most dangerous flankers/ambushers in the game. Can single-handedly decimate half a dozen enemies in seconds
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* Fast reverse speed
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* The high reverse speed coupled with the 8 degrees of gun depression makes cresting ridgelines a viable tactic
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* Sloped frontal armour, a similar pattern to that of an IS-3
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* 6x magnification on the gunners optics. Good for both close and long range engagements
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* Great conical fragmentation from the gun. Frontal penetrations/centre of mass shots are deadly
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* Very fast turret rotation speed, almost as fast as some SPAA
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* Excellent flanker
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* Powerful gun with fast reload rate
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* 7 rounds autoloader allows engaging multiple threats before having to "long reload"
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* Good gun depression angle
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* Neutral steering
  
 
'''Cons:'''
 
'''Cons:'''
  
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* Abysmal levels of frontal armour and absolutely terrible side armour. Tanking shots will lead to a quick death
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* Thin frontal armour
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* Bad roof armour too. Attackers and artillery is extremely hazardous to the Lorraine
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* Lack of explosive filler in the round
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* The Lorraine has a rather large and long silhouette. Not that easy to find proper concealment
 
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* Like most French tanks, doesn't have access to any APHE shells
 
 
* Conical fragmentation makes side shots less effective
 
* Conical fragmentation makes side shots less effective
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* Due to the nature of oscillating turrets, the tank has bad turret elevation
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* Side armour is flat and thin
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* Despite the length of the barrel, the 100 mm gun has sub-par levels of accuracy. Sniping at weak points past 500 m is not that easy
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* ''Very high'' repair costs (similar to that of MBTs)
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* Filled with ammo
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* Bad turret elevation angle
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* Thin top armour, vulnerable to strafing planes and artillery
  
 
== History ==
 
== History ==
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At the end of the 1940s, during development of the AMX-50 heavy tank project, French engineers also decided to try creating a lighter tank that could serve the same role as the AMX-50.
 
At the end of the 1940s, during development of the AMX-50 heavy tank project, French engineers also decided to try creating a lighter tank that could serve the same role as the AMX-50.
  
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The project was initially designated "40 ton battle tank" with an oscillating turret on the Cannon D'assaut Lorraine's chassis. Later, the vehicle was called the Lorraine 40t, based upon the name of the company that developed it : Lorraine-Dietrich. The tank used many of the same technological developments of the experimental, specially the CA Lorraine but sharing also technology with the AMX-50 prototype, specifically the revolver autoloader.
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The project was initially designated “40 ton battle tank”. Later, the vehicle was called the Lorraine 40t, based upon the name of the region in which the experimental prototypes of it were built. The tank used many of the same technological developments of the experimental AMX prototypes, and was clearly influenced by the German Tiger II, Panther/E-50, and the Soviet IS tanks.
  
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With armour plating at a maximum thickness of 45 mm, the Lorraine 40t isn't as well armoured as the AMX-50. The designers, however, set the armour plates on the Lorraine 40t at clever angles and implemented a chevron shape for the front of the hull (for which the tank is known). This effectively armoured the most vulnerable parts of the front projection and effectively exceeded the equivalent of 90 mm armour.
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With armor plating at a maximum thickness of 45mm, the Lorraine 40t isn’t as well armored as the AMX-50. The designers, however, set the armor plates on the Lorraine 40t at clever angles and implemented a chevron shape for the front of the hull (for which the tank is known). This effectively armored the most vulnerable parts of the front projection and effectively exceeded the equivalent of 90mm armor..
  
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In addition, the Lorraine 40t's lighter armour significantly reduced its weight, thereby increasing its speed and allowing the use of steel paired roller wheels with bulletproof tires. Combined with the 850 horsepower German Maybach engine, the Lorraine 40t could reach 60 km/h, move smoothly and fire effectively at low speeds.<ref>From [[wt:en/news/5181-development-lorraine-40t-sports-heavy-en|Devblog]]</ref>
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In addition, the Lorraine 40t’s lighter armor significantly reduced its weight, thereby increasing its speed and allowing the use of steel paired roller wheels with bulletproof tires. Combined with the 850 horsepower German Maybach engine, the Lorraine 40t could reach 60 km/h, move smoothly and fire effectively at low speeds.<ref>From [https://warthunder.com/en/news/5181-development-lorraine-40t-sports-heavy-en Devblog]</ref>
  
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Two prototypes of the Lorraine 40t were completed in 1952. But the tank never reached production due to the creation of NATO, France invitation to NATO and the US supplying M47 Patton to France due to the Korean War outbreak.
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Lorraine 40t
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Lorraine 40t
France flag.png France
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Battle rating:
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Description

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The Char de bataille de 40 tonnes (40 tons battle tank), also known as the Lorraine 40t (Lorraine is both a region of France and the company that made this tank), is a Rank V French medium tank with a battle rating of 7.0 (AB), 7.7 (RB), and 7.3 (SB). It was introduced in Update 1.75 "La Résistance". Introducing tremendous firepower at its BR with its 100 mm SA46 L/58 gun on a highly mobile chassis. Unfortunately, it is plagued with poor armour, which encourages a battle role more similar to that of a light tank.

The Lorraine is one of the best representative of rank IV French medium tanks: it has good mobility, an oscillating turret (fitted with an autoloader), sloped armour in front and back, high hull, high gun placement, good gun depression, 4 crew member, a coaxial MAC 31 machinegun and large tracks. Specifically, the Lorraine distinguishes itself by having a pike nose, similar to that of an IS-3, road wheels instead of metal ones and it is the first French vehicle to be able to consistently pierce more than 200 mm of armour at standard combat ranges and it can do it seven times a minute.

Even if its armour pattern is very efficient, with strong and well-designed angles, it is only at most 40 mm thick, meaning it will only bounce HMG fire. The best way to protect this tank is staying away from the action and taking down its foes as far as possible.

This "medium" tank actually behaves as a light one: high top speed and acceleration, good turning rate (neutral steering) and awesome hill climbing capacity. Use its mobility to follow light tanks into large flanking manoeuvres, providing them an extra punch for scouted targets. In a more "static" usage (i.e. once in good position), its good reverse speed should get it fast enough into cover and out of bad situations if required.

General info

Survivability and armour

Armour type:

  • Rolled homogeneous armour (Casemate hull)
  • Cast homogeneous armour (Gun mantlet, Driver's hatch)
Armour Front Sides Rear Roof
Hull 40 mm (57-69°) Front glacis
35 mm (59°) Lower glacis
40 mm (69°) Driver's hatch 		30 mm (30°) Top
30 mm Bottom 		25 mm (31°) 20 mm
8 mm Engine grille
Turret 45 mm (52-64°) Turret front
30 mm (20-53°) Turret base
50 mm (9-83°) Barrel shroud 		30 mm (0-56°) Turret
30 mm (0-28°) Turret base 		30 mm (1-29°) Turret bustle
30 mm (6-22°) Pivot ball
20 mm (72-89°) Turret underside 		20 mm
Armour Sides Roof
Cupola 30 mm 20 mm

Notes:

  • Suspension wheels are 20 mm thick while tracks are 30 mm thick.

Mobility

Mobility characteristic
Weight (tons) Add-on Armour
weight (tons) 		Max speed (km/h)
39.7 N/A 66 (AB)
60 (RB/SB)
Engine power (horsepower)
Mode Stock Upgraded
Arcade 1,317 1,622
Realistic/Simulator 752 850
Power-to-weight ratio (hp/ton)
Mode Stock Upgraded
Arcade 33.17 __.__
Realistic/Simulator 18.94 __.__

Armaments

Main armament

Main article: SA47 L/58 (100 mm)
100 mm SA47 L/58
Capacity Vertical
guidance 		Horizontal
guidance 		Stabilizer
49 -8°/+15° ±180° N/A
Turret rotation speed (°/s)
Mode Stock Upgraded Prior + Full crew Prior + Expert qualif. Prior + Ace qualif.
Arcade 28.6 __.__ __.__ __.__ __.__
Realistic 17.9 __.__ __.__ __.__ __.__
Reloading rate (seconds)
Stock Prior + Full crew Prior + Expert qualif. Prior + Ace qualif.
4.0 __.__ __.__ __.__
Ammunition
Penetration statistics
Ammunition Type of
warhead 		Penetration in mm @ 0° Angle of Attack
10m 100m 500m 1000m 1500m 2000m
100 mm Obus de rupture APCBC 273 270 257 242 228 215
100 mm Obus explosif HE 18 18 18 18 18 18
Shell details
Ammunition Type of
warhead 		Velocity
in m/s 		Projectile
Mass in kg 		Fuse delay

in m:

Fuse sensitivity

in mm:

Explosive Mass in g
(TNT equivalent): 		Normalization At 30°
from horizontal: 		Ricochet:
0% 50% 100%
100 mm Obus de rupture APCBC 1,060 15 N/A N/A N/A ° 48° 63° 71°
100 mm Obus explosif HE 1,000 14.8 0.1 0.5 1,400 +0° 79° 80° 81°
Ammo racks
Ammo racks of the Lorraine 40t
Full
ammo 		1st
rack empty 		2nd
rack empty 		3rd
rack empty 		4th
rack empty 		5th
rack empty 		6th
rack empty 		7th
rack empty 		8th
rack empty 		9th
rack empty 		Visual
discrepancy
49 46 (+3) 41 (+8) 35 (+14) 29 (+20) 24 (+25) 19 (+30) 14 (+35) 7 (+42) 1 (+48) no

Machine guns

Main article: MAC 31 (7.5 mm)
7.5 mm MAC 31
Coaxial mount
Capacity (Belt capacity) Fire rate
(shots/minute) 		Vertical
guidance 		Horizontal
guidance
4,800 (150) 1,350 N/A N/A

Usage in battles

Use it as a sniper tank. Don't engage close quarters combat: it will only result in a 19 498 SL pile of scrap. Even if spalling damage is very good, one-shots are a bit rare: in order to destroy an enemy, immobilize it first, snipe the fire control group (gunner, gun breech, barrel,etc.) and then finish off the rest of the crew. In an average engagement, you will need ~3-4 shots per enemy: the first shot misses, it is the ranging shot, the second hits (disables mobility) the third and fourth finish the job. If lucky, penetrating frontal shots can do enough spalling damage to incapacitate the entire crew.

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Very mobile
  • Excellent penetration from the gun
  • High top speed
  • Fast reverse speed
  • Sloped frontal armour, a similar pattern to that of an IS-3
  • Great conical fragmentation from the gun. Frontal penetrations/centre of mass shots are deadly
  • Very fast turret rotation speed, almost as fast as some SPAA
  • Excellent flanker
  • Powerful gun with fast reload rate
  • 7 rounds autoloader allows engaging multiple threats before having to "long reload"
  • Good gun depression angle
  • Neutral steering

Cons:

  • Thin frontal armour
  • Lack of explosive filler in the round
  • Conical fragmentation makes side shots less effective
  • Side armour is flat and thin
  • Very high repair costs (similar to that of MBTs)
  • Filled with ammo
  • Bad turret elevation angle
  • Thin top armour, vulnerable to strafing planes and artillery

History

At the end of the 1940s, during development of the AMX-50 heavy tank project, French engineers also decided to try creating a lighter tank that could serve the same role as the AMX-50.

The project was initially designated “40 ton battle tank”. Later, the vehicle was called the Lorraine 40t, based upon the name of the region in which the experimental prototypes of it were built. The tank used many of the same technological developments of the experimental AMX prototypes, and was clearly influenced by the German Tiger II, Panther/E-50, and the Soviet IS tanks.

With armor plating at a maximum thickness of 45mm, the Lorraine 40t isn’t as well armored as the AMX-50. The designers, however, set the armor plates on the Lorraine 40t at clever angles and implemented a chevron shape for the front of the hull (for which the tank is known). This effectively armored the most vulnerable parts of the front projection and effectively exceeded the equivalent of 90mm armor..

In addition, the Lorraine 40t’s lighter armor significantly reduced its weight, thereby increasing its speed and allowing the use of steel paired roller wheels with bulletproof tires. Combined with the 850 horsepower German Maybach engine, the Lorraine 40t could reach 60 km/h, move smoothly and fire effectively at low speeds.[1]

Two prototypes of the Lorraine 40t were completed in 1952. But the tank never reached production.

Media

An excellent addition to the article will be video guides, as well as screenshots from the game and photos.

References

  1. ↑ From Devblog

See also

Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:

  • reference to the series of the vehicles;
  • links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.

External links


France medium tanks
M4 Derivatives  M4A1 (FL10) · M4A4 (SA50)
AMX-50  AMX M4 · AMX-50 (TOA100) · AMX-50 (TO90/930)
AMX-30  AMX-30 · AMX-30 (1972) · AMX-30B2 · AMX-30B2 BRENUS · AMX-30 ACRA · AMX-30 Super
AMX-32/40  AMX-32 · AMX-32 (105) · AMX-40
Leclerc  Leclerc · Leclerc S2 · Leclerc SXXI · Leclerc AZUR
Other  D2 · S.35 · Lorraine 40t
Germany  Panther "Dauphiné"
USA  ▄M4A1 · ▄M4A3 (105) · ▄M4A4 · ▄M26

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