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{{About | {{About | ||
| about = Italian bomber '''{{PAGENAME}}''' | | about = Italian bomber '''{{PAGENAME}}''' | ||
− | | usage = other | + | | other |
− | | link = P. | + | | usage-1 = the attacker |
+ | | link-1 = P.108A serie 2 | ||
+ | | usage-2 = the other bomber variant | ||
+ | | link-2 = P.108B serie 2 | ||
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== Description == | == Description == | ||
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[[File:GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|420px|thumb|left]] | [[File:GarageImage_{{PAGENAME}}.jpg|420px|thumb|left]] | ||
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Italian bomber {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.69 "Regia Aeronautica"]]. | The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} Italian bomber {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update 1.69 "Regia Aeronautica"]]. | ||
− | The P.108B Serie 1 is a heavy bomber with a heavy bomb load and relatively weak defensive armament. When delivering the bombs to the targets, high altitudes are a must. The preferred targets of this bomber are stationary objects like pillboxes or slow moving vehicles such as ships (if you can time it well) and of course the | + | The P.108B Serie 1 is a heavy bomber with a heavy bomb load and relatively weak defensive armament. When delivering the bombs to the targets, high altitudes are a must. The preferred targets of this bomber are stationary objects like pillboxes or slow moving vehicles such as ships (if you can time it well) and of course the bombing targets and airfields. Should an enemy fighter catch up with you, it is certain doom as your defensive guns have a low chance to kill it. To survive attacks, use your gunners to ward off the enemy aircraft until help comes. Stay away from combat as much as you can and do your job as a bomber. |
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== General info == | == General info == | ||
− | === Flight | + | === Flight performance === |
− | + | ''Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.'' | |
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" | {| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" | ||
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! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds) | ! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds) | ||
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(meters/second) | ! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(meters/second) | ||
− | ! rowspan="2" |Take-off run<br>(meters) | + | ! rowspan="2" | Take-off run<br>(meters) |
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! AB | ! AB | ||
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! RB | ! RB | ||
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− | | | + | | 401 || 388 || {{Specs|ceiling}} || 37.3 || 38.7 || 2.5 || 2.4 || 750 |
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! colspan="8" | ''Upgraded'' | ! colspan="8" | ''Upgraded'' | ||
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! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 3,900 m) | ! colspan="2" | Max Speed<br>(km/h at 3,900 m) | ||
− | ! rowspan="2" |Max altitude (meters) | + | ! rowspan="2" | Max altitude<br>(meters) |
− | ! colspan="2" | Turn time (seconds) | + | ! colspan="2" | Turn time<br>(seconds) |
! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(meters/second) | ! colspan="2" | Rate of climb<br>(meters/second) | ||
− | ! rowspan="2" |Take-off run (meters) | + | ! rowspan="2" | Take-off run<br>(meters) |
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! AB | ! AB | ||
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! RB | ! RB | ||
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− | | | + | | 438 || 419 || {{Specs|ceiling}} || 34.8 || 36.0 || 6.5 || 4.3 || 750 |
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− | ====Details==== | + | ==== Details ==== |
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" | {| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" | ||
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! colspan="5" | Features | ! colspan="5" | Features | ||
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− | ! Combat | + | ! Combat flaps |
− | ! Take-off | + | ! Take-off flaps |
− | ! Landing | + | ! Landing flaps |
! Air brakes | ! Air brakes | ||
! Arrestor gear | ! Arrestor gear | ||
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− | | ✓ || ✓ || | + | | ✓ || ✓ || ✓ || X || X <!-- ✓ --> |
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! rowspan="2" | Wing-break speed<br>(km/h) | ! rowspan="2" | Wing-break speed<br>(km/h) | ||
! rowspan="2" | Gear limit<br>(km/h) | ! rowspan="2" | Gear limit<br>(km/h) | ||
− | ! rowspan="2" | Combat | + | ! rowspan="2" | Combat flaps<br>(km/h) |
! colspan="2" | Max Static G | ! colspan="2" | Max Static G | ||
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! - | ! - | ||
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− | | | + | | {{Specs|destruction|constructions}} || {{Specs|destruction|chassis}} || 400 || ~3 || ~2 |
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! Radiator<br>(km/h) | ! Radiator<br>(km/h) | ||
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− | | < | + | | < 330 || < 310 || < 270 || > 250 |
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! WEP Engine power | ! WEP Engine power | ||
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− | === Survivability and armour ===<!-- ''Examine the survivability of the aircraft. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, whether the fuel tanks are armoured, etc. Describe the armour, if there is any, and also mention the vulnerability of other critical aircraft systems.'' --> | + | === Survivability and armour === |
− | + | <!-- ''Examine the survivability of the aircraft. Note how vulnerable the structure is and how secure the pilot is, whether the fuel tanks are armoured, etc. Describe the armour, if there is any, and also mention the vulnerability of other critical aircraft systems.'' --> | |
− | *8 mm Steel - Cockpit | + | * 8 mm Steel - Cockpit armour - instrument panel, pilot's seat, co-pilot's seat and floor plate below pilot |
− | *8 mm Steel - | + | * 8 mm Steel - Armour plate protecting ammo located in wings |
− | *8 mm Steel - Side gunner | + | * 8 mm Steel - Side gunner armoured walls |
− | *8 mm Steel - Ventral gunner position | + | * 8 mm Steel - Ventral gunner position |
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== Armaments == | == Armaments == | ||
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=== Suspended armament === | === Suspended armament === | ||
− | ''Describe the aircraft's suspended armament: additional cannons under the wings, bombs, rockets | + | <!-- ''Describe the aircraft's suspended armament: additional cannons under the wings, bombs, rockets and torpedoes. This section is especially important for bombers and attackers. If there is no suspended weaponry remove this subsection.'' --> |
− | + | {{main|GP 50 (50 kg)|GP 100 (100 kg)|GP 250 (250 kg)|GP 500 (500 kg)|F200/450}} | |
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+ | The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' can be outfitted with the following ordnance: | ||
* 34 x 50 kg GP 50 bombs (1,700 kg total) | * 34 x 50 kg GP 50 bombs (1,700 kg total) | ||
− | * 34 x 100 kg GP 100 bombs (3 | + | * 34 x 100 kg GP 100 bombs (3,400 kg total) |
− | * 2 x | + | * 2 x F200/450 torpedoes |
− | * 3 x | + | * 3 x F200/450 torpedoes |
− | * 7 x 250 kg GP 250 bombs (1, | + | * 7 x 250 kg GP 250 bombs (1,750 kg total) |
* 7 x 500 kg GP 500 bombs (3,500 kg total) | * 7 x 500 kg GP 500 bombs (3,500 kg total) | ||
=== Defensive armament === | === Defensive armament === | ||
− | <!--''Defensive armament with turret machine guns or cannons, crewed by gunners. Examine the number of gunners and what belts or drums are better to use. If defensive weaponry is not available, remove this subsection.''--> | + | <!-- ''Defensive armament with turret machine guns or cannons, crewed by gunners. Examine the number of gunners and what belts or drums are better to use. If defensive weaponry is not available, remove this subsection.'' --> |
− | {{main|Breda-SAFAT (12.7 mm)}} | + | {{main|Breda-SAFAT (12.7 mm)|Breda-SAFAT (7.7 mm)}} |
The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is defended by: | The '''''{{PAGENAME}}''''' is defended by: | ||
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* 1 x 12.7 mm Breda-SAFAT machine gun, nose turret (300 rpg) | * 1 x 12.7 mm Breda-SAFAT machine gun, nose turret (300 rpg) | ||
− | * 2 x 12.7 mm Breda-SAFAT machine | + | * 2 x 12.7 mm Breda-SAFAT machine guns, 2 x wing turrets (300 rpg = 600 total) |
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* 1 x 12.7 mm Breda-SAFAT machine gun, ventral turret (450 rpg) | * 1 x 12.7 mm Breda-SAFAT machine gun, ventral turret (450 rpg) | ||
+ | * 1 x 7.7 mm Breda-SAFAT machine gun, 2 x beam turrets (400 rpg) | ||
− | == Usage in | + | == Usage in battles == |
− | + | ''Describe the tactics of playing in an aircraft, the features of using aircraft in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but instead, give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).'' | |
− | ===Manual Engine Control=== | + | === Manual Engine Control === |
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" | {| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center" | ||
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! colspan="7" | MEC elements | ! colspan="7" | MEC elements | ||
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− | ! rowspan="2" |Mixer | + | ! rowspan="2" | Mixer |
− | ! rowspan="2" |Pitch | + | ! rowspan="2" | Pitch |
− | ! colspan="3" |Radiator | + | ! colspan="3" | Radiator |
− | ! rowspan="2" |Supercharger | + | ! rowspan="2" | Supercharger |
− | ! rowspan="2" |Turbocharger | + | ! rowspan="2" | Turbocharger |
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! Oil | ! Oil | ||
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! Type | ! Type | ||
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− | | Controllable || rowspan="2" | | + | | Controllable || rowspan="2" | Controllable<br>Auto control available || rowspan="2" | Controllable<br>Not auto controlled || rowspan="2" | Controllable<br>Not auto controlled || rowspan="2" | Separate || rowspan="2" | Not controllable<br>1 gear || rowspan="2" | Auto controlled |
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− | ===Modules=== | + | === Modules === |
{| class="wikitable" | {| class="wikitable" | ||
! colspan="1" | Tier | ! colspan="1" | Tier | ||
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| I | | I | ||
− | | Fuselage | + | | Fuselage repair |
| Radiator | | Radiator | ||
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− | | | + | | Turret 7 mm |
+ | | MCSAP100 | ||
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| II | | II | ||
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| Compressor | | Compressor | ||
| Airframe | | Airframe | ||
− | | | + | | New 7 mm MGs (turret) |
+ | | TBC-79 | ||
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| III | | III | ||
− | | Wings | + | | Wings repair |
| Engine | | Engine | ||
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− | | | + | | Turret 12 mm |
+ | | MCGP250 | ||
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| IV | | IV | ||
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− | | Engine | + | | Engine injection |
| Cover | | Cover | ||
− | | | + | | New 12 mm MGs (turret) |
+ | | MCRO500 | ||
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|} | |} | ||
=== Pros and cons === | === Pros and cons === | ||
− | <!--'' | + | <!-- ''Summarise and briefly evaluate the vehicle in terms of its characteristics and combat effectiveness. Mark its pros and cons in the bulleted list. Try not to use more than 6 points for each of the characteristics. Avoid using categorical definitions such as "bad", "good" and the like - use substitutions with softer forms such as "inadequate" and "effective".'' --> |
'''Pros:''' | '''Pros:''' | ||
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* 2 turrets are placed on the distant engines allowing for more guns to face backward | * 2 turrets are placed on the distant engines allowing for more guns to face backward | ||
* Heavy payload available | * Heavy payload available | ||
− | * One of two planes (the other being the P.108B | + | * One of two planes (the other being the [[P.108B serie 2]]) in the game that can carry three torpedoes |
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+ | '''Cons:''' | ||
* Gunners are bunched together and easily knocked out | * Gunners are bunched together and easily knocked out | ||
* Turrets on the engines cannot face forwards | * Turrets on the engines cannot face forwards | ||
− | * Poor | + | * Poor manoeuvrability and climb rate |
* Prone to fuel tank fire due to tremendous fuel load | * Prone to fuel tank fire due to tremendous fuel load | ||
* Massive size | * Massive size | ||
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== History == | == History == | ||
− | ''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the aircraft in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too | + | ''Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the aircraft in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/ History" (example: <nowiki>https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History</nowiki>) and add a link to it here using the <code>main</code> template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <code><nowiki><ref></ref></nowiki></code>, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <code><nowiki><references /></nowiki></code>. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under <code><nowiki>=== In-game description ===</nowiki></code>, also if applicable).'' |
== Media == | == Media == | ||
− | '' | + | ''Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.'' |
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+ | == See also == | ||
+ | ''Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:'' | ||
* ''reference to the series of the aircraft;'' | * ''reference to the series of the aircraft;'' | ||
* ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.'' | * ''links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.'' | ||
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− | == | + | == External links == |
''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:'' | ''Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:'' | ||
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* ''topic on the official game forum;'' | * ''topic on the official game forum;'' | ||
− | * ''page on aircraft | + | * ''encyclopedia page on the aircraft;'' |
* ''other literature.'' | * ''other literature.'' | ||
− | {{ | + | {{Italy bombers}} |
Revision as of 18:17, 29 June 2019
Contents
This page is about the Italian bomber P.108B serie 1. For the attacker, see P.108A serie 2. For the other bomber variant, see P.108B serie 2. |
Description
The P.108B serie 1 is a rank III Italian bomber
with a battle rating of 3.7 (AB) and 3.3 (RB/SB). It was introduced in Update 1.69 "Regia Aeronautica".
The P.108B Serie 1 is a heavy bomber with a heavy bomb load and relatively weak defensive armament. When delivering the bombs to the targets, high altitudes are a must. The preferred targets of this bomber are stationary objects like pillboxes or slow moving vehicles such as ships (if you can time it well) and of course the bombing targets and airfields. Should an enemy fighter catch up with you, it is certain doom as your defensive guns have a low chance to kill it. To survive attacks, use your gunners to ward off the enemy aircraft until help comes. Stay away from combat as much as you can and do your job as a bomber.
General info
Flight performance
Describe how the aircraft behaves in the air. Speed, manoeuvrability, acceleration and allowable loads - these are the most important characteristics of the vehicle.
Characteristics | |||||||
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Stock | |||||||
Max Speed (km/h at 3,900 m) |
Max altitude (meters) |
Turn time (seconds) |
Rate of climb (meters/second) |
Take-off run (meters) | |||
AB | RB | AB | RB | AB | RB | ||
401 | 388 | 9000 | 37.3 | 38.7 | 2.5 | 2.4 | 750 |
Upgraded | |||||||
Max Speed (km/h at 3,900 m) |
Max altitude (meters) |
Turn time (seconds) |
Rate of climb (meters/second) |
Take-off run (meters) | |||
AB | RB | AB | RB | AB | RB | ||
438 | 419 | 9000 | 34.8 | 36.0 | 6.5 | 4.3 | 750 |
Details
Features | ||||
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Combat flaps | Take-off flaps | Landing flaps | Air brakes | Arrestor gear |
✓ | ✓ | ✓ | X | X |
Limits | ||||
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Wing-break speed (km/h) |
Gear limit (km/h) |
Combat flaps (km/h) |
Max Static G | |
+ | - | |||
400 | ~3 | ~2 |
Optimal velocities | |||
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Ailerons (km/h) |
Rudder (km/h) |
Elevators (km/h) |
Radiator (km/h) |
< 330 | < 310 | < 270 | > 250 |
Compressor (RB/SB) | ||
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Setting 1 | ||
Optimal altitude | 100% Engine power | WEP Engine power |
3,500 m | 1,350 hp | 1,499 hp |
Survivability and armour
- 8 mm Steel - Cockpit armour - instrument panel, pilot's seat, co-pilot's seat and floor plate below pilot
- 8 mm Steel - Armour plate protecting ammo located in wings
- 8 mm Steel - Side gunner armoured walls
- 8 mm Steel - Ventral gunner position
Armaments
Suspended armament
The P.108B serie 1 can be outfitted with the following ordnance:
- 34 x 50 kg GP 50 bombs (1,700 kg total)
- 34 x 100 kg GP 100 bombs (3,400 kg total)
- 2 x F200/450 torpedoes
- 3 x F200/450 torpedoes
- 7 x 250 kg GP 250 bombs (1,750 kg total)
- 7 x 500 kg GP 500 bombs (3,500 kg total)
Defensive armament
The P.108B serie 1 is defended by:
- 1 x 12.7 mm Breda-SAFAT machine gun, nose turret (300 rpg)
- 2 x 12.7 mm Breda-SAFAT machine guns, 2 x wing turrets (300 rpg = 600 total)
- 1 x 12.7 mm Breda-SAFAT machine gun, ventral turret (450 rpg)
- 1 x 7.7 mm Breda-SAFAT machine gun, 2 x beam turrets (400 rpg)
Usage in battles
Describe the tactics of playing in an aircraft, the features of using aircraft in a team and advice on tactics. Refrain from creating a "guide" - do not impose a single point of view, but instead, give the reader food for thought. Examine the most dangerous enemies and give recommendations on fighting them. If necessary, note the specifics of the game in different modes (AB, RB, SB).
Manual Engine Control
MEC elements | ||||||
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Mixer | Pitch | Radiator | Supercharger | Turbocharger | ||
Oil | Water | Type | ||||
Controllable | Controllable Auto control available |
Controllable Not auto controlled |
Controllable Not auto controlled |
Separate | Not controllable 1 gear |
Auto controlled |
Modules
Tier | Flight performance | Survivability | Weaponry | ||
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I | Fuselage repair | Radiator | Turret 7 mm | MCSAP100 | |
II | Compressor | Airframe | New 7 mm MGs (turret) | TBC-79 | |
III | Wings repair | Engine | Turret 12 mm | MCGP250 | |
IV | Engine injection | Cover | New 12 mm MGs (turret) | MCRO500 |
Pros and cons
Pros:
- 2 turrets are placed on the distant engines allowing for more guns to face backward
- Heavy payload available
- One of two planes (the other being the P.108B serie 2) in the game that can carry three torpedoes
Cons:
- Gunners are bunched together and easily knocked out
- Turrets on the engines cannot face forwards
- Poor manoeuvrability and climb rate
- Prone to fuel tank fire due to tremendous fuel load
- Massive size
- Relatively weak defensive firepower
History
Describe the history of the creation and combat usage of the aircraft in more detail than in the introduction. If the historical reference turns out to be too long, take it to a separate article, taking a link to the article about the vehicle and adding a block "/ History" (example: https://wiki.warthunder.com/(Vehicle-name)/History) and add a link to it here using the main
template. Be sure to reference text and sources by using <ref></ref>
, as well as adding them at the end of the article with <references />
. This section may also include the vehicle's dev blog entry (if applicable) and the in-game encyclopedia description (under === In-game description ===
, also if applicable).
Media
Excellent additions to the article would be video guides, screenshots from the game, and photos.
See also
Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:
- reference to the series of the aircraft;
- links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.
External links
Paste links to sources and external resources, such as:
- topic on the official game forum;
- encyclopedia page on the aircraft;
- other literature.
Italy bombers | |
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Fiat | B.R.20DR · B.R.20M M1 |
Savoia-Marchetti | S.81 · S.M.79 serie 1 · S.M.79 B · S.M.79 serie 8 · S.M.79 AS · S.M.79 bis/T.M |
CANT | Z.1007 bis serie 3 · Z.1007 bis serie 5 |
Piaggio | P.108B serie 1 · P.108B serie 2 |
Foreign: | |
Germany | ▄Ju 87 R-2 · ▄Ju 87 D-3 |
Hungary | ◔Tu-2S-59 |