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== Description ==
 
== Description ==
 
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The '''{{Specs|name}}''' is a rank {{Specs|rank}} French bomber {{Battle-rating}}. It was introduced in [[Update "La Royale"]].
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After World War II, many [[Lancaster (Family)|Lancaster]] bombers were refitted into civilian roles, such as transport, mail delivery, and search and rescue. 59 Lancaster B.Is and B.VIIs were ordered by the French ''Aéronavale'' to be converted into a maritime patrol aircraft. The aircraft, later designated ''Lancaster MR.7'', were delivered by Avro during 1952-53. These would be the last direct variant of the Lancaster ever built. The MR.7 flew until the mid-1960s by four squadrons stationed in France and New Caledonia in the maritime reconnaissance and search-and-rescue roles.
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It was introduced in [[Update "La Royale"]]. The '''{{Specs|name}}''' in the French tech tree is not identical at all to the Lancaster in the British tech tree. While it still carries a very large payload, enough to deal with a base in air battles and carpet bomb a good chunk of the map, this one has a more limited defensive armament that covers only the back and front of the aircraft. It also has access to a radar. However, the main difference is its inability to carry the 12,000 lb bomb found on the British Lancasters, in fact, its largest bomb is a 1,000 lb bomb, paired with more smaller bombs in the bomb bay.
  
 
== General info ==
 
== General info ==
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{{Specs-Avia-Flight}}
 
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The aircraft has a great flight performance, a high wing rip speed and is a friendly take-off and landing aircraft.
  
 
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! colspan="2" | Max speed<br>(km/h at 3,048 m)
 
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* 8 mm Steel plates behind the pilot seat
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* 6.35 mm Steel plate behind the engines
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* No armour glazing
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* Critical components located at the front of aircraft (fuel, pilot, engine, controls)
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=== Modifications and economy ===
 
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== Usage in battles ==
 
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'''Air Battles'''
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The best use of the Lancaster MR.7 is to fly at high altitudes, destroy the target bases with its massive payload.
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It is recommended to spawn at the long-range bomber spawn (normally 4,510 m) and as soon as you spawn you can climb between 5-10 degrees at 220-280 km/h IAS, by climbing at the angle of 5° you can get to the drop point in 4 to 5 minutes at almost 5,800 m. After you drop the bombs on the targets you should return to your airfield on a gentle descent of 15°.
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If an enemy airplane is approaching, you should turn your back toward it (where the 2 x 12.7 mm machine guns are located), wait for it to get within 1 km of you and then begin to shoot him. If the enemy is approaching you from below or from above, pitch up or pitch down to get the best angle for your gunner.
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If you are stock, the best loadout is the 14 x 500 lb bombs, with this loadout you can destroy 1 base and damage a second one (on a 4-base map 10 x 500 lb bombs per base and on a 3-base map 6 x 500 lb bombs per base). However, if you have researched the AUBC No.1 Mark II mod the best loadout is the 14 x 1,000 lb bombs. With this loadout, you can destroy 2 bases (on a 4-base map 7 x 1,000 lb bombs per base and on a 3-base map 4 x 1,000 lb bombs per base).
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'''Mixed battles'''
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The best use of the Lancaster MR.7 is to carpet bomb with its massive 14 x 1,000 lb payload.
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# Spawn with the Lancaster MR.7 with the 14 x 1,000 lb payload
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# Maintain any altitude you want, it just needs to be higher than 140 m from the ground (shrapnel radius of your bomb), it is recommended to fly  high because of machine gun fire and SPAAs
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# Drop your bombs on the enemy
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# Get back to the airfield to reload
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# Rinse and repeat
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=== Manual Engine Control ===
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! rowspan="2" | Turbocharger
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=== Pros and cons ===
 
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* Very heavy bombloads
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* Powerful engines provides good acceleration and endurance
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* Overall very manoeuvrable, despite the size
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* Has an engine fire system to extinguish engine fires
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* Can be used as an ad-hoc fast bomber due to its high wing rip speed
  
 
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* Relatively slow for the engines that it has
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* Very weak and large airframe, its tail in particular can be easily destroyed by autocannons
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* No armour behind the gunners
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* No turret coverage below or above
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* 7.7 mm MGs deal very little damage
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* Lacks access to the more powerful bombs of the British counterpart
  
 
== History ==
 
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Latest revision as of 21:44, 15 June 2024

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This page is about the French bomber Lancaster MR.7. For other versions, see Lancaster (Family).
Lancaster MR.7
lancaster_mr7_france.png
GarageImage Lancaster MR.7.jpg
Lancaster MR.7
France flag.png France
IV Rank
Battle rating:
AB RB SB
5.0 5.3 6.0
Class:
Research:54 000 Specs-Card-Exp.png
Purchase:185 000 Specs-Card-Lion.png
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Description

After World War II, many Lancaster bombers were refitted into civilian roles, such as transport, mail delivery, and search and rescue. 59 Lancaster B.Is and B.VIIs were ordered by the French Aéronavale to be converted into a maritime patrol aircraft. The aircraft, later designated Lancaster MR.7, were delivered by Avro during 1952-53. These would be the last direct variant of the Lancaster ever built. The MR.7 flew until the mid-1960s by four squadrons stationed in France and New Caledonia in the maritime reconnaissance and search-and-rescue roles.

It was introduced in Update "La Royale". The Lancaster MR.7 in the French tech tree is not identical at all to the Lancaster in the British tech tree. While it still carries a very large payload, enough to deal with a base in air battles and carpet bomb a good chunk of the map, this one has a more limited defensive armament that covers only the back and front of the aircraft. It also has access to a radar. However, the main difference is its inability to carry the 12,000 lb bomb found on the British Lancasters, in fact, its largest bomb is a 1,000 lb bomb, paired with more smaller bombs in the bomb bay.

General info

Flight performance

Max speed
at 3 048 m462 km/h
Turn time48 s
Max altitude7 620 m
Engine4 х Rolls-Royce Merlin-28
Type
Cooling systemAir
Take-off weight31 t

The aircraft has a great flight performance, a high wing rip speed and is a friendly take-off and landing aircraft.

Characteristics Max speed
(km/h at 3,048 m) 		Max altitude
(metres) 		Turn time
(seconds) 		Rate of climb
(metres/second) 		Take-off run
(metres)
AB RB AB RB AB RB
Stock 447 434 7620 49.2 50.3 6.9 6.8 750
Upgraded 476 462 47.0 48.7 10.4 8.6

Details

Features
Combat flaps Take-off flaps Landing flaps Air brakes Arrestor gear
✓ ✓ ✓ X X
Limits
Wings (km/h) Gear (km/h) Flaps (km/h) Max Static G
Combat Take-off Landing + -
608 338 415 318 282 ~4 ~3
Optimal velocities (km/h)
Ailerons Rudder Elevators Radiator
< 400 < 350 < 350 > 350

Survivability and armour

Crew4 people
Speed of destruction
Structural0 km/h
Gear338 km/h
  • 8 mm Steel plates behind the pilot seat
  • 6.35 mm Steel plate behind the engines
  • No armour glazing
  • Critical components located at the front of aircraft (fuel, pilot, engine, controls)
  • More fuel tanks located in wings

Modifications and economy

Repair costBasic → Reference
AB2 440 → 3 264 Sl icon.png
RB6 673 → 8 928 Sl icon.png
SB13 499 → 18 061 Sl icon.png
Total cost of modifications47 100 Rp icon.png
86 200 Sl icon.png
Talisman cost1 500 Ge icon.png
Crew training52 000 Sl icon.png
Experts185 000 Sl icon.png
Aces940 Ge icon.png
Research Aces480 000 Rp icon.png
Reward for battleAB / RB / SB
110 / 220 / 510 % Sl icon.png
166 / 166 / 166 % Rp icon.png
Modifications
Flight performance Survivability Weaponry
Mods aerodinamic fuse.png
Fuselage repair
Research:
2 400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
4 400 Sl icon.png
180 Ge icon.png
Mods radiator.png
Radiator
Research:
2 400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
4 400 Sl icon.png
180 Ge icon.png
Mods armor frame.png
Airframe
Research:
2 100 Rp icon.png
Cost:
3 800 Sl icon.png
160 Ge icon.png
Mods compressor.png
Compressor
Research:
2 100 Rp icon.png
Cost:
3 800 Sl icon.png
160 Ge icon.png
Mods aerodinamic wing.png
Wings repair
Research:
5 900 Rp icon.png
Cost:
11 000 Sl icon.png
440 Ge icon.png
Mods new engine.png
Engine
Research:
5 900 Rp icon.png
Cost:
11 000 Sl icon.png
440 Ge icon.png
Mods armor cover.png
Cover
Research:
3 800 Rp icon.png
Cost:
6 900 Sl icon.png
290 Ge icon.png
Mods metanol.png
Engine injection
Research:
3 800 Rp icon.png
Cost:
6 900 Sl icon.png
290 Ge icon.png
Mods bulletproof vest.png
Protective vest
Research:
2 400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
4 400 Sl icon.png
180 Ge icon.png
Mods engine extinguisher.png
EFS
Research:
3 800 Rp icon.png
Cost:
6 900 Sl icon.png
290 Ge icon.png
Mods ammo.png
bmg303_turret_belt_pack
Research:
2 400 Rp icon.png
Cost:
4 400 Sl icon.png
180 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 0.png
Mods turret gun.png
bmg303_turret_new_gun
Research:
2 100 Rp icon.png
Cost:
3 800 Sl icon.png
160 Ge icon.png
Mods ammo.png
bmg50_turret_belt_pack
Research:
2 100 Rp icon.png
Cost:
3 800 Sl icon.png
160 Ge icon.png
Mod arrow 1.png
Mods pilon bomb.png
AUBC No.1 Mark II
Research:
2 100 Rp icon.png
Cost:
3 800 Sl icon.png
160 Ge icon.png
Mods turret gun.png
bmg50_turret_new_gun
Research:
3 800 Rp icon.png
Cost:
6 900 Sl icon.png
290 Ge icon.png

Armaments

Suspended armament

List of setups (6)
Setup 114 x M.C. 250 lb Mk.I bomb
Setup 28 x M.C. 250 lb Mk.I bomb
6 x M.C. 500 lb Mk.I bomb
Setup 314 x M.C. 500 lb Mk.I bomb
Setup 42 x M.C. 250 lb Mk.I bomb
1 x M.C. 1000 lb Mk.I bomb
6 x M.C. 500 lb Mk.I bomb
Setup 53 x M.C. 250 lb Mk.I bomb
6 x M.C. 1000 lb Mk.I bomb
Setup 614 x M.C. 1000 lb Mk.I bomb
Main articles: M.C. Mk.I (250 lb), M.C. Mk.I (500 lb), M.C. Mk.I (1,000 lb)

The Lancaster MR.7 can be outfitted with the following ordnance:

  • 14 x 250 lb M.C. Mk.I bombs (3,500 lb total)
  • 6 x 500 lb M.C. Mk.I bombs + 8 x 250 lb M.C. Mk.I bombs (5,000 lb total)
  • 14 x 500 lb M.C. Mk.I bombs (7,000 lb total)
  • 6 x 500 lb M.C. Mk.I bombs + 1 x 1,000 lb M.C. Mk.I bomb + 2 x 250 lb M.C. Mk.I bombs (4,500 lb total)
  • 6 x 1,000 lb M.C. Mk.I bombs + 3 x 250 lb M.C. Mk.I bombs (6,750 lb total)
  • 14 x 1,000 lb M.C. Mk.I bombs (14,000 lb total)

Defensive armament

Turret2 x 12.7 mm M2 Browning machine gun
Ammunition5000 rounds
Fire rate750 shots/min
Turret2 x 7.7 mm Browning machine gun
Ammunition2000 rounds
Fire rate1000 shots/min
Main articles: M2 Browning (12.7 mm), Browning (7.7 mm)

The Lancaster MR.7 is defended by:

  • 2 x 7.7 mm Browning machine guns, nose turret (1,000 rpg = 2,000 total)
  • 2 x 12.7 mm M2 Browning machine guns, tail turret (2,500 rpg = 5,000 total)

Usage in battles

Air Battles

The best use of the Lancaster MR.7 is to fly at high altitudes, destroy the target bases with its massive payload.

It is recommended to spawn at the long-range bomber spawn (normally 4,510 m) and as soon as you spawn you can climb between 5-10 degrees at 220-280 km/h IAS, by climbing at the angle of 5° you can get to the drop point in 4 to 5 minutes at almost 5,800 m. After you drop the bombs on the targets you should return to your airfield on a gentle descent of 15°.

If an enemy airplane is approaching, you should turn your back toward it (where the 2 x 12.7 mm machine guns are located), wait for it to get within 1 km of you and then begin to shoot him. If the enemy is approaching you from below or from above, pitch up or pitch down to get the best angle for your gunner.

If you are stock, the best loadout is the 14 x 500 lb bombs, with this loadout you can destroy 1 base and damage a second one (on a 4-base map 10 x 500 lb bombs per base and on a 3-base map 6 x 500 lb bombs per base). However, if you have researched the AUBC No.1 Mark II mod the best loadout is the 14 x 1,000 lb bombs. With this loadout, you can destroy 2 bases (on a 4-base map 7 x 1,000 lb bombs per base and on a 3-base map 4 x 1,000 lb bombs per base).

Mixed battles

The best use of the Lancaster MR.7 is to carpet bomb with its massive 14 x 1,000 lb payload.

  1. Spawn with the Lancaster MR.7 with the 14 x 1,000 lb payload
  2. Maintain any altitude you want, it just needs to be higher than 140 m from the ground (shrapnel radius of your bomb), it is recommended to fly high because of machine gun fire and SPAAs
  3. Drop your bombs on the enemy
  4. Get back to the airfield to reload
  5. Rinse and repeat

Manual Engine Control

MEC elements
Mixer Pitch Radiator Supercharger Turbocharger
Oil Water Type
Not controllable Controllable
Not auto controlled 		Controllable
Auto control available 		Controllable
Auto control available 		Separate Controllable
2 gears 		Not controllable

Pros and cons

Pros:

  • Very heavy bombloads
  • Powerful engines provides good acceleration and endurance
  • Overall very manoeuvrable, despite the size
  • Has an engine fire system to extinguish engine fires
  • Can be used as an ad-hoc fast bomber due to its high wing rip speed

Cons:

  • Relatively slow for the engines that it has
  • Very weak and large airframe, its tail in particular can be easily destroyed by autocannons
  • No armour behind the gunners
  • No turret coverage below or above
  • 7.7 mm MGs deal very little damage
  • Lacks access to the more powerful bombs of the British counterpart

History

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Media

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See also

Links to the articles on the War Thunder Wiki that you think will be useful for the reader, for example:

  • reference to the series of the aircraft;
  • links to approximate analogues of other nations and research trees.

External links

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  • topic on the official game forum;
  • other literature.


Avro Aircraft
Bombers  Lancaster B Mk I · Lancaster B Mk III · Lincoln B Mk II · Shackleton MR.Mk.2
Export/Licensed  Lancaster MR.7

France bombers
Farman  F.222.2 · N.C.223.3
Latécoère  Late 298D
Potez  Potez 633
Liore et Olivier  LeO 451 early · LeO 451 late
Bloch  M.B.174A-3 · M.B.162 · M.B.175T
American  V-156-F · Martin 167-A3 · ▄A-35B · ▄SB2C-5 · B-26C · ▄PBY-5A Late · ▄PB4Y-2
British  Lancaster MR.7

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